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[email protected] June 19th 07 03:50 AM

Field Day?
 
Folks,

What are people doing for Field Day this year?

73 de Jim, N2EY


Mike Andrews June 19th 07 04:06 AM

Field Day?
 
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:50:50 EDT, wrote in .com:
Folks,


What are people doing for Field Day this year?


Staying home. The local club has talked the talk two years running,
telling my wife and others that they were welcome to operate, but
failed to walk the walk and actually let them operate when they asked
to. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." The
crowning glory was the club president and the repeater trustee jumping
her at a meeting because she dared to bring up the problems with the
repeater during bad weather, precisely when the repeater is most
needed. I've been on the club repeater since then only to run my
weekly net, and that'll die when my dues and membership expire.

I'll be catching up on house maintenance. Y'all have fun.

--
"No lusers were harmed in the creation of this usenet article.
AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY NOT!"
--glmar04 at twirl.mcc.ac.uk in a.s.r


AF6AY June 19th 07 04:27 AM

Field Day?
 
On Jun 18, 6:50?pm, wrote:
Folks,

What are people doing for Field Day this year?


The CONTEST called a "Readiness Exercise" is just another contest.
Always has been. If it's a Contest going on, there's little point in
listening to "the bands" (the HF ones) since there is very little
evidence of actual "Readiness" activity that is supposed to be a
hallmark of an outing in the park with buddies.

If "Field Day" were an ACTUAL Readiness Exercise I would consider
joining in once I had some portable equipment. Since I don't and
since it isn't, I'll just stay in my air conditioned home and "work on
my code."

PIC programming code, that is... :-)

Y'all have fun, heah?

73, AF6AY


Mike Coslo June 19th 07 08:03 AM

Field Day?
 
AF6AY wrote in news:1182223631.882670.254980
@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

On Jun 18, 6:50?pm, wrote:
Folks,

What are people doing for Field Day this year?


The CONTEST called a "Readiness Exercise" is just another contest.
Always has been. If it's a Contest going on, there's little point in
listening to "the bands" (the HF ones) since there is very little
evidence of actual "Readiness" activity that is supposed to be a
hallmark of an outing in the park with buddies.

If "Field Day" were an ACTUAL Readiness Exercise I would consider
joining in once I had some portable equipment. Since I don't and
since it isn't, I'll just stay in my air conditioned home and "work on
my code."


Our club alternates between a low power, and a high power Field
Day. While I personally like the low power FD better, some of the other
guys really like to run legal limit into a 40 meter beam on a portable
tower. So we compromise and alternate. We'll be running 3A, with a
dedicated CW station, a dedicated 40 meter station, and a Other
frequency/80 meter evening station. We'll have a recieve antenna at the
perimiter of what is allowed to eliminate the interference you get when
you have a lot of high power stations operating in close proximity.

Y'all have fun, heah?


Nothing better! Folks come out to chat as well as operate. We socialize
and have a mostly relaxing weekend (hard to call it all relaxing when I
pull the night shift on 80 meters - I'm pretty tired by Sunday afternoon)
It's always a little interesting trying to talk the local pizza places
into delivering to a field outside of town. Sometimes they do, and
sometimes they won't.

Of course Field Day isn't for everyone.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


Michael Coslo June 19th 07 04:16 PM

Field Day?
 
Mike Andrews wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:50:50 EDT, wrote in .com:
Folks,


What are people doing for Field Day this year?


Staying home. The local club has talked the talk two years running,
telling my wife and others that they were welcome to operate, but
failed to walk the walk and actually let them operate when they asked
to.


Sounds like you need a new club.

One thought on all this. It is quite possible that "they" got just what
they wanted if they squelched your XYL and you. But will you let them?

Might be time to have your own Field day setup. If your family is being
stepped on, there might be some others in the same situation who might
join with you.



I'll be catching up on house maintenance. Y'all have fun.



We sure will! 8^)


Jerseyj June 19th 07 05:20 PM

Field Day?
 
In article .com,
wrote:

Folks,

What are people doing for Field Day this year?

73 de Jim, N2EY


I'm participating with my local club , probably do a graveyard shift and
have my wife (not licensed) join me to log and operate if she wants to.

I really don't get a club that says the YL is welcome and then doesn't
let her operate. Time for a conversation or a new club possibly.

Jerry


AF6AY June 19th 07 09:50 PM

Field Day?
 
Mike Coslo wrote on Tues 19 Jun 2007 03:03:

AF6AY wrote in news:1182223631.882670.254980
:

If "Field Day" were an ACTUAL Readiness Exercise I would consider
joining in once I had some portable equipment. Since I don't and
since it isn't, I'll just stay in my air conditioned home and "work on
my code."


Our club alternates between a low power, and a high power Field
Day. While I personally like the low power FD better, some of the other
guys really like to run legal limit into a 40 meter beam on a portable
tower. So we compromise and alternate. We'll be running 3A, with a
dedicated CW station, a dedicated 40 meter station, and a Other
frequency/80 meter evening station. We'll have a recieve antenna at the
perimiter of what is allowed to eliminate the interference you get when
you have a lot of high power stations operating in close proximity.


So, it's been a Contest all along, hasn't it? Not really a "Readiness
Exercise" for "emergency communications" as has been rationalized
(seemingly forever) by lots of old-timers and the ARRL. Why don't
they come out and admit the truth of what it IS and has always been?

I see nothing wrong with having an Outing At A Park for ham radio,
particularly on a nice day in June which is ideal for northern-climate
folks (I grew up in northern Illinois and know what it is like). It's
an
ideal club "togetherness" activity away from the usual clubhouse
atmosphere. I think it would be better for all to stop the pretense
of
a "readiness exercise" and just call it what it IS, a Contest From
Field Locations.

It's always a little interesting trying to talk the local pizza places
into delivering to a field outside of town. Sometimes they do, and
sometimes they won't.


In real emergencies one could not expect pizza places to be open
and running. Even during a fine day in June. No male-oriented club
has members with a roll-away barbecue grill? There was a whole
page of Field Day Recipes in the last QST.

Of course Field Day isn't for everyone.


True enough. At least a third of respondents to the ARRL on-line
informal, unscientific Poll said they wouldn't be participating.

Emergency Preparedness drills using radio? Been there, done
that. The Army and Marines know how to do it, even at QRP RF
power levels. In all kinds of weather at any time of day or night.
The only "contesting" done is plain SURVIVAL.

Not to worry about this station in southern six-land. I won't be
radiating RF during Field Day. I'll be at a diferent picnic. Non-
ham-radio picnic. Enjoy.

Sincerely, Len, AF6AY


Phil Kane June 20th 07 12:13 AM

Field Day?
 
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:27:32 EDT, AF6AY wrote:

If "Field Day" were an ACTUAL Readiness Exercise I would consider
joining in once I had some portable equipment.


And what training and qualification of proficiency do you have to slip
into the seat at a disaster EOC/ICP or field position and be an
effective communicator, such as familiarity with the operation and the
communication needs of the site and served agency or even the message
protocols and formats in use and where and how they are to be passed?

In an emergency or disaster situation, we need TRAINED "message
passers", far more than untrained drop-in volunteers. We are always
ready to train folks before anything happens, but we really don't have
the time or resources to train folks when the stuff is flowing.

And our Team does run Field Day as a Readiness Exercise, complete with
call-outs and dispersal assignments.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Member, Washington County (Oregon)
Emergency Communications Team
ARES/RACES and HEARTNET Qualified


Mike Coslo June 20th 07 03:08 AM

Field Day?
 
Phil Kane wrote in
:

And our Team does run Field Day as a Readiness Exercise, complete with
call-outs and dispersal assignments.



Phil, I would bet if an enterprising fellow were to write up
something about their operations, it might be pretty well received.. (wink
wink) 8^)

I am very interested in how your group does it. I'm always looking
for ways to generate some interest, and this could be a great way to work
with our EC.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


Mike Coslo June 20th 07 03:09 AM

Field Day?
 
AF6AY wrote in
oups.com:

Mike Coslo wrote on Tues 19 Jun 2007 03:03:

AF6AY wrote in news:1182223631.882670.254980
:

If "Field Day" were an ACTUAL Readiness Exercise I would consider
joining in once I had some portable equipment. Since I don't and
since it isn't, I'll just stay in my air conditioned home and "work
on my code."


Our club alternates between a low power, and a high power
Field
Day. While I personally like the low power FD better, some of the
other guys really like to run legal limit into a 40 meter beam on a
portable tower. So we compromise and alternate. We'll be running 3A,
with a dedicated CW station, a dedicated 40 meter station, and a Other
frequency/80 meter evening station. We'll have a recieve antenna at
the perimiter of what is allowed to eliminate the interference you get
when you have a lot of high power stations operating in close
proximity.


So, it's been a Contest all along, hasn't it? Not really a "Readiness
Exercise" for "emergency communications" as has been rationalized
(seemingly forever) by lots of old-timers and the ARRL. Why don't
they come out and admit the truth of what it IS and has always been?


Not sure that I understand. We come out and get on the air, with
different styles of operation from year to year. Certainly if it
were done in contest fashion, our approach would be different.



I see nothing wrong with having an Outing At A Park for ham radio,
particularly on a nice day in June which is ideal for northern-climate
folks (I grew up in northern Illinois and know what it is like). It's
an ideal club "togetherness" activity away from the usual clubhouse
atmosphere. I think it would be better for all to stop the pretense
of a "readiness exercise" and just call it what it IS, a Contest From
Field Locations.


Field Day is designed to get people on the air. For some, this is
the only weekend that they do get on the air. In our club, they work
and learn how to put a station together, and how to operate. We
encourage the newbies or less experienced folk to do some operation.
If it were a contest, there would only be about three of us
operating the whole time. The new guys and gals can only operate at
about 25 percent the rate that our more experienced Ops can.

Field day was how I was enticed to go for my General license. A
patient and more experienced amateur had me log for him for a couple
hours, then turned the mic over to me. I am a quick study, but my
operation in that first Field Day cost the club quite a few points.
Now I run Field Day for them...



It's always a little interesting trying to talk the local pizza places
into delivering to a field outside of town. Sometimes they do, and
sometimes they won't.


In real emergencies one could not expect pizza places to be open
and running. Even during a fine day in June. No male-oriented club
has members with a roll-away barbecue grill? There was a whole
page of Field Day Recipes in the last QST.


I've had these conversations often with local Hams about the very
subject. While it is very true that the conditions do mot emulate
the likely reality of an emergency, the basics of what is needed is
the ability to erect a portable station that operates off of the
mains, operate the station and gain or practice proficiency in that
operation, and then tear down and pack up when it is over.

After all, in a real emergency the operators might be freezing,
injured, starving, suffering from malaria or radiation poisoning or
even worse.

Probably would be hard to get many volunteers if we insisted on
literal accuracy of conditions! ;^)


- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


AF6AY June 20th 07 05:36 AM

Field Day?
 
Phil Kane wrote on Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:13:38 EDT:

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:27:32 EDT, AF6AY wrote:

If "Field Day" were an ACTUAL Readiness Exercise I would
consider joining in once I had some portable equipment.


And what training and qualification of proficiency do you have to slip
into the seat at a disaster EOC/ICP or field position and be an
effective communicator, such as familiarity with the operation and the
communication needs of the site and served agency or even the message
protocols and formats in use and where and how they are to be passed?


I did not target ANY specific "EOC/ICP" organization. My diatribe
was directed towards the ARRL and the old-timers who've
mouthed all those legendary rationales about FIELD DAY being a
"readiness exercise."

I used the word CONSIDER in my sentence you quoted. I've
never claimed to know every procedure and protocol used by
each and every "EOC/ICP" in existance. I've considered lots of
things in my life.

Well, I'll have to rescind my consideration. I am so unworthy.
Besides, I don't reside in Oregon, not even close to it. If I were to
CONSIDER any REAL emergency preparedness group it would
be the Los Angeles Auxilliary Communications service. One of
their base stations is loaned to the ARRL VEC as a site for US
amateur radio license examinations. So far, nobody at "Old
Firehouse Number 77" has snarled at me for any reason.

I don't consider myself knowledgeable or trained enough to
"slip into the seat of an "EOC/ICP" position and "push traffic
through." I HAVE been good enough - without training - to
assist in communications of utility companies during a real
emergency on 17 January 1994. But, I don't claim that is
good enough to "slip into any [emergency comms] seat"
and do what is Right and Proper. I have been trained in the
military to do very portable communications under simulated
explosions and automatic gunfire common to combat
conditions. But that doesn't count towards being able to
push traffic according to protocol and procedure of any
particular civilian volunteer group.

In an emergency or disaster situation, we need TRAINED "message
passers", far more than untrained drop-in volunteers. We are always
ready to train folks before anything happens, but we really don't have
the time or resources to train folks when the stuff is flowing.


Now what have I been saying elesewhere about training? OF
COURSE there needs to be training, drills, observation of
effectiveness and revision of plans if that seems necessary.
That does go on down here and did before 17 January 1994.
it works. I've seen it work. In a real emergency.

And our Team does run Field Day as a Readiness Exercise, complete with
call-outs and dispersal assignments.


Well, good on "your Team." However, the ARRL-sponsored Field
Day is a Contest in its basic form. Will "your Team" get a good
score in that contest with everyone trained and motivated for
emergencies? Isn't a good score the epitome of any Field
Day outing?

Does "your Team" do its drilling and training and whatever on
NON-Field Day weekends? I hope they do. Readiness isn't a
holiday-sort of thing and exercises shouldn't planned months in
advance, advertised in national magazines. Real emergencies
can strike without any advance warning. QST won't know
about it until well after the fact.

Do real emergencies allow perfect protocol and procedure
to work? I'm not sure about that. Can everyone keep their
cool when a sudden aftershock trembles everything around
them? Some real emergencies can actually destroy some
comm nodes or the personnel to man them.

Hey, I apologize for ruffling feathers of other organizations
by directing my comments to the ARRL. So much so that
I don't think it is worthwhile to comment much on anything
any more in this newsgroup. Too many get all upset at
contrary-to-established-ideas. :-(

AF6AY




Bryan June 20th 07 06:54 AM

Field Day?
 
Jim N2EY wrote:
Folks,

What are people doing for Field Day this year?

73 de Jim, N2EY


I'm joining with the Machias Radio Group near Snohomish, WA:
http://www.geocities.com/bswadener/fd2007/. We'll be running in 2A + VHF/UHF
(7 ops). I understand several other hams (and non-hams) may cruise by for
short visits

One HF station will be using Zepps and a 2 element wire quad for 40m. Power
will be from gas engine-driven generator. The other station will be using my
40' homebrew tiltup/rotatable mast w/ a "Crushcraft" A3S for 20/15/10m yagi
on top. The top guyset will be 80 & 40m inverted vees. The 80m antenna
will be a 4 wire cage -- 400KHz BW -- no tuner needed! Power will be from
4 x Group27 batteries in parallel w/ a homebrew DC-DC boost regulator to get
13.8V to the radio. The logging PC will have it's own homebrew DC-DC boost
converter.

Vy 73,
Bryan WA7PRC



Dee Flint June 20th 07 11:01 PM

Field Day?
 

"AF6AY" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jun 18, 6:50?pm, wrote:
Folks,

What are people doing for Field Day this year?


The CONTEST called a "Readiness Exercise" is just another contest.
Always has been. If it's a Contest going on, there's little point in
listening to "the bands" (the HF ones) since there is very little
evidence of actual "Readiness" activity that is supposed to be a
hallmark of an outing in the park with buddies.

If "Field Day" were an ACTUAL Readiness Exercise I would consider
joining in once I had some portable equipment. Since I don't and
since it isn't, I'll just stay in my air conditioned home and "work on
my code."

PIC programming code, that is... :-)

Y'all have fun, heah?

73, AF6AY


No need to have portable equipment. Many take down their base stations,
pack them up, take them out to the field day site, set them up and operate.
One guy brings out his full size Ten-Tec.

Dee, N8UZE



jim June 21st 07 01:10 PM

Field Day?
 
hi

our club runs a 7a field day setup at the farm of a member.

everyone is welcome to stop in and operate, log, have fun
and many stay overnight starting friday night.

we are running a GOTA station again this year, big success,
they scheduled groups of scouts (boy and girl), several chruch
youth groups, etc all stopped in and worked HF,
what a blast to see they young pups operate !

all our 7a stations have at least one extra class so anyone
can operate (club member or vistior) we just watch for third party
rules.

all our gear is fullsize base stations running off gensets
either the newer honda inverters (1.5 up to 10kw) or the generac types.

we also invite tv and elected officials to stop in and operate.

73 jimbo


[email protected] June 22nd 07 04:17 PM

Field Day?
 
On Jun 19, 2:50 am, wrote:
Folks,

What are people doing for Field Day this year?

73 de Jim, N2EY



N8NN and I will be on the grounds of his place near Moundsville, WV.
The Class 1B operation will be mostly CW. We've geared up to snag
some of the bonus points. We'll be operating with my call.

We have a promise from a WV State Senator to visit. We'll have a
sign, table with literature on amateur radio and a visitors log.
We'll copy the annual FD message and pass a message via NTS.

It is highly likely that we'll have some hamburger prepared using
emergency methods (on a propane grill). My wife and I will sleep in
simulated emergency conditions in Bert's motor home. In an actual
emergency, we'd have to fire up the motor home's 10 KW diesel
generator. Radio power will come from a little 2 KW Honda gasoline
generator.

We'll skip the extra hours of operation and put up our antennas this
afternoon.

73,

Dave K8MN


[email protected] June 23rd 07 03:52 AM

Field Day?
 
On Jun 18, 10:50?pm, wrote:

What are people doing for Field Day this year?


Thanks to all who answered my question - and good luck to all who
participate in FD 2007.

This year I'll be going out with a club group, running 3A. This FD is
part readiness-exercise, part training, part publicity, part contest,
and part social event. The first 100 points are already in the log.

If my count is right, this will be FD number 40 for me. Haven't missed
one since I was a Novice. Doesn't seem like four decades since those
days. Been lucky enough to do FD with big clubs, small clubs, small
nonclub groups of a couple hams, and even single-handed. Even had an
FD story in QST some years back. Always a lot of fun.

73 es GL de Jim, N2EY





Pat Cook June 24th 07 08:43 PM

Field Day?
 
Hi everyone:
"Mike Andrews" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:50:50 EDT, wrote in
.com:
Folks,


What are people doing for Field Day this year?


Staying home. The local club has talked the talk two years running,
telling my wife and others that they were welcome to operate, but
failed to walk the walk and actually let them operate when they asked
to. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." The
crowning glory was the club president and the repeater trustee jumping
her at a meeting because she dared to bring up the problems with the
repeater during bad weather, precisely when the repeater is most
needed. I've been on the club repeater since then only to run my
weekly net, and that'll die when my dues and membership expire.

I'll be catching up on house maintenance. Y'all have fun.

This will undoubtedly be past tense by the time most people read this but I
worked Field Day from home BUT I did so with a twist.

What I did was take my webcam and point it at the display of my ICOM IC-706
MKII-G and put that out on the Internet (Complete with audio) as I worked
mainly 2 meter SSB (My only antenna was a 2m/440 Mhz. vertical mag mount
which was mounted outside on the patio railing and up 7 floors).

On Saturday Night, I also put together a little video describing what Ham
Radio is and some of the many facets of the hobby (I also made sure to
mention Field Day and its purpose too :) ). I plan to make this a streaming
video in Windows Media format and made available via video podcast as well.

On Saturday, I was in the chat room on my website, but everyone who logged
into the chat room just simply came and went, so I didn't even bother
logging on today.

From what I hear, there was LOTS of 6 meter activity, but alas, it would be

just my luck to NOT have a suitable antenna (Not even a 5/8 2 meter vertical
mag mount antenna) to work any of the stations on the band. :(

Oh well. There's always next year....

Who knows, I might even have something for 10 meters next year too.

Oh well....What I wished would've & could've been.....

Cheers & 73 :D

Pat Cook, KB0OXD
Denver, Colorado
WEBSITE -
http://www.qsl.net/kb0oxd/
**NEW VIDEO SECTION - http://www.qsl.net/kb0oxd/cybershacktv/




Pat Cook June 24th 07 08:44 PM

Field Day?
 
Hi everyone:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
6...
It's always a little interesting trying to talk the local pizza places
into delivering to a field outside of town. Sometimes they do, and
sometimes they won't.


Well that's because of (And in response to) what happened to that one pizza
delivery guy who wound up taking part in a bank robbery with a bomb strapped
to him. Remember that?

I wonder if they caught the mastermind moron responsible
for that...

Of course Field Day isn't for everyone.


Hey...Not all of us are in love with the gnats ya know! :) *LOL!*

Cheers & 73 :D

Pat Cook, KB0OXD
Denver, Colorado
WEBSITE - http://www.qsl.net/kb0oxd/
**NEW VIDEO SECTION - http://www.qsl.net/kb0oxd/cybershacktv/



Pat Cook June 24th 07 08:45 PM

Field Day?
 
Hi everyone:
"Bryan" wrote in message
...
The logging PC will have it's own homebrew DC-DC boost converter.


Out of curiosity (Yes I know what it does to cats :) *LOL!*), why not just
simply use A LAPTOP? You can always replace the batteries in a laptop.

Again....Just out of curiosity (At the risk of feline death I might add :)
*LOL!*)

Cheers & 73 :D

Pat Cook, KB0OXD
Denver, Colorado
WEBSITE - http://www.qsl.net/kb0oxd/
**NEW VIDEO SECTION - http://www.qsl.net/kb0oxd/cybershacktv/



[email protected] June 24th 07 09:50 PM

Field Day?
 
On Jun 24, 3:45?pm, "Pat Cook" wrote:

The logging PC will have it's own homebrew DC-DC
boost converter.


Out of curiosity
why not just
simply use A LAPTOP? You can always replace the
batteries in a laptop.


I think they are using a laptop, because I don't know any desktops
that run on 12 volts DC (though there are probably some). It sounds to
me like what they did was to use a laptop with a charging cord meant
to go into an auto accessory power socket. That way, the primary power
comes from the 12 volt power system they need for the rig, and the
laptop's internal battery is used for backup in case there is some
sort of power interruption.

FD lasts more than 24 hours, and I don't know any laptops whose
batteries will run that long. Using external power means no
interruptions.

73 de Jim, N2EY

just got back from FD


Mike Coslo June 25th 07 03:00 AM

Field Day?
 
wrote in news:1182718200.618480.68940
@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

I think they are using a laptop, because I don't know any desktops
that run on 12 volts DC (though there are probably some). It sounds to
me like what they did was to use a laptop with a charging cord meant
to go into an auto accessory power socket. That way, the primary power
comes from the 12 volt power system they need for the rig, and the
laptop's internal battery is used for backup in case there is some
sort of power interruption.

FD lasts more than 24 hours, and I don't know any laptops whose
batteries will run that long. Using external power means no
interruptions.


An awful lot of laptops run on 18 Volts DC. My IBM's Dells, snd most
recently, a Toshiba. (actually it is 19 Volts) If you aren't going to run
them off 120 volts and their own power supply, you'll need to run a DC to
DC p.s.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


Jerseyj June 25th 07 03:24 AM

Field Day?
 
Hi all,
Hope you all had a great FD, I certainly did. I started out by helping
with setup, and then also worked as a VE in a test session we began at
10AM, had one person go from no license to Extra in that one session!
The test session really worked out well and we're eager to do that again
next year. Got some new club members out of it too *smile*.

I came back at 8pm (an hour earlier than scheduled) with the unlicensed
YL who once more worked as my logger (though I had to bribe her with
some ice cream on the way *smile) and we had a great time, including
contacting W1AW! We also enjoyed contacting many VE3 sations as my wife
is Canadian/American.

We headed home for the night and on the spur of the moment I decided to
head back and help out, so I ended up logging for 3 more hours then made
the last 2 contacts of the event.

All in all , it was a great event for all (with much better weather than
last year when I was working the righ with rain water running down my
back from a hole in the tent...what a deluge).

Wonder if I worked any of you ? We were using our club call of W3QBD, in
Delaware.

Jerry


Bryan June 25th 07 09:58 AM

Field Day?
 
Mike Coslo wrote:
N2EY wrote:

I think they are using a laptop, because I don't know any desktops
that run on 12 volts DC (though there are probably some). It sounds to
me like what they did was to use a laptop with a charging cord meant
to go into an auto accessory power socket. That way, the primary power
comes from the 12 volt power system they need for the rig, and the
laptop's internal battery is used for backup in case there is some
sort of power interruption.

FD lasts more than 24 hours, and I don't know any laptops whose
batteries will run that long. Using external power means no
interruptions.


An awful lot of laptops run on 18 Volts DC. My IBM's Dells, snd most
recently, a Toshiba. (actually it is 19 Volts) If you aren't going to run
them off 120 volts and their own power supply, you'll need to run a DC to
DC p.s.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


I so do dislike quoting myself but, "The logging PC will have it's own
homebrew DC-DC boost converter."
The laptop PC's AC power supply produces 16VDC @ 4A. The DC-DC boost
converter produces regulated 16VDC @ 4.5A. The boost converter for the rig
similarly produces 14VDC @ 25A. Both units are dead quiet in terms of EMI,
and aren't upset in the presence of RF.
Bryan WA7PRC



Bryan June 25th 07 09:59 AM

Field Day?
 
Pat Cook wrote:
Hi everyone:
Bryan wrote:
The logging PC will have it's own homebrew DC-DC boost converter.


Out of curiosity (Yes I know what it does to cats :) *LOL!*), why not just
simply use A LAPTOP? You can always replace the batteries in a laptop.

Again....Just out of curiosity (At the risk of feline death I might add :)
*LOL!*)

Cheers & 73 :D

Pat Cook, KB0OXD
Denver, Colorado


We *did* use a laptop. The batteries won't run 24 hrs continuously w/o
being changed which, in the middle of a pileup, you don't want to have to
do. On the other hand, 4 x 80 Ah 12V lead-acid batteries in parallel can
more than handle the load of a 100W HF xcvr + the laptop's meager power
requirement. We used this unit in Tent2, with zero issues. Tent1 used
AC-powered equipment and they had to keep an eye on the generator fuel
level... while listening to the drone of the engine.
Bryan WA7PRC



[email protected] June 26th 07 02:25 AM

Field Day?
 
On Jun 22, 10:52?pm, wrote:

This year I'll be going out with a club group, running 3A. This FD is
part readiness-exercise, part training, part publicity, part contest,
and part social event. The first 100 points are already in the log.


Results of the above operation:

We had 3 HF stations on the air, and one VHF/UHF. HF rigs were all
100-watt-class middle-of-the-line transceivers, with various dipole
antennas (OCF and G5RVs). N3FJP computer logging with networked
computers at each setup.

We made 470 CW and 342 'phone QSOs, with just one HF station on CW vs.
two HF and one VHF/UHF on 'phone. Bonus points for 100% emergency
power, "natural" power, W1AW message, SM message, information table,
public location, publicity, and electronic log submittal.

Great wx, lots of new and old friends, good food and lots of good
times. Some folks dropped by for a few minutes, some were there
beginning to end, and everything in between. Setup and takedown were
done in record time due to good planning and experience.

Only 368 days till the next one!

73 de Jim, N2EY


KØHB June 26th 07 04:13 AM

Field Day?
 
On Jun 19, 2:50 am, wrote:
Folks,

What are people doing for Field Day this year?

73 de Jim, N2EY


K0HB/K0CKB operated diesel power for about 4 hours in the coach at the
lake..... no contest...... no readiness..... no flies or
bats........ cool 807's during....... walleye dinner after.....
purists hate us...... too bad for them...........

K0HB 1E MN

472 CW contacts
2 phone contacts

73, de Hans, K0HB






Bryan June 26th 07 04:36 AM

Field Day?
 
Jim N2EY wrote:

This year I'll be going out with a club group, running 3A. This FD is
part readiness-exercise, part training, part publicity, part contest,
and part social event. The first 100 points are already in the log.


Results of the above operation:

We had 3 HF stations on the air, and one VHF/UHF. HF rigs were all
100-watt-class middle-of-the-line transceivers, with various dipole
antennas (OCF and G5RVs). N3FJP computer logging with networked
computers at each setup.

We made 470 CW and 342 'phone QSOs, with just one HF station on CW vs.
two HF and one VHF/UHF on 'phone. Bonus points for 100% emergency
power, "natural" power, W1AW message, SM message, information table,
public location, publicity, and electronic log submittal.

Great wx, lots of new and old friends, good food and lots of good
times. Some folks dropped by for a few minutes, some were there
beginning to end, and everything in between. Setup and takedown were
done in record time due to good planning and experience.

Only 368 days till the next one!

73 de Jim, N2EY


Considering the poor solar activity, that sounds pretty good! Though I
haven't seen the exact tally for the Machias Radio Group (W7MRG) running 2A
+ VHF, I think we'll come pretty close to your's.

We had CW & fone tents (I stayed w/ the fone tent). The CW guys forgot to
bring the 80m antenna and had to make-do w/ the 40m antenna + tuner. Still,
they had just over 400 Qs. The fone tally was 360 Qs. We also had the
usual bonus points... emergency power, public location, info table,
publicity, and W1AW message.

We had some snafus w/ setup of the fone antennas so, we weren't operational
until late Friday night. An interfacing problem w/ the intended DVK made us
switch to Plan B. I'm glad it worked... we didn't have a Plan C! The wx
here in the Pacific "Northwet" cooperated, for the most part. The rain
didn't happen until we had the tents up, and then abated until *after* we
were packed up for the drive home. :))

Vy 73,
Bryan WA7PRC



[email protected] June 26th 07 06:36 AM

Field Day?
 
Our 1B WV K8MN operation (K8MN + N8NN) used a single HF transceiver
with TR for logging on a laptop computer. Our primary antenna was a
200' flattop which varied in height--60 feet at one end and about 40
feet at the other. It was fed with ladder line through a Johnson
Matchbox. Our bonus points were for the information table, publicity,
local emergency personnel visit,
SM message, emergency power and electronic submittal.

We made 1070 FD QSOs (957 on CW) for 2027 points.

Dave K8MN


[email protected] June 26th 07 10:39 PM

Field Day?
 
On Jun 25, 11:13 pm, KØHB wrote:
On Jun 19, 2:50 am, wrote:

Folks,


What are people doing for Field Day this year?


73 de Jim, N2EY


K0HB/K0CKB operated diesel power for about 4 hours in the coach at the
lake..... no contest...... no readiness..... no flies or
bats........ cool 807's during....... walleye dinner after.....
purists hate us...... too bad for them...........


Well, Hans, I'm about as much of a "Field Day purist" as you'll ever
run into,
but I see nothing to hate.

Coupla hams went out in the field, followed all the applicable rules,
operated using emergency power, made a bunch of QSOs, had a lot of
fun.

Sounds like a 'pure' FD operation to me.

K0HB 1E MN


472 CW contacts
2 phone contacts


73 de Jim, N2EY



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