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Jeff September 21st 05 10:14 PM

Buffer Amp IC suggestions plse
 
Hi,
Ive been trying to locate a suitable unity gain buffer amplifier IC that can
drive a 50 load.
Application is to buffer a VCO output at 5Mhz.
Needs to be 8pin DIP and operate on a single-ended supply.
I had found what I wanted in the CLC109, but cant seem to find a supplier.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated regarding type and supplier that is user
friendly to international countries.
JEFF
ZL3JK
New Zealand



Winfield Hill September 21st 05 11:25 PM

Jeff wrote...

Ive been trying to locate a suitable unity gain buffer amplifier
IC that can drive a 50 load.
Application is to buffer a VCO output at 5Mhz.
Needs to be 8pin DIP


LTC's LT1206 comes in TO220, miniDIP and soic packages,
and Digi-Key has them in stock for $6.25 each...
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Line...ata/LT1206.pdf
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea...ail?Ref=329191

and operate on a single-ended supply.


Oops, +/-5V supply. What's your signal voltage? And did
you want your output to have a 50-ohm source impedance?




--
Thanks,
- Win

Jeff September 21st 05 11:56 PM

Needs to drive into 50 ohms. input level approx 150mV at 5Mhz


"Winfield Hill" wrote in message
...
Jeff wrote...

Ive been trying to locate a suitable unity gain buffer amplifier
IC that can drive a 50 load.
Application is to buffer a VCO output at 5Mhz.
Needs to be 8pin DIP


LTC's LT1206 comes in TO220, miniDIP and soic packages,
and Digi-Key has them in stock for $6.25 each...
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Line...ata/LT1206.pdf
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea...ail?Ref=329191

and operate on a single-ended supply.


Oops, +/-5V supply. What's your signal voltage? And did
you want your output to have a 50-ohm source impedance?




--
Thanks,
- Win




John Popelish September 22nd 05 12:14 AM

Jeff wrote:
Hi,
Ive been trying to locate a suitable unity gain buffer amplifier IC that can
drive a 50 load.
Application is to buffer a VCO output at 5Mhz.
Needs to be 8pin DIP and operate on a single-ended supply.
I had found what I wanted in the CLC109, but cant seem to find a supplier.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated regarding type and supplier that is user
friendly to international countries.
JEFF
ZL3JK
New Zealand


An AD817 can deliver +-50 mA and has a gain bandwidth product of 50 MHz.
http://www.analog.com/UploadedFiles/...66266ad817.pdf
4$ from Digikey.
Good for either a gain 1 buffer or a gain 2 with series 50 ohm
resistor, 50 ohm source.

Winfield Hill September 22nd 05 01:37 AM

Jeff wrote...

Needs to drive into 50 ohms. input level approx 150mV at 5Mhz

Winfield Hill wrote ...
Jeff wrote...

Ive been trying to locate a suitable unity gain buffer amplifier
IC that can drive a 50 load.
Application is to buffer a VCO output at 5Mhz.
Needs to be 8pin DIP


LTC's LT1206 comes in TO220, miniDIP and soic packages,
and Digi-Key has them in stock for $6.25 each...
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Line...ata/LT1206.pdf
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea...ail?Ref=329191

and operate on a single-ended supply.


Oops, +/-5V supply. What's your signal voltage? And did
you want your output to have a 50-ohm source impedance?


Unless you source with 50 ohms (2x signal plus 50-ohm resistor),
and terminate with 50-ohms, the issue becomes how much cable
capacitance? Either the load looks resistive (100 ohms in the
former case) or capacitive.


--
Thanks,
- Win

Jeff September 22nd 05 03:03 AM

Thanks. The AD817 looks good, and I can source it locally from Australia.
Thanks all for your help.
JEFF

"John Popelish" wrote in message
...
Jeff wrote:
Hi,
Ive been trying to locate a suitable unity gain buffer amplifier IC that

can
drive a 50 load.
Application is to buffer a VCO output at 5Mhz.
Needs to be 8pin DIP and operate on a single-ended supply.
I had found what I wanted in the CLC109, but cant seem to find a

supplier.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated regarding type and supplier that is

user
friendly to international countries.
JEFF
ZL3JK
New Zealand


An AD817 can deliver +-50 mA and has a gain bandwidth product of 50 MHz.
http://www.analog.com/UploadedFiles/...66266ad817.pdf
4$ from Digikey.
Good for either a gain 1 buffer or a gain 2 with series 50 ohm
resistor, 50 ohm source.




Mac September 22nd 05 06:00 AM

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:14:55 +1200, Jeff wrote:

Hi,
Ive been trying to locate a suitable unity gain buffer amplifier IC that can
drive a 50 load.
Application is to buffer a VCO output at 5Mhz.
Needs to be 8pin DIP and operate on a single-ended supply.
I had found what I wanted in the CLC109, but cant seem to find a supplier.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated regarding type and supplier that is user
friendly to international countries.
JEFF
ZL3JK
New Zealand


What you want is a video buffer or video op-amp. Linear Technologies,
National Semiconductor, and Analog Devices are among the many companies
that make such things.

Note that some of these devices get a bit squirrelly if they see a
capacitive load. So I recommend that you do something like this: (use
courier or other constant-width font for ASCII art schematic)



|\ 50
in--|+\__+____/\/\____/ to 50 Ohm load
+--|-/ |
| |/ |
| |
+--/\/\-+
| Rf
\
/Ra
\
/
|
-----
GND

Rf and Ra would be the same value. Use a value recommended by the
datasheet, or 1k if the datasheet doesn't recommend a specific value.
Follow any other suggestions in the datasheet as well. For example, they
may suggest a small capacitor directly from the op-amp output to inverting
input.

You probably want to terminate the input with a 50 Ohm resistor, too, but
I don't know, so I'll leave it out.

It sounds like you may need AC-coupling, so you can put blocking
capacitors on the input and/or output. Oh, if you put a blocking cap on
the input, be sure to also provide a DC (resistive) path to GND or to the
mid-rail point if you are going single-supply.

Just chose a capacitor big enough so that 1/(2*pi*R*C) is much lower than
5 MHz, your signal of interest. (R in this case is 50 Ohms) There is no
problem putting a capacitor like this in the signal path: Since it looks
like a short circuit at higher frequencies, it does not capacitively load
the amp at frequencies where the amp might be unstable. Also, the series
50 Ohm resistor keeps the overall impedance resistive.

HTH

--Mac


Mac September 22nd 05 06:27 AM

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:25:09 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:

Jeff wrote...

Ive been trying to locate a suitable unity gain buffer amplifier
IC that can drive a 50 load.
Application is to buffer a VCO output at 5Mhz.
Needs to be 8pin DIP


LTC's LT1206 comes in TO220, miniDIP and soic packages,
and Digi-Key has them in stock for $6.25 each...
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Line...ata/LT1206.pdf
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea...ail?Ref=329191

and operate on a single-ended supply.


Oops, +/-5V supply. What's your signal voltage? And did
you want your output to have a 50-ohm source impedance?


Maybe an LT1191?

digikey #: LT1191CN8-ND (24 in stock at USD 3.25)
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Line...ata/LT1191.pdf

--Mac



Winfield Hill September 22nd 05 12:49 PM

Mac wrote...

Maybe an LT1191? digikey #: LT1191CN8-ND (24 in stock at USD 3.25)
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Line...ata/LT1191.pdf


Ouch, a 30mA supply current!


--
Thanks,
- Win

Fred Bloggs September 22nd 05 03:50 PM



Winfield Hill wrote:
Mac wrote...

Maybe an LT1191? digikey #: LT1191CN8-ND (24 in stock at USD 3.25)
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Line...ata/LT1191.pdf



Ouch, a 30mA supply current!



Well- why not your super-duper 74HCU04 linear amp or whatever it was?-
is that available in Tiny Logic?



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