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Steve Kavanagh June 3rd 06 12:09 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
I'm looking for a data sheet for the 2SC2397. www.datasheetarchive.com
appears to have just a 1 line description. Does anyone have more ?

Steve


Phil Allison June 3rd 06 12:20 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 

"Steve Kavanagh"

I'm looking for a data sheet for the 2SC2397. www.datasheetarchive.com
appears to have just a 1 line description. Does anyone have more ?



** Appears to be an obsolete type.

Several references quote the " MJE3055T " as being a replacement with
similar or better specs.





....... Phil



Spehro Pefhany June 3rd 06 12:54 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
On 3 Jun 2006 04:09:04 -0700, the renowned "Steve Kavanagh"
wrote:

I'm looking for a data sheet for the 2SC2397. www.datasheetarchive.com
appears to have just a 1 line description. Does anyone have more ?

Steve


You can see from the Kanji in the transistor manual that the original
manufacturer is Hitachi (http://www.trexon.com/hitachi.gif)

...along with quite a few parameters. It's designed to be an RF power
amplifier, especially for CB.

This is supposed to be a similar part:
http://www.cpcares.com/pdf/2SC1817.PDF

with a similar (but less) power output rating (15W vs 18W for the
2SC2397 @27MHz output).


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Spehro Pefhany June 3rd 06 12:55 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:20:18 +1000, the renowned "Phil Allison"
wrote:


"Steve Kavanagh"

I'm looking for a data sheet for the 2SC2397. www.datasheetarchive.com
appears to have just a 1 line description. Does anyone have more ?



** Appears to be an obsolete type.

Several references quote the " MJE3055T " as being a replacement with
similar or better specs.


Gack! Well, you can bolt it in the same place and the pinout is the
same, but things kinda fall apart from there.. considering the ft of
the 3055 is 2MHz vs 100MHz for the 2SC2397.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Phil Allison June 3rd 06 01:40 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 

"Spehro Pefhany"


** Appears to be an obsolete type.

Several references quote the " MJE3055T " as being a replacement with
similar or better specs.


Gack! Well, you can bolt it in the same place and the pinout is the
same, but things kinda fall apart from there.. considering the ft of
the 3055 is 2MHz vs 100MHz for the 2SC2397.




** The Motorola " POWER Data Book" of 1982, lists the devices as "similar
replacements" - as does the similar " Bipolar Power Transistor Data " of
1987.

I found at least 7 web sites, including the ST Microelectronics site, with
the same info.

Seems some staffer at Motorola made an error in the early 80s and it has
gone on and on and on ........




........ Phil










Pooh Bear June 3rd 06 01:59 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 


Steve Kavanagh wrote:

I'm looking for a data sheet for the 2SC2397. www.datasheetarchive.com
appears to have just a 1 line description. Does anyone have more ?


Shouldn't be too tricky to sub it. Low voltage ( by my standards ) npn 25W 50MHz
in TO-220 are a dime a dozen surely ?

Graham


Spehro Pefhany June 3rd 06 02:10 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 22:40:39 +1000, the renowned "Phil Allison"
wrote:


"Spehro Pefhany"


** Appears to be an obsolete type.

Several references quote the " MJE3055T " as being a replacement with
similar or better specs.


Gack! Well, you can bolt it in the same place and the pinout is the
same, but things kinda fall apart from there.. considering the ft of
the 3055 is 2MHz vs 100MHz for the 2SC2397.




** The Motorola " POWER Data Book" of 1982, lists the devices as "similar
replacements" - as does the similar " Bipolar Power Transistor Data " of
1987.

I found at least 7 web sites, including the ST Microelectronics site, with
the same info.

Seems some staffer at Motorola made an error in the early 80s and it has
gone on and on and on ........


Maybe someone who was sick of the breaker-breaker-one-nine-rubber-duck
CB craze of the day? ;-) Unfortunately lots of references on the
'net may just mean that the stuff was all copied from one source.

BTW, any Japanese speakers here? The Japanese characters for Hitachi
appear to be only two syllables. The characters would be pronounced
"ri4 li4" in Chinese ('sun' or 'day' and 'stand'), maybe "hi ta" in
Japanese? Is the "chi" just tacked on in English?

Mazda is the opposite-- it's three syllables in Chinese (and probably
Japanese as well). And Alps (the component maker)is two syllables in
Japanese.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Rich Grise June 3rd 06 03:41 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 09:10:44 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 22:40:39 +1000, the renowned "Phil Allison"
...
Seems some staffer at Motorola made an error in the early 80s and it has
gone on and on and on ........


Maybe someone who was sick of the breaker-breaker-one-nine-rubber-duck
CB craze of the day? ;-) Unfortunately lots of references on the
'net may just mean that the stuff was all copied from one source.

BTW, any Japanese speakers here? The Japanese characters for Hitachi
appear to be only two syllables. The characters would be pronounced
"ri4 li4" in Chinese ('sun' or 'day' and 'stand'), maybe "hi ta" in
Japanese? Is the "chi" just tacked on in English?


With Japanese Kanji, there's no telling. ;-) Fujiyama, for example,
is two Kanjis.

Mazda is the opposite-- it's three syllables in Chinese (and probably
Japanese as well). And Alps (the component maker)is two syllables in
Japanese.


In Katagana or Hiragana, Ma zu da is three, yes, but A ru pu su is _four_! ;-)
(I think they're pronounced more like Ma z' da and A r' p' s'. :-) )
To yo ta comes out just right, however. :-)

Cheers!
Rich


Steve Kavanagh June 4th 06 03:15 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
Pooh Bear wrote:
Steve Kavanagh wrote:

I'm looking for a data sheet for the 2SC2397


Shouldn't be too tricky to sub it. Low voltage ( by my standards ) npn 25W 50MHz
in TO-220 are a dime a dozen surely ?


Actually I think such devices characterized for RF PA use are getting a
bit thin on the ground with the CB craze over, most other HF
applications needing more power and low-VHF most often using integrated
modules or at least having the budget for real RF packages. But some
comparison with other data sheets might be useful.

I actually have some (and a source for more at a good price, though
production is not my intent) but was pondering if they could be
stretched to 50 MHz, so the data sheets for similar devices may not be
too applicable. Especially the MJE3055T !! I had noticed that curious
substitution suggestion !

Steve


raul June 4th 06 04:51 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
While I do not have a datasheet,
NTE quickcross has no equal,

here is some info for you (I'm not the author)

Many Asian-sourced semiconductors are marked per the
EIAJ standard
Electronic Industries Association of Japan,
which uses this code:

2Saxxxxb

2S -- a hint that it's not JEDEC

a -- the type of semiconductor, where
A = PNP bipolar
B = PNP bipolar
C = NPN bipolar
D = NPN bipolar
F = SCR
J = P-channel FET
K = N-channel FET
xxxx= 3- or 4-digit number

b = a suffix sometimes applied to designate updated
versions

Usually but not always,
if xxxx for 2A or 2B is under 500, or 2SC or
2SD is under 100, it's germanium;
else silicon for bipolars.

Provided by
Jim N6OTQ



Spehro Pefhany June 4th 06 08:02 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:41:19 GMT, the renowned Rich Grise
wrote:

On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 09:10:44 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 22:40:39 +1000, the renowned "Phil Allison"
...
Seems some staffer at Motorola made an error in the early 80s and it has
gone on and on and on ........


Maybe someone who was sick of the breaker-breaker-one-nine-rubber-duck
CB craze of the day? ;-) Unfortunately lots of references on the
'net may just mean that the stuff was all copied from one source.

BTW, any Japanese speakers here? The Japanese characters for Hitachi
appear to be only two syllables. The characters would be pronounced
"ri4 li4" in Chinese ('sun' or 'day' and 'stand'), maybe "hi ta" in
Japanese? Is the "chi" just tacked on in English?


With Japanese Kanji, there's no telling. ;-) Fujiyama, for example,
is two Kanjis.


So it's not one syllable per character like Chinese? Interesting.

Mazda is the opposite-- it's three syllables in Chinese (and probably
Japanese as well). And Alps (the component maker)is two syllables in
Japanese.


In Katagana or Hiragana, Ma zu da is three, yes, but A ru pu su is _four_! ;-)
(I think they're pronounced more like Ma z' da and A r' p' s'. :-) )
To yo ta comes out just right, however. :-)

Cheers!
Rich



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Pooh Bear June 4th 06 08:22 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 


Jamie wrote:

(HIT) NPN 60V 8A TRANSISTOR T0-220
Vcbo = 60v
Vbeo = 5 v
Pc = 25w/
etc..
etc..
looks like a generic 2n3055 type..


You missed ft = 50 MHz.

Not like a 3055 at all.

I notice your 'advice' seems to be regularly flawed. I suggest you take more
care.

Graham


Bob June 4th 06 08:57 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 

"Steve Kavanagh" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm looking for a data sheet for the 2SC2397. www.datasheetarchive.com
appears to have just a 1 line description. Does anyone have more ?

Steve


I used to work with a guy named Kavanagh, here in California. Does the name
Dracon ring a bell?

Bob



Jamie June 4th 06 09:27 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
raul wrote:

While I do not have a datasheet,
NTE quickcross has no equal,

here is some info for you (I'm not the author)

Many Asian-sourced semiconductors are marked per the
EIAJ standard
Electronic Industries Association of Japan,
which uses this code:

2Saxxxxb

2S -- a hint that it's not JEDEC

a -- the type of semiconductor, where
A = PNP bipolar
B = PNP bipolar
C = NPN bipolar
D = NPN bipolar
F = SCR
J = P-channel FET
K = N-channel FET
xxxx= 3- or 4-digit number

b = a suffix sometimes applied to designate updated
versions

Usually but not always,
if xxxx for 2A or 2B is under 500, or 2SC or
2SD is under 100, it's germanium;
else silicon for bipolars.

Provided by
Jim N6OTQ



(HIT) NPN 60V 8A TRANSISTOR T0-220
Vcbo = 60v
Vbeo = 5 v
Pc = 25w/
etc..
etc..
looks like a generic 2n3055 type..



--
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5


Michael A. Terrell June 5th 06 04:35 AM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
Jamie wrote:

(HIT) NPN 60V 8A TRANSISTOR T0-220
Vcbo = 60v
Vbeo = 5 v
Pc = 25w/
etc..
etc..
looks like a generic 2n3055 type..



Really? What are you going to do with the other 90 watts? The TO-3
version is rated at 115 watts It isn't even close. Even the plastic
version is 90 watts


http://www.onsemi.com/PowerSolutions/search.do?searchString=2n3055&searchType=others&ta bbed=Y&clearFilters=Y


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael A. Terrell June 5th 06 05:48 AM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
Jamie wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jamie wrote:

(HIT) NPN 60V 8A TRANSISTOR T0-220
Vcbo = 60v
Vbeo = 5 v
Pc = 25w/
etc..
etc..
looks like a generic 2n3055 type..




Really? What are you going to do with the other 90 watts? The TO-3
version is rated at 115 watts It isn't even close. Even the plastic
version is 90 watts

what to do with the remaining watts? i don't see your
point?



That's about what I expected.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Jamie June 5th 06 08:10 AM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jamie wrote:

(HIT) NPN 60V 8A TRANSISTOR T0-220
Vcbo = 60v
Vbeo = 5 v
Pc = 25w/
etc..
etc..
looks like a generic 2n3055 type..




Really? What are you going to do with the other 90 watts? The TO-3
version is rated at 115 watts It isn't even close. Even the plastic
version is 90 watts

what to do with the remaining watts? i don't see your
point?


--
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5


[email protected] June 5th 06 02:20 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
Bob wrote:

I used to work with a guy named Kavanagh, here in California. Does the name
Dracon ring a bell?


Sorry, it doesn't. I've been to California a few times on business
trips but I'm in Ontario (Canada, not California !).

Steve


Satoru Uzawa July 12th 06 06:55 PM

2SC2397 Datasheet ?
 
Sphero,

The way Japanese read Chinese chracters is done in two ways.
1. Something resembles the original Chinese pronounciation at the time
Like Hitachi's "Hi" part.
2. Ancient Japanese word adopted to a Chinese chracter with same meaning.
Like Hitachi's "Tachi" part. This means "standing", as you mentioned.

Hitachi is the name of the city where Hitachi originated as a repair
facility for the mine there in 1910.

Mazda is actually "Matsuda", which is composed of "Matsu (pine tree)" and
"Ta (field)". "Ta" changes to "Da" when it is attached to some other
character (sorry, forgot how is called in English). "Matsu" and "Ta" are
both from ancient Japanese words.
Alps is named after the English term "Alps".

Hope I'm not confusing you even more!

Regards,
Satoru

BTW, any Japanese speakers here? The Japanese characters for Hitachi
appear to be only two syllables. The characters would be pronounced
"ri4 li4" in Chinese ('sun' or 'day' and 'stand'), maybe "hi ta" in
Japanese? Is the "chi" just tacked on in English?

Mazda is the opposite-- it's three syllables in Chinese (and probably
Japanese as well). And Alps (the component maker)is two syllables in
Japanese.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany



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