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July 15th 03, 05:24 AM

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(Brian Kelly) writes:

Radio Amateur KC2HMZ wrote in message
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On 13 Jul 2003 06:35:28 -0700, (Brian Kelly) wrote:

I don't mean contributions in the sense of Ed's work on the BPL
comments package. One of the rationales proffered over and over again
by the NCI types for deleting the code tests has been that
eliminatinating the code tests will bring flocks of engineers into the
hobby who would then come up with technical contributions, "advance
the state of the art" etc. Maybe I missed it but I don't know of any
such "event" since 1991 when engineers could become hams without a
code test.

I wonder if any of the engineers who worked on developing surface
mount components were hams...or the engineers who took computer CPU
chip clock speeds from mHz into gHz.

You haven't even started, the list of engineering feats pulled off by
engineers who are hams is endless. In every case I know about however
including those you cite they did what they did as professionals
working for money outside the ham bands, not as amateurs. The topic
on the table here is technical innovations which have advanced the
state of the art in the field of RF comms made by engineers working
within their roles as hams. Let's see your list of those. I'd be
particularly interested in your list of ham engineers who wouldn't
have made those contributions if they had to take any code tests.

Let's see a list of YOUR technical accomplishments in radio, Kellie.

Your SINGLE patent is a mechanical one, not even related to radio.

What innovation or push of the SOTA envelope has 1999 graduate
Larrah Roll done? He IS an Extra "heavy" (20 WPM code test).
How about colonel Klunk 8 Minnesota? Stealth engineer N2EY?
The Whiskey zero EX? All long-timers.

They've had LOTS of time to innovate and do envelope pushing.

Shrug.

Oh, and didn't the hams who
happen to be NASA Mission Specialists, some of whom undoubtedly have
engineering degrees and who took ham equipment into space, contribute
anything to the hobby by doing so?

Great PR for ham radio but that's button-punching operational "stuff"
based on aerospace comms technologies which have been under
development since the earliest days of NASA. I haven't heard much
about any mission specialists breaking out soldering irons and doing
any innovtive sorts of things.

Sigh. Begin with the Apollo 13 mission.

Geez, Kellie knows about NASA as much as he knows the electrical
systems of US WW2 vehicles! :-)

LHA

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