Build your own intelligent amateur radeo
 

Hello everyone. I recently purchased the book "Build Your Own Intelligent
Amateur Radio Transceiver" and was wondering if anyone knows of a site
that has an errata. I've done some looking on google groups but all the
sites are no longer around.

I don't want to start any flame wars but I just have to ask if any one has
any suggestions on building this rig. I don't have a ham license yet but
thats not the point of building this thing. I just want to jump into the
deep end a bit. I've done all kinds of kits both big and small and just
want to do everything from scratch and learn something in the process.

Thanks

Stephen

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:35:10 +0000, Stephen wrote:

Hello everyone. I recently purchased the book "Build Your Own Intelligent
Amateur Radio Transceiver" and was wondering if anyone knows of a site
that has an errata.

Have you checked the publisher's website? They often have errata or they
will send it to you if you request it.

I don't want to start any flame wars but I just have to ask if any one has
any suggestions on building this rig. I don't have a ham license yet but
thats not the point of building this thing. I just want to jump into the
deep end a bit. I've done all kinds of kits both big and small and just
want to do everything from scratch and learn something in the process.

The only problem I would have with doing it is what you have hinted at:
you do not have any evidence that the thing works! So definetely I would
find out first as you are attempting to, if the thing has ever been
constructed and does it work properly. Secondly, unless you have a very
good box of parts getting all the bits and pieces could nickle and dime
you to death. That is one advantage of going out and buying a Elecraft K2
kit instead!

Larry VE7EA

Presumably if the transceiver is considered to be intelligent then
the intended owner must be an M3/CB Fools' Licensee?

"Stephen" wrote in message
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Hello everyone. I recently purchased the book "Build Your Own Intelligent
Amateur Radio Transceiver"

intelligent amateur radeo? Is that like a rodeo?

"G1LVN" wrote in message
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intelligent amateur radeo? Is that like a rodeo?


You could get horse with talking too much!

KW

I don't want to start any flame wars but I just have to ask if any one has
any suggestions on building this rig. I don't have a ham license yet but
thats not the point of building this thing. I just want to jump into the
deep end a bit. I've done all kinds of kits both big and small and just
want to do everything from scratch and learn something in the process.


Stephen

I have that book too. Great read, very inspiring! I'd love to build it, or
something similar - but have insufficient time right now and too many other
projects lined up. I can't offer any specific advice but I would say this
would be quite an ambitious project and you'd need to be quite committed in
order to complete it successfully.

Another great book is "Crystal Sets to Sideband - a Guide to Building an
Amateur Radio Station" by Frank Harris K0IYE. This free eBook is available
for download on my website at
http://www.hanssummers.com/radio/k0iye/index.htm . Frank covers all the
theory and simple circuits, building up to more complex rigs. A great
resource for the homebrewer.

73 Hans G0UPL
http://www.HansSummers.com

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:44:44 +0000, Hans Summers wrote:


I don't want to start any flame wars but I just have to ask if any one has
any suggestions on building this rig. I don't have a ham license yet but
thats not the point of building this thing. I just want to jump into the
deep end a bit. I've done all kinds of kits both big and small and just
want to do everything from scratch and learn something in the process.


Stephen

I have that book too. Great read, very inspiring! I'd love to build it, or
something similar - but have insufficient time right now and too many other
projects lined up. I can't offer any specific advice but I would say this
would be quite an ambitious project and you'd need to be quite committed in
order to complete it successfully.

Another great book is "Crystal Sets to Sideband - a Guide to Building an
Amateur Radio Station" by Frank Harris K0IYE. This free eBook is available
for download on my website at
http://www.hanssummers.com/radio/k0iye/index.htm . Frank covers all the
theory and simple circuits, building up to more complex rigs. A great
resource for the homebrewer.

73 Hans G0UPL
http://www.HansSummers.com


Thanks for the info. I expecting the project will take me a year to
build. But thats okay. I still need to get my license.

Stephen

Stephen wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:52:03 +0000, KW wrote:


"G1LVN" wrote in message
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intelligent amateur radeo? Is that like a rodeo?


You could get horse with talking too much!

KW


Okay enough on my ability to type and spell. I'm only a programmer not an
English major.

Stephen

That must make for some interesting debugging exercises?

Dave

Stephen wrote:

: Okay enough on my ability to type and spell. I'm only a programmer not an
: English major.
:
: Stephen


in Brians eyes .. a "LOWLY" programmer.

ZZZPK wrote:
Stephen wrote:

Okay enough on my ability to type and spell. I'm only a programmer
not an English major.

Stephen


in Brians eyes .. a "LOWLY" programmer.

Even an English squaddie could spell 'radio' for goodness sake..

Yes, before anyone points out the obvious... I know!

--
huLLy
VOIP SIP Phone Number 4823176 on Global Village
Or +44 8703 408916 to my VOIP line
email (Loon reports welcome)
http://www.giganews.com/customer/gn119503

"huLLy" wrote:

: ZZZPK wrote:
: Stephen wrote:
:
: Okay enough on my ability to type and spell. I'm only a programmer
: not an English major.
:
: Stephen
:
:
: in Brians eyes .. a "LOWLY" programmer.
:
: Even an English squaddie could spell 'radio' for goodness sake..
:
: Yes, before anyone points out the obvious... I know!

yes..the hook was the size of LVN's sigma4 aerial.

ZZZPK wrote:

yes..the hook was the size of LVN's sigma4 aerial.

If they didn't bend in half with a whisp of wind, I would have put one up
here...
--
huLLy
VOIP SIP Phone Number 4823176 on Global Village
Or +44 8703 408916 to my VOIP line
email (Loon reports welcome)
http://www.giganews.com/customer/gn119503

Thanks for the info. I expecting the project will take me a year to
build. But thats okay. I still need to get my license.
Stephen
=================================
Getting a licence might take you just a weekend or 2 ;)

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 14:49:02 GMT, Stephen wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:52:03 +0000, KW wrote:


"G1LVN" wrote in message
oups.com...
intelligent amateur radeo? Is that like a rodeo?


You could get horse with talking too much!

KW

Okay enough on my ability to type and spell. I'm only a programmer not an
English major.


About the use of language: it is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a
blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes
instead.

Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

Edsger W. Dijkstra, "How do we tell truths that might hurt?"
from: Selected Writings on Computing: A Personal Perspective
Springer-Verlag, 1982. ISBN 0–387–90652–5.

"Matthew Haigh" wrote in message
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In article , Custos Custodum
writes
Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

I'd disagree. I know many very good commercial programmers who can't
spell to save their lives. But what really matters is that they can't
spell _consistently_, so mis-spelled variables and function names are
mis-spelled the same way every time (or the compiler catches the error
and they correct it to be consistent with their other mis-spellings).

Plus, of course, programming is not the hard bit- hasn't been for some time.
The skill lies in the system and software design. These days many packages
can autogenerate code and, with the high uP speeds and low memory costs,
that code is efficient enough to do the job- hand crafting to improve speed
etc often isn't required, even in real time apps. The move to the use of
real time operating systems has also reduced the demand for much of the core
software- one company can turn out versions (for example VxWorks, LynxOS)
that can serve many applications. The OEM manufacturer can focus just in his
particular needs, and pay a pitance of a fee to the RTOS supplier (sometimes
s few £)

Tends to leave a lot of the old hacker types on the scrap heap- often as not
claiming everyone else is the hacker.

It can be interesting reading some of the comments in their code!

True.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898

In message , Custos Custodum
writes
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 14:49:02 GMT, Stephen wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:52:03 +0000, KW wrote:


Okay enough on my ability to type and spell. I'm only a programmer not an
English major.


About the use of language: it is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a
blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes
instead.

Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

This probably explains why instructions for installing and running
software are frequently inaccurate, misleading and leave out certain
vital steps. The criterion seems to be 'if it's close enough. it's good
enough'.
Ian.
--

Shortcomings of computer programmers -

Lazy layabouts.

Lacking in logical thought.

A distinct weakness in use of the English language.

However, they are very good at outwitting their employers, who are even
worse, and obtaining money (wages, salaries, fees) under false pretences.

Custos Custodum wrote:

: Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
: one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

nonsense.

i know of a number of people who have programming "degrees" who couldnt do
either.

"Brian Reay" wrote:

: "Matthew Haigh" wrote in message
: ...
: In article , Custos Custodum
: writes
: Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
: one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
:
: I'd disagree. I know many very good commercial programmers who can't
: spell to save their lives. But what really matters is that they can't
: spell _consistently_, so mis-spelled variables and function names are
: mis-spelled the same way every time (or the compiler catches the error
: and they correct it to be consistent with their other mis-spellings).
:
: Plus, of course, programming is not the hard bit- hasn't been for some time.
: The skill lies in the system and software design. These days many packages
: can autogenerate code and, with the high uP speeds and low memory costs,
: that code is efficient enough to do the job- hand crafting to improve speed
: etc often isn't required, even in real time apps. The move to the use of
: real time operating systems has also reduced the demand for much of the core
: software- one company can turn out versions (for example VxWorks, LynxOS)
: that can serve many applications. The OEM manufacturer can focus just in his
: particular needs, and pay a pitance of a fee to the RTOS supplier (sometimes
: s few £)

said m3osn who never was a "lowly programmer"

:
: Tends to leave a lot of the old hacker types on the scrap heap- often as not
: claiming everyone else is the hacker.
u mean the ones who actually know how to program properly ?

"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
...
Shortcomings of computer programmers -

Lazy layabouts.

Lacking in logical thought.

A distinct weakness in use of the English language.

However, they are very good at outwitting their employers, who are even
worse, and obtaining money (wages, salaries, fees) under false pretences.


A taste for red wine?

Steve H

"Steve H" wrote -
Shortcomings of computer programmers -

Lazy layabouts.

Lacking in logical thought.

A distinct weakness in use of the English language.

However, they are very good at outwitting their employers, who are even
worse, and obtaining money (wages, salaries, fees) under false
pretences.


A taste for red wine?
============================

Steve, just a minor correction. I have a taste for the white stuff too.
But I'm not a computer programmer. Never been one. Just a recent hobby.
It seems I'm a retired engineer. But I didn't fully realise what sort of
animal, what classification I might fall into, until after I volunteered to
be put on the shelf.

I couldn't stand Maggie wasting my time and interfering with my everyday
work.

Hic!
----
Radio Amateur Reg, G4FGQ

I know someone with a maths degree who claimed that
e^(-jwt) was a function that decreased with increasing t,
and cited the maths being taught to 13-year-olds as being
evidence!

(That he also has an electronics degree and failed to recognise
the significance of "j" in a discussion about complex cisoids is
priceless!

Cue....squirming, spin-doctoring, side-stepping, bull****ting
and downright lying.....)

"ZZZPK" .es.it.net wrote
in message ...
Custos Custodum wrote:
: Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
: one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
nonsense.
i know of a number of people who have programming "degrees" who couldnt do
either.

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:26:35 -0000, Airy R.Bean wrote:

I know someone with a maths degree who claimed that
e^(-jwt) was a function that decreased with increasing t,
and cited the maths being taught to 13-year-olds as being
evidence!

I know someone with a degree from an 'avant-garde' university that
said 'heat' is radiated in 'heat bands', and claimed as evidence that
this was cited in schoolbooks!

Don't I, Bean?
--
from
Aero Spike

No wonder that you reported difficulties in managing the
software engineers that worked for you, and that you subsequently
left (HAD to leave? The BRATS all over again?) private industry
to parasitise from the public purse as a teacher.

"Those that can, do.
Those that can't, teach.
Those that can't teach, teach PE.
Those that can't teach PE, join the plods.
Those that can't plod, join the traffic plods.
Those that can't traffic plod, are on sale on the vegetable
rack in Tesco's.".


"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Plus, of course, programming is not the hard bit- hasn't been for some
time.
The skill lies in the system and software design. These days many packages
can autogenerate code and, with the high uP speeds and low memory costs,
that code is efficient enough to do the job- hand crafting to improve
speed
etc often isn't required, even in real time apps.

You seem to be as ignorant about the practices of
software as you are about the practise of Morse Code
at 12WPM.

RTOS's have been in regular use in Britland industry
for well over 35 years.

If the "demand for much of the core software" was reduced in the
systems for which you were responsible, why did they go on for
so long, and why did you ultimately have to leave and get a job
as a teacher?

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
The move to the use of
real time operating systems has also reduced the demand for much of the
core
software.

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:48:39 -0000, Airy R.Bean wrote:

No wonder that you reported difficulties in managing the
software engineers that worked for you..

Your 'Be Nice to Brian Week' lasted just 42 minutes.....
--
from
Aero Spike

"Airy R.Bean, village idiot" wrote in message
...
You seem to be as ignorant about the practices of
software as you are about the practise of Morse Code
at 12WPM.

RTOS's have been in regular use in Britland industry
for well over 35 years.

If the "demand for much of the core software" was reduced in the
systems for which you were responsible, why did they go on for
so long, and why did you ultimately have to leave and get a job
as a teacher?

Refresh my memory please, why did you 'leave' Westinghouse?
....(_!_)...