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In article t, "Bill Sohl"
writes: Good thing I never made the argument about code testing being a barrier. Agreed! So we have to wonder why, even after almost four years, so many hams have not upgraded. I can think of several reasons: 1) Perfectly happy with the license they have now 2) Don't know what's involved in upgrading 3) Dead, incapacitated, or completely inactive. 4) Haven't gotten around to it yet. 5) Waiting for the requirements to change yet again (for example, there was a false rumor some time back that Advanceds would get a free upgrade to Extra) 6) Can't pass the written tests yet. I expected the numbers of Advanceds and Tech Pluses to drop faster than they have in the 43 months. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"N2EY" wrote in message ... In article t, "Bill Sohl" writes: Good thing I never made the argument about code testing being a barrier. Agreed! So we have to wonder why, even after almost four years, so many hams have not upgraded. I can think of several reasons: 1) Perfectly happy with the license they have now 2) Don't know what's involved in upgrading 3) Dead, incapacitated, or completely inactive. 4) Haven't gotten around to it yet. 5) Waiting for the requirements to change yet again (for example, there was a false rumor some time back that Advanceds would get a free upgrade to Extra) 6) Can't pass the written tests yet. I expected the numbers of Advanceds and Tech Pluses to drop faster than they have in the 43 months. Jim, I agree all those reasons are valid...the difficulty is we have no way of knowing the breakdown. I think novice will dry up first...i.e. before Advanced. Cheers, Bill K2UNK |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of December 15, 2003: Novice - 32,792 (decrease of 16,537) Technician - 259,563 (increase of 54,169) Technician Plus - 63,689 (decrease of 65,396) General - 141,431 (increase of 28,754) Advanced - 82,092 (decrease of 17,690) Extra - 104,798 (increase of 26,048) Total - 684,140 (increase of 9,348) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of December 31, 2003: Novice - 32,755 (decrease of 16,574) Technician - 259,431 (increase of 54,037) Technician Plus - 63,070 (decrease of 66,015) General - 141,447 (increase of 28,770) Advanced - 82,022 (decrease of 17,760) Extra - 104,867 (increase of 26,117) Total - 683,592 (increase of 8,800) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of January 15, 2004: Novice - 32,718 (decrease of 16,611) Technician - 259,949 (increase of 54,555) Technician Plus - 62,714 (decrease of 66,146) General - 141,443 (increase of 28,766) Advanced - 81,961 (decrease of 17,821) Extra - 104,946 (increase of 26,196) Total - 683,731 (increase of 8,939) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of February 1, 2004: Novice - 32,611 (decrease of 16,718) Technician - 260,018 (increase of 54,624) Technician Plus - 62,284 (decrease of 66,576) General - 141,207 (increase of 28,530) Advanced - 81,699 (decrease of 18,083) Extra - 104,923 (increase of 26,173) Total - 682,742 (increase of 7,950) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of February 15, 2004: Novice - 32,541 (decrease of 16,788) Technician - 260,212 (increase of 54,818) Technician Plus - 61,993 (decrease of 66,867) General - 141,124 (increase of 28,447) Advanced - 81,565 (decrease of 18,217) Extra - 104,978 (increase of 26,228) Total - 682,413 (increase of 7,621) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
Jim.
Thought you said there were 34,000 Novices the other day? Also, take a look at the upcoming expirations in the next 6 months...some pretty hefty numbers of hams with expirations coming up. I expect at least a 10K overall reduction of licensed hams by end of 2004 based on SK, lack of interest, etc. based on past renewal rates. Cheers, Bill K2UNK "N2EY" wrote in message ... These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of February 15, 2004: Novice - 32,541 (decrease of 16,788) Technician - 260,212 (increase of 54,818) Technician Plus - 61,993 (decrease of 66,867) General - 141,124 (increase of 28,447) Advanced - 81,565 (decrease of 18,217) Extra - 104,978 (increase of 26,228) Total - 682,413 (increase of 7,621) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
In article et, "Bill Sohl"
writes: Also, take a look at the upcoming expirations in the next 6 months...some pretty hefty numbers of hams with expirations coming up. All that means is that the dates when today's hams got their licenses are not evenly distributed. Renewal dates are driven by things like rules changes and vanity gates. True, but if the non-renewal rate is the same then I predict a total drop of all hams by something on the order of 10K by year's end. Perhaps. But where are your numbers, Bill? How many licenses were due to expire in, say, 2003, vs. how many were renewed? (IOW, what % were renewed?) I did some quick figuring and found that for 2003, for every 11 license renewed, 1 was renewed in the grace period. I expect at least a 10K overall reduction of licensed hams by end of 2004 based on SK, lack of interest, etc. based on past renewal rates. Another WAG, Bill? SWAG! How about some numbers to back it up? Note that even if a license is due to expire in, say, June 2004, there is a 27 month window during which it can be renewed. How do we capture all of that? True, but... Look at Speroni's grace period renewals for the last few years. No big numbers there. For every 11 renewals there was 1 in the grace period. Note also that despite huge numbers of actual expirations there have not been big decreases in license totals. Will any of the proposed rules changes make a difference in these trends? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"N2EY" wrote in message ... In article et, "Bill Sohl" writes: Also, take a look at the upcoming expirations in the next 6 months...some pretty hefty numbers of hams with expirations coming up. All that means is that the dates when today's hams got their licenses are not evenly distributed. Renewal dates are driven by things like rules changes and vanity gates. True, but if the non-renewal rate is the same then I predict a total drop of all hams by something on the order of 10K by year's end. Perhaps. But where are your numbers, Bill? How many licenses were due to expire in, say, 2003, vs. how many were renewed? (IOW, what % were renewed?) I did some quick figuring and found that for 2003, for every 11 license renewed, 1 was renewed in the grace period. I expect at least a 10K overall reduction of licensed hams by end of 2004 based on SK, lack of interest, etc. based on past renewal rates. Another WAG, Bill? SWAG! How about some numbers to back it up? The reduction in total licenses has been about 3K since the high point some months back. As for going into any real number crunching, I ask what for? You must have more spare time than I do. My prediction is just that... a prediction based on what I think has been the renewal situation and the greater number of expirations that Speroni shows will happen this year. Note that even if a license is due to expire in, say, June 2004, there is a 27 month window during which it can be renewed. How do we capture all of that? True, but... Look at Speroni's grace period renewals for the last few years. No big numbers there. For every 11 renewals there was 1 in the grace period. Note also that despite huge numbers of actual expirations there have not been big decreases in license totals. Will any of the proposed rules changes make a difference in these trends? If someone is SK, I doubt it. Cheers, Bill K2UNK |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of February 29, 2004: Novice - 32,487 (decrease of 16,842) Technician - 261,050 (increase of 55,656) Technician Plus - 61,644 (decrease of 67,216) General - 141,144 (increase of 28,467) Advanced - 81,455 (decrease of 18,327) Extra - 105,075 (increase of 26,325) Total - 682,855 (increase of 8,063) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of March 15, 2004: Novice - 32,445 (decrease of 16,884) Technician - 261,786 (increase of 56,392) Technician Plus - 61,356 (decrease of 67,504) General - 141,043 (increase of 28,366) Advanced - 81,285 (decrease of 18,497) Extra - 105,132 (increase of 26,382) Total - 683,047 (increase of 8,255) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of March 31, 2004: Novice - 32,247 (decrease of 17,082) Technician - 262,370 (increase of 56,976) Technician Plus - 60,885 (decrease of 67,975) General - 140,768 (increase of 28,091) Advanced - 80,922 (decrease of 18,810) Extra - 105,152 (increase of 26,402) Total - 682,344 (increase of 7,552) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"N2EY" wrote in message ... These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 ------------- As of March 31, 2004: Novice - 32,247 (decrease of 17,082) Technician - 262,370 (increase of 56,976) Technician Plus - 60,885 (decrease of 67,975) General - 140,768 (increase of 28,091) Advanced - 80,922 (decrease of 18,810) Extra - 105,152 (increase of 26,402) Total - 682,344 (increase of 7,552) But compared to March 31 of 2003 when the total was 685,432 we have a 12 month decrease of 3000. Additionally, there are some "heavy" concentrations of license expirations coming up in the next several months which, I think, will see our total licenses drop below 680K and maybe below the March 2000 number. Cheersm Bill K2UNK |
In article . net, "Bill Sohl"
writes: "N2EY" wrote in message ... These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 ------------- As of March 31, 2004: Novice - 32,247 (decrease of 17,082) Technician - 262,370 (increase of 56,976) Technician Plus - 60,885 (decrease of 67,975) General - 140,768 (increase of 28,091) Advanced - 80,922 (decrease of 18,810) Extra - 105,152 (increase of 26,402) Total - 682,344 (increase of 7,552) But compared to March 31 of 2003 when the total was 685,432 we have a 12 month decrease of 3000. Actually a tad more than 3000, Bill. Additionally, there are some "heavy" concentrations of license expirations coming up in the next several months which, I think, will see our total licenses drop below 680K and maybe below the March 2000 number. Time will tell. The renewal rules confuse the situation because you cannot renew more than 90 days before expiration, but you can let the license expire and then renew in the 2 year grace period. The big question is: why such slow growth even after the restructuring of 2000? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"N2EY" wrote in message ... In article . net, "Bill Sohl" writes: "N2EY" wrote in message ... These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 ------------- As of March 31, 2004: Novice - 32,247 (decrease of 17,082) Technician - 262,370 (increase of 56,976) Technician Plus - 60,885 (decrease of 67,975) General - 140,768 (increase of 28,091) Advanced - 80,922 (decrease of 18,810) Extra - 105,152 (increase of 26,402) Total - 682,344 (increase of 7,552) But compared to March 31 of 2003 when the total was 685,432 we have a 12 month decrease of 3000. Actually a tad more than 3000, Bill. Additionally, there are some "heavy" concentrations of license expirations coming up in the next several months which, I think, will see our total licenses drop below 680K and maybe below the March 2000 number. Time will tell. The renewal rules confuse the situation because you cannot renew more than 90 days before expiration, but you can let the license expire and then renew in the 2 year grace period. The big question is: why such slow growth even after the restructuring of 2000? 73 de Jim, N2EY Just an FYI. Any license that is expired but still in the grace period is not listed as expired until after the grace period is over. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes: Time will tell. The renewal rules confuse the situation because you cannot renew more than 90 days before expiration, but you can let the license expire and then renew in the 2 year grace period. The big question is: why such slow growth even after the restructuring of 2000? 73 de Jim, N2EY Just an FYI. Any license that is expired but still in the grace period is not listed as expired until after the grace period is over. That depends on how the data is compiled. The numbers I post here do not include licenses in the grace period. Neither do those on the AH0A website. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"N2EY" wrote in message ... In article , "Dee D. Flint" writes: Time will tell. The renewal rules confuse the situation because you cannot renew more than 90 days before expiration, but you can let the license expire and then renew in the 2 year grace period. The big question is: why such slow growth even after the restructuring of 2000? 73 de Jim, N2EY Just an FYI. Any license that is expired but still in the grace period is not listed as expired until after the grace period is over. That depends on how the data is compiled. The numbers I post here do not include licenses in the grace period. Neither do those on the AH0A website. 73 de Jim, N2EY Jim is 100% accurate on that. Towards that point, if we add grace period expirations to the 684K total it would probably be over 800K hams. Cheers, Bill K2UNK |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of April 15, 2004: Novice - 32,092 (decrease of 17,237) Technician - 262,886 (increase of 57,492) Technician Plus - 60,597 (decrease of 68,263) General - 140,586 (increase of 27,909) Advanced - 80,717 (decrease of 19,065) Extra - 105,246 (increase of 26,496) Total - 682,124 (increase of 7,332) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
Towards that point, if we add grace period expirations to the 684K total it would probably be over 800K hams. Well, some are SK's. But unless someone in the family specifically tells the FCC, they would still show up in the database. |
Have they considered renaming the "Extra" license to the "Nothing-Special"
ticket? Or just make it a "General"; that's what my 1st Class Radiotelephone is now. Seriously, what's needed is to "re-invent" a truly entry-level Novice license (give it a snappier name) that encourages young people to tryout amateur radio before the more serious regulations and theory knowledge is required for the advanced license(es) . ak "N2EY" wrote in message om... These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of April 15, 2004: Novice - 32,092 (decrease of 17,237) Technician - 262,886 (increase of 57,492) Technician Plus - 60,597 (decrease of 68,263) General - 140,586 (increase of 27,909) Advanced - 80,717 (decrease of 19,065) Extra - 105,246 (increase of 26,496) Total - 682,124 (increase of 7,332) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"King Zulu" wrote in message news:6Eehc.34977$yD1.100569@attbi_s54... Have they considered renaming the "Extra" license to the "Nothing-Special" ticket? Or just make it a "General"; that's what my 1st Class Radiotelephone is now. Seriously, what's needed is to "re-invent" a truly entry-level Novice license (give it a snappier name) that encourages young people to tryout amateur radio before the more serious regulations and theory knowledge is required for the advanced license(es) . ak You're right about the name. People, young and old have been big on titles for several years like for instance, Sanitary Engineer for janitor or Executive Assistant for an entry level secretary. Maybe call the new class Certified Electronic Experimenter or Electronic Experimenter In Training or some other snazzy name. The young kids are looking for something like that. Novice is an immediate turnoff nowadays. The new class wouldn't have to have lots of privileges, just a classy name to attract most young people. David |
"David 01" wrote in message ... You're right about the name. People, young and old have been big on titles for several years like for instance, Sanitary Engineer for janitor or Executive Assistant for an entry level secretary. Maybe call the new class Certified Electronic Experimenter or Electronic Experimenter In Training or some other snazzy name. The young kids are looking for something like that. Novice is an immediate turnoff nowadays. The new class wouldn't have to have lots of privileges, just a classy name to attract most young people. David I agree. And when the Novice ticket became renewable, the test materiel got harder; that made it more difficult to attract middle school and early high school candidates. In my day, it was knowing just enough of the rules to get by and a very little theory to operate at 75-watts input with a crystal to keep us in our band. From that, I gained enough interest in radio to get the Extra before the disastrous "incentive licensing" debacle took place. Today's beginners need to be connected with computers, so I think that the simple entry ticket (CEE ?) should allow all digital modes within restricted sub-bands, including the HF bands. The code capability should be an endorsement thing, with a small bottom-of-the band CW incentive, much like the Extras has today. However, the no-coders should be able to use cw within their sub-bands, without the endorsement. But when BPL gets going full force, maybe all such concerns will just be academic as the bands won't be much good for anyone except the power companies. AK |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of April 30, 2004: Novice - 32,009 (decrease of 17,320) Technician - 263,923 (increase of 58,529) Technician Plus - 60,241 (decrease of 68,619) General - 140,628 (increase of 27,951) Advanced - 80,650 (decrease of 19,132) Extra - 105,360 (increase of 26,610) Total - 682,811 (increase of 8,019) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of May 16, 2004: Novice - 31,384 (decrease of 17,945) Technician - 264,231 (increase of 58,837) Technician Plus - 59,919 (decrease of 68,941) General - 140,628 (increase of 27,802) Advanced - 80,411 (decrease of 19,371) Extra - 105,369 (increase of 26,619) Total - 682,243 (increase of 7,451) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of May 31, 2004: Novice - 31,545 (decrease of 17,784) Technician - 264,100 (increase of 58,706) Technician Plus - 59,576 (decrease of 69,284) General - 140,048 (increase of 27,371) Advanced - 80,012 (decrease of 19,770) Extra - 105,358 (increase of 26,608) Total - 680,639 (increase of 5,847) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of June 15, 2004: Novice - 31,495 (decrease of 17,834) Technician - 264,801 (increase of 59,407) Technician Plus - 59,184 (decrease of 69,676) General - 140,108 (increase of 27,431) Advanced - 79,967 (decrease of 19,815) Extra - 105,456 (increase of 26,706) Total - 681,011 (increase of 6,219) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of June 15, 2004: Novice - 31,495 (decrease of 17,834) Technician - 264,801 (increase of 59,407) Technician Plus - 59,184 (decrease of 69,676) General - 140,108 (increase of 27,431) Advanced - 79,967 (decrease of 19,815) Extra - 105,456 (increase of 26,706) Total - 681,011 (increase of 6,219) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of June 15, 2004: Novice - 31,495 (decrease of 17,834) Technician - 264,801 (increase of 59,407) Technician Plus - 59,184 (decrease of 69,676) General - 140,108 (increase of 27,431) Advanced - 79,967 (decrease of 19,815) Extra - 105,456 (increase of 26,706) Total - 681,011 (increase of 6,219) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of June 30, 2004: Novice - 31,422 (decrease of 17,907) Technician - 265,199 (increase of 59,805) Technician Plus - 58,889 (decrease of 69,971) General - 140,237 (increase of 27,560) Advanced - 79,928 (decrease of 19,854) Extra - 105,635 (increase of 26,885) Total - 681,310 (increase of 6,518) An unusually high number of current licenses are due to expire in July. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"N2EY" wrote in message om... These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total - 674,792 As of June 30, 2004: Novice - 31,422 (decrease of 17,907) Technician - 265,199 (increase of 59,805) Technician Plus - 58,889 (decrease of 69,971) General - 140,237 (increase of 27,560) Advanced - 79,928 (decrease of 19,854) Extra - 105,635 (increase of 26,885) Total - 681,310 (increase of 6,518) An unusually high number of current licenses are due to expire in July. 73 de Jim, N2EY Since Tech Plus licenses are being listed as Tech upon renewal, I suggest combining the Tech and Tech Plus numbers in the two lists. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 Total all classes - 674,792 As of June 30, 2004: Novice - 31,422 (decrease of 17,907) Technician - 265,199 (increase of 59,805) Technician Plus - 58,889 (decrease of 69,971) General - 140,237 (increase of 27,560) Advanced - 79,928 (decrease of 19,854) Extra - 105,635 (increase of 26,885) Total Tech/TechPlus - 324,008 Total all classes - 681,310 (increase of 6,518) An unusually high number of current licenses are due to expire in July. 73 de Jim, N2EY Thnaks for the suggestion, Dee. |
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech - 205,394 Tech Plus - 128,860 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 Total all classes - 674,792 As of July 15, 2004: Novice - 30,891 (decrease of 18,438) Technician - 262,355 (increase of 56,961) Technician Plus - 58,172 (decrease of 70,688) General - 139,354 (increase of 26,677) Advanced - 79,368 (decrease of 20,414) Extra - 105,840 (increase of 27,090) Total Tech/TechPlus - 320,527 (decrease of 13,727) Total all classes - 675,620 (increase of 828) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
Subject: ARS License Numbers
From: (N2EY) Date: 7/16/2004 11:19 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 Total all classes - 674,792 As of July 15, 2004: Total Tech/TechPlus - 320,527 (decrease of 13,727) Total all classes - 675,620 (increase of 828) Hmmmmmmmmm........ The codeless class is dwindling while the overall numbers are climbing. SOMEone will have a grand spinning THAT bit of news! Steve, K4YZ |
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: ARS License Numbers From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 7/17/2004 10:23 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS licenses held by individuals on the dates listed: As of May 14, 2000: Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 Total all classes - 674,792 As of July 15, 2004: Total Tech/TechPlus - 320,527 (decrease of 13,727) Total all classes - 675,620 (increase of 828) Hmmmmmmmmm........ The codeless class is dwindling while the overall numbers are climbing. No, that's not what's happening, Steve. We don't really know how many nocodetest Technicians there are anymore. FCC has been renewing Tech Plus as Techs for 51 months now, so an unknown number of current Techs are code-tested. In addition, an unknown number of Novices have upgraded to Tech, and an unknown number of Techs hold Element 1 CSCEs. Then that makes it all-the-more remarkable, Jim...since that number of "Technicians" is even further diluted since "some quantity" of thier numbers are "coded" operators. We cannot draw any conclusions about how much dilution is going on, Steve, unless we have more information. Based on the information I have presented, it's possible that the number of nocodetest Technicians is dropping. It's also possible that the number is growing! Without more information about the mix of those who hold Technician licenses, we can't be sure. We only know that the total of Techs and Tech Pluses is dropping. That could be due to all sorts of reasons, including upgrades, dropouts, slow renewals, fewer newcomers, etc. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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