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The term "Elmer"
How old is the term "Elmer"?
I was licensed in 1973 or 74, and remained active until abt. 1980. I can't remember the term "Elmer" from then. This was in Norway, of course, but I did read QST and the ARRL books. The first mention of "Elmer" I can remember was on the internet - slashdot.org - in the nineties. (I didn't find my way back into radio until 2004.) Did I just miss "Elmer" in the seventies, or is the term more recent? 73 LA4RT Jon |
The term "Elmer"
"LA4RT Jon Kåre Hellan" wrote
How old is the term "Elmer"? Much older than you think. I was licensed in '63 and I had an Elmer, who I think was known as such back then. I think the term goes way back before that. Howard N7SO (I think...) ;-) |
The term "Elmer"
"LA4RT Jon Kåre Hellan" wrote in message ... How old is the term "Elmer"? I was licensed in 1973 or 74, and remained active until abt. 1980. I can't remember the term "Elmer" from then. This was in Norway, of course, but I did read QST and the ARRL books. The first mention of "Elmer" I can remember was on the internet - slashdot.org - in the nineties. (I didn't find my way back into radio until 2004.) see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmer The term "Elmer"--meaning someone who provides personal guidance and assistance to would-be hams--first appeared in QST in a March 1971 "How's DX" column by Rod Newkirk, W9BRD (now also VA3ZBB). |
The term "Elmer"
"LA4RT Jon Kåre Hellan" wrote in message ... How old is the term "Elmer"? I was licensed in 1973 or 74, and remained active until abt. 1980. I can't remember the term "Elmer" from then. This was in Norway, of course, but I did read QST and the ARRL books. The first mention of "Elmer" I can remember was on the internet - slashdot.org - in the nineties. (I didn't find my way back into radio until 2004.) Did I just miss "Elmer" in the seventies, or is the term more recent? 73 LA4RT Jon From the internet a few years ago, this was reported. ""From Norm K1AA " The term "Elmer" was invented in the early 1970s (1971 , I think) by Rod Newkirk, W9BRD" W9BRD was a radio dispatcher with the Illin ois State Police. One of his co-workers was Elmer "Bud" Frohardt, W9GFF, now W9DY. I've only met W9BRD once, but I've known W9DY since 1968. Bud was v ery well known locally for his involvement with the RAMS (Radio Amateur Megacycle Society) radio club, and he was always helping newcomers to the hobby. So when Rod Newkirk started writing about Elmer in the "How's DX" column in QST, he was writing about his friend Bud. I saw Bud quite recen tly and asked him to re-confirm my recollection that he was the inspiration f or Elmer, and he did." From From Norm K1AA Lamont |
The term "Elmer"
Jon,
An interesting discussion he http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/club/mentor/ I was licensed in 1964, and neither had an Elmer, nor recall that term being in use at the time when I finally located a radio club. Of course, it may well have been in use elsewhere. -- Alan WA4SCA |
The term "Elmer"
I was also licensed in the early 60s and I remember the term "Elmer" being
in common use back then. George, K6GW "LA4RT Jon Kåre Hellan" wrote in message ... How old is the term "Elmer"? I was licensed in 1973 or 74, and remained active until abt. 1980. I can't remember the term "Elmer" from then. This was in Norway, of course, but I did read QST and the ARRL books. The first mention of "Elmer" I can remember was on the internet - slashdot.org - in the nineties. (I didn't find my way back into radio until 2004.) Did I just miss "Elmer" in the seventies, or is the term more recent? 73 LA4RT Jon |
The term "Elmer"
LVN wrote:
The term "Elmer"--meaning someone who provides personal guidance and assistance to would-be hams--first appeared in QST in a March 1971 "How's DX" column by Rod Newkirk, W9BRD (now also VA3ZBB). The fact that it first appeared in QST in 1971 doesn't mean it wasn't used before then. The fact that W9BRD picked the name "Elmer" in his QST text "Too frequently one hears a sad story in this little nutshell: 'Oh, I almost got a ticket, too, but Elmer, W9XYZ, moved away and I kind of lost interest.'" may indicate that "Elmer" was already in common use. After all, "Elmer" isn't a very common name that would have sprung to his mind. I *think* that "Elmer" was a term that I used when I was first licensed in the 60's . . . but maybe I am remembering the 70's instead of the 60's. 73, Steve KB9X |
The term "Elmer"
"LA4RT Jon Kåre Hellan" wrote in message ... How old is the term "Elmer"? I was licensed in 1973 or 74, and remained active until abt. 1980. I can't remember the term "Elmer" from then. This was in Norway, of course, but I did read QST and the ARRL books. The first mention of "Elmer" I can remember was on the internet - slashdot.org - in the nineties. (I didn't find my way back into radio until 2004.) Did I just miss "Elmer" in the seventies, or is the term more recent? 73 LA4RT Jon My "Elmer" W9MZ at that time, began to school me in Amateur Radio in 1975 while I was 16 years old . I remember referring to Bill as my Elmer . Ace - WH2T .. |
The term "Elmer"
"Steve Bonine" wrote in message ... LVN wrote: The term "Elmer"--meaning someone who provides personal guidance and assistance to would-be hams--first appeared in QST in a March 1971 "How's DX" column by Rod Newkirk, W9BRD (now also VA3ZBB). The fact that it first appeared in QST in 1971 doesn't mean it wasn't used before then. The fact that W9BRD picked the name "Elmer" in his QST text "Too frequently one hears a sad story in this little nutshell: 'Oh, I almost got a ticket, too, but Elmer, W9XYZ, moved away and I kind of lost interest.'" may indicate that "Elmer" was already in common use. After all, "Elmer" isn't a very common name that would have sprung to his mind. I *think* that "Elmer" was a term that I used when I was first licensed in the 60's . . . but maybe I am remembering the 70's instead of the 60's. Alright then Elmer is an English surname derived from "the Old English aethel (noble) and maer (famous). It was first adopted as a given name in the 19th Century, most popularly in the United States". Noble and Famous sounds about right. -- 10-10 (till we do it again) de G1LVN -- My Call is M0WWS. I had an accident, and I woke up in uk.radio.amateur. Am I mad, in a coma, or back in time? ---------------------------------------------- |
The term "Elmer"
On Fri, 11 May 2007 09:39:03 -0400, Howard Lester wrote:
Much older than you think. I was licensed in '63 and I had an Elmer, who I think was known as such back then. I think the term goes way back before that. Yes, WAY back before that. I was also first licensed in 1963, and "Elmer" was a popular and often-used term at the time. My elmer was my father, now a silent key, who was first licensed in 1921, and he often spoke of HIS elmer from those days. Whether the actual term "elmer" was used in 1921 I obviously can't say from first hand experience, but I am QUITE certain that the term dates back at least to the 50's or 40's. |
The term "Elmer"
Rick (W-A-one-R-K-T) wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2007 09:39:03 -0400, Howard Lester wrote: I was licensed in '63 I was also first licensed in 1963, How bizarre. I was also first licensed in 1963. 73, Steve KB9X ex WN4NUJ |
The term "Elmer"
"Steve Bonine" wrote Rick (W-A-one-R-K-T) wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 09:39:03 -0400, Howard Lester wrote: I was licensed in '63 I was also first licensed in 1963, How bizarre. I was also first licensed in 1963. 73, Steve KB9X ex WN4NUJ We could start a '63 Club. :-) N7SO ex WN2KPO (and a few others since Friday, Sept 13, 1963) |
The term "Elmer"
Howard Lester wrote:
"Steve Bonine" wrote Rick (W-A-one-R-K-T) wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 09:39:03 -0400, Howard Lester wrote: I was licensed in '63 I was also first licensed in 1963, How bizarre. I was also first licensed in 1963. 73, Steve KB9X ex WN4NUJ We could start a '63 Club. :-) N7SO ex WN2KPO (and a few others since Friday, Sept 13, 1963) Hmm... would you say 63 to the other fellow at the end of a QSO? You could say it means "Bestest Regards"! ;^) Vy 63, Bryan WA7PRC |
The term "Elmer"
"Bryan" wrote We could start a '63 Club. :-) N7SO ex WN2KPO (and a few others since Friday, Sept 13, 1963) Hmm... would you say 63 to the other fellow at the end of a QSO? You could say it means "Bestest Regards"! ;^) Vy 63, Bryan WA7PRC Hmmmmmm! To me, "63" sounds like you're telling me where to go.... "Oh yeah, well 63 to you, too!" ;-) |
73, 88 and other telegraph numbers
Here you go pick one -- maybe 1 or 99
In 1859, Western Union standardized on the "92 code" in which the numbers from 1 to 92 were assigned meanings. 1 Wait a moment 2 Important Business 3 What time is it? 4 Where shall I go ahead? 5 Have you business for me? 6 I am ready 7 Are you ready? 8 Close your key; circuit is busy 9 Close your key for priority business (Wire chief, dispatcher, etc) 10 Keep this circuit closed 12 Do you understand? 13 I understand 14 What is the weather? 15 For you and other to copy 17 Lightning here 18 What is the trouble? 19 Form 19 train order 21 Stop for a meal 22 Wire test 23 All copy 24 Repeat this back 25 Busy on another wire 26 Put on ground wire 27 Priority, very important 28 Do you get my writing? 29 Private, deliver in sealed envelope 30 No more (end) 31 Form 31 train order 32 I understand that I am to ... 33 Car report (Also, answer is paid for) 34 Message for all officers 35 You may use my signal to answer this 37 Diversion (Also, inform all interested) 39 Important, with priority on thru wire (Also, sleep-car report) 44 Answer promptly by wire 73 Best regards 88 Love and kisses 91 Superintendent's signal 92 Deliver promptly OTHERS 93 Vice President and General Manager's signals 95 President's signal 99 = Get Lost (probably unofficial) 134 Who is at the key? "Howard Lester" wrote in message ... "Bryan" wrote We could start a '63 Club. :-) N7SO ex WN2KPO (and a few others since Friday, Sept 13, 1963) Hmm... would you say 63 to the other fellow at the end of a QSO? You could say it means "Bestest Regards"! ;^) Vy 63, Bryan WA7PRC Hmmmmmm! To me, "63" sounds like you're telling me where to go.... "Oh yeah, well 63 to you, too!" ;-) |
73, 88 and other telegraph numbers
Can I join the '63 Club?
First licensed in '63. First job out of college was with Western Union in northern NJ. George, K6GW "The Shadow" wrote in message ... Here you go pick one -- maybe 1 or 99 In 1859, Western Union standardized on the "92 code" in which the numbers from 1 to 92 were assigned meanings. 1 Wait a moment 2 Important Business 3 What time is it? 4 Where shall I go ahead? 5 Have you business for me? 6 I am ready 7 Are you ready? 8 Close your key; circuit is busy 9 Close your key for priority business (Wire chief, dispatcher, etc) 10 Keep this circuit closed 12 Do you understand? 13 I understand 14 What is the weather? 15 For you and other to copy 17 Lightning here 18 What is the trouble? 19 Form 19 train order 21 Stop for a meal 22 Wire test 23 All copy 24 Repeat this back 25 Busy on another wire 26 Put on ground wire 27 Priority, very important 28 Do you get my writing? 29 Private, deliver in sealed envelope 30 No more (end) 31 Form 31 train order 32 I understand that I am to ... 33 Car report (Also, answer is paid for) 34 Message for all officers 35 You may use my signal to answer this 37 Diversion (Also, inform all interested) 39 Important, with priority on thru wire (Also, sleep-car report) 44 Answer promptly by wire 73 Best regards 88 Love and kisses 91 Superintendent's signal 92 Deliver promptly OTHERS 93 Vice President and General Manager's signals 95 President's signal 99 = Get Lost (probably unofficial) 134 Who is at the key? "Howard Lester" wrote in message ... "Bryan" wrote We could start a '63 Club. :-) N7SO ex WN2KPO (and a few others since Friday, Sept 13, 1963) Hmm... would you say 63 to the other fellow at the end of a QSO? You could say it means "Bestest Regards"! ;^) Vy 63, Bryan WA7PRC Hmmmmmm! To me, "63" sounds like you're telling me where to go.... "Oh yeah, well 63 to you, too!" ;-) |
73, 88 and other telegraph numbers
"George" wrote
Can I join the '63 Club? First licensed in '63. First job out of college was with Western Union in northern NJ. George, K6GW Sure - and welcome! First read the charter. Wait - first WRITE the charter, and let me know when you're done. ;-) Howard N7SO |
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