RadioBanter - ARRL Now Only Wants No Code Hams

james wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:40:01 -0500, "Dee Flint"
wrote:

+++
+++"james" wrote in message
...
+++ On 12 Feb 2007 21:28:11 -0800, "
+++ wrote:
+++
++++++On Feb 12, 4:35?pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:
++++++ "policy-ham" wrote in message
++++++
++++++ oups.com...
++++++
++++++ Found on qrz.com. he ARRL now only wants only no code hams. And as
++++++ for the rest of us?
++++++
++++++ Not true what you say about the ARRL. Amateur radio is only as good
+++as the
++++++ effort you put into it. If you can't do code, you cannot communicate
+++with a
++++++ huge subset of the amateur population. That is a fact. You never will
+++be
++++++ able to so until your learn code, FCC requirement or no FCC
+++requirement.
++++++ There is some DX you will never get, some countries you may never
+++contact,
++++++ many people you will never meet.
++++++
++++++ Some no-coders sound like the gay rights lobby: They seem to be
+++trying to
++++++ make no-code the "norm". "I want you to think I am normal". "I am as
+++just
++++++ good as you, I can do HF now, I can be a real 'Ham'". (Gays can get
++++++ "married"). True by regulation, but not really in practice.
++++++
++++++ In the foreseeable future you will never truly be a ham until you can
+++QSO in
++++++ code; you will only hold a piece of paper authorizing you to
+++communicate on
++++++ HF. Don't shoot the messanger. Don't bother disagreeing with me; it
+++is the
++++++ large subset of the amateur base that you have to convince and,
++++++ unfortunately, that will take a while to change IF it ever does
+++change. When
++++++ people are sick of SSB QRM or we cannot QSO by voice due to
+++conditions, we
++++++ can simply move to the CW sub-bands and you are left "holding the
+++mike".
++++++
++++++ As Walter Cronkite used to say. "That's the way it is..." February
+++23, 2007.
++++++
++++++ Hello? This is February 12, 2007. FACTUAL ERROR!!!
++++++
++++++ There's one little problem, "Stefan." Isn't ANY "Stefan Wolfe"
++++++ in the FCC CORES database. The best that can be found
++++++ are two Steven Wolfes:
++++++
++++++ Steven H. Wolfe, KC4UZW, Tech, FRN 0004408340
++++++ Steven B. Wolfe, KC9KTN, Tech, FRN 0016067183
++++++
++++++ www.qrz.com confirms that.
++++++
++++++ The only "CW sub-bands" that Techs have is a small
++++++ sliver on the bottom of two VHF ham bands. Of course,
++++++ all other classes can use those. shrug So?
++++++
++++++
++++++
+++ &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
+++
+++ Only giving back which was taken away. In a land far far away and
+++ along time ago Techs had some CW priviledge on 2 and 6 meter CW if my
+++ senile memory has not forgotten me.
+++
+++ james
+++
+++Technicians had and have CW privileges on VHF and UHF whether or not they
+++passed the code. While there are small slivers of 2m and 6m that are
+++exclusively CW, it can be used anywhere above 30mHz by all licensees of
+++Technician or higher. Technicians have ALL privileges above 30mHz.
+++
+++Dee, N8UZE
+++
Back in the 60s Novices had a small part of the 2 M band also.

james

Novices were permitted 145-147 MHz Phone and CW until November, 1968. I
believe the 2m privileges came into existence in 1951 when the Novice
license was created.

Dave K8MN