SR wrote in :

Hello I am a new ham and i have a friend in
Parkersburg, West Virginia. He has a 2 meter radio and echolink.

I do not have echolink.

Does anyone know of a repeater close to where I am, that I
would be able to hit with my 2 meter radio Radio Shack HTX 202 144-148
MHZ.

I live in Queens County NY.

Any information or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

73

Steven


I'd check with people on repeaters you can hear and ask them. Someone
should know unless they're also clueless no-coders. If all else fails,
you can take your HTX 202 back to Radio Shack and exchange blank stares
with the clerk.

SC

"Slow Code" wrote in message
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SR wrote in :
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I'd check with people on repeaters you can hear and ask them. Someone
should know unless they're also clueless no-coders.
snip
SC

Usually the no-code techs have a better idea as to how echolink and IRLP
work than most of the old-timers, because it is the only way that they can
access "long distance" radio. Most of the old-timers don't consider it to
be "real" radio and as such, are often stuck in their ways and slow to
accept the new form of communication on the service.
It is similar to many of the other forms that were incorporated into amateur
radio and were slow to be accepted, such as SSB, SSTV, even ATV. I don't
think any of these are any less ham radio than CW is ham radio.

Pat Stevens wrote:

"Slow Code" wrote in message
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SR wrote in :
snip
I'd check with people on repeaters you can hear and ask them. Someone
should know unless they're also clueless no-coders.
snip
SC

Usually the no-code techs have a better idea as to how echolink and IRLP
work than most of the old-timers, because it is the only way that they can
access "long distance" radio. Most of the old-timers don't consider it to
be "real" radio and as such..

That's because it's not 'real radio'..

Get a grip and get a clue.

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Pat Stevens wrote:
snip
Usually the no-code techs have a better idea as to how echolink and IRLP
work than most of the old-timers, because it is the only way that they
can
access "long distance" radio. Most of the old-timers don't consider it
to
be "real" radio and as such..
It is similar to many of the other forms that were incorporated into
amateur
radio and were slow to be accepted, such as SSB, SSTV, even ATV. I don't
think any of these are any less ham radio than CW is ham radio.

That's because it's not 'real radio'..

Get a grip and get a clue.


Well, as far as I know, SSB, SSTV, even ATV, along with IRLP and even
echolink as long as you are using a radio at one of the ends of it during a
conversation, would all be considered "real radio."
Talk about getting a grip and getting a clue. That isn't even an arguement.
At least try to make a point and back your claim.

Echolink is communication on the internet. Millions of people do that
daily, with no license needed.

You can do the same thing with a cellphone.


There is nothing wrong with Echolink, but it is silly and dishonest to call
it communicating by radio, which is what hams do.

When a person says he "worked" Germany on Echolink, he is either mistaken
or dishonest. What he has "worked" is his local telephone connection,
usually a distance of about five miles. It is hard for me to believe that
this person could really believe that he "worked" Germany. If I pick up
my cellphone and call Germany, can I get a QSL card for it, and get ARRL
credit ??? Huh ??

It utterly amazes me that a person would study for a ham exam, only to use
Echolink, when you can do the very same thing with any computer or
telephone. There is no ham license or ham equipment needed to talk on the
phone or on the computer. Ever heard of ICQ and other chat programs ?
Ever heard of Voice Over Internet ?

Lots of folks have fun on Echolink. For that reason, I truly think it is
Great !!! Just don't pretend that it is ham radio when the world knows
that it isn't.


Well, that's my two cents worth. See ya on the radio waves !!


73 de Jim K4PYT

"James" wrote in message
. ..
Echolink is communication on the internet. Millions of people do that
daily, with no license needed.

You can do the same thing with a cellphone.


There is nothing wrong with Echolink, but it is silly and dishonest to
call
it communicating by radio, which is what hams do.

When a person says he "worked" Germany on Echolink, he is either
mistaken
or dishonest. What he has "worked" is his local telephone connection,
usually a distance of about five miles. It is hard for me to believe
that
this person could really believe that he "worked" Germany. If I pick
up
my cellphone and call Germany, can I get a QSL card for it, and get ARRL
credit ??? Huh ??

It utterly amazes me that a person would study for a ham exam, only to use
Echolink, when you can do the very same thing with any computer or
telephone. There is no ham license or ham equipment needed to talk on the
phone or on the computer. Ever heard of ICQ and other chat programs ?
Ever heard of Voice Over Internet ?

Lots of folks have fun on Echolink. For that reason, I truly think it is
Great !!! Just don't pretend that it is ham radio when the world knows
that it isn't.


Well, that's my two cents worth. See ya on the radio waves !!


73 de Jim K4PYT


I agree that echolink, on its own isn't radio, but that is why I added that
at least on one of the ends should be connected by radio. Preferably, your
end would be at least using the radio, or what is the purpose of getting a
radio license.
As for just calling someone in Germany, I can't say that I would know too
many people that I could just randomly call and would (a) be willing to talk
to me and (b) that I would be able to understand, since I don't know German.
At least, with ham radio you have a start, since you usually can hear them
before you start talking to them. I have never used echolink to
communicate, so I am not exactly sure how that is kept straight on there,
though.
Also, if I were to talk to someone in Germany, by echolink or IRLP, I would
state it as that and not that I "worked" them. I agree that there is much
more to be said for working a station by HF, than when someone is doing by
way of the Internet. But it is a form of communication that is available to
hams and should be exploited as much as possible, so that it can be used in
any times of need.
I am sure that probably locally during Katrina, all Internet was out, but if
someone was on the fringe of the outage and could reach a repeater that was
linked to IRLP or echolink, then he would be able to communicate anywhere
and get messages into out of the area by that means. Not quite as good as
HF, but if you don't have the privileges, then it is a start.

James wrote:
Echolink is communication on the internet. Millions of people do that
daily, with no license needed.

You can do the same thing with a cellphone.


There is nothing wrong with Echolink, but it is silly and dishonest to call
it communicating by radio, which is what hams do.

When a person says he "worked" Germany on Echolink, he is either mistaken
or dishonest. What he has "worked" is his local telephone connection,
usually a distance of about five miles. It is hard for me to believe that
this person could really believe that he "worked" Germany. If I pick up
my cellphone and call Germany, can I get a QSL card for it, and get ARRL
credit ??? Huh ??

It utterly amazes me that a person would study for a ham exam, only to use
Echolink, when you can do the very same thing with any computer or
telephone. There is no ham license or ham equipment needed to talk on the
phone or on the computer. Ever heard of ICQ and other chat programs ?
Ever heard of Voice Over Internet ?

Lots of folks have fun on Echolink. For that reason, I truly think it is
Great !!! Just don't pretend that it is ham radio when the world knows
that it isn't.


Well, that's my two cents worth. See ya on the radio waves !!


73 de Jim K4PYT


Actually, you DO have to have a license to use Echolink. It won't
activate without a confirmed callsign. Because Echolink connects to
radio equipment that can transmit over amateur frequencies, you are
required to be a licensed amateur to use it. In that way, it differs
tremendously from standard Internet communication software.

As for whether or not it's "real radio," by using my 440 HT, I've called
one of our local repeaters that connects to Echolink. Via that link, I
spoke with someone in Australia who was using a mobile radio to
communicate with a local Echolink node in his area. Neither of us was
directly using a computer yet Echolink allowed two licensed hams to
communicate around the world.

To say that using Echolink like this isn't real radio is like saying
that using repeaters isn't real radio.

But this doesn't mean that Echolink will or should ever replace standard
ham radio. I also see the value of continuing to require code testing
in order to get greater privileges.

And those are my two cents.

Jim
KI4OCC/AG
(Yep, I passed my code test this weekend!)

"Pat Stevens" wrote in
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"Slow Code" wrote in message
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SR wrote in
:
snip
I'd check with people on repeaters you can hear and ask them. Someone
should know unless they're also clueless no-coders.
snip
SC

Usually the no-code techs have a better idea as to how echolink and IRLP
work than most of the old-timers, because it is the only way that they
can access "long distance" radio. Most of the old-timers don't consider
it to be "real" radio and as such, are often stuck in their ways and
slow to accept the new form of communication on the service.


Echolink isn't real radio, it's Retard DX.

"No internet = The band ain't open." ROFL


It is similar to many of the other forms that were incorporated into
amateur radio and were slow to be accepted, such as SSB, SSTV, even ATV.
I don't think any of these are any less ham radio than CW is ham radio.


RTTY, SSTV, CW, AMTOR, PSK, PACKET, ATV, etc. are all real. No
internet required.

SC