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Orator For Decency February 4th 06 08:05 AM

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Sorry, omitted the international exhortations.....

Orator For Decency wrote:
What is Ham Radio?

(Preface)
It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for
decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery. Even
the Usenet newsgroups dedicated to the cause have degenerated
into a hotbed of abusive onslaughts by those who ought to know better.
However, there still exists the fundamental basis on which Ham
Radio is based, and that will never die. This FAQ ("What Is
Ham Radio?") will be regularly published and will not be
shouted or bullied down. It is important that those of a
technical bent, who are the natural seed-corn of Radio Hammery
and who gravitate towards us to be the real novitiate, can
still find us, (and know that we are still here), their fellows.

-----ooooo-----

Please remember that this FAQ is a _POSITIVE EXHORTATION_
to you to exert yourselves to join our fraternity! (If you find
otherwise, then perhaps you are already classing yourself in the
mediocre groups of those who are criticised in the FAQ and from
whom we _MUST_ dissociate? If so - it's never too late for
a re-taxonomisation on your part - there's nothing elitist about
us, and we welcome all those who are prepared to put themselves
out in order to join our ranks!)

-----ooooo-----
(Article)
So,.....What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

-----ooooo-----

One such CB type is the so-called "Not-Ham". Otherwise
known as the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham, this type
had their background in the hobby that is CB Radio and not
in the technical pursuits that lead up to a coveted Ham licence.
Easily recognised by their boasts of the criminal activity of
11 metre SSB operation, one wonders why they don't go back to
the CB Bands if such bands are dearer in their hearts than are the Ham
Bands? No _REAL Radio Hams associate with those who made an
illegal installation of transmitting equipment before being
in possession of an appropriate licence.

-----ooooo-----

One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.

A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. A sure sign of
a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, or has ever held, a licence
issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.

-----ooooo-----

One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds.

6 year-olds simply lack the mathematical tool kit to
enable them to handle even the simplest algebraic manipulation
for Ohm's Law and thus, the disgraceful Class Ber's in
the aforementioned category are not Radio Hams by any stretch
of the imagination!

Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds,
or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme!



G4KFK February 4th 06 08:19 AM

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Gareth Alun Evans (G4SDW) wrote:
Sorry, omitted the international exhortations.....


So did I.

You are the very model of a newsgroup personality.
You intersperse stupidity with tedious banality.
Psudonyms you've plenty of; both genuine and ghosted, too,
On all the countless newsgroups that your drivel is cross-posted to.
Our bandwidth you will fritter with your whining and your snivelling,
And we're the ones who pay the bills, downloading all your drivelling.
Your enemies are numerous, and no-one would be blaming us
For cracking your head open after you've been rudely flaming us.
You hate to lose an argument (by now you should be used to it).
You wouldn't know a valid point if you were introduced to it.
Your learning is extensive but consists of mindless trivia,
Designed to fan your ego, which is larger than Bolivia.
The comments that you vomit forth, disguised as jest and drollery,
Are really just an exercise in unremitting trollery.
You say you're frank and forthright, but that's merely lies and vanity,

The gibberings of a loonie on the limits of his sanity.


With apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan :-)


73
Mike G4KFK


Spike February 4th 06 05:11 PM

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G4KFK wrote:


Gareth Alun Evans (G4SDW) wrote:

Sorry, omitted the international exhortations.....


So did I.

You are the very model of a newsgroup personality.
You intersperse stupidity with tedious banality.
Psudonyms you've plenty of; both genuine and ghosted, too,
On all the countless newsgroups that your drivel is cross-posted to.

snip
With apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan :-)


Has this chappy got as far as upgrading the so-called 'faq' (which
might be frequent but has little else to recommend it) to include the
warning that 'repairing with gusto' only applies to transistorised PAs
with low power output and not compact valve PAs with 600V on the
anodes?

If not, why did he introduce that caveat elsewhere?

Still, let us not forget this was the same chappy who sold an FT-101
because the tune-up pages were missing from the manual.


from
Aero Spike

G4KFK February 4th 06 05:54 PM

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Spike wrote:
Has this chappy got as far as upgrading the so-called 'faq' (which
might be frequent but has little else to recommend it) to include the
warning that 'repairing with gusto' only applies to transistorised PAs
with low power output and not compact valve PAs with 600V on the
anodes?


No, it's the same old drivel.

If not, why did he introduce that caveat elsewhere?


His medication had worn off that day.

Still, let us not forget this was the same chappy who sold an FT-101
because the tune-up pages were missing from the manual.


We'll keep reminding him ... with gusto!

73
Mike G4KFK


Orator For Decency February 4th 06 08:07 PM

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If Mrs.Nugatory cannot deal with the simple electrical
and mechanical attributes of a tuning capacitor, it
really shows up her habituation for sneering for what it is -
the green eyes of jealousy!

Welcome back, Mr.Nedlar.

Nedlar wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:11:28 +0000, Spike
wrote:
e?
Still, let us not forget this was the same chappy who sold an FT-101
because the tune-up pages were missing from the manual.


Let us not forget that it was you that posted this gem while you tried
to repair something above your skill level........
spike spluttered
I've checked for tuning capacitor plates not rubbing each other, and
correct earthing for the tuning capacitor main shaft wipers. I can't
think of anything else.



Toxic Waste February 4th 06 08:36 PM

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"Nedlar" wrote in message
...

Let us not forget that it was you that posted this gem while you tried
to repair something above your skill level........


Try repairing M3SDW's brain, that's beyond anyone's skill level :-(

tox



Orator For Decency February 4th 06 09:51 PM

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Are there any other snippets about Mrs.Nugatory?

The only things I know about her is her habit of cowering
behind twitching curtains, her watching of the film, "The
Bitches of Toko-Roko", and being able to prove in
20-page obsessive (and irrelevant) dissertations that I
know nothing about certain topics based purely on my
use of a comma in place of a semi-colon.


Orator For Decency wrote:
If Mrs.Nugatory cannot deal with the simple electrical
and mechanical attributes of a tuning capacitor, it
really shows up her habituation for sneering for what it is -
the green eyes of jealousy!

Welcome back, Mr.Nedlar.

Nedlar wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:11:28 +0000, Spike
wrote:
e?
Still, let us not forget this was the same chappy who sold an FT-101
because the tune-up pages were missing from the manual.


Let us not forget that it was you that posted this gem while you tried
to repair something above your skill level........
spike spluttered
I've checked for tuning capacitor plates not rubbing each other, and
correct earthing for the tuning capacitor main shaft wipers. I can't
think of anything else.



an_old_friend February 4th 06 10:13 PM

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Orator For Decency wrote:
Are there any other snippets about Mrs.Nugatory?

when will the orator for deceny accualy find some .


Orator For Decency February 6th 06 06:26 PM

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Actually, right on cue, Mrs.Nugatory has continued with
her stalking of me, with another sock puppet that provides
a graphic illustration of the critique below!

Go to uk.rec.models.engineering, and google for
author, "Novae Artes"; the modus operandi is
unmistakeable!

She demonstrates so well her neurotic obsession coupled
with her desperate need to make insulting remarks in a
long and vitriolic diatribe that once again, seizes on some
trivial and irrelevant point. (The Yanks almost certainly will
not have heard of Araldite)

Not only that, but by having to go to the web to find some
material to quote from somebody else, she demonstrates so
well that not only does she know nothing about the simple
mechanical and electrical properties of tuning condensers,
she knows nothing about anything and is incapable of
enjoining discussion off the top of her head. It is no
wonder that in an interest that is calimed to have lasted
for 50 years, she has not achieved any licence, not even
an M3/CB Fools' Licence promoted by the gangrenous
degeneration that is the RSCB council and all its members.

What a silly, silly girl is she!

Orator For Decency wrote:
Are there any other snippets about Mrs.Nugatory?

The only things I know about her is her habit of cowering
behind twitching curtains, her watching of the film, "The
Bitches of Toko-Roko", and being able to prove in
20-page obsessive (and irrelevant) dissertations that I
know nothing about certain topics based purely on my
use of a comma in place of a semi-colon.

Orator For Decency wrote:
If Mrs.Nugatory cannot deal with the simple electrical
and mechanical attributes of a tuning capacitor, it
really shows up her habituation for sneering for what it is -
the green eyes of jealousy!



Beowolf February 6th 06 06:43 PM

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"Orator For Decency" wrote in message
oups.com...
Actually, right on cue, Mrs.Nugatory has continued with
her stalking of me, with another sock puppet that provides
a graphic illustration of the critique below!

Go to uk.rec.models.engineering, and google for
author, "Novae Artes"; the modus operandi is
unmistakeable!


You mean someone ELSE has proved you wrong. This is a common modus operandi

Beowulf




The Sweeny Psychiatrist February 6th 06 07:11 PM

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Orator For Decency wrote:
Actually, right on cue, Mrs.Nugatory has continued with
her stalking of me, with another sock puppet that provides
a graphic illustration of the critique below!

Go to uk.rec.models.engineering, and google for
author, "Novae Artes"; the modus operandi is
unmistakeable!

She demonstrates so well her neurotic obsession coupled
with her desperate need to make insulting remarks in a
long and vitriolic diatribe that once again, seizes on some
trivial and irrelevant point. (The Yanks almost certainly will
not have heard of Araldite)

Not only that, but by having to go to the web to find some
material to quote from somebody else, she demonstrates so
well that not only does she know nothing about the simple
mechanical and electrical properties of tuning condensers,
she knows nothing about anything and is incapable of
enjoining discussion off the top of her head. It is no
wonder that in an interest that is calimed to have lasted
for 50 years, she has not achieved any licence, not even
an M3/CB Fools' Licence promoted by the gangrenous
degeneration that is the RSCB council and all its members.

What a silly, silly girl is she!

Orator For Decency wrote:
Are there any other snippets about Mrs.Nugatory?

The only things I know about her is her habit of cowering
behind twitching curtains, her watching of the film, "The
Bitches of Toko-Roko", and being able to prove in
20-page obsessive (and irrelevant) dissertations that I
know nothing about certain topics based purely on my
use of a comma in place of a semi-colon.

Orator For Decency wrote:
If Mrs.Nugatory cannot deal with the simple electrical
and mechanical attributes of a tuning capacitor, it
really shows up her habituation for sneering for what it is -
the green eyes of jealousy!


The Psychiatrists report:

When the orator for decency aka Gareth Evans is challenged, criticised,
or just ridiculed,
He refers to the other person(s) as she.

So it seems in order to denigrate them he changes their gender to
female in his postings.

This is extremely interesting, and points to a hatred of females,
followed by their subjugation by him.
It could also be coupled to a deep loathing of his mother who possibly
failed him some way in his eyes.

Such problems are not uncommon in males who have a problem with normal
life.
Also it is quite common in sexually dysfunctional subjects.

I would warn females not to approach an individual with such a profile

His wife has a lot to endure with the obsessive nature of her husband,
and we should feel sorry for her.

This is a case that we will have to study more closely.


Wiggy February 6th 06 07:26 PM

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Orator For Decency wrote:
Actually, right on cue, Mrs.Nugatory has continued with
her stalking of me, with another sock puppet that provides
a graphic illustration of the critique below!

Go to uk.rec.models.engineering, and google for
author, "Novae Artes"; the modus operandi is
unmistakeable!

She demonstrates so well her neurotic obsession coupled
with her desperate need to make insulting remarks in a
long and vitriolic diatribe that once again, seizes on some
trivial and irrelevant point. (The Yanks almost certainly will
not have heard of Araldite)

Not only that, but by having to go to the web to find some
material to quote from somebody else, she demonstrates so
well that not only does she know nothing about the simple
mechanical and electrical properties of tuning condensers,
she knows nothing about anything and is incapable of
enjoining discussion off the top of her head. It is no
wonder that in an interest that is calimed to have lasted
for 50 years, she has not achieved any licence, not even
an M3/CB Fools' Licence promoted by the gangrenous
degeneration that is the RSCB council and all its members.

What a silly, silly girl is she!


Hello Gazza, would you like me to drag up some more dirt from your past?
You know you wanna. Gowan, gowan, gowan.

1000 sov's to keep quite, OK?

Wiggy

Wiggy February 6th 06 07:36 PM

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Wiggy wrote:
Orator For Decency wrote:

Actually, right on cue, Mrs.Nugatory has continued with
her stalking of me, with another sock puppet that provides
a graphic illustration of the critique below!

Go to uk.rec.models.engineering, and google for
author, "Novae Artes"; the modus operandi is
unmistakeable!

She demonstrates so well her neurotic obsession coupled
with her desperate need to make insulting remarks in a
long and vitriolic diatribe that once again, seizes on some
trivial and irrelevant point. (The Yanks almost certainly will
not have heard of Araldite)

Not only that, but by having to go to the web to find some
material to quote from somebody else, she demonstrates so
well that not only does she know nothing about the simple
mechanical and electrical properties of tuning condensers,
she knows nothing about anything and is incapable of
enjoining discussion off the top of her head. It is no
wonder that in an interest that is calimed to have lasted
for 50 years, she has not achieved any licence, not even
an M3/CB Fools' Licence promoted by the gangrenous
degeneration that is the RSCB council and all its members.

What a silly, silly girl is she!


Hello Gazza, would you like me to drag up some more dirt from your past?
You know you wanna. Gowan, gowan, gowan.

1000 sov's to keep quite, OK?


I know, QUIET OK! It's still 1000 sov's.

Wiggy

Orator For Decency February 6th 06 07:49 PM

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Not-Ham throws an infantile temper tantrum at having
been outed as R-F-R, and invokes another of his many
deranged aliases in a desperate attempt to divert
attention away from him.....

The Sweeny Psychiatrist wrote:
Orator For Decency wrote:
Actually, right on cue, Mrs.Nugatory has continued with
her stalking of me, with another sock puppet that provides
a graphic illustration of the critique below!

Go to uk.rec.models.engineering, and google for
author, "Novae Artes"; the modus operandi is
unmistakeable!

She demonstrates so well her neurotic obsession coupled
with her desperate need to make insulting remarks in a
long and vitriolic diatribe that once again, seizes on some
trivial and irrelevant point. (The Yanks almost certainly will
not have heard of Araldite)

Not only that, but by having to go to the web to find some
material to quote from somebody else, she demonstrates so
well that not only does she know nothing about the simple
mechanical and electrical properties of tuning condensers,
she knows nothing about anything and is incapable of
enjoining discussion off the top of her head. It is no
wonder that in an interest that is calimed to have lasted
for 50 years, she has not achieved any licence, not even
an M3/CB Fools' Licence promoted by the gangrenous
degeneration that is the RSCB council and all its members.

What a silly, silly girl is she!

Orator For Decency wrote:
Are there any other snippets about Mrs.Nugatory?

The only things I know about her is her habit of cowering
behind twitching curtains, her watching of the film, "The
Bitches of Toko-Roko", and being able to prove in
20-page obsessive (and irrelevant) dissertations that I
know nothing about certain topics based purely on my
use of a comma in place of a semi-colon.

Orator For Decency wrote:
If Mrs.Nugatory cannot deal with the simple electrical
and mechanical attributes of a tuning capacitor, it
really shows up her habituation for sneering for what it is -
the green eyes of jealousy!


The Psychiatrists report:

When the orator for decency aka Gareth Evans is challenged, criticised,
or just ridiculed,
He refers to the other person(s) as she.

So it seems in order to denigrate them he changes their gender to
female in his postings.

This is extremely interesting, and points to a hatred of females,
followed by their subjugation by him.
It could also be coupled to a deep loathing of his mother who possibly
failed him some way in his eyes.

Such problems are not uncommon in males who have a problem with normal
life.
Also it is quite common in sexually dysfunctional subjects.

I would warn females not to approach an individual with such a profile

His wife has a lot to endure with the obsessive nature of her husband,
and we should feel sorry for her.

This is a case that we will have to study more closely.



The Sweeny Psychiatrist February 6th 06 08:03 PM

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The Psychiatrists report:

When the orator for decency aka Gareth Evans is challenged, criticised,
or just ridiculed,
He refers to the other person(s) as she.

So it seems in order to denigrate them he changes their gender to
female in his postings.

This is extremely interesting, and points to a hatred of females,
followed by their subjugation by him.
It could also be coupled to a deep loathing of his mother who possibly
failed him some way in his eyes.

Such problems are not uncommon in males who have a problem with normal
life.
Also it is quite common in sexually dysfunctional subjects.

I would warn females not to approach an individual with such a profile

His wife has a lot to endure with the obsessive nature of her husband,
and we should feel sorry for her.

This is a case that we will have to study more closely.


Spike February 6th 06 10:02 PM

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Beowolf wrote:


"Orator For Decency" wrote in message
roups.com...
Actually, right on cue, Mrs.Nugatory has continued with
her stalking of me, with another sock puppet that provides
a graphic illustration of the critique below!

Go to uk.rec.models.engineering, and google for
author, "Novae Artes"; the modus operandi is
unmistakeable!


You mean someone ELSE has proved you wrong. This is a common modus operandi

Beowulf


I see from the interesting thread on uk.rec.models.engineering, and a
posting in this thread, that the OP has now gone into his 'deflect
attention' mode.

in this case he has chosen the mechanism - which he can name but
doubtless will not do so - of mentioning something irrelevant to
support what passes for his argument (if it can be graced with such a
name). He said that "The Yanks almost certainly will
not have heard of Araldite", completely missing the point that the
original development of the precursors to the Araldite range were
German and Swiss, and the product marketed internationally!

What a narrow outlook, slim technical base, and thin skin this chap
has.

BTW, what happened to his situation that has made his plea ("Sorry -
no Internet access during the week.") nugatory? Some sort of ISP
failure? A 'high moral stance' in relation to a professional concern?
One wonders - for a microsecond or so.

from
Aero Spike

huLLy February 6th 06 10:15 PM

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Orator For Decency wrote:
Not-Ham throws an infantile temper tantrum at having
been outed as R-F-R, and invokes another of his many
deranged aliases in a desperate attempt to divert
attention away from him.....


Who?
--
huLLy
Tel: 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925



Beowulf February 6th 06 10:20 PM

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"Spike" wrote in message
...

Beowolf wrote:


"Orator For Decency" wrote in message
groups.com...
Actually, right on cue, Mrs.Nugatory has continued with
her stalking of me, with another sock puppet that provides
a graphic illustration of the critique below!

Go to uk.rec.models.engineering, and google for
author, "Novae Artes"; the modus operandi is
unmistakeable!


You mean someone ELSE has proved you wrong. This is a common modus
operandi

Beowulf


I see from the interesting thread on uk.rec.models.engineering, and a
posting in this thread, that the OP has now gone into his 'deflect
attention' mode.

in this case he has chosen the mechanism - which he can name but
doubtless will not do so - of mentioning something irrelevant to
support what passes for his argument (if it can be graced with such a
name). He said that "The Yanks almost certainly will
not have heard of Araldite", completely missing the point that the
original development of the precursors to the Araldite range were
German and Swiss, and the product marketed internationally!

What a narrow outlook, slim technical base, and thin skin this chap
has.

BTW, what happened to his situation that has made his plea ("Sorry -
no Internet access during the week.") nugatory? Some sort of ISP
failure? A 'high moral stance' in relation to a professional concern?
One wonders - for a microsecond or so.


Araldite is well known in he USA.

Check out:

http://www.gluguru.com/Araldite2012.htm

http://www.isaadhesives.com/

Beowulf







Spike February 6th 06 10:39 PM

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Beowulf wrote:


"Spike" wrote in message
.. .

What a narrow outlook, slim technical base, and thin skin this chap
has.

BTW, what happened to his situation that has made his plea ("Sorry -
no Internet access during the week.") nugatory? Some sort of ISP
failure? A 'high moral stance' in relation to a professional concern?
One wonders - for a microsecond or so.


Araldite is well known in he USA.

Check out:

http://www.gluguru.com/Araldite2012.htm

http://www.isaadhesives.com/


What a pity this chap doesn't follow web links. One wonders quite why
he chooses to remain in ignorance, condemned to repeating the same
mistakes over and over.....

from
Aero Spike


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