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Dr. Anton Phibes wrote:
"This is really, really [expletive] brilliant," Bono said during
the ceremony, using the f-word as an adjective.
The speech aired live on the East Coast. The FCC said it
received 234 complaints, all but 17 of them from individuals
associated with the Parents Television Council, a nonprofit
group that monitors programs for adult content.

That's an adverb, not an adjective.

Um, no; it is modifying "brilliant", which is a noun. Thus it is an
adjective.

Brilliant is an adjective in the above sentence as he was not referring to a
precious gem.

bril·liant
adj.
Full of light; shining. See Synonyms at bright.
Relating to or being a hue that has a combination of high lightness and
strong saturation.
Sharp and clear in tone.
Glorious; magnificent: the brilliant court life at Versailles.
Superb; wonderful: The soloist gave a brilliant performance.
Marked by unusual and impressive intellectual acuteness: a brilliant mind; a
brilliant solution to the problem. See Synonyms at intelligent.
n.
A precious gem, especially a diamond, finely cut in


So the sentence in question has the following structure.
This - pronoun, subject of sentence
is - verb, state of being
really, really [expletive] - string of adverbs modifying the adjective
that follows.
[expletive] referred to is a special case where the adverb has
been formed from a verb.
brilliant - a characteristic and thus an adjective not a noun.

It has the same nature as the sentence "John is tired" which uses an
adjective to describe John. It is not the nature as the sentence "John is a
boy". The first sentence is noun-verb-adjective where the latter is
noun-verb-noun.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Richard Cranium wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote in message ...

Dr. Anton Phibes wrote:

"This is really, really [expletive] brilliant," Bono said during
the ceremony, using the f-word as an adjective.
The speech aired live on the East Coast. The FCC said it
received 234 complaints, all but 17 of them from individuals
associated with the Parents Television Council, a nonprofit
group that monitors programs for adult content.

That's an adverb, not an adjective.


Um, no; it is modifying "brilliant", which is a noun. Thus it is an adjective.

Um, no. A noun is a person, place, or thing. "Brilliant" is none of
these See
http://www.uottawa.ca/academic/arts/...ouns.html#noun
..

"Richard Cranium" wrote in message
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That's an adverb, not an adjective.

Um, no; it is modifying "brilliant", which is a noun. Thus it is an
adjective.

geez, does it really matter? It's the same word... if the FCC is going
to stoop to THAT low of a level to let certain words "slide" now, why not
just do away with all censoring all at once?

it'll degenerate one day to the type of television they have in europe and
australia, where I hear just about anything goes.

Clint

Dr. Anton Phibes wrote:

October 9, 2003
F.C.C. Ruling Could Allow Use Of "F-word" On T.V.
By Jon Hanian BOISE -

In broadcasting, dropping the so called "F-bomb" goes
over like an H-bomb. But the FCC has now ruled that
the use of the "F-word" by U-2 frontman "Bono" at
the Golden Globe awards **did not** violate federal
indecency rules.

The FCC rules say the use of the word must be "patently offensive"
to be considered indecent.

I'll have to do a search at the US Patent Office to see who might have a
patent
on the f-word. And to see if they wrote it offensively.

;-)

New Q signals: QFU obvious
QFG ****ing great signal

Behold, Robert Casey signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

New Q signals: QFU obvious
QFG ****ing great signal

Hehehehe, added to my book Robert ;-)

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

I was always under the impression that the word "$HIT" was considered more
indecent than the "F" word by the FCC.

Dr. Anton Phibes wrote:
October 9, 2003
F.C.C. Ruling Could Allow Use Of "F-word" On T.V.
By Jon Hanian BOISE -

In broadcasting, dropping the so called "F-bomb" goes
over like an H-bomb. But the FCC has now ruled that
the use of the "F-word" by U-2 frontman "Bono" at
the Golden Globe awards **did not** violate federal
indecency rules.

The FCC rules say the use of the word must be "patently offensive"
to be considered indecent. But the FCC ruled that when Bono
received a Golden Globe award on television and
said, "this is really f * * * * * * brilliant," he did not violate
FCC rules. They ruled that the word was used as an adjective
instead of a verb and therefore, while it may have been
crude, it was not "patently offensive."

If that FCC decision confuses you, think about how those
of us in the media are trying to to interpret it.

Dr. Rick Moore of the Boise State University Communications
Department believes this decision will muddy the already
muddy waters for broadcasters who struggle with what is
acceptable and unacceptable speech. "I think it might give
some people a sense of greater license to not be quite so
tight on that bleep button as they have been in the past,"
said Moore.

At Idaho 2 News, General Manager Jeff Anderson says
while the ruling may make an already murky situation
murkier, KBCI TV will not air the F-word in any context.
"We have an obligation to program in the public
interest, and in my opinion broadcasting programming
with that kind of language is inappropriate and we
won't do it," he said.

---------------------------------

(Story 2)

FCC relaxes TV rules on use of f-word
By Chris Baker
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Remember comedian George Carlin's list of the seven dirty words you can't
say on television?

It just got a little shorter.

The Federal Communications Commission ruled this month that
Irish rocker Bono did not violate federal indecency rules when
he used the f-word during an acceptance speech at the
Golden Globe Awards, which NBC broadcast in January.

"This is really, really [expletive] brilliant," Bono said during
the ceremony, using the f-word as an adjective.
The speech aired live on the East Coast. The FCC said it
received 234 complaints, all but 17 of them from individuals
associated with the Parents Television Council, a nonprofit
group that monitors programs for adult content.

The FCC rejected the complaints Oct. 3 in a written statement
that used the f-word far more often than Bono did on the air.
David H. Solomon, chief of the FCC's enforcement
bureau, said the word "may be crude and offensive, but, in
the context presented here, did not describe sexual or
excretory organs and activities."

That distinction is a key to test whether a statement meets
a federal standard for broadcast indecency, according to FCC staffers.
Mr. Solomon said in the ruling that Bono used the vulgarity as
an adjective or to emphasize an exclamation and that "the use
of specific words, including expletives or other 'four-letter words'
does not render material obscene."

Laura Mahaney, director of corporate and entertainment affairs for
the Parents Television Council, has vowed an appeal. "The ruling
is outrageous. It's splitting hairs," she said.

Activists said they fear the FCC's ruling will allow the f-word
and other vulgarities to become more common in prime-time television.
"We're gradually getting to the point where nothing will be off-limits,"
said Jim O'Connor, president of the Cuss Control Academy, a Lake
Forest, Ill., group that advises individuals on ways to limit cursing.
Spokesmen for NBC and the other major broadcast networks
rejected the suggestion that the ruling will lead to more salty language in
prime time.

However, they acknowledge they face heavy competition from
cable networks such as HBO and FX, which have more freedom
to air edgy shows because they do not deliver programs over the
FCC-regulated airwaves.

The FCC's Enforcement Bureau issued the ruling on Bono's language.
The five-member FCC panel did not vote on the matter.
Commissioner Michael J. Copps, one of two Democrats on the
panel, said he has not reviewed the case, but if it had come
before him, he may not have dismissed the complaints.
"I do believe under the right circumstances that a word in
and of itself can be indecent without having to fit in
with a wider context," he said.

Six years ago, activists and the Clinton administration pushed the
networks to adopt a content-ratings system that would enable V-chips
to block programs parents deemed inappropriate.
At the time, some network executives feared the ratings system
would lead to bland scripts and cost them viewers.
For the most part, broadcasters have continued to push the
limits of decorum with programs such as "NYPD Blue," a pioneer
in the use of four-letter words. The show crossed another line
last season when ABC permitted writers to slip a coarse word
for bull dung into an episode.

I'm sure the PCTA's will spin and twist this news to somehow say
it's another example of how NCI is destroying ham radio.

It's almost laughable.

Clint
KB5ZHT


"Dr. Anton Phibes" wrote in message
...
October 9, 2003
F.C.C. Ruling Could Allow Use Of "F-word" On T.V.
By Jon Hanian BOISE -

In broadcasting, dropping the so called "F-bomb" goes
over like an H-bomb. But the FCC has now ruled that
the use of the "F-word" by U-2 frontman "Bono" at
the Golden Globe awards **did not** violate federal
indecency rules.

The FCC rules say the use of the word must be "patently offensive"
to be considered indecent. But the FCC ruled that when Bono
received a Golden Globe award on television and
said, "this is really f * * * * * * brilliant," he did not violate
FCC rules. They ruled that the word was used as an adjective
instead of a verb and therefore, while it may have been
crude, it was not "patently offensive."

If that FCC decision confuses you, think about how those
of us in the media are trying to to interpret it.

Dr. Rick Moore of the Boise State University Communications
Department believes this decision will muddy the already
muddy waters for broadcasters who struggle with what is
acceptable and unacceptable speech. "I think it might give
some people a sense of greater license to not be quite so
tight on that bleep button as they have been in the past,"
said Moore.

At Idaho 2 News, General Manager Jeff Anderson says
while the ruling may make an already murky situation
murkier, KBCI TV will not air the F-word in any context.
"We have an obligation to program in the public
interest, and in my opinion broadcasting programming
with that kind of language is inappropriate and we
won't do it," he said.

---------------------------------

(Story 2)

FCC relaxes TV rules on use of f-word
By Chris Baker
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Remember comedian George Carlin's list of the seven dirty words you can't
say on television?

It just got a little shorter.

The Federal Communications Commission ruled this month that
Irish rocker Bono did not violate federal indecency rules when
he used the f-word during an acceptance speech at the
Golden Globe Awards, which NBC broadcast in January.

"This is really, really [expletive] brilliant," Bono said during
the ceremony, using the f-word as an adjective.
The speech aired live on the East Coast. The FCC said it
received 234 complaints, all but 17 of them from individuals
associated with the Parents Television Council, a nonprofit
group that monitors programs for adult content.

The FCC rejected the complaints Oct. 3 in a written statement
that used the f-word far more often than Bono did on the air.
David H. Solomon, chief of the FCC's enforcement
bureau, said the word "may be crude and offensive, but, in
the context presented here, did not describe sexual or
excretory organs and activities."

That distinction is a key to test whether a statement meets
a federal standard for broadcast indecency, according to FCC staffers.
Mr. Solomon said in the ruling that Bono used the vulgarity as
an adjective or to emphasize an exclamation and that "the use
of specific words, including expletives or other 'four-letter words'
does not render material obscene."

Laura Mahaney, director of corporate and entertainment affairs for
the Parents Television Council, has vowed an appeal. "The ruling
is outrageous. It's splitting hairs," she said.

Activists said they fear the FCC's ruling will allow the f-word
and other vulgarities to become more common in prime-time television.
"We're gradually getting to the point where nothing will be off-limits,"
said Jim O'Connor, president of the Cuss Control Academy, a Lake
Forest, Ill., group that advises individuals on ways to limit cursing.
Spokesmen for NBC and the other major broadcast networks
rejected the suggestion that the ruling will lead to more salty language
in
prime time.

However, they acknowledge they face heavy competition from
cable networks such as HBO and FX, which have more freedom
to air edgy shows because they do not deliver programs over the
FCC-regulated airwaves.

The FCC's Enforcement Bureau issued the ruling on Bono's language.
The five-member FCC panel did not vote on the matter.
Commissioner Michael J. Copps, one of two Democrats on the
panel, said he has not reviewed the case, but if it had come
before him, he may not have dismissed the complaints.
"I do believe under the right circumstances that a word in
and of itself can be indecent without having to fit in
with a wider context," he said.

Six years ago, activists and the Clinton administration pushed the
networks to adopt a content-ratings system that would enable V-chips
to block programs parents deemed inappropriate.
At the time, some network executives feared the ratings system
would lead to bland scripts and cost them viewers.
For the most part, broadcasters have continued to push the
limits of decorum with programs such as "NYPD Blue," a pioneer
in the use of four-letter words. The show crossed another line
last season when ABC permitted writers to slip a coarse word
for bull dung into an episode.

Clint wrote:

I'm sure the PCTA's will spin and twist this news to somehow say
it's another example of how NCI is destroying ham radio.



This calls to mind an article in one of the ham mags 20 to 30 years ago
where
someone planted a battery operated transmitter and morse code generator
that would key up at random for a few seconds every few hours. It would
say "hated person's callsign's suffix SUX" Suppose he didn't like me, so
it would then be "ISE SUX" The frequency was on the input of a popular
repeater somewheres out West, like Arizona. Mountains in the area shielded
the rogue transmitter's signal from inhabited areas; only the repeater could
hear it. It was planted in a wildlife preserve, antenna partially
hidden in a
thicket of local weeds, and battery and transmitter buried. They had to get
permission from forest rangers or such to do a fox hunt to find it.

My point is that someone used code to say naughty words.....

Remember comedian George Carlin's list of the seven dirty words you
can't
say on television?

It just got a little shorter.


So, how short IS the list now...

I've heard at least 2 of them on national TV in 'family hours'.

"****" has been heard a few times, but the only one I can think of I'm
not sure of. War Games? Anyone know of other places?

And "teats" all over the place. Just recently in a broadcast of 'Witness'
with Harrison Ford in the barn with the Amish farmer...