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Gareth's Downstairs Computer February 9th 18 12:38 PM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...EAAOSwDmtZlWH2

Ian Jackson[_4_] February 9th 18 09:53 PM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
In message , Gareth's Downstairs Computer
writes



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2


That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer to
isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC (extracting the
audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV and DRM pictures
using MMSTV and Easypal).
--
Ian

Brian Reay[_5_] February 9th 18 10:03 PM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
On 09/02/2018 21:53, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Gareth's Downstairs Computer
writes



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2


That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer to
isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC (extracting the
audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV and DRM pictures
using MMSTV and Easypal).


It is, I ordered a pack this morning. At that price cheap enough for stock.

I have some on surplus/scrap boards which came my way (I think part of
the odd digital PMR radio system 'National One' when the local unit was
scrapped) but, unsoldering them is a pain. At under £2.50 for 10, inc
postage, it isn't worth it.

--

Suspect someone is claiming a benefit under false pretences? Incapacity
Benefit or Personal Independence Payment when they don't need it? They
are depriving those in real need!

https://www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud

Brian Reay[_5_] February 9th 18 10:06 PM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
On 09/02/2018 21:53, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Gareth's Downstairs Computer
writes



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2


That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer to
isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC (extracting the
audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV and DRM pictures
using MMSTV and Easypal).


BTW, did you know you are also supposedly a moderator for ulm, sorry a
tame moderator for ulm?



--

Suspect someone is claiming a benefit under false pretences? Incapacity
Benefit or Personal Independence Payment when they don't need it? They
are depriving those in real need!

https://www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud

Ian Jackson[_4_] February 9th 18 10:15 PM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
In message , Brian Reay writes
On 09/02/2018 21:53, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Gareth's Downstairs Computer
writes



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2

That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer
to isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC
(extracting the audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV
and DRM pictures using MMSTV and Easypal).


BTW, did you know you are also supposedly a moderator for ulm, sorry a
tame moderator for ulm?


No!




--
Ian

Rambo February 9th 18 10:29 PM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 22:06:41 +0000, Brian Reay wrote:

On 09/02/2018 21:53, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Gareth's Downstairs Computer
writes



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2


That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer to
isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC (extracting the
audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV and DRM pictures
using MMSTV and Easypal).


BTW, did you know you are also supposedly a moderator for ulm, sorry a
tame moderator for ulm?


Oh dear, searching for support are we?

Lucifer Morningstar February 10th 18 09:08 AM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Gareth's Downstairs Computer
m writes



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2


That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer to
isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC (extracting the
audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV and DRM pictures
using MMSTV and Easypal).


I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.

Ian Jackson[_4_] February 10th 18 11:21 AM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
In message , Lucifer
Morningstar writes
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Gareth's Downstairs Computer
writes



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2


That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer to
isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC (extracting the
audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV and DRM pictures
using MMSTV and Easypal).


I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.


I'm not sure how wide a single 'programme' DVB-T MUX is - but I suspect
it should fit inside the top end of the band. However, be aware of the
presence of certain non-standard repeater shifts (some up to 7.6MHz, I
think). Aren't some people trying live digital in the 1MHz extension of
2m? You need to check with the BATC.
http://www.batc.org.uk
--
Ian

Lucifer Morningstar February 12th 18 05:15 AM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:21:17 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Lucifer
Morningstar writes
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Gareth's Downstairs Computer
m writes



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2

That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer to
isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC (extracting the
audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV and DRM pictures
using MMSTV and Easypal).


I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.


I'm not sure how wide a single 'programme' DVB-T MUX is - but I suspect
it should fit inside the top end of the band. However, be aware of the
presence of certain non-standard repeater shifts (some up to 7.6MHz, I
think). Aren't some people trying live digital in the 1MHz extension of
2m? You need to check with the BATC.
http://www.batc.org.uk


I have DVB-T encoder modulator that can do 4 programs anywhere
from 30 to 960 Mhz.

Ian Jackson[_4_] February 12th 18 08:01 AM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
In message , Lucifer
Morningstar writes
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:21:17 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Lucifer
Morningstar writes
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Gareth's Downstairs Computer
om writes



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2

That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer to
isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC (extracting the
audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV and DRM pictures
using MMSTV and Easypal).

I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.


I'm not sure how wide a single 'programme' DVB-T MUX is - but I suspect
it should fit inside the top end of the band. However, be aware of the
presence of certain non-standard repeater shifts (some up to 7.6MHz, I
think). Aren't some people trying live digital in the 1MHz extension of
2m? You need to check with the BATC.
http://www.batc.org.uk


I have DVB-T encoder modulator that can do 4 programs anywhere
from 30 to 960 Mhz.


But how wide is it when it carries only one 'programme'?
--
Ian

Rob[_8_] February 12th 18 09:13 AM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Lucifer
Morningstar writes
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:21:17 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Lucifer
Morningstar writes
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Gareth's Downstairs Computer
headstone255.but.not.these.five.words@yahoo. com writes



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2

That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer to
isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC (extracting the
audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV and DRM pictures
using MMSTV and Easypal).

I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.

I'm not sure how wide a single 'programme' DVB-T MUX is - but I suspect
it should fit inside the top end of the band. However, be aware of the
presence of certain non-standard repeater shifts (some up to 7.6MHz, I
think). Aren't some people trying live digital in the 1MHz extension of
2m? You need to check with the BATC.
http://www.batc.org.uk


I have DVB-T encoder modulator that can do 4 programs anywhere
from 30 to 960 Mhz.


But how wide is it when it carries only one 'programme'?


In theory it could omit carriers and transmit a narrower signal at
lower bitrate, but in practice "standard DVB-T transmitters" cannot
do this. I heard some amateurs produced modulators and alternative
firmware that can do e.g. a 2 MHz wide DVB-T signal.

FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI February 12th 18 09:57 AM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message , Lucifer
Morningstar writes
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:21:17 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Lucifer
Morningstar writes
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Gareth's Downstairs Computer
headstone255.but.not.these.five.words@yahoo. com writes

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio...Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2

That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer to
isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC (extracting
the
audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV and DRM pictures
using MMSTV and Easypal).

I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.

I'm not sure how wide a single 'programme' DVB-T MUX is - but I suspect
it should fit inside the top end of the band. However, be aware of the
presence of certain non-standard repeater shifts (some up to 7.6MHz, I
think). Aren't some people trying live digital in the 1MHz extension of
2m? You need to check with the BATC.
http://www.batc.org.uk


I have DVB-T encoder modulator that can do 4 programs anywhere
from 30 to 960 Mhz.


But how wide is it when it carries only one 'programme'?

Its width will always be the same, even when switched off.
--
;-)
..
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
..
http://turner-smith.uk


Ian Jackson[_4_] February 12th 18 10:35 AM

Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)
 
In message , FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
writes
"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message , Lucifer
Morningstar writes




I have DVB-T encoder modulator that can do 4 programs anywhere
from 30 to 960 Mhz.


But how wide is it when it carries only one 'programme'?

Its width will always be the same, even when switched off.


You mean..... like....... 19.5"? That'll fit in the 70cm with room to
spare.
--
Ian


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