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Vshah101 August 5th 03 11:48 PM
The Morse Code Requirement - Is It Really The Reason People Turn
 
From: Dave Heil k8mn

From: Dave Heil

So the activity in the photograph never really took place?

Could be? Don't you know? If you don't, you're just blowing smoke.

I let my membership expire. Its not worth renewing. The way I could verify the
info is to show up at individual events. I've done that and have trouble asking
them the questions I want to ask. I could email a few in the photograph, but I
only remember a few of their names.

I am pretty sure, that if I ask a few people from the photo if they are
interested in a homebrewing project, they will either say they are not
interested or too busy.

Should there be a constant stream of
such projects or do you find it acceptable that such projects take place
from time to time?

If they are grouped in with other activites, that would be fine. These projects
haven't been there at all.

no one in a radio club wants to do what you want

Often true.

you being dismayed
that hams set out for an operating activity and then waste that time by
operating or you being under the impression that your travel to a
domestic location was a "DXpedition".

It was a vacation spot. I wanted to do some of the vacation activies. Yes, that
the Hams did not do vacation activites (other than eating) did come as a
surprise to me.

Vshah101 August 5th 03 11:51 PM
From: (Steve Robeson, K4CAP)

So now this happened BEFORE you were in the club...So
what you ahve been doing all these many months is whining about
something that SUPPOSEDLY happened before you were even there.

The photo of the club members homebrewing was taken before I joined the club.
They have not done that activity since I have joined the club. That photo is
still on the club page, as if thats what the club members are interested in.

Dave Heil August 6th 03 03:57 AM
Vshah101 wrote:

From: Dave Heil k8mn

From: Dave Heil

So the activity in the photograph never really took place?

Could be? Don't you know? If you don't, you're just blowing smoke.

I let my membership expire. Its not worth renewing. The way I could verify the
info is to show up at individual events. I've done that and have trouble asking
them the questions I want to ask. I could email a few in the photograph, but I
only remember a few of their names.

You're tap dancing, Vipul.

I am pretty sure, that if I ask a few people from the photo if they are
interested in a homebrewing project, they will either say they are not
interested or too busy.

Maybe they ARE too busy. Maybe they find you an irritant. We'll never
know.

Should there be a constant stream of
such projects or do you find it acceptable that such projects take place
from time to time?

If they are grouped in with other activites, that would be fine. These projects
haven't been there at all.

Nothing keeps you from homebrewing anything you like except for that
group activities fetish.

no one in a radio club wants to do what you want

Often true.

I'll try to work up some sympathy.

you being dismayed
that hams set out for an operating activity and then waste that time by
operating or you being under the impression that your travel to a
domestic location was a "DXpedition".

It was a vacation spot.

Did you go there with a radio club group intent on operating?

I wanted to do some of the vacation activies.

Oh? Did the club plan vacation activities or did you just assume that
was part of the trip?

Yes, that
the Hams did not do vacation activites (other than eating) did come as a surprise to me.

Far be it from you to actually find out in advance what the group
planned to do. From my perspective, your time in amateur radio has been
one endless litany of complaints.

Dave K8MN

Steve Robeson, K4CAP August 6th 03 02:08 PM
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Vshah101 wrote:

From: Dave Heil

Thats a good challenge. Lets introduce a new person to a Hamfest and see what
that person's impression of Ham radio is.

Fine. Let another club member (not you) show them around so that the
non-ham has a fighting chance to comprehend just what amateur radio is
and what a hamfest is all about.

What I am willing to bet is that if Vippy takes someone to a
Hamfest, the third party is likely to say "What the heck are you
talking about...these are just good people having fun", hence making
Vippy look even more foolish than what he does now.

You begin with false assumptions and attempt to
prove them to be true.

I didn't begin with any assumptions. I noticed these things at Hamfests.

Yes, you did. You've continued to hold those beliefs despite your
having been corrected on numerous occasions by those who have much more
experience than you. Quite often your stories end with you being
shocked by what passes for American culture, you being disappointed that
no one in a radio club wants to do what you want, you being dismayed
that hams set out for an operating activity and then waste that time by
operating or you being under the impression that your travel to a
domestic location was a "DXpedition". You seem to think that you are
just a normal guy in a sea or weirdness. Don't you find that peculiar?


He's got Third World-itis. Comes to America then wonders why
America isn't like the place he left.

Sheeesh.

Steve, K4YZ


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