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ARRL you can Kiss my $39.00 a Year Good Bye
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*For example, the person that leaves ARRL (which supports a wide range of
activities) and joins FISTs (which has a narrow focus of activities). My interest are varied, but ARRL is doing a lousy job of trying to stop this Dumbing Down. My only reason for joining Fists is they have the guts to tell it like its. |
"hiram's cat" wrote in message .. .
All the ARRL ever was, is, and ever will be is a publishing company with a 501(c)3 tax exemption that wraps itself in fake ivy leaves of academia. Another typical "non-profit" that milks donations from suckers with trinkets and who's Corporate Board and Executive Staff members skim 50% right-off-the-top for "administrative expenses". I dropped them, my SCM, and my membership way back in 1984 and I've never regreted my decision. Yet another anonymous scumbag with libelous accusations and no proof to offer. Considering the IMPROVEMENTS that have occured in the ARRL since 1984, I'd say your departure was beneficial. Lord knows no one here has missed you. Back under your rock, worthless troll. Steve, K4YZ |
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(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message om... "hiram's cat" wrote in message .. . All the ARRL ever was, is, and ever will be is a publishing company with a 501(c)3 tax exemption that wraps itself in fake ivy leaves of academia. Another typical "non-profit" that milks donations from suckers with trinkets and who's Corporate Board and Executive Staff members skim 50% right-off-the-top for "administrative expenses". I dropped them, my SCM, and my membership way back in 1984 and I've never regreted my decision. Yet another anonymous scumbag with libelous accusations and no proof to offer. Considering the IMPROVEMENTS that have occured in the ARRL since 1984, I'd say your departure was beneficial. Lord knows no one here has missed you. Back under your rock, worthless troll. Steve, K4YZ Wow, Steve. An anonymous poster posts something you agree with and you act like best friends. Another anonymous poster posts something you don't agree with and you go psycho. What's "psycho" about it, Brain, or are you simply working off of the same correspondence school degree that Lennie does? Why is that? Perhaps because the other poster didn't make a lot of assinine assertions that are not substantiated by facts, Brain. You may refer to "fact" in Websters to find out what they are, Brain...You DO seem to have a problem with the concept. Steve, K4YZ |
"Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" wrote in message news:v_R5b.268780$Oz4.71087@rwcrnsc54...
I'm sure he won't be able to come up with anything unless he was thinking of counting raising dues, and pushing for lower standards as improvements. I'll watch while you TRY to show us where the ARRL has been "pushing for lower standards as improvements", Vince. Or shall I heap that expectation on the same pile of unanswered questions along with all of Lennie's...?!?! There's the Special Services Clubs, numerous scholarships for youth and educational programs. The recent Emergency Services programs that are not only being funded but RE-approved for even further funding in the Homeland Defense role bear even further evidence of the support that ARRL has provided Amateur Radio. So...Thee's three right off the top of my head. I don't see any other Amateur "organization" that is promoting these programs as aggressively as the ARRL. Steve, K4YZ |
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com... Jim has repeatedly pointed out where the ARRL proposed fewer license classes and a lower code speed for full priveleges during the last restructuring, which he always equates with lower standards. That's Jim;s OPINION, Brain. Other than that, you have not satisfied the question of how the ARRL has allegedly pushed for "lower standards". Steve, K4YZ I don't necessarily understand how Jim arrived at his OPINION, but you're welcome to ask him, if you've the guts to do so. I'm always amazed at how you PCTA give each other passes on every damned thing. Go ahead, ask him. |
I heard from the latest audio news that more nations
around the world are dropping thier morse code testing requirements. makes you wonder if the VEC's who petitioned to return a higher code speed test for extra class hams are just doing so to fight the tide. Clint KB5ZHT -- -- Former New York Mayor Ed Koch, self proclaimed DEMOCRAT, SHORTLY after the 9/11 attack- "...everybody has a right to have thier own oppinion... ...i'm even a Democrat... ...but in this time of trouble, we need to show the world our resolve and we're united, and we should NOT denigrate the president." -- Tom Daschle believes in the rich paying taxes.... ....um, except for HIMSELF... http://sibbyonline.blogspot.com/2003...e_archive.html -- If you sympathize with terrorists & middle eastern tyrants, vote for liberals... -- "Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote in message om... (Brian) wrote in message . com... Jim has repeatedly pointed out where the ARRL proposed fewer license classes and a lower code speed for full priveleges during the last restructuring, which he always equates with lower standards. That's Jim;s OPINION, Brain. Other than that, you have not satisfied the question of how the ARRL has allegedly pushed for "lower standards". Steve, K4YZ |
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com... (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message om... "hiram's cat" wrote in message .. . All the ARRL ever was, is, and ever will be is a publishing company with a 501(c)3 tax exemption that wraps itself in fake ivy leaves of academia. Another typical "non-profit" that milks donations from suckers with trinkets and who's Corporate Board and Executive Staff members skim 50% right-off-the-top for "administrative expenses". I dropped them, my SCM, and my membership way back in 1984 and I've never regreted my decision. Yet another anonymous scumbag with libelous accusations and no proof to offer. Considering the IMPROVEMENTS that have occured in the ARRL since 1984, I'd say your departure was beneficial. Lord knows no one here has missed you. Back under your rock, worthless troll. Steve, K4YZ Wow, Steve. An anonymous poster posts something you agree with and you act like best friends. Another anonymous poster posts something you don't agree with and you go psycho. What's "psycho" about it, Brain, or are you simply working off of the same correspondence school degree that Lennie does? One is wholesome and righteous, the other is scum that should slither back under a rock. That's psycho. Why is that? Perhaps because the other poster didn't make a lot of assinine assertions that are not substantiated by facts, Brain. The ARS has improved since 1984. That's plain for everyone to see. You may refer to "fact" in Websters to find out what they are, Brain...You DO seem to have a problem with the concept. Not at all. As Ronald Reagan said, "Facts are stupid things." |
"Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" wrote in message et... "Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in : I heard from the latest audio news that more nations around the world are dropping thier morse code testing requirements. makes you wonder if the VEC's who petitioned to return a higher code speed test for extra class hams are just doing so to fight the tide. Clint KB5ZHT The ARRL has a destructive agenda. If they cared about amateur radio as much as for the amount of money their bank account, they would have said something at the last world conference. It's all lip service and lies to try and get hams like me to hold our piece and hope we don't feel like we're being lied to again. Lied to about what? As to the last "world conference" (presumably meaning WRC2003), you should know the ARRL had NO voice in the conference as they could only be there as an observer. The conference was a representation of individual country's regulatory administrations. Cheers, Bill K2UNK |
"Dick Carroll" wrote in message ... "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" wrote: "Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in : I heard from the latest audio news that more nations around the world are dropping thier morse code testing requirements. makes you wonder if the VEC's who petitioned to return a higher code speed test for extra class hams are just doing so to fight the tide. Clint KB5ZHT The ARRL has a destructive agenda. If they cared about amateur radio as much as for the amount of money their bank account, they would have said something at the last world conference. It's all lip service and lies to try and get hams like me to hold our piece and hope we don't feel like we're being lied to again. No, Vince, I believe you're way off base here. ARRL has a real problem-It wants to do what is best for ham radio, and divining what that is is not a simple chore, by any means. Then you have the other facets of the problem, which include but certainly are not limited to, the vast array of opinions among hams, members and otherwise, then there's the FCC and their own budget constraints, etc, etc etc. But NO, you'll never get me to believe that ARRL as an organization has anything but the best interests of ham radio at heart. I do believe that at times they get a little off course, but they seem to manage to make the necessary corrections. Dick I'm in shock, as I fully agree with Dick on that. Cheers, Bill K2UNK |
"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message ... well, I was speaking mostly about the nations that seem to fight us tooth-and-nail on most issues we bring before them, particularly the UN... my point was that I wouldn't expect a sympathetic ear on thier end if they all have come to an agreement amongst themselves and WE are the outstanding oppinion. That is to say, if the reports i've heard and that are echoed in here that many nations are dropping thier code requirements, and more are planning on doing the same, and of ALL countries to fight it the USA tries, I wouldn't hold my breath. Each country is free to do as their respective governing bodies wish to do. There is no "fighting" involved. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message Perhaps because the other poster didn't make a lot of assinine assertions that are not substantiated by facts, Brain. The ARS has improved since 1984. That's plain for everyone to see. Then where does all this "Ham Radio Is Going To Hell" traffic come from, Brain? Mostly from trolls, you and Lennie. You may refer to "fact" in Websters to find out what they are, Brain...You DO seem to have a problem with the concept. Not at all. As Ronald Reagan said, "Facts are stupid things." I'd expect notning less from you, Brain...You're nothing if not consistent. Thanks. Steve, K4YZ |
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com... (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message Perhaps because the other poster didn't make a lot of assinine assertions that are not substantiated by facts, Brain. The ARS has improved since 1984. That's plain for everyone to see. Then where does all this "Ham Radio Is Going To Hell" traffic come from, Brain? Mostly from trolls, you and Lennie. You may refer to "fact" in Websters to find out what they are, Brain...You DO seem to have a problem with the concept. Not at all. As Ronald Reagan said, "Facts are stupid things." I'd expect notning less from you, Brain...You're nothing if not consistent. Thanks. Steve, K4YZ Steve, not my fault that Ron said it, and I liked Ron. But his quote applied in your declaration that amateur radio has not improved since 1984. That is not fact. |
Subject: ARRL you can Kiss my $39.00 a Year Good Bye
From: (Brian) Date: 9/13/03 8:25 AM Central Daylight Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message .com... (Brian) wrote in message .com... Jim has repeatedly pointed out where the ARRL proposed fewer license classes and a lower code speed for full priveleges during the last restructuring, which he always equates with lower standards. That's Jim;s OPINION, Brain. Other than that, you have not satisfied the question of how the ARRL has allegedly pushed for "lower standards". Steve, K4YZ I don't necessarily understand how Jim arrived at his OPINION, but you're welcome to ask him, if you've the guts to do so. Plenty of "guts" here, Brain, and I have re-read many of Jim's posts looking for something that equates to "no code = lower standards". Haven't found it yet. I'm always amazed at how you PCTA give each other passes on every damned thing. What "pass", Brain...?!?! Mean like how YOU let LENNIE "pass" with use of snide remarks, blatant lies, profanity and obvious misdirection of his posts, but then accuse others of the same thing without comment...?!?! Go ahead, ask him. Why do I need to ask him anything when his comments are archived for all to read...?!?! Now...about those T5 logs and your "authorization" to oeprate in Somalia? Steve, K4YZ |
(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: ARRL you can Kiss my $39.00 a Year Good Bye From: (Brian) Date: 9/13/03 8:25 AM Central Daylight Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message .com... (Brian) wrote in message . com... Jim has repeatedly pointed out where the ARRL proposed fewer license classes and a lower code speed for full priveleges during the last restructuring, which he always equates with lower standards. That's Jim;s OPINION, Brain. Other than that, you have not satisfied the question of how the ARRL has allegedly pushed for "lower standards". Steve, K4YZ I don't necessarily understand how Jim arrived at his OPINION, but you're welcome to ask him, if you've the guts to do so. Plenty of "guts" here, Brain, and I have re-read many of Jim's posts looking for something that equates to "no code = lower standards". Haven't found it yet. Selective reading. I'm always amazed at how you PCTA give each other passes on every damned thing. What "pass", Brain...?!?! Like, "I have re-read many of Jim's posts looking for something that equates to "no code = lower standards"." That pass. Haven't found it yet. Mean like how YOU let LENNIE "pass" with use of snide remarks, blatant lies, profanity and obvious misdirection of his posts, but then accuse others of the same thing without comment...?!?! You don't seem to like that much, do you? Go ahead, ask him. Why do I need to ask him anything when his comments are archived for all to read...?!?! Since you appear unable to find it on your own, you might want to check with Jim. Now...about those T5 logs and your "authorization" to oeprate in Somalia? Correct. I was authorized. |
(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Mean like how YOU let LENNIE "pass" with use of snide remarks, blatant lies, profanity and obvious misdirection of his posts, but then accuse others of the same thing without comment...?!?! You don't seem to like that much, do you? It's not a matter of what I like or don't like, MinnieLennie. You are a person wrought with confusion and an odd sense of what you consider appropriate. You publically announce your afinity for a person known to be a pathological liar and then go about calling other people names and making unsubstantiated allegations about them. Pretty silly, Brain. If you enjoy placing your private parts in publically operated pencil sharpeners, be my guest...but don't whine about it when your parts get ground up when someone else turns the crank (pun intended) Now...about those T5 logs and your "authorization" to operate in Somalia? Correct. I was authorized. Not according to the evidence you've supplied, you weren't. Steve, K4YZ |
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message om...
(Brian) wrote in message . com... (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Mean like how YOU let LENNIE "pass" with use of snide remarks, blatant lies, profanity and obvious misdirection of his posts, but then accuse others of the same thing without comment...?!?! You don't seem to like that much, do you? It's not a matter of what I like or don't like, MinnieLennie. Ahem, that would be MinnieStebie. You are a person wrought with confusion and an odd sense of what you consider appropriate. You are inappropriate, Mentor Stebe. You publically announce your afinity for a person known to be a pathological liar and then go about calling other people names and making unsubstantiated allegations about them. Pretty silly, Brain. Stebe. If you enjoy placing your private parts in publically operated pencil sharpeners, be my guest...but don't whine about it when your parts get ground up when someone else turns the crank (pun intended) So do you wear a nurses dress when you play masochist? Now...about those T5 logs and your "authorization" to operate in Somalia? Correct. I was authorized. Not according to the evidence you've supplied, you weren't. What evidence have I supplied? |
(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message om... (Brian) wrote in message . com... (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Mean like how YOU let LENNIE "pass" with use of snide remarks, blatant lies, profanity and obvious misdirection of his posts, but then accuse others of the same thing without comment...?!?! You don't seem to like that much, do you? It's not a matter of what I like or don't like, MinnieLennie. Ahem, that would be MinnieStebie. You are a person wrought with confusion and an odd sense of what you consider appropriate. You are inappropriate, Mentor Stebe. You publically announce your afinity for a person known to be a pathological liar and then go about calling other people names and making unsubstantiated allegations about them. Pretty silly, Brain. Stebe. If you enjoy placing your private parts in publically operated pencil sharpeners, be my guest...but don't whine about it when your parts get ground up when someone else turns the crank (pun intended) So do you wear a nurses dress when you play masochist? Now...about those T5 logs and your "authorization" to operate in Somalia? Correct. I was authorized. Not according to the evidence you've supplied, you weren't. What evidence have I supplied? Exactly...No Evidence = No Proof = Brian's Lying. No problem. Steve, K4YZ |
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com... (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message om... Not according to the evidence you've supplied, you weren't. What evidence have I supplied? Exactly...No Evidence = No Proof = Brian's Lying. No problem. Steve, K4YZ Such a paradox. Robo-Angel wants so badly to avenge his anger, that he asserts "no proof" = guilty. Even MinnieStebie sees through his Mentor's weakness. ho ho |
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If I were to give the world an enema... 225 Main Street Newington, CT is where I'd stick the hose. |
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says... If I were to give the world an enema... 225 Main Street Newington, CT is where I'd stick the hose. OK, I missed the earlier part of this thread, and I'm probably opening a huge can of worms by asking this, but.... What do you have against the ARRL? I've had nothing but good experiences with them, both at HQ and with their representatives locally. -- -- //Steve// Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS Fountain Valley, CA Email: Web: http://home.earthlink.net/~kb6ojs_steve |
Probably thinks they're responsible for the demise of 73 magazine...
even tho Wayne's traditional subjects (keeping call sign when moving, etc.) pretty much have all been addressed and even Wayne at the end was stuck for editorials for amateur radio - resorting to pushing quack medicine and other crap.. "Steve Silverwood" wrote in message k.net... In article , says... If I were to give the world an enema... 225 Main Street Newington, CT is where I'd stick the hose. OK, I missed the earlier part of this thread, and I'm probably opening a huge can of worms by asking this, but.... What do you have against the ARRL? I've had nothing but good experiences with them, both at HQ and with their representatives locally. -- -- //Steve// Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS Fountain Valley, CA Email: Web: http://home.earthlink.net/~kb6ojs_steve |
When did this happen. I got my 73 in Oct as usual, and my subscription runs
out in 2006! K7DUP "Bill Newkirk" wrote in message ... Probably thinks they're responsible for the demise of 73 magazine... even tho Wayne's traditional subjects (keeping call sign when moving, etc.) pretty much have all been addressed and even Wayne at the end was stuck for editorials for amateur radio - resorting to pushing quack medicine and other crap.. "Steve Silverwood" wrote in message k.net... In article , says... If I were to give the world an enema... 225 Main Street Newington, CT is where I'd stick the hose. OK, I missed the earlier part of this thread, and I'm probably opening a huge can of worms by asking this, but.... What do you have against the ARRL? I've had nothing but good experiences with them, both at HQ and with their representatives locally. -- -- //Steve// Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS Fountain Valley, CA Email: Web: http://home.earthlink.net/~kb6ojs_steve |
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