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Nimrod January 5th 05 09:29 PM

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
As time passes, valves of the sort and size that we use in our TX's
are becoming increasingly rare and expensive.

There is nearly a century of folklore and industrial craft in producing
valves and overcoming problems thereto, and it seems to me that now is the
time to gather together this expertise before all the associated craftsmen
and industrialists go to the grave and their knowledge becomes lost
forever.

Armed with such a body of knowledge, could we Radio Hams, as a body of
technically-motivated and technically-inspired aficionados, then consider
manufacturing our own?

Don't you have the interlect to do anything original? All you seem to do is
follow or criticise better men, neither of which you do very well.

Or is this your latest money making scheme?

(After seeing the financial status of your company from HULLY's link I see
you need one.)

Tell us, did your foray into AI not make you heaps of money?

Quote made by you on 1998/11/19

"My main side-interest is to get an understanding of consciousness
(Iwant to make heaps of money in AI & robotics!) mainly through
introspection; it is with some shock that I realise for how long
this has been going on; my philosophy notebook dates back 12 years."

That study is now 18 years advanced! (Even longer than you've studied DSP!)

Any return yet? No?

Maybe this introspection is the problem. Had you thought of studying someone
with some real intelligence?




TW January 5th 05 11:33 PM

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:29:06 -0000, "Nimrod" wrote:

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
As time passes, valves of the sort and size that we use in our TX's
are becoming increasingly rare and expensive.

There is nearly a century of folklore and industrial craft in producing
valves and overcoming problems thereto, and it seems to me that now is the
time to gather together this expertise before all the associated craftsmen
and industrialists go to the grave and their knowledge becomes lost
forever.

Armed with such a body of knowledge, could we Radio Hams, as a body of
technically-motivated and technically-inspired aficionados, then consider
manufacturing our own?

Don't you have the interlect to do anything original? All you seem to do is
follow or criticise better men, neither of which you do very well.

Or is this your latest money making scheme?

(After seeing the financial status of your company from HULLY's link I see
you need one.)

Tell us, did your foray into AI not make you heaps of money?

Quote made by you on 1998/11/19

"My main side-interest is to get an understanding of consciousness
(Iwant to make heaps of money in AI & robotics!) mainly through
introspection; it is with some shock that I realise for how long
this has been going on; my philosophy notebook dates back 12 years."

That study is now 18 years advanced! (Even longer than you've studied DSP!)

Any return yet? No?

Maybe this introspection is the problem. Had you thought of studying someone
with some real intelligence?


I wonder if the AI products made by that company had any "interlect"?
:-)

Dave January 6th 05 12:34 AM


"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
...
it seems to me that now is the
time to gather together this expertise before all the associated

craftsmen
and industrialists go to the grave and their knowledge becomes lost
forever.

================================

A rather dramatic statement!

Google will be with us for ever.


Thanks for not passing on my message to Gary, Reg.

Dave



Airy R. Bean January 6th 05 12:02 PM

But have all the craftsmen posted their knowledge?

Perhaps some of them do not use the Internet?

"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
...
it seems to me that now is the
time to gather together this expertise before all the associated

craftsmen
and industrialists go to the grave and their knowledge becomes lost
forever.

================================

A rather dramatic statement!

Google will be with us for ever.





Spike January 6th 05 12:14 PM

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:02:01 -0000, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:

But have all the craftsmen posted their knowledge?

Perhaps some of them do not use the Internet?


Perhaps some, like you, won't follow urls.
--
from
Aero Spike

The Eternal Squire January 7th 05 05:26 AM



TW wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:29:06 -0000, "Nimrod" wrote:


"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...

As time passes, valves of the sort and size that we use in our TX's
are becoming increasingly rare and expensive.

There is nearly a century of folklore and industrial craft in producing
valves and overcoming problems thereto, and it seems to me that now is the
time to gather together this expertise before all the associated craftsmen
and industrialists go to the grave and their knowledge becomes lost
forever.

Armed with such a body of knowledge, could we Radio Hams, as a body of
technically-motivated and technically-inspired aficionados, then consider
manufacturing our own?


Don't you have the interlect to do anything original? All you seem to do is
follow or criticise better men, neither of which you do very well.

Or is this your latest money making scheme?

(After seeing the financial status of your company from HULLY's link I see
you need one.)

Tell us, did your foray into AI not make you heaps of money?

Quote made by you on 1998/11/19

"My main side-interest is to get an understanding of consciousness
(Iwant to make heaps of money in AI & robotics!) mainly through
introspection; it is with some shock that I realise for how long
this has been going on; my philosophy notebook dates back 12 years."

That study is now 18 years advanced! (Even longer than you've studied DSP!)

Any return yet? No?

Maybe this introspection is the problem. Had you thought of studying someone
with some real intelligence?



I wonder if the AI products made by that company had any "interlect"?
:-)


Good name for a website! www.interlect.com

:)

G1LVN January 11th 05 05:04 PM


Airy R. Bean wrote:
As time passes, valves of the sort and size that we use in our TX's
are becoming increasingly rare and expensive.

snipo
Armed with such a body of knowledge, could we Radio Hams, as a body

of
technically-motivated and technically-inspired aficionados, then

consider
manufacturing our own?


You really are a prize fool. The invention of the Thermionic Vacuum
Valve (tube) held up the development of transisters by around 20 years.
They were **** in the 30's and are still **** today. Just think what we
could be doing now, 20 years further down Moores Law curve.
You are living in the past Bean.
- a32ws


G1LVN January 11th 05 05:04 PM


Airy R. Bean wrote:
As time passes, valves of the sort and size that we use in our TX's
are becoming increasingly rare and expensive.

snipo
Armed with such a body of knowledge, could we Radio Hams, as a body

of
technically-motivated and technically-inspired aficionados, then

consider
manufacturing our own?


You really are a prize fool. The invention of the Thermionic Vacuum
Valve (tube) held up the development of transisters by around 20 years.
They were **** in the 30's and are still **** today. Just think what we
could be doing now, 20 years further down Moores Law curve.
You are living in the past Bean.
- a32ws


m005kennedy January 12th 05 12:04 AM

It was my understanding that some of the tubes from Russia were in fact
made by hand. I would like to know how you progress in this.
In regards to a previous negative comment, what compels someone to
write a derogatory comment about someone for their technical ideas? In
the Xtals crystals society there is a book on building a crystal set
from scratch, headphones and all without purchasing any built
electronic parts. More power to people who do it!!!

Airy R. Bean wrote:
As time passes, valves of the sort and size that we use in our TX's
are becoming increasingly rare and expensive.

There is nearly a century of folklore and industrial craft in

producing
valves and overcoming problems thereto, and it seems to me that now

is the
time to gather together this expertise before all the associated

craftsmen
and industrialists go to the grave and their knowledge becomes lost
forever.

Armed with such a body of knowledge, could we Radio Hams, as a body

of
technically-motivated and technically-inspired aficionados, then

consider
manufacturing our own?

Is it not, after all, our pride in such technical activity that sets

us
apart from
the CBer who buys all his gear from a shop (and even sends it back

their
if ever it needs repair)?



Ian White, G3SEK January 12th 05 07:29 AM

m005kennedy wrote:
It was my understanding that some of the tubes from Russia were in fact
made by hand.


You may have given too much credence to rumours about tubes like the
GS35 (photo on my website).

The anode cooler only *looks* like it was made by some be-whiskered
traditional Russian coppersmith, on a side bench in People's Samovar
Factory No 23. The grid only *looks* like it was hand-knitted by his
wife.

The latter is definitely not true. It's made from a tea strainer.


--
73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek


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