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"John Smith I" wrote in message
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Len:

I believe that they MUST APPLY to have that copyright lengthened, it does
not automatically occur (and, on or before a certain day the work will
expire copyright)--you'd be surprised how many works still fail that.
Although, some publishing houses are set up to "automatically apply", even
though they had no interest in the work they end up gaining possession of
the copyright!

Individuals/corps make a living though such "questionable practices."

Regards,
JS

Under the current laws there is no renewal. The max copyright length
applies automatically. The renewal requirement was dropped a long time ago.
Anything that fell out of copyright (i.e. was not renewed) before that
change occurred went into the public domain and stayed there (there are a
few exceptions but it gets too complicated). Those that were still under
copyright at the time of the change had their copyrights automatically
extended to the max length.

Dee, N8UZE

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On Jan 28, 5:32�pm, robert casey wrote:

(N2EY wrote):

Then in 1965 the growth suddenly slowed to a trickle. In the next
decade or so, the
numbers hovered around 250,000, with some years a little up and some a
little
down. That was the year the Conditional distance went from 75 miles to
175 miles,
and the FCC added enough exam points so that almost all of CONUS was
covered.

Do you think that change might have affected growth?

Wasn't that about the time "incentive licensing" kicked in? *

Nope.

The Conditional distance changed from 75 to 175 miles on April 15,
1965. The changes known as "incentive licensing" did not become
effective until November 22, 1968 - more than three and a half years
later. The growth stoppage was noted in 1965. So it seems
very unlikely that those changes had any effect.

There were other factors besides the Conditional distance change,
IMHO. For example,
one of the main sources of new hams used to be SWLs and others who
would hear
hams using 'phone on their "shortwave" receivers, and would want to
join the fun. But
by 1964, SSB had become the most popular HF 'phone mode, and SSB was
unintelligible on most SWL receivers.

Another factor was the rise of the "counterculture" among young
people, who had fed the growth of ham radio all through the 1950s. Ham
radio was considered too "square" by many of them, too allied with the
military-industrial complex.

It's said
that hams were less than happy about having to upgrade to get back
frequencies they had the use of before.

Some were unhappy. Others simply took on the challenge and upgraded.
But those changes took place more than 3-1/2 years after the
Conditional distance changed.

And here's the kicker:

The "incentive licensing" restrictions took place in two stages, on
November 22, 1968 and November 22, 1969.

During the 1970s, the number of US hams grew much faster than they did
in the 1960s. By 1979 there were at least 350,000 US hams.

73 de Jim, N2EY

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Dee Flint wrote:

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Under the current laws there is no renewal. The max copyright length
applies automatically. The renewal requirement was dropped a long time ago.
Anything that fell out of copyright (i.e. was not renewed) before that
change occurred went into the public domain and stayed there (there are a
few exceptions but it gets too complicated). Those that were still under
copyright at the time of the change had their copyrights automatically
extended to the max length.

Dee, N8UZE



Dee:

I defer to your knowledge. I have no horse in that race at this time.

Thanks, the data is nice to know though.

Warmest regards,
JS

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On Jan 28, 5:48�pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"John Smith I" wrote in ...





wrote:

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Len:

I believe that they MUST APPLY to have that copyright lengthened, it does
not automatically occur (and, on or before a certain day the work will
expire copyright)--you'd be surprised how many works still fail that.
Although, some publishing houses are set up to "automatically apply", even
though they had no interest in the work they end up gaining possession of
the copyright!

Individuals/corps make a living though such "questionable practices."

Regards,
JSUnder the current laws there is no renewal. *The max copyright length
applies automatically. *The renewal requirement was dropped a long time ago.
Anything that fell out of copyright (i.e. was not renewed) before that
change occurred went into the public domain and stayed there (there are a
few exceptions but it gets too complicated). *Those that were still under
copyright at the time of the change had their copyrights automatically
extended to the max length.

Thank you, Dee...you must have gone to
www.copyrights.gov and looked at Circulars
15A and 15T, yes? :-)

LA

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JS

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Cecil Moore wrote in news:lB6vh.36134$QU1.13970
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Mike Coslo wrote:
But they did, didn't they?

Yes, they did. But their old clunker had thrown a rod the
last trip we made to Houston and they thought it might
happen again. My Mother (God rest her soul) harped at me
about breaking down for the entire six hour round trip.

Sounds like a Catholic family! ;^)



She
wasn't proud that I passed - she just asked if I scored 100.
I wonder how many hams rode to the FCC office in a vehicle
that was manufactured before they were born? :-)

I had a rough time talking my parents into getting me my first
radios. I had to convince them I was serious. Perhaps the same
situation existed for you?

My parents made me pay for my ham rig out of my grocery
store earnings before they would take me to get my license.
That was my test of seriousness. I already had an S-53, a
Globetrotter, and a 40m dipole before I took my Novice exam.
After I received my license, I couldn't get the Globetrotter
to load so I traded it in on a Globe Scout. All the Globetrotter
had for an output was a link coupling wound on the final tank
coil. Thank goodness, the Globe Scout had an adjustable pi-net
output. :-)

I bought my ham gear on time payments and was making 50 cents
an hour at the time working on Saturdays.


Fortunately I got my radio's as presents. I did however, want to join a
band. They bought me a guitar, but after that I was on my own. I bought
a guitar amp and a PA amp, and was making payments while awfully young
too. But then again, I was making between 100 to 200 dollars a week
while in high school in the late 60's early seventies. That was some
serious jack at the time for a kid!


Can you imagine an
out-of-state company trusting a 14 year old teenager on a time
payment contract nowadays with no co-signer?

It is pretty amazing.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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"Bob Brock" wrote in
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On the other hand, we could identify what the critical tasks a ham
operator needs to operate, tell the prospective ham what those tasks
are, give the prospective ham the answers to those tasks (such as a
question and answer pool) and then test on those identified
objectives. After the new ham gets his license to get on the air, we
could provide him with a learning environment to enhance those basic
skills and become a more experienced and adept operator.

Me, I go for plan "B."

Hear, hear!

Q and A pools are here to stay, Amateur radio is no exception. The
moaning and wailing, gnashing of teeth and hand wringing about the good
old days -that my research convinces me *weren't* anyhow - is more
likely just nostalgia for a time that didn't really exist.

I agree.

I can understand that a little bit. Since I got my license, I've
started a love affair with hollow state. I love the heat, the look and
feel, even the smell of that vintage equipment.

But there is too much evidence that those good old days weren't all
that good after all.

I wonder who is going to provide a better learning environment,
people such as myelf - a presumably substandard product of the dumbed
down newfangled system, who only passed a 5wpm code test, and the
"easy" new tests, or one of the old geniuses who comes into the room
with the attitude that the new ham is as likely an idiot as not?

My experience so far is that it's up to the new guy to learn on his own.