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Bakb0ne August 22nd 06 03:19 AM

why not deal with the eal issue
 

an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?

wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it


Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)


an old friend August 22nd 06 03:56 AM

why not deal with the real issue
 

Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?

wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it


Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)

well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now


Bakb0ne August 22nd 06 04:22 AM

why not deal with the real issue
 

an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?
wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it


Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)

well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now


What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter?

The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the
general way of applying for it?

Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant..


an old friend August 22nd 06 04:26 AM

why not deal with the real issue
 

Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?
wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it

Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)

well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now


What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter?

The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the
general way of applying for it?

Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant..

having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those
with bad attiudes than a code test

not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the
license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free
(the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks
any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so
this might escape you I should have been clearer

nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the
flamers and trolls had driven them off


K4YZ August 22nd 06 07:53 AM

why not deal with the eal issue WHAT'S AN "EAL" ISSUE, FATBOY?
 

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:44:48 GMT, Slow Code wrote:


Why do we want to let in people that don't want to be hams?


red herring


So?

You're a white elephant.

why are we exclding people able to be ham nd that want to for no
reason at all


What's this "we" business, Fatboy?

And WHO is being "excluded"...?!?

I know quite a few folks with various "disabilities", some even
true deafness, that have coded Amateur licneses.

That you don't is only evidence of your unwillingness to put forth
the effort to get one.

Steve, K4YZ


Bakb0ne August 23rd 06 03:34 AM

why not deal with the real issue
 

an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?
wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it

Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything....

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)
well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now


What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter?

The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the
general way of applying for it?

Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant..

having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those
with bad attiudes than a code test

not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the
license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free
(the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks
any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so
this might escape you I should have been clearer

nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the
flamers and trolls had driven them off


Yep, im british.

I can see your point about the FCC complaints, lack of funding is the
usual reason for them not to bother to go after ham violators. If they
charged users then they would be able to use that money to go after the
retards who clog todays airwaves...

And the flamers/trolls havent driven us all off, we just go into hiding
until we see something of interest, and just ignore the rest...


an Old friend August 23rd 06 03:40 AM

why not deal with the real issue
 

Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?
wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it

Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)
well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now

What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter?

The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the
general way of applying for it?

Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant..

having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those
with bad attiudes than a code test

not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the
license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free
(the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks
any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so
this might escape you I should have been clearer

nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the
flamers and trolls had driven them off


Yep, im british.

I can see your point about the FCC complaints, lack of funding is the
usual reason for them not to bother to go after ham violators. If they
charged users then they would be able to use that money to go after the
retards who clog todays airwaves...

And the flamers/trolls havent driven us all off, we just go into hiding
until we see something of interest, and just ignore the rest...

indeed but you can't discuss any changes as I suspect you have ntoiced

and for that matter I have never seen why we have to have all of us
geting our license by the same path

indeed I have always liked an idea with some folks talking a rule and
safety test (and being confined to built equipment) and pay a fee while
others would takerigourous test and no fees


Bakb0ne August 23rd 06 03:46 AM

why not deal with the real issue
 

an Old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Douche Bag wrote:
IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?
wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it

Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)
well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now

What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter?

The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the
general way of applying for it?

Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant..
having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those
with bad attiudes than a code test

not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the
license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free
(the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks
any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so
this might escape you I should have been clearer

nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the
flamers and trolls had driven them off


Yep, im british.

I can see your point about the FCC complaints, lack of funding is the
usual reason for them not to bother to go after ham violators. If they
charged users then they would be able to use that money to go after the
retards who clog todays airwaves...

And the flamers/trolls havent driven us all off, we just go into hiding
until we see something of interest, and just ignore the rest...

indeed but you can't discuss any changes as I suspect you have ntoiced

and for that matter I have never seen why we have to have all of us
geting our license by the same path

indeed I have always liked an idea with some folks talking a rule and
safety test (and being confined to built equipment) and pay a fee while
others would takerigourous test and no fees


So basically ur saying that you should be able to either

1. Pay for your license and Take a beginner test (to prove your
competent)
or
2. Take a Intermediate Test and get free license after passing

If this is what you mean, then i can see your logic and i would fully
support a system like this...

Only problem is that just like Slow Code and the other trolls who try
to change the Ham world, we wouldnt be able to do anything either, its
down to the corporations, not us little people...


K4YZ August 23rd 06 07:10 AM

Uhhhhhhhh...Morkie, Could We PLEASE Do This In Englsih?
 

wrote:
On 22 Aug 2006 19:46:56 -0700, "Bakb0ne" wrote:
an Old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:


indeed I have always liked an idea with some folks talking a rule and
safety test (and being confined to built equipment) and pay a fee while
others would takerigourous test and no fees


So basically ur saying that you should be able to either

1. Pay for your license and Take a beginner test (to prove your
competent)
or
2. Take a Intermediate Test and get free license after passing

If this is what you mean, then i can see your logic and i would fully
support a system like this...


basicaly yes


Sure...Why not...

Let's just throw out the whole concept of really LEARNING...But of
course this is the course that the Amateur Radio Service has been going
since Bash bashed it to death.

I still say he should be dragged behind a jeep over a rocky road.

Only problem is that just like Slow Code and the other trolls who try
to change the Ham world, we wouldnt be able to do anything either, its
down to the corporations, not us little people...


well maybe I am naive but if Ham could get it together to support
something different that was not hard to run (from the FCC's point of
view) I suspect we would get it


English...The primary language of this forum is E N G L I S H!

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ August 23rd 06 07:45 AM

Uhhhhhhhh...Morkie, Could We PLEASE Do This In English?
 
wrote:
On 22 Aug 2006 19:46:56 -0700, "Bakb0ne" wrote:
an Old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Bakb0ne wrote:


indeed I have always liked an idea with some folks talking a rule and
safety test (and being confined to built equipment) and pay a fee while
others would takerigourous test and no fees


So basically ur saying that you should be able to either


1. Pay for your license and Take a beginner test (to prove your
competent)
or
2. Take a Intermediate Test and get free license after passing


If this is what you mean, then i can see your logic and i would fully
support a system like this...


basicaly yes


Sure...Why not...

Let's just throw out the whole concept of really LEARNING...But of

course this is the course that the Amateur Radio Service has been going

since Bash bashed it to death.

I still say he should be dragged behind a jeep over a rocky road.

Only problem is that just like Slow Code and the other trolls who try
to change the Ham world, we wouldnt be able to do anything either, its
down to the corporations, not us little people...


well maybe I am naive but if Ham could get it together to support
something different that was not hard to run (from the FCC's point of
view) I suspect we would get it


English...The primary language of this forum is E N G L I S H!

Steve, K4YZ



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