Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

I would like to take code exams even if they are
not required by the FCC.

Will VEs continue to conduct code exams and
perhaps offer wpm level certificates?

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

extremely doubtful

I suspect other organizations, like FISTS, may step up to the plate and
offer some type of competency certificates, if you're really interested in
such things.

Despite what you read here, from a few embittered people who feel the code
exam "persecuted" them, most hams on the airwaves really don't care if you
passed a 5, 13, or 20wpm code test or not.

Why? Well, if I CQ in morse code on a frequency at 25wpm, and you respond,
and we have a nice conversation -- does it really matter if you "passed" a
20wpm code test or not?

73
kh6hz

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

"Phil" wrote in message
...
I would like to take code exams even if they are
not required by the FCC.

Will VEs continue to conduct code exams and
perhaps offer wpm level certificates?




Right now you could go for the Certificates of Code Proficiency that the
ARRL sponsors. Check their web site for details. For this award you copy
code off special broadcasts and receive a certificate for 1 minute solid
copy. I believe for this award you do NOT have to be a member. I have the
ones for 10 wpm and 15wpm.

Also they are investigating a program for earning such certificates with
sending administered via live examiners at a session. This is just in the
investigation stage.

Dee, N8UZE

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

"KH6HZ" wrote in message
...
extremely doubtful

I suspect other organizations, like FISTS, may step up to the plate and
offer some type of competency certificates, if you're really interested in
such things.


I hope so. In the meantime, the ARRL already has such a program. Once a
month they transmit code runs and if you copy 1 minute solid you can get a
certificate. They start at 10wpm and go up. I've got the ones for 10 and
15.

Despite what you read here, from a few embittered people who feel the code
exam "persecuted" them, most hams on the airwaves really don't care if you
passed a 5, 13, or 20wpm code test or not.

Why? Well, if I CQ in morse code on a frequency at 25wpm, and you respond,
and we have a nice conversation -- does it really matter if you "passed" a
20wpm code test or not?


Yup, using it is the important part.

Dee, N8UZE

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
. ..

"Phil" wrote in message
...
I would like to take code exams even if they are
not required by the FCC.

Will VEs continue to conduct code exams and
perhaps offer wpm level certificates?




Right now you could go for the Certificates of Code Proficiency that the
ARRL sponsors. Check their web site for details. For this award you copy
code off special broadcasts and receive a certificate for 1 minute solid
copy. I believe for this award you do NOT have to be a member. I have
the ones for 10 wpm and 15wpm.

Also they are investigating a program for earning such certificates with
sending administered via live examiners at a session. This is just in the
investigation stage.

Dee, N8UZE

I think the latter would be an excellent idea. I would vounteer to "VE" such
as session. Also, aren't there certain FCC licenses that require 20 wpm
testing (like Radiotelegraph)? Not sure if this license class is obsolete...

One thing that I would like but many people on the ng would disagree with: A
certain vanity callsign format reserved only for amateurs who posses such a
certificate.

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:45:15 -0000, Phil wrote:

I would like to take code exams even if they are
not required by the FCC.

Will VEs continue to conduct code exams and
perhaps offer wpm level certificates?

no VE's will not

Not true.
I would VE such sessions.


the ARRL has progarms and prehaps others as well

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:29:04 -0500, "Stefan Wolfe"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:45:15 -0000, Phil wrote:

I would like to take code exams even if they are
not required by the FCC.

Will VEs continue to conduct code exams and
perhaps offer wpm level certificates?

no VE's will not

Not true.
I would VE such sessions.

as I understand it would not be at a true VE session and I hope it
gets enforced

Enforced? It's a free country. If 3 certified VE's want to get together and
attest that candidates passed a certain Morse test, giving it the same
credibility as an ARRL administerd FCC VE session, why not? There's no law
against that. The VE's could even charge if they wanted (I would do it for
free).

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:32:46 -0500, "Stefan Wolfe"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:29:04 -0500, "Stefan Wolfe"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:45:15 -0000, Phil wrote:

I would like to take code exams even if they are
not required by the FCC.

Will VEs continue to conduct code exams and
perhaps offer wpm level certificates?

no VE's will not

Not true.
I would VE such sessions.

as I understand it would not be at a true VE session and I hope it
gets enforced

Enforced? It's a free country.
obviosuly you object to it

If 3 certified VE's want to get together and
attest that candidates passed a certain Morse test, giving it the same
credibility as an ARRL administerd FCC VE session, why not?

it should not be coupled with test session

You declare the official VE FCC test session closed. Then open a new ARRL CW
proficiency exam session. No problems there.

There's no law
against that.

today none in 21 days it will be since the test sessions are for
offcail test

The ARRL can have their own official CW test. Also, after the Bush
administration privatizes the FCC, ARRL will most likely control the Part 97
amateur land mobile section anyway :-)) (think about it, kb9rqz ...maybe the
CW proficiency certificate will get you some extra priviledges someday heh
heh ).

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

wrote in message
...
Then open a new ARRL CW
proficiency exam session. No problems there.
that is not an act of the VE or of the VEC and needs to occour at
other the same point in space/time as the exams

Not at the same point in "space/time"?

I propose that the tests could be adminsitered in parallel provided that a
wormhole was constructed between FCC applicants and ARRL CW applicants.

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:44:11 -0500, "Stefan Wolfe"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
Then open a new ARRL CW
proficiency exam session. No problems there.
that is not an act of the VE or of the VEC and needs to occour at
other the same point in space/time as the exams

Not at the same point in "space/time"?

a simple enough statement

is it beyond you?

The VEC can do whatever it wants. Look at W5YI VEC. They administer all
sorts of non-Amateur radio exams.

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

Phil queried:
I would like to take code exams even if they are
not required by the FCC.

Will VEs continue to conduct code exams and
perhaps offer wpm level certificates?

Kudos to you for wanting to do so. ARRL's station W1AW sends Morse practice
daily. There's a monthly "Qualifying Run" that you can copy, send your
results to ARRL, and (if 100% correct for = 1 minute) receive a certificate
in return. If you have difficulty hearing W1AW from CT and you're on the
"left coast", you may be able to hear K6YR better (Qualifying Runs only).
There are also sound files online for practice. Details are he
http://www.arrl.org/w1aw.html

Stephan suggested that VEs could additionally offer optional Morse
certification at license testing sessions. What a great idea -- especially
for those w/o the capability to receive the transmissions! ARRL, are you
listening?

73,
Bryan WA7PRC

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
...
Phil queried:
I would like to take code exams even if they are
not required by the FCC.

Will VEs continue to conduct code exams and
perhaps offer wpm level certificates?

Kudos to you for wanting to do so. ARRL's station W1AW sends Morse
practice
daily. There's a monthly "Qualifying Run" that you can copy, send your
results to ARRL, and (if 100% correct for = 1 minute) receive a
certificate
in return. If you have difficulty hearing W1AW from CT and you're on the
"left coast", you may be able to hear K6YR better (Qualifying Runs only).
There are also sound files online for practice. Details are he
http://www.arrl.org/w1aw.html

Stephan suggested that VEs could additionally offer optional Morse
certification at license testing sessions. What a great idea --
especially
for those w/o the capability to receive the transmissions! ARRL, are you
listening?

73,
Bryan WA7PRC



They are already investigating this. I've received several emails over the
last week or so.

Dee, N8UZE

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

Bryan wrote:
There's a monthly "Qualifying Run" that you can copy, send your
results to ARRL, and (if 100% correct for = 1 minute) receive
a certificate in return.

What does one do with such a certificate?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 2, 9:54 am, "KH6HZ" wrote:
extremely doubtful

I suspect other organizations, like FISTS, may step up to the plate and
offer some type of competency certificates, if you're really interested in
such things.

Despite what you read here, from a few embittered people who feel the code
exam "persecuted" them, most hams on the airwaves really don't care if you
passed a 5, 13, or 20wpm code test or not.

Why? Well, if I CQ in morse code on a frequency at 25wpm, and you respond,
and we have a nice conversation -- does it really matter if you "passed" a
20wpm code test or not?

73
kh6hz

My ARRL Division is exploring bringing the "qualifying runs" to a
local venue. I don't know if they will run them concurrently with
License Exams, don't care. It will probably be a means for long time
hams to validate themselves into thinking they are still hams...

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 2, 11:48 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"Bryan" wrote in message

...





Phil queried:
I would like to take code exams even if they are
not required by the FCC.

Will VEs continue to conduct code exams and
perhaps offer wpm level certificates?

Kudos to you for wanting to do so. ARRL's station W1AW sends Morse
practice
daily. There's a monthly "Qualifying Run" that you can copy, send your
results to ARRL, and (if 100% correct for = 1 minute) receive a
certificate
in return. If you have difficulty hearing W1AW from CT and you're on the
"left coast", you may be able to hear K6YR better (Qualifying Runs only).
There are also sound files online for practice. Details are he
http://www.arrl.org/w1aw.html

Stephan suggested that VEs could additionally offer optional Morse
certification at license testing sessions. What a great idea --
especially
for those w/o the capability to receive the transmissions! ARRL, are you
listening?

73,
Bryan WA7PRC

They are already investigating this. I've received several emails over the
last week or so.

Dee, N8UZE-

:Weaver's Words?"

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

wrote:

My ARRL Division is exploring bringing the "qualifying runs" to a
local venue. I don't know if they will run them concurrently with
License Exams, don't care. It will probably be a means for long time
hams to validate themselves into thinking they are still hams...

If I'm not mistaken, the ARRL has offered similar certificates for years.
Not locally, but via mail (i.e. you copy 1 minute of code at X WPM and you
get a certificate from the League). Not sure if other organizations like
FISTS do something similar or not.

I can't imagine for the life of me why you would have an issue with that. In
a sense, it is little different than contesting... WAS, for instance.

Perhaps it is the choice of operating mode that offends you for some reason?

Would it be more to your liking if the ARRL had "FM competency certificates"
where people had to copy a solid minute of a voice transmission and mail it
in the to the League?

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
. ..
Bryan wrote:
There's a monthly "Qualifying Run" that you can copy, send your
results to ARRL, and (if 100% correct for = 1 minute) receive a
certificate in return.

What does one do with such a certificate?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

I keep it in a 3 ring binder with my special events certificate myself. At
the time that I took my 5wpm and 13wpm tests, I was dissatisfied with my
copy even though I passed. For my personal satisfaction, I worked for the
Code Proficiency Certificate and received one for 10wpm with an endorsement
for 15wpm.

Dee, N8UZE

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

Dee Flint wrote:
I keep it in a 3 ring binder with my special events certificate myself. At
the time that I took my 5wpm and 13wpm tests, I was dissatisfied with my
copy even though I passed. For my personal satisfaction, I worked for the
Code Proficiency Certificate and received one for 10wpm with an endorsement
for 15wpm.

So that's why my parents retrieved my BS university diploma
and hung it on their wall after I tossed it in the trash. :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 3, 5:39�am, Cecil Moore wrote:
Bryan wrote:
There's a monthly "Qualifying Run" that you can copy, send your
results to ARRL, and (if 100% correct for = 1 minute) receive
a certificate in return.

What does one do with such a certificate?
--
73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com

Easy answer: Pick up a nice frame at K-Mart, mount
the certificate in it, put it on the wall, invite "friends and
neighbors" over to admire it! :-)

LA

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 3, 9:26�am, Cecil Moore wrote:
Dee Flint wrote:
I keep it in a 3 ring binder with my special events certificate myself. *At
the time that I took my 5wpm and 13wpm tests, I was dissatisfied with my
copy even though I passed. *For my personal satisfaction, I worked for the
Code Proficiency Certificate and received one for 10wpm with an endorsement
for 15wpm.

So that's why my parents retrieved my BS university diploma
and hung it on their wall after I tossed it in the trash. :-)
--
73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com

One reason for inventing newsgroups was a trash-bin
equivalent for all the "BS" to be tossed. QED. :-)

LA

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

I think the latter would be an excellent idea. I would vounteer to "VE" such
as session. Also, aren't there certain FCC licenses that require 20 wpm
testing (like Radiotelegraph)? Not sure if this license class is obsolete...

I think ham radio was the last service that required a code test.

One thing that I would like but many people on the ng would disagree with: A
certain vanity callsign format reserved only for amateurs who posses such a
certificate.


Not gonna happen, the FCC is not likely to want to be saddled with
another chore to enforce that.

The best way to demonstrate your code skills is to get on the air and
participate in CW QSOs and contests. Enjoy.

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

Will VEs continue to conduct code exams and
perhaps offer wpm level certificates?

no VE's will not

Not true.
I would VE such sessions.


as I understand it would not be at a true VE session and I hope it
gets enforced


He could do the code tests after the official VE sessions are over.
Then it's just a private matter between friends.

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 3, 11:53�am, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message

. ..

Bryan wrote:
There's a monthly "Qualifying Run" that you can copy, send your
results to ARRL, and (if 100% correct for = 1 minute) receive a
certificate in return.

What does one do with such a certificate?
--
73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com

I keep it in a 3 ring binder with my special events certificate myself. *

Same here.

What I did was to get a pack of plastic "sheet protectors" and put the
various important Amateur Radio papers in them so there's no need to
punch holes. Original license, various awards, membership
certificates, etc. Inexpensive and easy.

At
the time that I took my 5wpm and 13wpm tests, I was dissatisfied with my
copy even though I passed. *For my personal satisfaction, I worked for the
Code Proficiency Certificate and received one for 10wpm with an endorsement
for 15wpm.

I got up to 30 wpm way back in the late 1960s. Lots of stickers on
that certificate!

Perhaps I shall do it all over again, this time with a mill, and my
new callsign.

73 es KC de Jim, N2EY

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 3, 9:30 am, "KH6HZ" wrote:
wrote:
My ARRL Division is exploring bringing the "qualifying runs" to a
local venue. I don't know if they will run them concurrently with
License Exams, don't care. It will probably be a means for long time
hams to validate themselves into thinking they are still hams...

If I'm not mistaken, the ARRL has offered similar certificates for years.
Not locally, but via mail (i.e. you copy 1 minute of code at X WPM and you
get a certificate from the League). Not sure if other organizations like
FISTS do something similar or not.

Don't know much about FISTS, but you are correct about the ARRL. They
have two programs... code practice and qualifying runs. If you
qualify, send in your copy, and they send you a certificate for
whatever the speed was.

Every once in a while I try to copy the slow code practice, not the
qualifying run, it still doesn't thrill me after 20 years.

I can't imagine for the life of me why you would have an issue with that. In
a sense, it is little different than contesting... WAS, for instance.

I have so little feelings for it that its hard for me to imagine it an
issue. I only brought it up because it was "on-topic," not that I had
an interest in it.

Our Division Director, Jim Weaver, is highly proficient at keeping the
division informed.

Perhaps it is the choice of operating mode that offends you for some reason?

Copying a code tape in a classroom does not offend me. Copying code
practice on the air does not offend me. Copying a qualifying run on
the air and sending in for a certificate does not offend me. Using
code in a two way communication does not offend me.

Would it be more to your liking if the ARRL had "FM competency certificates"
where people had to copy a solid minute of a voice transmission and mail it
in the to the League?

Is this something I want my League spending money on? Sure, I don't
care. If it help these guys get over their loss... it will be money
well spent.

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 3, 11:53 am, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message

. ..

Bryan wrote:
There's a monthly "Qualifying Run" that you can copy, send your
results to ARRL, and (if 100% correct for = 1 minute) receive a
certificate in return.

What does one do with such a certificate?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

I keep it in a 3 ring binder with my special events certificate myself. At
the time that I took my 5wpm and 13wpm tests, I was dissatisfied with my
copy even though I passed. For my personal satisfaction, I worked for the
Code Proficiency Certificate and received one for 10wpm with an endorsement
for 15wpm.

Dee, N8UZE

I had a WAS Map that I colored in each state that I worked. That was
fun.

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 3, 5:37 pm, wrote:
On Feb 3, 11:53?am, "Dee Flint" wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message

...

Bryan wrote:
There's a monthly "Qualifying Run" that you can copy, send your
results to ARRL, and (if 100% correct for = 1 minute) receive a
certificate in return.

What does one do with such a certificate?
--
73, Cecil ?http://www.w5dxp.com

I keep it in a 3 ring binder with my special events certificate myself. ?

Same here.

What I did was to get a pack of plastic "sheet protectors" and put the
various important Amateur Radio papers in them so there's no need to
punch holes. Original license, various awards, membership
certificates, etc. Inexpensive and easy.

At the time that I took my 5wpm and 13wpm tests, I was dissatisfied with my
copy even though I passed. ?For my personal satisfaction, I worked for the
Code Proficiency Certificate and received one for 10wpm with an endorsement
for 15wpm.

I got up to 30 wpm way back in the late 1960s. Lots of stickers on
that certificate!

Perhaps I shall do it all over again, this time with a mill, and my
new callsign.

73 es KC de Jim, N2EY

Jim, what's your new callsign?

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

Cecil Moore wrote:
Bryan wrote:
There's a monthly "Qualifying Run" that you can copy, send your
results to ARRL, and (if 100% correct for = 1 minute) receive
a certificate in return.

What does one do with such a certificate?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

One can do with it, whatever one wishes. For expressing pride to others, one
could display it. For the purpose of pride to oneself, it need not be
displayed. just knowing it was earned is satisfaction in itself.
73,
Bryan WA7PRC

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

Robert Casey wrote:

I think ham radio was the last service that required a code test.

Not quite. There's still a Morse proficiency requirement for the
Radiotelegraph licenses: http://wireless.fcc.gov/commoperators/exam.html.
Unlike the Amateur exams, the speed requirement depends on the class of
license, *and* whether or not any aids are used. Tests are for both
receiving and sending.

73,
Bryan WA7PRC

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

Bryan wrote:
For expressing pride to others, one could display it.
For the purpose of pride to oneself, it need not be displayed.

From Wikipedia's "Seven Deadly Sins":

"Pride/Hubris (Latin, superbia) ...
In almost every list Pride is considered the original and
most serious of The Seven Deadly Sins, and indeed the ultimate
source from which the others arise."
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 4, 12:06 am, "Bryan" wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Bryan wrote:
There's a monthly "Qualifying Run" that you can copy, send your
results to ARRL, and (if 100% correct for = 1 minute) receive
a certificate in return.

What does one do with such a certificate?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

One can do with it, whatever one wishes. For expressing pride to others, one
could display it. For the purpose of pride to oneself, it need not be
displayed. just knowing it was earned is satisfaction in itself.
73,
Bryan WA7PRC

Knowing you did it is not enough? You need validation from the ARRL
in the form of a certificate?

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 4, 8:04 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
Bryan wrote:
For expressing pride to others, one could display it.
For the purpose of pride to oneself, it need not be displayed.

From Wikipedia's "Seven Deadly Sins":

"Pride/Hubris (Latin, superbia) ...
In almost every list Pride is considered the original and
most serious of The Seven Deadly Sins, and indeed the ultimate
source from which the others arise."
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

What does Wikipedia say about the Church of Saint Hiram? Do they
communicate in Latin?

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

wrote:
On Feb 4, 8:04 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
Bryan wrote:
For expressing pride to others, one could display it.
For the purpose of pride to oneself, it need not be displayed.
From Wikipedia's "Seven Deadly Sins":

"Pride/Hubris (Latin, superbia) ...
In almost every list Pride is considered the original and
most serious of The Seven Deadly Sins, and indeed the ultimate
source from which the others arise."
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

What does Wikipedia say about the Church of Saint Hiram? Do they
communicate in Latin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St._Hiram

Dave K8MN

Ping Len Anderson: Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 4, 12:48 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 4, 8:04 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
Bryan wrote:
For expressing pride to others, one could display it.
For the purpose of pride to oneself, it need not be displayed.
From Wikipedia's "Seven Deadly Sins":

"Pride/Hubris (Latin, superbia) ...
In almost every list Pride is considered the original and
most serious of The Seven Deadly Sins, and indeed the ultimate
source from which the others arise."
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

What does Wikipedia say about the Church of Saint Hiram? Do they
communicate in Latin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St._Hiram

Dave K8MN-

Looks like any other episode of "Extra's Behaving Badly."

Ping Len Anderson: Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

wrote:
On Feb 4, 12:48 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 4, 8:04 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
Bryan wrote:
For expressing pride to others, one could display it.
For the purpose of pride to oneself, it need not be displayed.
From Wikipedia's "Seven Deadly Sins":
"Pride/Hubris (Latin, superbia) ...
In almost every list Pride is considered the original and
most serious of The Seven Deadly Sins, and indeed the ultimate
source from which the others arise."
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
What does Wikipedia say about the Church of Saint Hiram? Do they
communicate in Latin?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St._Hiram


Looks like any other episode of "Extra's Behaving Badly."

You posed a question. I provided an accurate answer.

Dave K8MN

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

Knowing you did it is not enough? You need validation from the ARRL
in the form of a certificate?


One could simply tape the over-the-air code test and play it over and
over to "copy" it, and then submit it. But that's getting kinda lame....

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

On Feb 4, 6:03 pm, robert casey wrote:
Knowing you did it is not enough? You need validation from the ARRL
in the form of a certificate?

One could simply tape the over-the-air code test and play it over and
over to "copy" it, and then submit it. But that's getting kinda lame....

I'm not Robesin. I don't need to lie to myself.

Will there be post-NoCode exams?
 

"KH6HZ" wrote in message
...
extremely doubtful

I suspect other organizations, like FISTS, may step up to the plate and
offer some type of competency certificates, if you're really interested in
such things.

Despite what you read here, from a few embittered people who feel the code
exam "persecuted" them, most hams on the airwaves really don't care if you
passed a 5, 13, or 20wpm code test or not.

Why? Well, if I CQ in morse code on a frequency at 25wpm, and you respond,
and we have a nice conversation -- does it really matter if you "passed" a
20wpm code test or not?

73
kh6hz

Well said Mike.
Ace - WH2T, 20 WPM Extra