ARRL Now Only Wants No Code Hams - Holding Midnight Exams
 

ARRL Now Only Wants No Code Hams - Holding Midnight Exams
 

From: Dave Heil on Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:11:06 GMT

wrote:

The FCC has released its latest operating budget listing over
its web page. Anyone who cares to can go check it out.
The ARRL never reveals its budget plans to the public,
despite all its Believers' claims that it is handled in a
"democratic fashion"...

Where is it mandated that the ARRL reveal its budget plan?

Oh, oh, little red-hatted monkey's ox has been gored!

Stand by while the Schutzstaffel marches on (with hob-
nailed boots) to DEMAND explanations for such egregious
negative commentary! [Zey tink dey haf vays of making
me cringe and beg for mercy? :-) ]

If the ARRL is as open and above-board as they imply,
they should make everything known to their membership.
Of course, if they did that then they would have to
(by law) reveal the annual salaries of their highest-
paid staff...some of whom have tried to "debate" things
in here AS IF they were jes' good ol' boys. :-)

The League is governed by an elected board of directors who live all
over the United States. Those directors are elected by League members
from their geographical area.

Wah, wah, wah...AS IF the League "represented ALL amateur
licensees" in a "democratic manner" AS LAWFUL as any
federal government body. BS. They are a PRIVATE
membership entity and the membership represents ONLY
a quarter of the total US amateur radio licensees.

...AS IF it were an arm of the guvmint.

I don't know of anyone saying that except for you.

Then you don't know much, are a BELIEVER in everything
the League says they are/do, and have an extremely
POOR memory of what has been claimed by other Believers
in here in past years.

Of course YOU have FAILED to secure a Directorship,
haven't you? :-)

Are you making brown-nose statements in here to gain a
better image for another election? :-)


The best one can hope for is someone else getting copies
of its IRS Returns and publicizes those. Otherwise we
"common folk" would never know its a multi-million dollar
"non-profit" organization.

The League must submit all kinds of paperwork to government.

Name ALL of them besides the annual IRS Tax Returns.

Remember your organ grinder's ****y pedantry on EXACT
figures and details. Do as he says and he might give
you some of the pennies out of his tin cup you carry.

If
government finds a problem, do you think it will sweep it under the rug,
or will it address the problem?

Let's just say it will NOT be national news carried in
journalistic circles as Page 1 material. :-)

The ARRL is still very "small potatoes" as membership
organizations go.

How are you involved?

Tsk, tsk. Your only "comment" here seems to be on a simple
comment I made about the FCC. The FCC has definitely
posted their proposed annual budget. I just pointed out
that the ARRL never does that sort of thing...and that got
your ox gored somehow.

I'm "not involved" with the FCC. I don't work there, nor
for them. But, I am a citizen of the United States, was
one long before you came into existance. I CAN speak to
MY government without "being involved" IN the government.

You aren't an ARRL member. You have no standing in the ARRL.
You have no vote in ARRL matters.

Wah, wah, wah...there you go again with the "not involved"
routine. :-)

The ARRL loves to Talk Big and say it "represents all US
radio amateurs." They can't possibly represent all, not
even close to a majority status. They are a MINORITY
membership group.

But, their survival as a profit-making publisher DEPENDS
on their PR image. THAT income keeps them going, pays
their bills, pays their staff, the whole thing...with the
possible exception of QST staff which depends on ad sales
to break even. Simple economics. Praise themselves, build
the image, draw in customers, get them to pay for things.
Along the way they can build a core membership that becomes
a devoted following of Believers. Like yourself.

Politically, the ARRL is a SPECIAL-INTEREST group. Not only
does the ARRL have a professional lobbyist firm on retainer
in DC but their "rep" allows government types to notice the
pretty logotype on their papers and "important" titles of
their officers. They have "no" influence, are altruistic
in some kind of extreme? BS.

In the past three-decades-plus, the ARRL has, most definitely
toadied to the brass-pounders, over-emphasized that singular
skill over and above all other skills. Their skewed
demographics (relative to the total amateur licensees in US)
of their core membership (olde-tymers, life members, etc)
shows that. Their "casual" mention of "CW" over all other
modes in publications shows that...their core membership
loves that sort of thing.

But, the ARRL's core membership is following normal human
life attrition. That means their membership is dwindling.
If the membership is dwindling, then the demographics of
member numbers presented to advertisers twice a year shows
a declining market space. Dues for membership are a very
SMALL part of the ARRL's income. They've already shown
their need for funding with repeated requests for donations
of all kinds over and above their membership dues.

The ARRL's PR tune is being rewritten now. The small
coterie of movers and shakers in/around Newington aren't
stupid. FCC 06-178 marks one of the significant, if not
most significant event in US amateur radio history of
the past half century. Old-fashioned morse code mode
is NO LONGER the featured epitome of amateur radio
operating skills...if we are to read between the lines
of their latest "midnight exams" news posting. But, at
the same time, those that want to become one with the
olde-tymers can take a code test before 23 Feb 07. That
is a clear sign the ARRL is trying to please BOTH sides
of the morse code testing issue. They need to be careful
in straddling the opinion fence lest they do physical
damage to themselves. Either way, it does not matter
to me except for the PR they use to masquerade as a
"representative of all [US] amateurs." Pfaughh.

I'm a Life Member of a professional association. Pros
aren't amateurs...yet some pros like to also be amateurs
when not involved in professional work. You revile that
for some twisted personal reason. You don't understand
that a professional radio operator license takes as much
effort and knowledge (perhaps more) as any amateur radio
operator license. Why? To reinforce your own PR image
of an 'amateur expert' through morse code skill? To ACT
the "superior" by reviling all who do not respect your
mighty amateur 'accomplishments?' Do you have an ACTOR's
guild membership? Why do you wish to suppress all
opinions against the only national amateur radio member
organization in the United States? What are you hiding?

ARRL Now Only Wants No Code Hams - Holding Midnight Exams
 

ARRL Now Only Wants No Code Hams - Holding Midnight Exams
 

From: Dave Heil on Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:11:06 GMT

wrote:

The FCC has released its latest operating budget listing over
its web page. Anyone who cares to can go check it out.
The ARRL never reveals its budget plans to the public,
despite all its Believers' claims that it is handled in a
"democratic fashion"...

Where is it mandated that the ARRL reveal its budget plan?

Oh, oh, little red-hatted monkey's ox has been gored!

Stand by while the Schutzstaffel marches on (with hob-
nailed boots) to DEMAND explanations for such egregious
negative commentary! [Zey tink dey haf vays of making
me cringe and beg for mercy? :-) ]

If the ARRL is as open and above-board as they imply,
they should make everything known to their membership.
Of course, if they did that then they would have to
(by law) reveal the annual salaries of their highest-
paid staff...some of whom have tried to "debate" things
in here AS IF they were jes' good ol' boys. :-)

The League is governed by an elected board of directors who live all
over the United States. Those directors are elected by League members
from their geographical area.


Wah, wah, wah...AS IF the League "represented ALL amateur
licensees" in a "democratic manner" AS LAWFUL as any
federal government body. BS. They are a PRIVATE
membership entity and the membership represents ONLY
a quarter of the total US amateur radio licensees.

...AS IF it were an arm of the guvmint.

I don't know of anyone saying that except for you.

Then you don't know much, are a BELIEVER in everything
the League says they are/do, and have an extremely
POOR memory of what has been claimed by other Believers
in here in past years.

Of course YOU have FAILED to secure a Directorship,
haven't you? :-)

Are you making brown-nose statements in here to gain a
better image for another election? :-)


The best one can hope for is someone else getting copies
of its IRS Returns and publicizes those. Otherwise we
"common folk" would never know its a multi-million dollar
"non-profit" organization.

The League must submit all kinds of paperwork to government.

Name ALL of them besides the annual IRS Tax Returns.

Remember your organ grinder's ****y pedantry on EXACT
figures and details. Do as he says and he might give
you some of the pennies out of his tin cup you carry.

If
government finds a problem, do you think it will sweep it under the rug,
or will it address the problem?

Let's just say it will NOT be national news carried in
journalistic circles as Page 1 material. :-)

The ARRL is still very "small potatoes" as membership
organizations go.

How are you involved?

Tsk, tsk. Your only "comment" here seems to be on a simple
comment I made about the FCC. The FCC has definitely
posted their proposed annual budget. I just pointed out
that the ARRL never does that sort of thing...and that got
your ox gored somehow.

I'm "not involved" with the FCC. I don't work there, nor
for them. But, I am a citizen of the United States, was
one long before you came into existance. I CAN speak to
MY government without "being involved" IN the government.

You aren't an ARRL member. You have no standing in the ARRL.
You have no vote in ARRL matters.

Wah, wah, wah...there you go again with the "not involved"
routine. :-)

The ARRL loves to Talk Big and say it "represents all US
radio amateurs." They can't possibly represent all, not
even close to a majority status. They are a MINORITY
membership group.

But, their survival as a profit-making publisher DEPENDS
on their PR image. THAT income keeps them going, pays
their bills, pays their staff, the whole thing...with the
possible exception of QST staff which depends on ad sales
to break even. Simple economics. Praise themselves, build
the image, draw in customers, get them to pay for things.
Along the way they can build a core membership that becomes
a devoted following of Believers. Like yourself.

Politically, the ARRL is a SPECIAL-INTEREST group. Not only
does the ARRL have a professional lobbyist firm on retainer
in DC but their "rep" allows government types to notice the
pretty logotype on their papers and "important" titles of
their officers. They have "no" influence, are altruistic
in some kind of extreme? BS.

In the past three-decades-plus, the ARRL has, most definitely
toadied to the brass-pounders, over-emphasized that singular
skill over and above all other skills. Their skewed
demographics (relative to the total amateur licensees in US)
of their core membership (olde-tymers, life members, etc)
shows that. Their "casual" mention of "CW" over all other
modes in publications shows that...their core membership
loves that sort of thing.

But, the ARRL's core membership is following normal human
life attrition. That means their membership is dwindling.
If the membership is dwindling, then the demographics of
member numbers presented to advertisers twice a year shows
a declining market space. Dues for membership are a very
SMALL part of the ARRL's income. They've already shown
their need for funding with repeated requests for donations
of all kinds over and above their membership dues.

The ARRL's PR tune is being rewritten now. The small
coterie of movers and shakers in/around Newington aren't
stupid. FCC 06-178 marks one of the significant, if not
most significant event in US amateur radio history of
the past half century. Old-fashioned morse code mode
is NO LONGER the featured epitome of amateur radio
operating skills...if we are to read between the lines
of their latest "midnight exams" news posting. But, at
the same time, those that want to become one with the
olde-tymers can take a code test before 23 Feb 07. That
is a clear sign the ARRL is trying to please BOTH sides
of the morse code testing issue. They need to be careful
in straddling the opinion fence lest they do physical
damage to themselves. Either way, it does not matter
to me except for the PR they use to masquerade as a
"representative of all [US] amateurs." Pfaughh.

I'm a Life Member of a professional association. Pros
aren't amateurs...yet some pros like to also be amateurs
when not involved in professional work. You revile that
for some twisted personal reason. You don't understand
that a professional radio operator license takes as much
effort and knowledge (perhaps more) as any amateur radio
operator license. Why? To reinforce your own PR image
of an 'amateur expert' through morse code skill? To ACT
the "superior" by reviling all who do not respect your
mighty amateur 'accomplishments?' Do you have an ACTOR's
guild membership? Why do you wish to suppress all
opinions against the only national amateur radio member
organization in the United States? What are you hiding?

Largest Amateur Radio Organization?
 

On Feb 14, 11:36?pm, Dave Heil wrote:

In amateur radio, it is the biggest potato there is, here in the U.S.

Actually, Dave, I think the ARRL may be the largest amateur radio
organization in the world, or at least the largest national amateur
radio
organization.

According to www.AH0A.org, JARL membership is now well under
100,000. What other amateur radio organization even comes close
to 100,000 members?

73 de Jim, N2EY

Largest Amateur Radio Organization?
 

On Feb 15, 5:47 am, wrote:
On Feb 14, 11:36?pm, Dave Heil wrote:

In amateur radio, it is the biggest potato there is, here in the U.S.

Actually, Dave, I think the ARRL may be the largest amateur radio
organization in the world, or at least the largest national amateur
radio
organization.

According towww.AH0A.org, JARL membership is now well under
100,000. What other amateur radio organization even comes close
to 100,000 members?

For now yup prolly but there's some cryptic chatter in the Back
Channel about Sweetums' French cousin Foghorn LePutz pulling together
a huge organization of Eurohams which will publish it's annual budget
and won't have "Members only" pages in it's website.

73 de Jim, N2EY

w3rv

Largest Amateur Radio Organization?
 

wrote:
On Feb 14, 11:36?pm, Dave Heil wrote:

In amateur radio, it is the biggest potato there is, here in the U.S.

Actually, Dave, I think the ARRL may be the largest amateur radio
organization in the world, or at least the largest national amateur
radio
organization.

I think you're correct.

According to www.AH0A.org, JARL membership is now well under
100,000. What other amateur radio organization even comes close
to 100,000 members?

I hedged my bet, thinking of JARL. I have a few copies of Japan's "CQ
Ham Radio" which are as thick as big city phone books.

Dave K8MN

Largest Amateur Radio Organization?
 

Largest Amateur Radio Organization?
 

On Feb 15, 11:01�am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 14, 11:36?pm, Dave Heil wrote:

In amateur radio, it is the biggest potato there is, here in the U.S.

Actually, Dave, I think the ARRL may be the largest amateur radio
organization in the world, or at least the largest national amateur
radio
organization.

I think you're correct.

According to www.AH0A.org, JARL membership is now well under
100,000. What other amateur radio organization even comes close
to 100,000 members?

I hedged my bet, thinking of JARL.

Their membership has been cut almost in half in the past ten years. It
follows closely the numerical decline of Japanese amateur radio in
general.

I remember how, ten years or so ago, the large numbers of Japanese
amateurs was touted as proof of the need for a nocodetest license with
HF privileges. Japan was held up as the poster country for code test
reduction/elimination.

(Japan has had such a license for decades. They used a creative
interpretation of the treaty coupled with very lower power limits for
the nocodetest class of license).

*I have a few copies of Japan's "CQ
Ham Radio" which are as thick as big city phone books.

How old are they?

Judging by the number of stations, the USA has regained the lead as
the country with the most licensed amateurs. While Japanese operator
license numbers are higher, it should be remembered that those
licenses never expire. Thus an amateur who progressed through the four
JA license classes 50 years ago increases the Japanese operator
license total by four, even if the amateur became a Silent Key decades
ago.

The number of Japanese operator licenses shown on the AH0A website is
really an indication of how many amateurs have been licensed in that
country since 1952, not how many are currently licensed. Imagine if
the US kept license totals that way!

73 de Jim, N2EY

Largest Amateur Radio Organization?
 

On Feb 15, 2:47?am, wrote:
On Feb 14, 11:36?pm, Dave Heil wrote:

In amateur radio, it is the biggest potato there is, here in the U.S.

Actually, Dave, I think the ARRL may be the largest amateur radio
organization in the world, or at least the largest national amateur
radio
organization.

Is "here in the U.S." not understood by you?

When you write ", or at least the largest national amateur
radio organization," are you saying that in regards to JUST
the USA or are you squeaking globally? Why aren't you
being clear in your groundwork for yet-another-diatribe of
others being "100% wrong?"

According towww.AH0A.org, JARL membership is now well under
100,000.

Is this "towww.AH0A.org" an Ultimate Authority? Are you
fluent in Japanese? Why not ask the JARL how many
they have?

Don't you have EXACT figures for the number of members
of the ARRL? Don't you know that they give those every
six months? Do you know where everyone can access that
information? Have you ever looked at the QST sub-pages
on the ARRL web-site?

Why are you so APPROXIMATE? Don't you know that,
in your own "logic" that APPROXIMATIONS are 100%
wrong?

"The world wonders..."

LA