In article k.net, "Bill
Sohl" writes:

"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "Carl R. Stevenson"
writes:

"Hans K0HB" wrote in message
. com...
"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:

I think I've taken the high ground

Carl, with all due respect, using abrasive and derisive terms like
"jumping through hoops" is not "the high ground". It is your same old
baiting and condescending rhetoric, seemingly calculated to be
inflamatory and divisive.

"jumping through hoops" is "abrasive and drisive" ???

Yes, it is. The image is not complimentary. Would you like the written
tests
described that way?

So are phrases like

"waste valuable time learning Morse"

I consider my time a very valuable resource as do many others.

Everyone's time is valuable, not just RF engineers'

Wy is a comment which describes time wwasted by people who
don't wish to expend it learning morse considered uncomplimentary?

It says that learning the mode is a waste of time.

What is wrong with saying:

"I don't want to *spend* the time necessary to learn...."

"dinosaur/buggywhip technology"

Me thinks as the end approaches...the PCTA side is grasping
at straws. I suggest not playing in the political arena of change if
such phraseology offends.

Are you saying I should simply shut up and go away? That's not like you at all,
Bill.

Carl claimed he had "taken the high ground". And for the most part of that
post, he did. But he did let a few derogatory phrases slip in.

Hans, K0HB also took note of them, and Hans is definitely not a 'PCTA grasping
at straws'.

Would you like your favorite modes described that way?

Sure wouldn't bother me. But then I've learned to disregard
most rheteroic anyway. 12 years as an elected official teaches
one to accept the heat or get out-of-the-kitchen.

I thought the point of this thread was to avoid the 'heat'.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"N2EY" wrote in message
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In article k.net, "Bill
Sohl" writes:

"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "Carl R. Stevenson"
writes:

"Hans K0HB" wrote in message
. com...
"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:

I think I've taken the high ground

Carl, with all due respect, using abrasive and derisive terms like
"jumping through hoops" is not "the high ground". It is your same
old
baiting and condescending rhetoric, seemingly calculated to be
inflamatory and divisive.

"jumping through hoops" is "abrasive and drisive" ???

Yes, it is. The image is not complimentary. Would you like the written
tests
described that way?

So are phrases like

"waste valuable time learning Morse"

I consider my time a very valuable resource as do many others.

Everyone's time is valuable, not just RF engineers'

I agree, and nothing I said suggests otherwise.

Why is a comment which describes time wwasted by people who
don't wish to expend it learning morse considered uncomplimentary?

It says that learning the mode is a waste of time.

It is...for the person making the statement.

What is wrong with saying:

"I don't want to *spend* the time necessary to learn...."

Which, on close examination means the same thing.

"dinosaur/buggywhip technology"

Me thinks as the end approaches...the PCTA side is grasping
at straws. I suggest not playing in the political arena of change if
such phraseology offends.

Are you saying I should simply shut up and go away? That's not like you at
all,
Bill.

Nope. I'm suggesting that if the language used in discussion
is so bbjectionable, then perhaps you'd rather not play in
the political sandbox. I also think it is rather humorous that
we are down to the level of concern that we are debating such
mundane phrasology as that above.

Carl claimed he had "taken the high ground". And for the most part of that
post, he did. But he did let a few derogatory phrases slip in.

Hans, K0HB also took note of them, and Hans is definitely not a 'PCTA
grasping
at straws'.

I don't care for the "jump through the hoops" example either...
but I have no problem with "waste my time learning"

Would you like your favorite modes described that way?

Sure wouldn't bother me. But then I've learned to disregard
most rheteroic anyway. 12 years as an elected official teaches
one to accept the heat or get out-of-the-kitchen.

I thought the point of this thread was to avoid the 'heat'.

Any time there are opposing positions, there will be some heat.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK