Jim Hampton wrote: Brian, A 24 MB file and well worth the download time. Good grief, I can't believe the FCC doesn't understand what this is going to do to HF communications. It is easy to believe when you realize that the FCC is now run by a bunch of lawyers who are completely dysfunctional when it comes to radio communications. They wouldn't know a transmitter from a door knob. |
BPL Video On-Line
Brian,
A 24 MB file and well worth the download time. Good grief, I can't believe the FCC doesn't understand what this is going to do to HF communications. Thanks and 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "Brian" wrote in message om... Check out the ARRL site for the BPL video. Brian http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/stor.../08/08/2/?nc=1 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 |
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:58:01 GMT, "Jim Hampton" wrote:
A 24 MB file and well worth the download time. Good grief, I can't believe the FCC doesn't understand what this is going to do to HF communications. Ham Radio and SWL is old technology and BPL will benefit millions of consumers that want broadband Internet access. It is not fair to stop new technology because 100,000 people that are active ham radio operators want to hang on to old 1844 technology called morse code. If ham radio had millions of active HF operators then it could be argued that their bands should be protected in some fashion. But 100,000 vs 130 Million households shows that the smaller group should lose their HF privileges for better technology. Ham radio has been replaced by the Internet. -- The Radio Page Ham, Police Scanner, Shortwave and more. http://www.kilowatt-radio.org/ ...it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority to set brush fires in people's minds. --Samuel Adams |
"Keith" wrote in message ... Ham radio has been replaced by the Internet. -- Great....lets give it a try then..... CQ CQ CQ INTERNET THIS IS KEITHGOOF COMEON............................................ .......................... .................................... Damn no replies.....What did I do wrong Keithgoof? Dan/W4NTI |
Keith,
As soon as you can figure out what BPL is going to do to hi-fidelity stereo am broadcast (you were aware of that, right? This is new technology), you be sure and let the group know. Also, if there is a big solar flare and satellites are temporarily effected, I hope you aren't aboard a sinking ship that depends upon HF (not amateur radio) as a backup. You are aware the ships do use hf, right? I didn't say Morse code, I said HF. Amateur radio only occupies a small portion of HF. I know that the average cber thinks that no one uses HF, but 130 million households should have priority over a sinking ship? Ignorance is curable, stupid isn't. Which are you suffering from? Jim AA2QA "Keith" wrote in message ... .. Ham Radio and SWL is old technology and BPL will benefit millions of consumers that want broadband Internet access. It is not fair to stop new technology because 100,000 people that are active ham radio operators want to hang on to old 1844 technology called morse code. If ham radio had millions of active HF operators then it could be argued that their bands should be protected in some fashion. But 100,000 vs 130 Million households shows that the smaller group should lose their HF privileges for better technology. Ham radio has been replaced by the Internet. -- The Radio Page Ham, Police Scanner, Shortwave and more. http://www.kilowatt-radio.org/ ..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority to set brush fires in people's minds. --Samuel Adams --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 |
"Dick Carroll;" wrote in message
... Jim Hampton wrote: Dan, You'd best check. When 911 hit, I lost AT&T internet for over a week! First thing I noticed late that day was the slowdown in my dialup, which I figured was some unrelated local glitch. But it never did seem to speed up on netwide ccnnects, though I get 42 to 44kbs connects. Makes me wonder what got damaged and where, to cause that. Your brain, and it's called imagination. Kim W5TIT |
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message ...
Keith, As soon as you can figure out what BPL is going to do to hi-fidelity stereo am broadcast What will it do to lo-fidelity AM? This must be the Dem's answer to silencing Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Mike Reagan, Ollie North, Neal Bortz, Gordon Liddy, Mike Savage, Sean Hannity... |
Brian,
I did make a minor mistake. BPL is cut off at 1.8 MHz, thus avoiding the deep pocket broadcasters. I'm still not sure how well the cheap Chinese radios will work with BPL being fed right into the power lines. Then there are HF aeronautical frequencies. I forgot there are HF radio astronomy listening posts. I wonder how well folks will hear WWV at any HF frequency. SWLs will love BPL; forget hearing a lot of foreign broadcasters. This thing is looking very ugly, indeed. BTW, don't blame the Democrats; it is usually the big-money backed Republicans that will sell their own mother to make money for someone who lined their pockets. I noticed that in Japan, they blame the liberal Democrats for running huge deficits and keeping interest rates at near zero. Sounds like what our Republicans are doing, doesn't it? Frankly, I don't trust Republicans or Democrats; both have to serve special interest groups before the common good. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "Brian" wrote in message om... "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Keith, As soon as you can figure out what BPL is going to do to hi-fidelity stereo am broadcast What will it do to lo-fidelity AM? This must be the Dem's answer to silencing Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Mike Reagan, Ollie North, Neal Bortz, Gordon Liddy, Mike Savage, Sean Hannity... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 |
A couple of other questions for you Keith.
BPL uses frequencies between 1.8 and 80 MHz. Question #1: Does 27 MHz CB fall between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Question #2: Do HF radio astronomy posts use frequencies between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Question #3: Does WWV use frequencies between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Question #4: Do HF aeronautical frequencies lie between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Question #5: Do HF foreign broadcasters use frequencies between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Question #6: Will SWLs be impacted by the answer to question #5? Question #7: I see you provide a link to short wave. Just what do you think short wave is? (BIG hint: HF; 3 to 30 MHz, just what is being impacted). Question #8: I see you provide a link to scanners. You are aware that many scanners go down to 30 MHz or so (some lower) and even VHF frequencies to 80 MHz are affected. Question #9: What are the frequencies occupied by the lowest channels of television in the United States? (Hint, channel two runs between 54 MHz and 60 MHz). Do these frequencies lie between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Now think about those questions for a while. These are just simple starter questions; it gets worse the deeper you dig. Now go back to your room and shut the padded door :) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "Keith" wrote in message ... Ham Radio and SWL is old technology and BPL will benefit millions of consumers that want broadband Internet access. It is not fair to stop new technology because 100,000 people that are active ham radio operators want to hang on to old 1844 technology called morse code. If ham radio had millions of active HF operators then it could be argued that their bands should be protected in some fashion. But 100,000 vs 130 Million households shows that the smaller group should lose their HF privileges for better technology. Ham radio has been replaced by the Internet. -- The Radio Page Ham, Police Scanner, Shortwave and more. http://www.kilowatt-radio.org/ ..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority to set brush fires in people's minds. --Samuel Adams --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 |
Frankly, I don't trust Republicans or
Democrats; both have to serve special interest groups before the common good. *GASP* There *are* still people out there who can reason and think!! Thank goodness! Jim Hampton for President! |
In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes: First thing I noticed late that day was the slowdown in my dialup, which I figured was some unrelated local glitch. But it never did seem to speed up on netwide ccnnects, though I get 42 to 44kbs connects. Makes me wonder what got damaged and where, to cause that. Your brain, and it's called imagination. Kim W5TIT Kim: Don't look now, but you replied to Jim Hampton's post, not Dick's! Of course, you were probably just being "imaginative." 73 de Larry, K3LT |
In article , Scott Unit 69
writes: Frankly, I don't trust Republicans or Democrats; both have to serve special interest groups before the common good. *GASP* There *are* still people out there who can reason and think!! Thank goodness! Jim Hampton for President! Jim Weir, WX6RST for Governor of California!!! I am NOT kidding! :-) LHA |
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Brian, I did make a minor mistake. BPL is cut off at 1.8 MHz, thus avoiding the deep pocket broadcasters. I'm still not sure how well the cheap Chinese radios will work with BPL being fed right into the power lines. Then there are HF aeronautical frequencies. I forgot there are HF radio astronomy listening posts. I wonder how well folks will hear WWV at any HF frequency. SWLs will love BPL; forget hearing a lot of foreign broadcasters. This thing is looking very ugly, indeed. BTW, don't blame the Democrats; it is usually the big-money backed Republicans that will sell their own mother to make money for someone who lined their pockets. I noticed that in Japan, they blame the liberal Democrats for running huge deficits and keeping interest rates at near zero. Sounds like what our Republicans are doing, doesn't it? Frankly, I don't trust Republicans or Democrats; both have to serve special interest groups before the common good. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "Brian" wrote in message om... "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Keith, As soon as you can figure out what BPL is going to do to hi-fidelity stereo am broadcast What will it do to lo-fidelity AM? This must be the Dem's answer to silencing Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Mike Reagan, Ollie North, Neal Bortz, Gordon Liddy, Mike Savage, Sean Hannity... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 When you consider the FCC Chairman was raised by Colin....you figure it out. Dan/W4NTI |
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , ospam (Larry Roll K3LT) writes: Of course, you were probably just being "imaginative." YOU do that all the time... Ahh, Ahh, Len! Please remember that you enjoy hanging out here with the hams, fantasizing that you are somehow a part of amateur radio. Dave K8MN |
In article , Jim Hampton
wrote: A couple of other questions for you Keith. BPL uses frequencies between 1.8 and 80 MHz. Question #1: Does 27 MHz CB fall between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Question #2: Do HF radio astronomy posts use frequencies between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Question #3: Does WWV use frequencies between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Question #4: Do HF aeronautical frequencies lie between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Question #5: Do HF foreign broadcasters use frequencies between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Question #6: Will SWLs be impacted by the answer to question #5? Question #7: I see you provide a link to short wave. Just what do you think short wave is? (BIG hint: HF; 3 to 30 MHz, just what is being impacted). Question #8: I see you provide a link to scanners. You are aware that many scanners go down to 30 MHz or so (some lower) and even VHF frequencies to 80 MHz are affected. Question #9: What are the frequencies occupied by the lowest channels of television in the United States? (Hint, channel two runs between 54 MHz and 60 MHz). Do these frequencies lie between 1.8 and 80 MHz? Now think about those questions for a while. These are just simple starter questions; it gets worse the deeper you dig. Now go back to your room and shut the padded door :) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA Jim, to add a few to your list........ Question #10 Do TV Channels 2 through 5 use spectrum in this range? Question #11 Do you know that even with Digital TV that broadcasters will still have to broadcast on the old frequencies until about 80% of the households in their class A & B coverage areas upgrade to digital? This means that VHF over the air brodcast will likely go on well past 1996. Question #12 Do you know that RC aircraft use spectrum in the 70 MHz range for control? Question #13 Did you know that there are literally millions of RC flyers out ther and some of these aircraft tip the scales at over 30 pounds, are powered by actual tubojet engines and can approach 300 MPH? Question #14 Do you really believe that the cutoff frequency will be sharp enough to stop interference to at least the upper part of AM broadcast and the lower part of FM broadcast? 73 George K3UD |
In article , Dave Heil
writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (Larry Roll K3LT) writes: Of course, you were probably just being "imaginative." YOU do that all the time... Ahh, Ahh, Len! Please remember that you enjoy hanging out here with the hams, fantasizing that you are somehow a part of amateur radio. I've NEVER been a "part" of ham radio according to YOUR OWN DEFINITION. YOUR fantasy seems to be stuck in the rut that whatever YOU like "defines" what ALL other radio amateurs do, think, and must act like in some rigid set of rules of YOUR imagination. YOU are NOT an authority or an official anything in US ham radio. YOU are NOT an official in the FCC, federal government, or even that pseudo-governmental organization called ARRL. YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them, make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so. That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis. I've been a professional in radio-electronics since 1952...51 years. I've also been a radio-electronics HOBBYIST since 1947. Hobby activities not for pecuniary interest are AMATEUR activites. If they involved making money at it they would be professional activities. YOU keep insisting one MUST be "licensed" to be an AMATEUR. YOU keep holding up having a license grant is somehow making YOU "better" than anyone not having an amateur license. YOU seem to think that amateur radio is some event of epiphany, of glory and greatness in radio, some kind of nebulous "service" to the nation, transcending anything done in any other radio service. Feel free to indulge in your fantasy. Just remember that your output of constant personal attack of others not accepting your views makes YOU the perverse individual here. I'm just arguing against a morse code test for any US radio license but there is this constant barrage of Personal Attack filth from the fantasyland control freaks diverting everyone from the subjects to the usual flame fest flings that must make your warped mind happy. So far, you haven't "won" anything. Why do you keep on with the same old flame trash? LHA |
In article , Floyd Davidson
writes: (Len Over 21) wrote: In article , (Larry Roll K3LT) writes: Of course, you were probably just being "imaginative." YOU do that all the time... That's some of his *real experience*, not none of that empirical theory stuff! Larrah the Lip should have gotten a job with a fertilizer company, advertising over the Internet...instead of becoming a bus driver with a "Summa Cum Laude BA degree in 'Human Resources'" who had any number of terrific job opportunities waiting for him in personnel departments! THEN I would believe him. :-) LHA |
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (Larry Roll K3LT) writes: Of course, you were probably just being "imaginative." YOU do that all the time... Ahh, Ahh, Len! Please remember that you enjoy hanging out here with the hams, fantasizing that you are somehow a part of amateur radio. I've NEVER been a "part" of ham radio according to YOUR OWN DEFINITION. That's RIGHT. You've NEVER been a part of ham radio. But you can dream. YOUR fantasy seems to be stuck in the rut that whatever YOU like "defines" what ALL other radio amateurs do, think, and must act like in some rigid set of rules of YOUR imagination. Not all all, Len old boy. I realize that others have different fields of interest within amateur radio and they might have different levels of interest in the game. You however, aren't a part of amateur radio. YOU are NOT an authority or an official anything in US ham radio. No I'm not. I'm a participant, a license radio amateur. I have been for decades. YOU are NOT an official in the FCC, federal government, or even that pseudo-governmental organization called ARRL. No, and I don't need to be employed by the FCC. The ARRL is not a pseudo-governmental organization. I am a life member of the ARRL and have been for over 25 years. With small lapses prior to my life membership, I've been a League member for nearly four decades. YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them, make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so. That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis. It is clear that I have as much "authority" to do those things as you. You do them frequently. Are you a control freak? I've been a professional in radio-electronics since 1952...51 years. Bully for you. This group doesn't have anything to do with being a professional in radio or electronics. I've also been a radio-electronics HOBBYIST since 1947. Hobby activities not for pecuniary interest are AMATEUR activites. Part of your radio amateur fantasy? You can claim all the hobbyist time-in-grade you like. Those might be AMATEUR but that doesn't make you a radio amateur. If they involved making money at it they would be professional activities. Maybe you'd like to tell us about your Citizens Band activities having to do with the fact that you are a citizen and that you once played in a band. YOU keep insisting one MUST be "licensed" to be an AMATEUR. YOU keep getting it wrong. For you to be a radio amateur, you must pass a license exam. You haven't. YOU keep holding up having a license grant is somehow making YOU "better" than anyone not having an amateur license. No, YOU keep interpreting my words in that manner. Passing a license exam makes you a radio amateur, a part of ham radio. You haven't passed such an exam and are not a part of amateur radio. YOU seem to think that amateur radio is some event of epiphany, of glory and greatness in radio, some kind of nebulous "service" to the nation, transcending anything done in any other radio service. That is incorrect. It doesn't matter what you've done in any other radio service. If you want to participate in amateur radio, you'll pass a license exam. You haven't done so. Feel free to indulge in your fantasy. Just remember that your output of constant personal attack of others not accepting your views makes YOU the perverse individual here. You're a million laughs, Leonard old chap (or chapped). You're the king of personal attacks and the grand poobah of rejected views. To top it all off, you aren't involved in amateur radio whatsoever. I'm just arguing against a morse code test for any US radio license but there is this constant barrage of Personal Attack filth from the fantasyland control freaks diverting everyone from the subjects to the usual flame fest flings that must make your warped mind happy. Filth? You must have come across some of Roger Wiseman's material. You've never "just argued" nor have you limited your agenda to removal of the morse test. So far, you haven't "won" anything. Why do you keep on with the same old flame trash? I thought you were supposed to be eating me for breakfast. Aren't you a little touchy for one who uses those who disagree with him as playthings? Floyd must have gotten it wrong. Dave K8MN |
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Floyd Davidson writes: (Len Over 21) wrote: In article , (Larry Roll K3LT) writes: Of course, you were probably just being "imaginative." YOU do that all the time... That's some of his *real experience*, not none of that empirical theory stuff! Larrah the Lip should have gotten a job with a fertilizer company, advertising over the Internet...instead of becoming a bus driver with a "Summa Cum Laude BA degree in 'Human Resources'" who had any number of terrific job opportunities waiting for him in personnel departments! THEN I would believe him. :-) Did you check to see whether you have authority for name-calling, insulting and demeaning those who disagree with you? Dave K8MN |
In article , Dave Heil
writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Floyd Davidson writes: (Len Over 21) wrote: In article , (Larry Roll K3LT) writes: Of course, you were probably just being "imaginative." YOU do that all the time... That's some of his *real experience*, not none of that empirical theory stuff! Larrah the Lip should have gotten a job with a fertilizer company, advertising over the Internet...instead of becoming a bus driver with a "Summa Cum Laude BA degree in 'Human Resources'" who had any number of terrific job opportunities waiting for him in personnel departments! THEN I would believe him. :-) Did you check to see whether you have authority for name-calling, insulting and demeaning those who disagree with you? I do. It's called the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Ever hear of it? The First Amendment doesn't give special dispensation to long-time licensed radio amateurs. Talking down to folks is not what this newsgroup is about...but you keep trying to play radio god. Poor baby. Big hero "I was in 'Nam" radio god can't stand ordinary fire fights...cries and carries on when he is subjected to return fire. Quit acting like an Oberst in the Amatur SchutzStaffel (A.S.S.) and maybe all could discuss SUBJECTS instead of personalities. LHA |
In article , Dave Heil
writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (Larry Roll K3LT) writes: Of course, you were probably just being "imaginative." YOU do that all the time... Ahh, Ahh, Len! Please remember that you enjoy hanging out here with the hams, fantasizing that you are somehow a part of amateur radio. I've NEVER been a "part" of ham radio according to YOUR OWN DEFINITION. That's RIGHT. You've NEVER been a part of ham radio. But you can dream. I do not "dream" of having a radio license. I got one of those 47 years ago. YOUR fantasy seems to be stuck in the rut that whatever YOU like "defines" what ALL other radio amateurs do, think, and must act like in some rigid set of rules of YOUR imagination. Not all all, Len old boy. I realize that others have different fields of interest within amateur radio and they might have different levels of interest in the game. You however, aren't a part of amateur radio. I'm not interested in either getting or dreaming about any AMATEUR license. My interest is eliminating the morse code test for any radio license in the USA. YOU are NOT an authority or an official anything in US ham radio. No I'm not. I'm a participant, a license radio amateur. I have been for decades. Whoopee. Do we crown you emperor or something? Maybe your nobility will get you a job at the FCC where you can "rule" over amateur radio. How about at ARRL? All those years of AMATEUR experience ought to put you in the Executive President position...right behind another Dave now holding Executive President For Life. shrug YOU are NOT an official in the FCC, federal government, or even that pseudo-governmental organization called ARRL. No, and I don't need to be employed by the FCC. Oh, my, assuming the mantle of leadership without authorization?!? The ARRL is not a pseudo-governmental organization. Tsk, tsk, tsk...then they've been deceiving everyone with all their "district directors elected by democratic action" and all that! I am a life member of the ARRL and have been for over 25 years. With small lapses prior to my life membership, I've been a League member for nearly four decades. Wonderful. I'm only a life member of the human race and a citizen of the United States of America. Nothing can compare to "life membership" in ARRL! YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them, make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so. That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis. It is clear that I have as much "authority" to do those things as you. You do them frequently. Are you a control freak? I'm just trying to discuss SUBJECTS, not personalities. You keep on endlessly attempting to put down and humilate anyone who won't agree with you. Then you get all bent out of shape whenever someone doesn't bow down to your majestic whatever and continue with the put-down and humiliation attempts. I've been a professional in radio-electronics since 1952...51 years. Bully for you. This group doesn't have anything to do with being a professional in radio or electronics. Well then, you just have me LOCKED OUT of the newsgroup, why don't you? Make this newsgroup some kind of "ARRL South" and all you morsemen can sit around giving each other high-fives and claiming greatness in the very closed, closeted elite area of your own making. The rest of the world won't care much since the professionals in radio are busy keeping world communications going around the clock. "If thine eye offend thee, put it out." I've also been a radio-electronics HOBBYIST since 1947. Hobby activities not for pecuniary interest are AMATEUR activites. Part of your radio amateur fantasy? You can claim all the hobbyist time-in-grade you like. Those might be AMATEUR but that doesn't make you a radio amateur. Sigh...the credentialist is stuck on a one-note theme. You've carried your radio god personna so long you've gotten to believe that the only radio is amateur radio. If they involved making money at it they would be professional activities. Maybe you'd like to tell us about your Citizens Band activities having to do with the fact that you are a citizen and that you once played in a band. You are in a delerium again. It's an old model and doesn't work well. Put it out of its misery. Bad try at some misdirection into more personality plonking. It doesn't work. YOU keep insisting one MUST be "licensed" to be an AMATEUR. YOU keep getting it wrong. For you to be a radio amateur, you must pass a license exam. You haven't. Let's see...according to Heilian definitions, only LICENSED radio amateurs are AMATEURS. That would make every other radio hobbyist "professional?" Not so. Your Beeperitis has led you off on another merry morse chase of illogic. YOU keep holding up having a license grant is somehow making YOU "better" than anyone not having an amateur license. No, YOU keep interpreting my words in that manner. There's no need for "interpreters." What you keep harping about is just the same old judge-jury-executioner bull**** you've always used. It doesn't work. Fix it. Remember, you are the self-styled Radio God. Passing a license exam makes you a radio amateur, a part of ham radio. You haven't passed such an exam and are not a part of amateur radio. I'm not interested in "becoming part of amateur radio." You don't seem to understand the concept. [Radio gods are like that] I'm just trying to get the morse code test off of all US radio license examinations. Maybe you ought to review the FCC rules and regulations regarding Internet access. You cannot issue any "NAL" for someone objecting to your self-proclaimed "authority" or "judgement" over who can and who cannot post in newsgroups. YOU seem to think that amateur radio is some event of epiphany, of glory and greatness in radio, some kind of nebulous "service" to the nation, transcending anything done in any other radio service. That is incorrect. It doesn't matter what you've done in any other radio service. If you want to participate in amateur radio, you'll pass a license exam. You haven't done so. You are stuck on this topic, aren't you Kolonel Klunk? Best you get very busy and ENFORCE the newsgroup then, ONLY permitting licensed radio amateurs from communicating anything in here. Your vigilante "enforcement" hasn't been working...yet you keep whining and carrying on, using the same old tired arguments. You're a million laughs, Leonard old chap (or chapped). You're the king of personal attacks and the grand poobah of rejected views. To top it all off, you aren't involved in amateur radio whatsoever. Poor baby. Still thinking the First Amendment only applies to licensed radio amateurs? I thought you were supposed to be eating me for breakfast. ??? I'm not "supposed" to be anything you say I am...you are not only disagreeable but indigestible. Go back to your fantasies of greatness in radio and your authorized judgement of all who disagree with your holiness' views. You are wasting everyone's time. LHA |
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"Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote in message
om... (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... I'm not interested in either getting or dreaming about any AMATEUR license. Then the only OTHER reason for your lurking in an Amateur Radio related newsgroup is trolling and antagonizing the participants. Right in there with no less than a couple of others I can think of!! ;) Kim W5TIT |
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Floyd Davidson writes: (Len Over 21) wrote: In article , (Larry Roll K3LT) writes: Of course, you were probably just being "imaginative." YOU do that all the time... That's some of his *real experience*, not none of that empirical theory stuff! Larrah the Lip should have gotten a job with a fertilizer company, advertising over the Internet...instead of becoming a bus driver with a "Summa Cum Laude BA degree in 'Human Resources'" who had any number of terrific job opportunities waiting for him in personnel departments! THEN I would believe him. :-) Did you check to see whether you have authority for name-calling, insulting and demeaning those who disagree with you? I do. It's called the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Ever hear of it? Sure I have, Len. But then you just wrote "YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them, make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so. That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis." I didn't understand that you reserved the right to do those particular things only unto yourself. Can you tell us why the Constitution protects only you? The First Amendment doesn't give special dispensation to long-time licensed radio amateurs. I think I have it now. It's only for those non-radio amateurs who get their jollies by playing Phineas T. Bluster in an amateur radio newsgroup. Talking down to folks is not what this newsgroup is about...but you keep trying to play radio god. I'm waiting for you to decide if I am a radio god or I'm not a radio god. When you finalize your decision, I'll formulate a view. Poor baby. Big hero "I was in 'Nam" radio god can't stand ordinary fire fights...cries and carries on when he is subjected to return fire. Is THIS the part where you're eating me for breakfast? Quit acting like an Oberst in the Amatur SchutzStaffel (A.S.S.) and maybe all could discuss SUBJECTS instead of personalities. Are you waiting for others to do as you say and not as you do before adopting your own advice, Mr. Bluster? Dave K8MN |
Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (Larry Roll K3LT) writes: Of course, you were probably just being "imaginative." YOU do that all the time... Ahh, Ahh, Len! Please remember that you enjoy hanging out here with the hams, fantasizing that you are somehow a part of amateur radio. I've NEVER been a "part" of ham radio according to YOUR OWN DEFINITION. That's RIGHT. You've NEVER been a part of ham radio. But you can dream. I do not "dream" of having a radio license. The newsgroup deals with amateur radio. I got one of those 47 years ago. No, you never obtained an amateur radio license. The one you got can't be used under Part 97. YOUR fantasy seems to be stuck in the rut that whatever YOU like "defines" what ALL other radio amateurs do, think, and must act like in some rigid set of rules of YOUR imagination. Not all all, Len old boy. I realize that others have different fields of interest within amateur radio and they might have different levels of interest in the game. You however, aren't a part of amateur radio. I'm not interested in either getting or dreaming about any AMATEUR license. Really? What about your decades-long interest? What about the "Extra right out of the box"? My interest is eliminating the morse code test for any radio license in the USA. To what end? You aren't involved. YOU are NOT an authority or an official anything in US ham radio. No I'm not. I'm a participant, a license radio amateur. I have been for decades. Whoopee. Do we crown you emperor or something? We? Got a Vibroplex in your pocket? YOU don't do anything. You don't have a role in amateur radio. Maybe your nobility will get you a job at the FCC where you can "rule" over amateur radio. How would that effect you? How about at ARRL? All those years of AMATEUR experience ought to put you in the Executive President position...right behind another Dave now holding Executive President For Life. shrug Well, kindly old gent, I turned down such a position in 1975. The Leagure really doesn't pay very well. Besides, why would that interest you? YOU are NOT an official in the FCC, federal government, or even that pseudo-governmental organization called ARRL. No, and I don't need to be employed by the FCC. Oh, my, assuming the mantle of leadership without authorization?!? I don't need FCC permission to remind you that you having nothing whatsoever to do with amateur radio. The ARRL is not a pseudo-governmental organization. Tsk, tsk, tsk...then they've been deceiving everyone with all their "district directors elected by democratic action" and all that! You mean you've been deceived by the League? I don't think there's been any misinterpretation of the League's role by others. Why should any of this interest you. You aren't an ARRL member and you aren't a radio amateur. I am a life member of the ARRL and have been for over 25 years. With small lapses prior to my life membership, I've been a League member for nearly four decades. Wonderful. I'm only a life member of the human race and a citizen of the United States of America. Would it be too much for you to offer proof of that first claim? Nothing can compare to "life membership" in ARRL! How would you know? YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them, make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so. That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis. It is clear that I have as much "authority" to do those things as you. You do them frequently. Are you a control freak? I'm just trying to discuss SUBJECTS, not personalities. Your record here says otherwise. You keep on endlessly attempting to put down and humilate anyone who won't agree with you. Remind us again of your history here. Then you get all bent out of shape whenever someone doesn't bow down to your majestic whatever and continue with the put-down and humiliation attempts. Again, what you've written sounds awfully much like your actions, Len. I've been a professional in radio-electronics since 1952...51 years. Bully for you. This group doesn't have anything to do with being a professional in radio or electronics. Well then, you just have me LOCKED OUT of the newsgroup, why don't you? It isn't necessary. If its all the same to you, I have much more fun the way things are going at present. Make this newsgroup some kind of "ARRL South" and all you morsemen can sit around giving each other high-fives and claiming greatness in the very closed, closeted elite area of your own making. I still don't follow your fixation on morse, the ARRL and the like. You don't belong to the ARRL. You aren't being forced to use morse. As a matter of fact, you aren't a radio amateur. The rest of the world won't care much since the professionals in radio are busy keeping world communications going around the clock. "If thine eye offend thee, put it out." It really makes little difference what the "professionals" are doin in radio. I have quite a bit of experience in the "professional" side of radio. This group happens to deal with amateur radio. You have nothing to do with amateur radio. I've also been a radio-electronics HOBBYIST since 1947. Hobby activities not for pecuniary interest are AMATEUR activites. Part of your radio amateur fantasy? You can claim all the hobbyist time-in-grade you like. Those might be AMATEUR but that doesn't make you a radio amateur. Sigh...the credentialist is stuck on a one-note theme. Nope. Just correcting your incorrect statement. You've carried your radio god personna so long you've gotten to believe that the only radio is amateur radio. Not at all. I simply recognize that this particular newsgroup has nothing to do with professional radio operation or policy. If they involved making money at it they would be professional activities. Maybe you'd like to tell us about your Citizens Band activities having to do with the fact that you are a citizen and that you once played in a band. You are in a delerium again. It's an old model and doesn't work well. Put it out of its misery. Bad try at some misdirection into more personality plonking. It doesn't work. It was sarcasm, Leonard. It was directed to your babbling about being a radio hobbyist at the amateur level and attempting to equate that to amateur radio. YOU keep insisting one MUST be "licensed" to be an AMATEUR. YOU keep getting it wrong. For you to be a radio amateur, you must pass a license exam. You haven't. Let's see...according to Heilian definitions, only LICENSED radio amateurs are AMATEURS. Actually you've managed to screw that one up too. Only those who have passed an amateur radio license exam become licensed radio amateurs, permitted to operate under FCC Part 97. That would make every other radio hobbyist "professional?" Not so. Your Beeperitis has led you off on another merry morse chase of illogic. The illogic and confusion are yours. YOU keep holding up having a license grant is somehow making YOU "better" than anyone not having an amateur license. No, YOU keep interpreting my words in that manner. There's no need for "interpreters." What you keep harping about is just the same old judge-jury-executioner bull**** you've always used. As long as you have some confusion over whether or not you're a radio amateur, interpretation is needed. It doesn't work. Fix it. Remember, you are the self-styled Radio God. Is that your final answer? Passing a license exam makes you a radio amateur, a part of ham radio. You haven't passed such an exam and are not a part of amateur radio. I'm not interested in "becoming part of amateur radio." Just a few posts ago you told us that you were involved in radio as an amateur and you seemed to believe that made you a radio amateur. You don't seem to understand the concept. [Radio gods are like that] You don't seem to give your dieties much in the way of power. I'm just trying to get the morse code test off of all US radio license examinations. To what end? You aren't involved. Maybe you ought to review the FCC rules and regulations regarding Internet access. You cannot issue any "NAL" for someone objecting to your self-proclaimed "authority" or "judgement" over who can and who cannot post in newsgroups. Really? Do you know anyone who tried that? YOU seem to think that amateur radio is some event of epiphany, of glory and greatness in radio, some kind of nebulous "service" to the nation, transcending anything done in any other radio service. That is incorrect. It doesn't matter what you've done in any other radio service. If you want to participate in amateur radio, you'll pass a license exam. You haven't done so. You are stuck on this topic, aren't you Kolonel Klunk? "YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them, make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so. That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis." --Leonard H. Anderson Best you get very busy and ENFORCE the newsgroup then, ONLY permitting licensed radio amateurs from communicating anything in here. You've commented. So what? Your vigilante "enforcement" hasn't been working...yet you keep whining and carrying on, using the same old tired arguments. Enforcement? Whining? I'm doing neither. I'm responding to your posts in much the same manner which you use with others. Sorry that you don't like it when it is directed your way. You're a million laughs, Leonard old chap (or chapped). You're the king of personal attacks and the grand poobah of rejected views. To top it all off, you aren't involved in amateur radio whatsoever. Poor baby. Still thinking the First Amendment only applies to licensed radio amateurs? Nothing in the First Amendment requires my agreement with your views or mandates that I keep mum when you state them. Your First Amendment rights do not outweigh mine. I thought you were supposed to be eating me for breakfast. ??? I'm not "supposed" to be anything you say I am...you are not only disagreeable but indigestible. I didn't say it. Floyd said it. He appears to have been mistaken. Go back to your fantasies of greatness in radio and your authorized judgement of all who disagree with your holiness' views. You are wasting everyone's time. No one forced you to reply to my post or even to read it. You're a captive of the N2EY profile. Dave K8MN |
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Len Over 21 wrote: I do not "dream" of having a radio license. The newsgroup deals with amateur radio. I got one of those 47 years ago. No, you never obtained an amateur radio license. The one you got can't be used under Part 97. Nor can it be used in any other radio service without a STATION license under which he can operate. No station license...No operating... Every other radio service is going to specify channels of operation, modes, etc. An Amateur license grants liberties Lennie can only dream of. The only thing he CAN do that Amateurs can't is bill for his servies as an operator or repairman. Of course there's always Part 15 and Part 95... YOUR fantasy seems to be stuck in the rut that whatever YOU like "defines" what ALL other radio amateurs do, think, and must act like in some rigid set of rules of YOUR imagination. Not all all, Len old boy. I realize that others have different fields of interest within amateur radio and they might have different levels of interest in the game. You however, aren't a part of amateur radio. I'm not interested in either getting or dreaming about any AMATEUR license. Really? What about your decades-long interest? What about the "Extra right out of the box"? Dave, you didn't expect this Sir Creepy to be honest AND witty, did you...?!?! I am a life member of the ARRL and have been for over 25 years. With small lapses prior to my life membership, I've been a League member for nearly four decades. Wonderful. I'm only a life member of the human race and a citizen of the United States of America. Would it be too much for you to offer proof of that first claim? Don't do THAT, Dave...it will just give His Putziness an excuse to make another "mistake" with his e mails or attachments. I'm just trying to discuss SUBJECTS, not personalities. Your record here says otherwise. Ain't THAT the truth! I've been a professional in radio-electronics since 1952...51 years. Bully for you. This group doesn't have anything to do with being a professional in radio or electronics. Well then, you just have me LOCKED OUT of the newsgroup, why don't you? It isn't necessary. If its all the same to you, I have much more fun the way things are going at present. Beats going to the gym for exercise! Our own "virtual" punchbag! Or is it Punch and Judy? It doesn't work. Fix it. Remember, you are the self-styled Radio God. Is that your final answer? Funny how I've NEVER seen ANYONE in this NG assume that role, but Lennie keeps ASSIGNING it...Hmmmm....Maybe this is his Golden Calf...?!?! You are stuck on this topic, aren't you Kolonel Klunk? "YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them, make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so. That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis." --Leonard H. Anderson I love how Lennie keeps dropping himself into the "pot/kettle/black" mold. He LOVES to accuse others of doing exactly what HE does. Sheeesh. I didn't say it. Floyd said it. He appears to have been mistaken. Go back to your fantasies of greatness in radio and your authorized judgement of all who disagree with your holiness' views. You are wasting everyone's time. No one forced you to reply to my post or even to read it. You're a captive of the N2EY profile. Captive...?!?! Naaah...I'd say POSTER BOY! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote:
(Len Over 21) wrote: Dave Heil writes: Did you check to see whether you have authority for name-calling, insulting and demeaning those who disagree with you? I do. It's called the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Ever hear of it? Are YOU aware that it applies to the GOVERNMENT, not to you? The authority?? You'd better go read it again. It doesn't authorize the government. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: The First Amendment doesn't apply to you either, Lennie. It applies to the GOVERNMENT being able to suppress the media. Since 1791 the First Amendment of the United States Consitution reads: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." This still applies to the Government...Not you. It says CONGRESS shall not do these things. It should be clear to all thinking persons (psychotics aren't able to think rationally) that free speech is NOT "illegal." Of course it's not. Since CONGRESS is prohibited, by the Constitution, from doing exactly that. This particular forum is public access and unmoderated. You desire closure to the public and elitism...CONTROL. And youa re, once again, blatantly lying. You've already attempted to specifically stop MY "petition for a redress of grievances" on 25 January 1999. That's on the public FCC record. Nope...I just asked them to ignore you since your purpose is to impose certain rules and regulations on a radio service for which YOU have no vested interest and wish to do nothing but harm. Symptoms of your psychosis have been growing for four years. It is time you got some proper psychiatric care and return to being normal...if medical science is advanced enough for that. Hmmmmm...What you ahve done here is make a medical diagnoisis. I ONCE AGAIN ask you from which entity YOU were rendered a license to practice medicine...?!?! Go back to your fantasies of greatness in radio and your authorized judgement of all who disagree with your holiness' views. Let's make the same offer to you, Lennie. Go back to Japan in 1953, and go back to your days of glory and greatness at "Ham Radio Magazine" and Raytheon, et al, where you made almost no discernable impact on anything "radio" related at all. I have NO desire to "go back to Japan of 1953" since I was there then and up until 1956. It was interesting. The task was challenging and interesting and I met that and succeeded. That was your one and only venture to HF radio. It was NOT Amateur Radio. I had NO "glory and greatness" at Ham Radio magazine, was just a contributor and an Associate Editor. Interesting and challenging again and (from the compensation) little more than an extension of ongoing hobby activites. And it was the only way you'sd ever see YOUR name in print in ANY electronics forum with your name as a byline. I was never employed by Raytheon. Raytheon's old Santa Barbara, CA, division came up with the RadaRange, the progenitor of today's ubiquitous microwave oven. Raytheon sold all the rights to that to Amana Corporation of Amana, Iowa. My wife and I visited there in 2001, two years after buying an Amana natural gas range and overhead microwave oven and vent fan for a complete makeover of our kitchen in 1999. pSycho pSteve seems lost on the concept that I actually DID what I've said I did...and have the documentation and still-living witnesses to that fact. All pSycho pSteve can do is attempt character assassination for his own aberrated ends...he NEVER had anything to compare with that. As of today you are still not a licensed Amateur and have zero point zero experience as a licensed operator. Poor thing. Steve, K4yz |
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