"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
...
it seems to me that now is the
time to gather together this expertise before all the associated
craftsmen
and industrialists go to the grave and their knowledge becomes lost
forever.

================================

A rather dramatic statement!

Google will be with us for ever.

Thanks for not passing on my message to Gary, Reg.

Dave

But have all the craftsmen posted their knowledge?

Perhaps some of them do not use the Internet?

"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
...
it seems to me that now is the
time to gather together this expertise before all the associated
craftsmen
and industrialists go to the grave and their knowledge becomes lost
forever.

================================

A rather dramatic statement!

Google will be with us for ever.

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:02:01 -0000, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:

But have all the craftsmen posted their knowledge?

Perhaps some of them do not use the Internet?

Perhaps some, like you, won't follow urls.
--
from
Aero Spike

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
As time passes, valves of the sort and size that we use in our TX's
are becoming increasingly rare and expensive.

There is nearly a century of folklore and industrial craft in producing
valves and overcoming problems thereto, and it seems to me that now is the
time to gather together this expertise before all the associated craftsmen
and industrialists go to the grave and their knowledge becomes lost
forever.

Armed with such a body of knowledge, could we Radio Hams, as a body of
technically-motivated and technically-inspired aficionados, then consider
manufacturing our own?

Don't you have the interlect to do anything original? All you seem to do is
follow or criticise better men, neither of which you do very well.

Or is this your latest money making scheme?

(After seeing the financial status of your company from HULLY's link I see
you need one.)

Tell us, did your foray into AI not make you heaps of money?

Quote made by you on 1998/11/19

"My main side-interest is to get an understanding of consciousness
(Iwant to make heaps of money in AI & robotics!) mainly through
introspection; it is with some shock that I realise for how long
this has been going on; my philosophy notebook dates back 12 years."

That study is now 18 years advanced! (Even longer than you've studied DSP!)

Any return yet? No?

Maybe this introspection is the problem. Had you thought of studying someone
with some real intelligence?

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:29:06 -0000, "Nimrod" wrote:

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
As time passes, valves of the sort and size that we use in our TX's
are becoming increasingly rare and expensive.

There is nearly a century of folklore and industrial craft in producing
valves and overcoming problems thereto, and it seems to me that now is the
time to gather together this expertise before all the associated craftsmen
and industrialists go to the grave and their knowledge becomes lost
forever.

Armed with such a body of knowledge, could we Radio Hams, as a body of
technically-motivated and technically-inspired aficionados, then consider
manufacturing our own?

Don't you have the interlect to do anything original? All you seem to do is
follow or criticise better men, neither of which you do very well.

Or is this your latest money making scheme?

(After seeing the financial status of your company from HULLY's link I see
you need one.)

Tell us, did your foray into AI not make you heaps of money?

Quote made by you on 1998/11/19

"My main side-interest is to get an understanding of consciousness
(Iwant to make heaps of money in AI & robotics!) mainly through
introspection; it is with some shock that I realise for how long
this has been going on; my philosophy notebook dates back 12 years."

That study is now 18 years advanced! (Even longer than you've studied DSP!)

Any return yet? No?

Maybe this introspection is the problem. Had you thought of studying someone
with some real intelligence?


I wonder if the AI products made by that company had any "interlect"?
:-)

TW wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:29:06 -0000, "Nimrod" wrote:


"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...

As time passes, valves of the sort and size that we use in our TX's
are becoming increasingly rare and expensive.

There is nearly a century of folklore and industrial craft in producing
valves and overcoming problems thereto, and it seems to me that now is the
time to gather together this expertise before all the associated craftsmen
and industrialists go to the grave and their knowledge becomes lost
forever.

Armed with such a body of knowledge, could we Radio Hams, as a body of
technically-motivated and technically-inspired aficionados, then consider
manufacturing our own?


Don't you have the interlect to do anything original? All you seem to do is
follow or criticise better men, neither of which you do very well.

Or is this your latest money making scheme?

(After seeing the financial status of your company from HULLY's link I see
you need one.)

Tell us, did your foray into AI not make you heaps of money?

Quote made by you on 1998/11/19

"My main side-interest is to get an understanding of consciousness
(Iwant to make heaps of money in AI & robotics!) mainly through
introspection; it is with some shock that I realise for how long
this has been going on; my philosophy notebook dates back 12 years."

That study is now 18 years advanced! (Even longer than you've studied DSP!)

Any return yet? No?

Maybe this introspection is the problem. Had you thought of studying someone
with some real intelligence?



I wonder if the AI products made by that company had any "interlect"?
:-)

Good name for a website! www.interlect.com

Airy R. Bean wrote:
As time passes, valves of the sort and size that we use in our TX's
are becoming increasingly rare and expensive.

snipo
Armed with such a body of knowledge, could we Radio Hams, as a body
of
technically-motivated and technically-inspired aficionados, then
consider
manufacturing our own?


You really are a prize fool. The invention of the Thermionic Vacuum
Valve (tube) held up the development of transisters by around 20 years.
They were **** in the 30's and are still **** today. Just think what we
could be doing now, 20 years further down Moores Law curve.
You are living in the past Bean.
- a32ws

G1LVN wrote:
The invention of the Thermionic Vacuum
Valve (tube) held up the development of transisters by around 20 years.

How exactly could transistors have been developed if tubes weren't
already around?

Manufacturing semiconductors involves induction heaters to melt the
silicon/germanium during the refining process. Large induction heaters
to this day still use big honking TUBES to generate RF power.

Not to mention all the tubes in the test equipment that was used to
develop transistors....

Bob Weiss N2IXK

Was it not the case that the principles of the FET were
established in the early 1900's?

As to test eqpt, surely a red herring, for where did the
valves (tubes to the non-English-speaking Yanks) come
from to make the test eqpt to test the first valves?

In any case, ISTR using transistor test rigs that consisted
of meters, resistors and batteries only. (In the days when
we got hold of manufacturer's rejects and had to sort out
the still-usable ones)

"Bob Weiss" wrote in message
newsniFd.12984$4b.8634@trndny09...
G1LVN wrote:
The invention of the Thermionic Vacuum
Valve (tube) held up the development of transisters by around 20 years.
How exactly could transistors have been developed if tubes weren't
already around?
Manufacturing semiconductors involves induction heaters to melt the
silicon/germanium during the refining process. Large induction heaters
to this day still use big honking TUBES to generate RF power.
Not to mention all the tubes in the test equipment that was used to
develop transistors....

Of course we all know the Truth is out there............

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/article...ndroswell.html
73s de G1LVN
www.g1lvn.org.uk