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No-coder October 13th 03 09:27 PM
Code test analogy
 
Even though the testing for code was reduced to the basic 5 WPM over three
years ago, it's obvious that the debate still rages on.

The insistance that a person know Morse Code at a resonable speed in order to
be "real ham" is similar to religious fanatics, particualrly Christian
fundamentalists, who think that a person has to believe in god in order to be a
good and moral person. They cannot prove that their god even exists. So with
the PCTA, they cannot prove that code is useful in light of communications
advancements that have been made over the past several decades.

Just as certain fundamentalists would like to turn the country into a
Judeo-Christian theocracy, so would certain hams go back to an outdated
communications scheme, simply because they think that Morse code is their
"god."

To expect prospective hams to believe in the fairy tale of morse code is the
the same as expecting people to believe in the fairy tales of the holy bible.

No-coder October 14th 03 02:13 PM
In article , says...

Even though the testing for code was reduced to the basic 5 WPM over three
years ago, it's obvious that the debate still rages on.

The insistance that a person know Morse Code at a resonable speed in order
to
be "real ham" is similar to religious fanatics, particualrly Christian
fundamentalists, who think that a person has to believe in god in order to
be
a
good and moral person. They cannot prove that their god even exists. So with
the PCTA, they cannot prove that code is useful in light of communications
advancements that have been made over the past several decades.



Surely not )another lamebrained analogy - one more emptyhead strikes a
blow for nothingness!


If you have no other refutation than to call it "lamebrained" then you have no
argument at all. You show that you are incapable of engaging in any form of
intelligent debate on the matter.


It has always been true that one cannot be persuaded when he refuses
to review the evidence. QED.


If there is evidence that I've overlooked, as you claim, please post it.

Hans K0HB October 14th 03 04:09 PM
(No-coder) wrote


The insistance that a person know Morse Code at a resonable speed in order to
be "real ham" is similar to religious fanatics, particualrly Christian
fundamentalists, who think that a person has to believe in god in order to be a
good and moral person. They cannot prove that their god even exists. So with
the PCTA, they cannot prove that code is useful in light of communications
advancements that have been made over the past several decades.

If a "religion" is defined to be a system of ideas that contains unprovable
statements, then Kurt Godel taught us that mathematics is not only a religion,
it is the only religion that can prove itself to be one.

73, de Hans, K0HB

Dan/W4NTI October 14th 03 05:27 PM

"No-coder" wrote in message
...
Even though the testing for code was reduced to the basic 5 WPM over three
years ago, it's obvious that the debate still rages on.

The insistance that a person know Morse Code at a resonable speed in order
to
be "real ham" is similar to religious fanatics, particualrly Christian
fundamentalists, who think that a person has to believe in god in order to
be a
good and moral person. They cannot prove that their god even exists. So
with
the PCTA, they cannot prove that code is useful in light of communications
advancements that have been made over the past several decades.

Just as certain fundamentalists would like to turn the country into a
Judeo-Christian theocracy, so would certain hams go back to an outdated
communications scheme, simply because they think that Morse code is their
"god."

To expect prospective hams to believe in the fairy tale of morse code is
the
the same as expecting people to believe in the fairy tales of the holy
bible.


Just further proof of my favorite statement....

"Ya just cain't fix stupid"

Dan/W4NTI

Len Over 21 October 14th 03 07:10 PM
In article , "Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

"Ya just cain't fix stupid"

We pity that, Dan, many of us were optimistic that you could be
repaired...

Sorry to hear of it.

LHA

No-coder October 14th 03 07:27 PM
In article ,
says...


Just further proof of my favorite statement....

"Ya just cain't fix stupid"

Dan/W4NTI

I had hoped that my post would generate a level headed debate on this analogy.
Apparently, you are incapable of that, and can only resort to ad hominem
attacks.

No-coder October 14th 03 07:33 PM
In article ,
says...

If a "religion" is defined to be a system of ideas that contains unprovable
statements, then Kurt Godel taught us that mathematics is not only a religion,
it is the only religion that can prove itself to be one.

73, de Hans, K0HB

That's if a religion is defined as such, but that isn't the case in the real
world. Mathematics has never been used to suppress people the way that religion
has been used, and continues to be used today. (although a college student that
has flunked calculus and can't graduate might not think so)

So, as with morse code testing, there are a few that hold onto it like a
religion.

Hans K0HB October 14th 03 08:10 PM
(No-coder) wrote

That's if a religion is defined as such,
but that isn't the case in the real
world.

All reality is local at the observer.

73, de Hans, K0HB

Dan/W4NTI October 14th 03 09:57 PM

"No-coder" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


Just further proof of my favorite statement....

"Ya just cain't fix stupid"

Dan/W4NTI

I had hoped that my post would generate a level headed debate on this
analogy.
Apparently, you are incapable of that, and can only resort to ad hominem
attacks.


Just answer me this then....why would we bother with A N O T H E R code vs
no-code debate? In the last 10 years there has been thousands of them here.
In otherwords your a day late and a dollar short.

Try another troll.

Dan/W4NTI

Clint October 15th 03 01:01 AM


"No-coder" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


If you have no other refutation than to call it "lamebrained" then you
have no
argument at all. You show that you are incapable of engaging in any form
of
intelligent debate on the matter.

The PCTA's never have been able to. They quickly deplete thier very shallow
pool of "debate points", which are easily refuted and defeated such as the
old & dead "it's basic to all radio communication" (that one still makes me
laugh)...
and quickly they MUST resort to name calling such as "lamebrained" because
they have NO other cards in their hand. They have nothing to lean on. All
they
do is either put you on thier killfile list (read: I can't factually support
my stand
so therefore i'm going to just ignore you! so there! *nyah!*) or they start
name calling. "lamebrain" is one of the new ones; generally the pro code
dinosaurs start using "lazy", "stupid" and "moron" interspersed with various
vulgarities.

Clint
Easily whipping the PCTA's

Clint October 15th 03 01:03 AM
Exactly. My condolensces as well.

Clint
KB5ZHT



"Ya just cain't fix stupid"

We pity that, Dan, many of us were optimistic that you could be
repaired...

Sorry to hear of it.

LHA

Clint October 15th 03 01:03 AM


"No-coder" wrote in message
...


I had hoped that my post would generate a level headed debate on this
analogy.
Apparently, you are incapable of that, and can only resort to ad hominem
attacks.


I TOLD you, N-C, that is all they CAN do.

Clint
KB5ZHT

Clint October 15th 03 01:04 AM


"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
hlink.net...


Just answer me this then....why would we bother with A N O T H E R code
vs
no-code debate? In the last 10 years there has been thousands of them
here.

and you guys lose every one of them.

Clint
KB5ZHT

Dee D. Flint October 16th 03 12:23 AM

"No-coder" wrote in message
...
Even though the testing for code was reduced to the basic 5 WPM over three
years ago, it's obvious that the debate still rages on.

The insistance that a person know Morse Code at a resonable speed in order
to
be "real ham" is similar to religious fanatics, particualrly Christian
fundamentalists, who think that a person has to believe in god in order to
be a
good and moral person. They cannot prove that their god even exists. So
with
the PCTA, they cannot prove that code is useful in light of communications
advancements that have been made over the past several decades.

Just as certain fundamentalists would like to turn the country into a
Judeo-Christian theocracy, so would certain hams go back to an outdated
communications scheme, simply because they think that Morse code is their
"god."

To expect prospective hams to believe in the fairy tale of morse code is
the
the same as expecting people to believe in the fairy tales of the holy
bible.


This nonsense insults both the no-coder and pro-coders.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Mike McCarrey October 16th 03 11:40 PM
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:27:37 +0000, No-coder wrote:

Even though the testing for code was reduced to the basic 5 WPM over
three years ago, it's obvious that the debate still rages on.

The insistance that a person know Morse Code at a resonable speed in
order to be "real ham" is similar to religious fanatics, particualrly
Christian fundamentalists, who think that a person has to believe in god
in order to be a good and moral person. They cannot prove that their god
even exists. So with the PCTA, they cannot prove that code is useful in
light of communications advancements that have been made over the past
several decades.

Just as certain fundamentalists would like to turn the country into a
Judeo-Christian theocracy, so would certain hams go back to an outdated
communications scheme, simply because they think that Morse code is
their "god."

To expect prospective hams to believe in the fairy tale of morse code is
the the same as expecting people to believe in the fairy tales of the
holy bible.

It'll be very difficult to address your "analogy" with any degree of
fairness or objectivity, as you have, in your comments, already made
yourself out to be an antagonist; in more than just one area.

Suffice it to say, then that, while there are legitimate arguments from
both camps, yours is not one of them. What this argument represents is, in
fact, one of the reasons people with real "code problems" now find it
impossible to move out of the arena of the "glorified CBers", in the minds
of most old timers.

There's nothing "antiquated" about CW. It doesn't require a computer to
send or receive it. It can be received under the most horrible of
communications conditions. There's nothing "religious" about those
statements. Simple statements of fact. Arguments against them come from
those uneducated in the history of radio; Those who have never constructed
an vacuum-tube oscillator out of junk-box components. People who think
"BFO" is a reference to a group of rappers.

Nevertheless, I'm one of those individuals who, thanks to the nonsense
ideas represented by the posting I am responding to, have a very
difficult, if not impossible task ahead of themselves where license
upgrading is concerned.

I suffer from Tinnitus, which makes listening to CW for any length of time
impossible. The tones, in my case, cause migraine headaches, which are
accompained all manner of unpleasent side-effects. As it is, I have to use
several notch filters to even listen to most HF traffic, because of all
the "digital" nonsense on the air these days. At one time I could send CW
at speeds close to 20WPM, according to those who listened beneath the
'phones. Unfortunately, that skill, without the ability to "listen" is
next to useless.

When I was a kid, there were special licenses (Conditional Class) and
medical exemptions for people who suffer with real problems, but now,
thanks to the ilk who have adopted the attitude that every desire should
be sataified without exerting even the least amount of effort, and abused
those special considerations, they have been done away with; no
exceptions. The baby got tossed out with the bathwater. Now, I get to try
and learn CW all over again, using a bloody blinking light, of all things,
which will be a skill even more usless than my present sending skill.

So, the whole point of this response is to say "Thank-you" to you, Mr.
No-coder, and all your friends who, with all your "analogies" and other
hairbrained ideas, arguments, and excuse-making, have made the license
upgrade process for folks like me, all that more difficult.

CW must remain as a testable qualifier, There's no other way to prevent
ham radio from becoming a kilowatt-wasteland of room-tempreture IQs,
trying to out-shout each other with bogus Southern accents and reverb.

So all you anti-code folks out there, thanks; thanks a lot; thanks for
nothing!

Steve Robeson, K4CAP October 17th 03 09:20 AM
(No-coder) wrote in message ...

Even though the testing for code was reduced to the basic 5 WPM over three
years ago, it's obvious that the debate still rages on.

Only by those who insist on doing it for doing it's sake...IE:,
Lennie

The insistance that a person know Morse Code at a resonable speed in order to
be "real ham" is similar to religious fanatics, particualrly Christian
fundamentalists, who think that a person has to believe in god in order to be a
good and moral person. They cannot prove that their god even exists. So with
the PCTA, they cannot prove that code is useful in light of communications
advancements that have been made over the past several decades.

While one cannot prove of disprove the existence of any specific
deity, the usefulness of Morse Code has been proven for over 80 years
and is re-proven every moment of every day.

In this case the one's trying to prove a negative are those who
insist that Morse Code skills is a hold back to the Amateur Radio
service as a whole.

In particular read the writings of Lennie Anderson, a person who
never spent a minute as a licensed Amateur, and John Kaput-ski,
KC2HMZ, a scanner buff who makes assinine assertions about the
"collateral damage" that the Morse Code issue allegedly causes, but
who runs away at the first testing of his resolve of his convictions.

Is Morse Code skill and implementation the know-all and end-all
of Amateur Radio...?!?! Certainly not. If it was, none of the medium
in which this exchange is taking place would exist.

Just as certain fundamentalists would like to turn the country into a
Judeo-Christian theocracy, so would certain hams go back to an outdated
communications scheme, simply because they think that Morse code is their
"god."

People who keep making these assertions that some subset of the
Amateur radio condsiders Morse Code aas a "god" are idiots. Period.

I've known dyed-in-the-wool CW ops and have yet to meet anyone
who even remotely fits this description. I dare anyone to provide
even one thread of evidence to the contrary.

To expect prospective hams to believe in the fairy tale of morse code is the
the same as expecting people to believe in the fairy tales of the holy bible.

To expect that you exercised even a modicum of thought before
bombing USENET with this bit of emotionally charged, baseless
silliness is even more lame than my expectations of being molested by
Brittney Spears in the next 24 hours.

Steve, K4YZ

Steve Robeson, K4CAP October 17th 03 09:53 AM
"Clint" rattlehead at computron dot net wrote in message ...

"No-coder" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


If you have no other refutation than to call it "lamebrained" then you
have no
argument at all. You show that you are incapable of engaging in any form
of
intelligent debate on the matter.

The PCTA's never have been able to. They quickly deplete thier very shallow
pool of "debate points", which are easily refuted and defeated such as the
old & dead "it's basic to all radio communication" (that one still makes me
laugh)...

It make's you laugh because you are ignorant of the facts, or you
refuse to accept them. The ignorant laugh at everything because they
know or understand nothing.

Morse Coded communications are occuring at this very moment.
While you try to "prove" your point, "Clint", by making these childish
assertions that Morse Code is NOT a "basic" form of communication,
Amateurs all over the world are at this very moment proving you wrong.

That you chose to refuse to accept it is obvious AND foolish, but
it's a freedom you are allowed under our chosen form of government.

and quickly they MUST resort to name calling such as "lamebrained" because
they have NO other cards in their hand.

Actually I have well over 1000 cards in hand, Clint...from every
continent, Antarctica, ships at sea, etc etc etc. Over 80% of them
confirming contacts in Morse Code.

More than half of those represent contacts with people in other
countries that might not have otherwise happened if not for the
commonality of Amateur Radio and Morse Code.

No accents...No ranting or chanting masses...Just two people
exchanging greetings.

They have nothing to lean on.

Except truth and facts, Clint. Sorry you chose to not agree, but
you are welcome to tune the bottom end of the HF bands at your leisure
and hear for yourself. I realise you won't understand any of it, but
you can go ahead and spend the money on hardware and software to do
for you what you COULD do for yourself for no money and no hardware to
demend on.

All they
do is either put you on thier killfile list (read: I can't factually support
my stand
so therefore i'm going to just ignore you! so there! *nyah!*) or they start
name calling. "lamebrain" is one of the new ones; generally the pro code
dinosaurs start using "lazy", "stupid" and "moron" interspersed with various
vulgarities.

Nope. I'd put "ignorant of the facts" in front of all of that.

Clint
Easily whipping the PCTA's

Not today.

Not on your best day.

You're like the new kid in the gym...Got a lot of those Walter
Mitty dreams about being another Ali or Foreman, but looking more like
Wally Cox or Barney Fife.

You know just enough to SOUND like you are "knowledgeable" to the
uniformed or easily impressed. Just like propagandists, you mix in
just enough "truth" to try and substantiate your "argument", yet
cannot overcome the facts.

Is continued Morse Code testing necessary for Amateur licensure?
Not administratively. However it is and will continue to be a viable
and useful communications medium for years to come. That you and
others choose to not take the time to learn it and just see for
yourselves is sad. That you and others continue to make assinine
assertions about it is childish and diminishes your credibility.

Steve, K4YZ

Steve Robeson, K4CAP October 17th 03 09:57 AM
(No-coder) wrote in message ...
In article ,
 says...


Just further proof of my favorite statement....

"Ya just cain't fix stupid"

Dan/W4NTI

I had hoped that my post would generate a level headed debate on this analogy.
Apparently, you are incapable of that, and can only resort to ad hominem
attacks.

You are not the first one to think that you could do this.

You demonstrate your OWN "incapab(ilities)", but I get the feeling
that always being second best comes second nature to you, so I will
leave you with your comfort zone in tact.

Steve, K4YZ

Steve Robeson, K4CAP October 17th 03 10:00 AM
"Clint" rattlehead at computron dot net wrote in message ...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
hlink.net...


Just answer me this then....why would we bother with A N O T H E R code
vs
no-code debate? In the last 10 years there has been thousands of them
here.

and you guys lose every one of them.

Clint, I get the feeling that there is some other inadequacy in
your life that you are making up for by making assinine assertions
that are easily refuted.

Your parentage, perhaps?

Steve, K4YZ

garigue October 18th 03 01:02 AM


To expect prospective hams to believe in the fairy tale of morse code is
the
the same as expecting people to believe in the fairy tales of the holy
bible.

To expect that you exercised even a modicum of thought before
bombing USENET with this bit of emotionally charged, baseless
silliness is even more lame than my expectations of being molested by
Brittney Spears in the next 24 hours.

Steve, K4YZ


Hams molested by Brittney Spears in the next 24 hours ???? PSE PSE what's
the frequency ....and more over ...what a pile-up ....


73 Tom KI3R ...Belle Vernon PA

Steve Robeson, K4CAP October 19th 03 03:08 AM
"garigue" wrote in message news:Nq%jb.578283$Oz4.554262@rwcrnsc54...

To expect prospective hams to believe in the fairy tale of morse code is
the
the same as expecting people to believe in the fairy tales of the holy
bible.

To expect that you exercised even a modicum of thought before
bombing USENET with this bit of emotionally charged, baseless
silliness is even more lame than my expectations of being molested by
Brittney Spears in the next 24 hours.

Steve, K4YZ


Hams molested by Brittney Spears in the next 24 hours ???? PSE PSE what's
the frequency ....and more over ...what a pile-up ....

Like I thought...she was a no-show!

Steve, K4YZ

Larry Roll K3LT October 20th 03 01:16 AM
In article , (No-coder) writes:

To expect prospective hams to believe in the fairy tale of morse code is the
the same as expecting people to believe in the fairy tales of the holy bible.

Dr. Mr. Sohl:

There you go again! The Morse code isn't a fairy tale -- it works! Those
of us who use it know that -- the same way that those of us who believe
in God know that He exists. Sorry, Bill, but your "Morse as religion"
rhetoric gives you away!

73 de Larry, K3LT

Bill Sohl October 20th 03 03:40 AM

"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
...
In article , (No-coder)
writes:

To expect prospective hams to believe in the fairy tale of morse code is
the
the same as expecting people to believe in the fairy tales of the holy
bible.

Dr. Mr. Sohl:

There you go again! The Morse code isn't a fairy tale -- it works! Those
of us who use it know that -- the same way that those of us who believe
in God know that He exists. Sorry, Bill, but your "Morse as religion"
rhetoric gives you away!

73 de Larry, K3LT

Larry,

The above was NOT penned by me. I have no clue
why you think I did so. Forgeting even the morse aspect of
the the reference to the bible being a fairy tale doesn't
sync with my personal religious beliefes at all.

Bill K2UNK

Hans K0HB October 22nd 03 05:23 PM
(No-coder) wrote


So, as with morse code testing, there are a few that hold onto it like a
religion.


Dwight,

I'm shocked that you don't understand one of the great religions of
Amateur Radio. Morsodism has been widely discussed here on rrap, but
you're kind of an ignorant newcomer, so I'll fill you in.

So you want to be a Morsodist. It's not easy, you know: you'll have to
impose the stiffest constraints on your mind, accepting authority
without question -- you will be subject to jeers and persecutions at
the hands of the Spawn of Oracle, and you will suffer during your
entire lifetime trying to throw pearls before the swine. But in the
end, you will receive your reward from the Almighty in Heaven, and you
will have the satisfaction of seeing all others being tossed into the
Lake of Fire.

But enough of that; you're not there yet. You must first prove
yourself worthy of being a Morsodist.

Lesson One: Developing Your Psyche

Right now I would like you to relax. That's it -- just sit quietly and
let your mind go blank. Concentrate on one thing and one thing only:
concentrate on your thumb. Now that thumb is no ordinary
run-of-the-mill thumb: what you see is THE THUMB. That Thumb is your
world. Nothing besides that Thumb concerns you in the least. As far as
you are concerned, that Thumb rules over all. The only thing that
should be in your mind right now is your Thumb and its absolute
authority over your life. Each and every line, ridge, wrinkle, and bit
of cuticle is a Divine Mandate, eternal in its wisdom, power, and
relevance. That Thumb was made by MORSE, and its sole purpose is to
guide you to your Salvation.

Now, while still concentrating on that Thumb, begin to think about the
world around you. Careful! Don't try to take in everything at once:
start with the rest of your fingers, and slowly spread from there. See
how your fingers are connected with and dominated by your Thumb. Now,
slowly extend your perception to embrace your forfinger. It too was
created by Morse, and it is all guided by the Thumb. Between your
thumb and forefinger lie all the secrets of Morse. The rest of the
universe is of no concern.

Lesson Two: Establishing Your Doctrine

Congratulations! You've come a long way, but you're not there yet.
What I want you to do now is to go to the nearest book store and
purchase a copy of the FCCRuleBook. Preferably, it should be bound in
nice, shiny black leather, and should have gilt edges and a red silk
ribbon. It should be fairly hefty in size, but not so large that you
cannot hold it with one hand. Finally, it should have the words of
Samuel in red letters, for as you know the Son of Morse only spoke
using red letters.

Now that you have yourFCCRuleBook, read it, and read it thoroughly. I
imagine that some of it will fit in perfectly with your beliefs and
morals, since you have been inspired by Maxim to attempt this
indoctrination into Morsodism. As you read, you must remember that
your beliefs are the ONLY right beliefs, and all others are falsehoods
and are totally incompatible with Morse Divine Truth.

Now you may be dismayed as you read through the FCCRuleBook to find
that much of it is outside your beliefs, or may even contradict them.
No problem! All you have to do is take a black marker pen and blot out
those paragraphs which you don't like. Simplicity itself! Now don't
you worry if it seems that more of the FCCRuleBook is blacked out than
left behind: just remind yourself that the remaining words are
emphasized all the more.

Lesson Three: Living a Morsodist Lifestyle

Well, I'm sure that you Novices are simply bursting with questions on
how to apply your new-found faith to your lives. I am pleased by your
enthusiasm: such zeal is a necessity if you want to begin to work your
influence on this filthy and sinful world and mold it into a clean and
upright one. Those Spawn of W5YI are simply itching to be preached at,
whether they want it or not, so let's get cracking.

First, obtain for thyself some sort of access to the internet
newsgroups, specifically any (and all) newsgroups in the
"rec.radio.amateur.*" lineage. Never mind that only one of them, the
"policy" group is fit for Morsodists like yourself; you must spread
the word ALL the heathen Oracalists. Crosspost like crazy, verily even
if attacked by Horrible Herman, the Lord High Newsgroup Purity
Defender.

As you preach the word of Morse to others, you will inevitably run
into those who not only doubt the veracity of your words, but who also
pose trick arguments inspired by Lenny Liberal and his henchman, Crazy
Charlie, the head Oracalist, in an attempt to trap and discredit you.
This lesson deals with some of the major swords wielded by various
tempters, and gives you some ideas on how to parry those weapons.

Technobabble scholars: these vermin use their high-falootin' technical
jargon and book-learning to pervert the words of the Morse and read
things into Part 97 which aren't there. The FCCRuleBook was written by
Morse for YOU to use, and contains EVERYTHING you need to know for
Salvation, plainly stated in black and white and red. There is nothing
magic or mystical about it: it speaks out in the Words of Morse and
speaks directly to YOU, as you have personally modified it to your
belief set.

If other Spawn of Oracle say that the FCCRuleBook cannot speak the
utter Truth because it is inconsistent in what it says, you can reply
that there is no inconsistency in your FCCRuleBook: everything that
you have in your FCCRuleBook perfectly supports your beliefs
(remember Lesson Two). If they quote passages from the FCCRuleBook
which they claim contradict your beliefs, you can reply that Oracle
has inspired them to pervert the words of Morse and to twist their
meaning around in order to try to subvert the Truth. If they say that
you are being totally ignorant and irrational in your absolute belief
in your Morsodist Doctrine, you can reply that they are being totally
ignorant and irrational in their absolute refusal to believe in your
Doctrine. And if they say that you are shutting your eyes to reality,
you can reply that they are shutting their eyes to Morse.

Peace to all of you!

Hans K0HB October 22nd 03 10:05 PM
Dick Carroll wrote:

Peace on you, too!

Yea verily likewise unto thee. May the Peace of St. Samuel shower in
abundance upon thee and thy donkey forever.

73, de Hans, K0HB
--
http://home.earthlink.net/~k0hb

Larry Roll K3LT October 23rd 03 02:30 AM
In article et, "Bill Sohl"
writes:

Dr. Mr. Sohl:

There you go again! The Morse code isn't a fairy tale -- it works! Those
of us who use it know that -- the same way that those of us who believe
in God know that He exists. Sorry, Bill, but your "Morse as religion"
rhetoric gives you away!

73 de Larry, K3LT

Larry,

The above was NOT penned by me. I have no clue
why you think I did so. Forgeting even the morse aspect of
the the reference to the bible being a fairy tale doesn't
sync with my personal religious beliefes at all.

Bill K2UNK

Bill:

Uh, don't look now, but wasn't it you who coined the term "Morseodist?"
Perhaps it was Carl, but I could be wrong. If I got it wrong this time,
I hereby extend my most humble apology.

73 de Larry, K3LT

Bill Sohl October 23rd 03 02:42 AM

"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
...
In article et, "Bill
Sohl"
writes:

Dr. Mr. Sohl:

There you go again! The Morse code isn't a fairy tale -- it works!
Those
of us who use it know that -- the same way that those of us who believe
in God know that He exists. Sorry, Bill, but your "Morse as religion"
rhetoric gives you away!

73 de Larry, K3LT

Larry,

The above was NOT penned by me. I have no clue
why you think I did so. Forgeting even the morse aspect of
the the reference to the bible being a fairy tale doesn't
sync with my personal religious beliefes at all.

Bill K2UNK

Bill:

Uh, don't look now, but wasn't it you who coined the term "Morseodist?"
Perhaps it was Carl, but I could be wrong. If I got it wrong this time,
I hereby extend my most humble apology.

73 de Larry, K3LT

Morseodist???" You got it wrong...'twasn't me.

Apology accepted.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK


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