|
Linux for Hams
In finding the cure for Vista, I've installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop.
It is turning out to be a tremendous OS, and it addresses one of my major complaints of most flavors of Linux - that being whenever you try to install a program, it takes you back to 1985 computing. Any Linux lovin' hams here that have any advice or suggestions on good programs, such as logging, propagation or the other apps we like to have? - 73 de Mike N3LI - |
Linux for Hams
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... In finding the cure for Vista, I've installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop. It is turning out to be a tremendous OS, and it addresses one of my major complaints of most flavors of Linux - that being whenever you try to install a program, it takes you back to 1985 computing. Any Linux lovin' hams here that have any advice or suggestions on good programs, such as logging, propagation or the other apps we like to have? - 73 de Mike N3LI - Try AC6V's site Linux For Hams URL: http://ac6v.com/software.htm#LIN 73 Lamont |
Linux for Hams
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... In finding the cure for Vista, I've installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop. It is turning out to be a tremendous OS, and it addresses one of my major complaints of most flavors of Linux - that being whenever you try to install a program, it takes you back to 1985 computing. Any Linux lovin' hams here that have any advice or suggestions on good programs, such as logging, propagation or the other apps we like to have? - 73 de Mike N3LI - Also see Logging prograns use CNTRL F - Search for Linux http://ac6v.com/logging.htm Lamont |
Linux for Hams
Michael Coslo wrote:
In finding the cure for Vista, I've installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop. It is turning out to be a tremendous OS, and it addresses one of my major complaints of most flavors of Linux - that being whenever you try to install a program, it takes you back to 1985 computing. Any Linux lovin' hams here that have any advice or suggestions on good programs, such as logging, propagation or the other apps we like to have? The "Linux Hamradio Applications and Utilities Homepage" at http://radio.linux.org.au/ is probably the most comprehensive directory of Linux ham software. It's actively maintained and contains over 400 different software packages, sorted by categories like "logging", "morse", ... I'm using Linux (and FreeBSD) for all my ham radio needs, which is mainly logging (YFKlog for normal QSOs, YFKtest for contests) and (very rarely) some digital modes (gmfsk, fldigi). For some eyecandy, I am using xplanet to show me a world grayline map on my desktop background, with markers for all DXCCs (colour indicating cfmed/worked/needed). Of course, it's automatically generated by my logging software. Furthermore I have a small script running on my workstation here which automatically check for new mail and send me the subject line and sender in morse code if something arrives. There are very many little neat things you can do in an Linux/Unix environment with a short Perl/Python/Shell script, which is almost impossible under Windows. I started using Linux as my main OS about 4 years ago. Since then, a lot has changed, both with Linux in general as an operating system becoming more and more available for the masses, but also in availability of decent ham radio applications. And I am a little proud that I made my own, small contributions to this. By making my own software available under a free license and by submitting bug reports, patches and suggestions to the numerous authors of excellent Linux ham radio software. 73, -- Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/ |
Linux for Hams
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... In finding the cure for Vista, I've installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop. It is turning out to be a tremendous OS, and it addresses one of my major complaints of most flavors of Linux - that being whenever you try to install a program, it takes you back to 1985 computing. I'm afraid you will find that when you start installng many ham radio apps, you are still back to 1985. One of the reasons I'm kind of a fan of Fedora is that a number of ham related apps are part of the distro, and so install easily like those on Ubuntu. Those apps, tho, aren't your loggers and such, they are more the design apps that I happen to be interested in. It doesn't have Ubuntu's eye candy, though, and unfortunately, Fedora is intended to be the "bleeding edge" distro, so about as soon as you get it installed it goes out of support. On the other hand, after many attempts, they have heavy-duty security that is pretty painless. It took them quite a few releases to get there tho, and the other distros haven't even started down the path yet. ... |
Linux for Hams
xpyttl wrote:
Fedora is intended to be the "bleeding edge" distro, so about as soon as you get it installed it goes out of support. On the other hand, after many attempts, they have heavy-duty security that is pretty painless. It took them quite a few releases to get there tho, and the other distros haven't even started down the path yet. I disagree: any Linux distro can be made secure, and just because Redhat has chosen "secure" defaults in Fedora doesn't mean that other distros can't be set for security. Security is always a compromise between useability and effectiveness, and while Ubuntu may have chosen to set less secure defaults to obtain easier installation (or networking, or... ), the _capability_ to set them is always there for anyone to use, not only in Ubuntu but in all the Linux distributions. -- Bill Horne (Remove QRM from my address for direct replies.) |
Linux for Hams
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... In finding the cure for Vista, I've installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop. Its about the only current operating system that will work properly on a laptop. Vista requires too much memory to work properly on a laptop. We use Linux on all our business laptops now. I would recommend trying the K desktop (distributed as "Kubuntu") because the K programs can handle DVD's and other things more easily. You can run K and Gnome and switch between them. |
Linux for Hams
"Bill Horne" wrote in message
. .. xpyttl wrote: I disagree: any Linux distro can be made secure, and just because Redhat has chosen "secure" defaults in Fedora doesn't mean that other distros can't be set for security. I think you miss the point. Fedora/Red Hat have chosen to use a new security model called SELinux that is far more secure than the old Linux UID based model, but a LOT harder to make work without really getting in the way. Most of the other distros have this model available, but getting it configured so it isn't a major PITA is a pretty big deal. The system is a lot more granular than the legacy system, which means, among other things, that an attacker gaining root privileges still has very limited access to the system. With the old system, any sort of privilege escalation and its game over. That granularity means that there are a lot more things to twiddle, and a lot of thinking about what gets in the way and what doesn't. Fedora bit the bullet back in FC3 (seems like ages ago), and finally by FC6 it had reached the point where it could be fully turned on and not be constantly getting in the way. The thing about SELinux is that the compromise between useability and effectiveness isn't quite as stark as it is with the old UID system. You can have the system configured to be quite restrictive, and never notice that those restrictions are there. Getting all the policies set that way is no small project, however. Of course you could turn it on with Ubuntu, but you would spend months, if not years, getting it configured so it actually provided protection while not raising it's ugly head every time you tried to do something. Red Hat has spent three or four years sorting out all those settings, and the default settings for Fedora are now pretty good. ... |
Linux for Hams
xpyttl wrote:
It doesn't have Ubuntu's eye candy, though, and unfortunately, Fedora is intended to be the "bleeding edge" distro, so about as soon as you get it installed it goes out of support. On the other hand, after many attempts, they have heavy-duty security that is pretty painless. It took them quite a few releases to get there tho, and the other distros haven't even started down the path yet. Late flash - I found some other Ubuntu repository, and theere are a lot of Ham Radio Apps there. I've installed a few, and so far so good. |
Linux for Hams
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:17:33 -0500, Gordon Hudson wrote:
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... In finding the cure for Vista, I've installed Ubuntu Linux on my laptop. Its about the only current operating system that will work properly on a laptop. Vista requires too much memory to work properly on a laptop. We use Linux on all our business laptops now. I must agree. My new laptop is no slouch, but at times I felt that I was operating with a 286 machine under Vista. My average time from boot to actually doing something was as much as 30 minutes, as all the programs accessed the web, looking for updates, and many of them crashed. At least half the time, I have to hard kill the machine to turn it off. This is the fifth laptop I've tried with Vista. None have actually worked. During Field day this year, we had tried to use N3FJP's software for networked logging with Vista. It failed most spectacularly (Vista failed, the logging software itself works wonderfully on XP machines. Apparently Vista occasionally "loses" an IP address, and the cure is to reboot. Not a very good situation in the middle of a multi station logging effort. My laptop has performed flawlessly since the OS change. The Ubuntu repositories have a lot of apps, There are Ham specific ones, such as loggers, digital mode software (linux even has AMTOR/PACTOR transmitting software) there are antenna modeling programs, even a Smith chart program. Lots of developer apps too. There are quite a few electronic apps, such as transmission line calculators, and a whole lot of other stuff that I am just finding out about. More Hams need to check it out - I think the whole Operating system is in line with "Ham Spirit". I would recommend trying the K desktop (distributed as "Kubuntu") because the K programs can handle DVD's and other things more easily. You can run K and Gnome and switch between them. I'll probably give that a try -- -73 de Mike N3LI - |
Linux for Hams
Mike Coslo wrote:
The Ubuntu repositories have a lot of apps, There are Ham specific ones, such as loggers, digital mode software (linux even has AMTOR/PACTOR transmitting software) there are antenna modeling programs, even a Smith chart program. Lots of developer apps too. There are quite a few electronic apps, such as transmission line calculators, and a whole lot of other stuff that I am just finding out about. More Hams need to check it out - I think the whole Operating system is in line with "Ham Spirit". Well I don't really care for Ubuntu myself, but I can see where folks would like it. Personally I dislike it because it goes to great lengths to isolate you from the Unix stuff, most notable is that you cannot log into the "root" account from the GUI. Of course that's not usually a good idea, but there are times when it just makes sense to be "root" on a box. For the folks that don't want to care about the Unix stuff, Ubuntu does a good job of hiding a lot of that. It also has a "run from the CD" mode that's kind of nice. You can run it without installing anything and see what you think. If you don't like it, just take the CD out. Where do you find the HAM stuff though? I've got a Ubuntu install that I play with and I'd like to see what's built for it. -= bob =- (AKA KC4UAI) |
Linux for Hams
"Kc4uai" wrote in message news:cSsZi.2901$CI1.360@trnddc03... It also has a "run from the CD" mode that's kind of nice. You can run it without installing anything and see what you think. If you don't like it, just take the CD out. The Fedora project just announced a "spin" of Fedora called "Fedora Electronic Lab". This is a live CD loaded up with electronics stuff. Fedora includes a set of LiveCD tools to encourage custom spins. So far no ham app spin, tho. The problem with these Live CDs is that you still need to have a bit of Linux savvy if you want to use the Live CD and save some data. It isn't hard, but if you are using the Live CD to try out some Linux distro that can be a pretty big barrier to fully enjoying it. ... |
Linux for Hams
Kc4uai wrote:
For the folks that don't want to care about the Unix stuff, Ubuntu does a good job of hiding a lot of that. It also has a "run from the CD" mode that's kind of nice. You can run it without installing anything and see what you think. If you don't like it, just take the CD out. Where do you find the HAM stuff though? I've got a Ubuntu install that I play with and I'd like to see what's built for it. Under Symantec, you can open up some extra repositories. I think theere is one more standard Ubuntu repository, and a "universal" one. There are both finished apps and various engines for developers. There are a couple more repositories that have proprietary drives also. - 73 de Mike N3LI - |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:43 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
RadioBanter.com