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Cheap calibrated noise source, 35dB Bandwith 100kHz - 500Mhz.
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/N-gen...%20rev%20C.pdf Noise performance of Mar's MMIC's should be noted on datasheets. I have them "somewhere", with a little luck Google finds it too. You can measure and calibrate your own noise generator. Terminate receiver with 50 Ohm resistor, measure output and label it zero dB. Remove resistor, and switch ON the unknown ENR, Z = 50 Ohm. The only thing to do is, ATTenuate in steps until you are at first measured output labeled zero dB. Add simply the dB's of the ATT units, this should be the ENR dB's. Please correct me if I am wrong. Homebrew ATTenuator pads can be build low as 0.1dB accurate enough. Sources of how to measure NF are radio amateurs who do EME. Google should come up with data if you search at "low noise" "EME" etc. PS: Google for VE3DNL Using Noise Generators to measure Noise Figure. Greetings Bas. "Steve Kavanagh" schreef in bericht om... I've been playing with trying to make rough noise figure measurements on the cheap and have a couple of questions: (1) Are there any issues with the following setup and procedure for making relative noise figure measurements (e.g. comparing two receivers) ? ____________ __________ ________ | | | | | | |Uncalibrated| | Step | |Receiver| Audio Out | Noise |----|Attenuator|------| Under |-------*----o (0 dB) | Source | | | | Test | _|_ |____________| |__________| |________| | | | | 2.7k |_| | *----o (-3 dB) _|_ | | | | 6.65k |_| _|_ /// Procedu (a) For receiver 1 connect a high impedance AC voltmeter to the audio output marked "0 dB". Record voltage with noise source off. (b) Turn noise source on and measure AC voltage at "-3 dB" output. Adjust step attenuator to get same voltage as in step (a). Record step attenuator setting. (c) Repeat steps (a) and (b) for receiver 2. (d) The difference in noise figure between the two receivers is the same as the difference in attenuator settings recorded in (b) and (c). For example if the attenuation for receiver 1 is 10 dB and for receiver 2 is 12 dB, then receiver two has a noise figure which is 2 dB less than that of receiver 1. Assuming this is OK we move on to question 2: (2) To avoid the expense of a calibrated noise source, I wonder if the repeatability from unit to unit of simple low noise amplifier circuits (perhaps a MAR-6 ?) is good enough to allow one to be used as a noise figure standard, at least for fairly rough measurements at HF and VHF. I am hoping that accuracies of +/- 1 to 2 dB might be achievable. Has anyone measured the NF performance of simple MMIC amps at HF & VHF ? Or looked into noise figure repeatability ? 73, Steve VE3SMA |
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