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Postage-stamp sized radio?

Having currently employment within a Japanese manufacturer of
WCDMA mobile phones and thus being exposed to the "Innards" of
such phones; following the historical challenges of making a transceiver
that would fit into a tobacco tin, is it perhaps now the time to
issue a challenge to come up with a complete transceiver design
fabricated to the size of a postage stamp?

Some of the circuits that I am engaged in testing have components
that are smaller than the smallest blob of solder I can melt!

Perhaps it is time to extend my soldering iron with a tip fashioned
from a dressmaker's pin?

"Polymath" wrote in message
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Having currently employment

Ahh a rehab course

http://www.amqrp.org/kits/smk1/ latest sm components are smaller so I can't
see why not, but what's the point?

Steve H
Real radios glow in the dark....
"Polymath" wrote in message
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Having currently employment within a Japanese manufacturer of
WCDMA mobile phones and thus being exposed to the "Innards" of
such phones; following the historical challenges of making a transceiver
that would fit into a tobacco tin, is it perhaps now the time to
issue a challenge to come up with a complete transceiver design
fabricated to the size of a postage stamp?

Some of the circuits that I am engaged in testing have components
that are smaller than the smallest blob of solder I can melt!

Perhaps it is time to extend my soldering iron with a tip fashioned
from a dressmaker's pin?

Steve H wrote:
http://www.amqrp.org/kits/smk1/ latest sm components are smaller so I can't
see why not, but what's the point?

For mailing a radiogram, perhaps? Package tracking, though RFID seems
to the modus praesto.

Certainly many sinister reasons exist as well for such a small device.

Larry wrote:
Steve H wrote:

http://www.amqrp.org/kits/smk1/ latest sm components are smaller so I
can't
see why not, but what's the point?

For mailing a radiogram, perhaps? Package tracking, though RFID seems
to the modus praesto.

Certainly many sinister reasons exist as well for such a small device.
It can't be smaller than Beanie's brain.
--
;-)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
http://turner-smith.co.uk

"Polymath" wrote in message
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Having currently employment within a Japanese manufacturer of
WCDMA mobile phones and thus being exposed to the "Innards" of
such phones; following the historical challenges of making a transceiver
that would fit into a tobacco tin, is it perhaps now the time to
issue a challenge to come up with a complete transceiver design
fabricated to the size of a postage stamp?

Idiot.

Why the attack? A postage stamp sized transceiver is certainly quite
feasible with today's technology. It won't be QRO, but an entire transceiver
can be implemented in that size ... do a web search on "Zigbee" and I'm sure
you'll find many examples

Carl - wk3c

"brot" wrote in message
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"Polymath" wrote in message
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Having currently employment within a Japanese manufacturer of
WCDMA mobile phones and thus being exposed to the "Innards" of
such phones; following the historical challenges of making a transceiver
that would fit into a tobacco tin, is it perhaps now the time to
issue a challenge to come up with a complete transceiver design
fabricated to the size of a postage stamp?

Idiot.

Why the attack? Why the _INFANTILE_ attack? It is
an unfortunate indication of the extent to which incurable
CBers, all those who buy their rigs off-the-shelf and
send them back to be repaired, are infesting Ham Radio.

I append a short article to assist.

"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message
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Why the attack? A postage stamp sized transceiver is certainly quite
feasible with today's technology. It won't be QRO, but an entire
transceiver can be implemented in that size ... do a web search on
"Zigbee" and I'm sure you'll find many examples

Carl - wk3c

"brot" wrote in message
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"Polymath" wrote in message
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Having currently employment within a Japanese manufacturer of
WCDMA mobile phones and thus being exposed to the "Innards" of
such phones; following the historical challenges of making a transceiver
that would fit into a tobacco tin, is it perhaps now the time to
issue a challenge to come up with a complete transceiver design
fabricated to the size of a postage stamp?

Idiot.

What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

"Polymath" wrote in message
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(snip)
Perhaps it is time to extend my soldering iron with a tip fashioned
from a dressmaker's pin?

Well do so - then do us all a favour and stick it up your arse!

Theo wrote:
"Polymath" wrote in message
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(snip)
Perhaps it is time to extend my soldering iron with a tip fashioned
from a dressmaker's pin?

Well do so - then do us all a favour and stick it up your arse!

Then, and only then, switch it on.
--
;-)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
http://turner-smith.co.uk

Polymath wrote:
Why the attack?

Does it matter? Killfile them and move on; they are worth no more
effort or attention and are never deserved of any response.

73
N1POP

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:34:23 -0700, Larry wrote:
Polymath wrote:
Why the attack?

Does it matter? Killfile them and move on; they are worth no more
effort or attention and are never deserved of any response.

Well, certsinly killfile any crosspostings that include uk.radio.amateur.
That seems to be where the major sewage leaks are coming from.

Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
38.24N 104.55W | config.com | DM78rf | SK

The remark from a Yank indicates the state of play in Britland....

"Allodoxaphobia" wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:34:23 -0700, Larry wrote:
Polymath wrote:
Why the attack?

Does it matter? Killfile them and move on; they are worth no more
effort or attention and are never deserved of any response.

Well, certsinly killfile any crosspostings that include uk.radio.amateur.
That seems to be where the major sewage leaks are coming from.

Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
38.24N 104.55W | config.com | DM78rf | SK

"Polymath" wrote in message
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I append a short article to assist.

What is Ham Radio?
(needle stuck again, repetition removed)

did you not pick up any new material from your cell wall, or were you too
busy biting your pillow?

... is it perhaps now the time to
issue a challenge to come up with a complete
transceiver design
fabricated to the size of a postage stamp?

If car manufacturers had miniaturized their products in the same eay
electronics has shrunk, then the modern motor car would fit ont he head of a
pin. The only problem is who would drive it? The knobs and pushy-things
would be too small to get hold of, or have you a solution for that, such as
a big remote control?

"EL84" wrote in message
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"Polymath" wrote in message
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I append a short article to assist.

What is Ham Radio?
(needle stuck again, repetition removed)

did you not pick up any new material from your cell wall, or were you too
busy biting your pillow?

Probably busy trying to squeeze out of his straitjacket
so he can chomp at the rubber padding of his cell!

ManyMath:

There are idiots, then again there are truly amazing idiots. You are
amazing!

John

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:50:12 +0100, Polymath wrote:

The remark from a Yank indicates the state of play in Britland....

"Allodoxaphobia" wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:34:23 -0700, Larry wrote:
Polymath wrote:
Why the attack?

Does it matter? Killfile them and move on; they are worth no more
effort or attention and are never deserved of any response.

Well, certsinly killfile any crosspostings that include uk.radio.amateur.
That seems to be where the major sewage leaks are coming from.

Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
38.24N 104.55W | config.com | DM78rf | SK