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Bill Wright December 6th 03 08:13 PM

Eliminate the CW requirement for General & Extra, BUT THEN...
 
BUT THEN change the CW band plan.
Eliminate the current segregation of the CW bands by license level and
institute a band plan based on transmit speed. We could have Low speed - 5
wpm, Medium speed - 12 wpm and High speed - 20 wpm band sections. Even if
you have an Extra license, you need to stay out of the "Fast Lane" unless
you can keep up with the traffic.
Regards,
Bill
KO6SI


"Code" wrote in message
...
Should Morse code be retained as a requirement to
obtain an amateur radio license in the U.S.?

73

Code Yes or No






garigue December 6th 03 08:32 PM


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
. ..
BUT THEN change the CW band plan.
Eliminate the current segregation of the CW bands by license level and
institute a band plan based on transmit speed. We could have Low speed -

5
wpm, Medium speed - 12 wpm and High speed - 20 wpm band sections. Even if
you have an Extra license, you need to stay out of the "Fast Lane" unless
you can keep up with the traffic.

Hello Bill ....

Yepper that's what we need a novice ghetto .... I can't understand why
people can't see that one reason that the CW mess we are in is partially due
to the CWists.

Yep lets put the newcomers on 80 where the summer QRN blows the phones off
your head ....or better yet let them work DX between all the crap on 40 ...
but wait go to 15 where the band has needed Viagra over the last few years.
Give 'em a sliver of band so they can prove their worth .


I have always said that 5 WPM is a good entrance speed and should be
accepted "all over" the bands. Let the true ham spirit shine and let the
"speeders" slow down and work the new ops just like we once were ...or did
we forget??? For those that don't ...well your dirty underwear is showing.
We need to foster our mode not our speed accomplishments.


To repeat myself ....my CW unravels like a cheap sweater at 45 WPM ....
maybe I shouldn't get the bottom 5-10-20 kcs (your pick) of each band.

God Bless 73 Tom Popovic KI3R Belle Vernon Pa



Dee D. Flint December 6th 03 08:34 PM


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
. ..
BUT THEN change the CW band plan.
Eliminate the current segregation of the CW bands by license level and
institute a band plan based on transmit speed. We could have Low speed -

5
wpm, Medium speed - 12 wpm and High speed - 20 wpm band sections. Even if
you have an Extra license, you need to stay out of the "Fast Lane" unless
you can keep up with the traffic.
Regards,
Bill
KO6SI


I disagree. It's not like driving where it would be dangerous to be going
slowly in the fast lane. Instead it is more like, oh say tennis, if you
really want to improve, you work with the best even if you can't yet match
them.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Larry Roll K3LT December 7th 03 05:53 AM

In article , "Bill Wright"
writes:

BUT THEN change the CW band plan.
Eliminate the current segregation of the CW bands by license level and
institute a band plan based on transmit speed. We could have Low speed - 5
wpm, Medium speed - 12 wpm and High speed - 20 wpm band sections.


This idea should not be tossed aside lightly. It should be hurled with
great force.

Even if
you have an Extra license, you need to stay out of the "Fast Lane" unless
you can keep up with the traffic.


Don't look now, but it already works that way. What do you want to do --
have Riley Hollingsworth hand out NAL's to hams who are sending too
slowly in the wrong band segments? How could something like this
possibly be enforced?

"Code" wrote in message
...
Should Morse code be retained as a requirement to
obtain an amateur radio license in the U.S.?

73

Code Yes or No


Yes.

73 de Larry, K3LT


Bill Sohl December 7th 03 02:36 PM


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
. ..
BUT THEN change the CW band plan.
Eliminate the current segregation of the CW bands by license level and
institute a band plan based on transmit speed. We could have Low speed -

5
wpm, Medium speed - 12 wpm and High speed - 20 wpm band sections. Even if
you have an Extra license, you need to stay out of the "Fast Lane" unless
you can keep up with the traffic.
Regards,
Bill
KO6SI


ARRL could suggest voluntary bandplans today. The FCC isn't
going to do that because then there is the monitor and
enforcement issue.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK






N2EY December 7th 03 02:44 PM

In article , "Bill Wright"
writes:

BUT THEN change the CW band plan.


Why?

Eliminate the current segregation of the CW bands by license level and
institute a band plan based on transmit speed.


The only "CW bands" in US amateur radio today are 50.0 - 50.1 and 144.0 - 144.1
MHz. And they're open to all licensees except Novices.

The HF bands have CW/data subbands.

We could have Low speed - 5
wpm, Medium speed - 12 wpm and High speed - 20 wpm band sections. Even if
you have an Extra license, you need to stay out of the "Fast Lane" unless
you can keep up with the traffic.


Why?

73 de Jim, N2EY

Dan/W4NTI December 7th 03 06:09 PM


"garigue" wrote in message
news:Y1rAb.448518$Fm2.443528@attbi_s04...

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
. ..
BUT THEN change the CW band plan.
Eliminate the current segregation of the CW bands by license level and
institute a band plan based on transmit speed. We could have Low

speed -
5
wpm, Medium speed - 12 wpm and High speed - 20 wpm band sections. Even

if
you have an Extra license, you need to stay out of the "Fast Lane"

unless
you can keep up with the traffic.

Hello Bill ....

Yepper that's what we need a novice ghetto .... I can't understand why
people can't see that one reason that the CW mess we are in is partially

due
to the CWists.

Yep lets put the newcomers on 80 where the summer QRN blows the phones off
your head ....or better yet let them work DX between all the crap on 40

....
but wait go to 15 where the band has needed Viagra over the last few

years.
Give 'em a sliver of band so they can prove their worth .


I have always said that 5 WPM is a good entrance speed and should be
accepted "all over" the bands. Let the true ham spirit shine and let the
"speeders" slow down and work the new ops just like we once were ...or did
we forget??? For those that don't ...well your dirty underwear is

showing.
We need to foster our mode not our speed accomplishments.


To repeat myself ....my CW unravels like a cheap sweater at 45 WPM ....
maybe I shouldn't get the bottom 5-10-20 kcs (your pick) of each band.

God Bless 73 Tom Popovic KI3R Belle Vernon Pa



A good CW operator will slow down to the others speed. It makes sense
really. Why keep going at QRQ if the other guy can't copy? Or maybe they
are just showing off.

I wonder who will be impressed ?

Dan/W4NTI



garigue December 8th 03 01:49 AM


A good CW operator will slow down to the others speed. It makes sense
really. Why keep going at QRQ if the other guy can't copy? Or maybe they
are just showing off.

I wonder who will be impressed ?

Dan/W4NTI



Hello there Dan .....well I won't. I harbor no envy at the fellows who are
50+ or distain at those who have been on for years and are still at "slow"
speeds. The important thing is that the mode and frequencies are being
utilized. I was just on 80 with a fellow from WVA ...boy the band had a nice
mellow sound to it tonight.

God Bless 73 Tom Popovic KI3R Belle Vernon Pa.



Bill Sohl December 8th 03 04:08 AM


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
. ..
BUT THEN change the CW band plan.
Eliminate the current segregation of the CW bands by license level and
institute a band plan based on transmit speed. We could have Low speed -

5
wpm, Medium speed - 12 wpm and High speed - 20 wpm band sections. Even if
you have an Extra license, you need to stay out of the "Fast Lane" unless
you can keep up with the traffic.
Regards,
Bill
KO6SI


so is that:

Low speed - 0 up to 5 wpm
Medium - 5 wpm up to 12 wpm
High - 12 to 20

just curious where the 30wpm folks would then operate.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK




Brian December 8th 03 01:31 PM

"Bill Sohl" wrote in message link.net...
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
. ..
BUT THEN change the CW band plan.
Eliminate the current segregation of the CW bands by license level and
institute a band plan based on transmit speed. We could have Low speed -

5
wpm, Medium speed - 12 wpm and High speed - 20 wpm band sections. Even if
you have an Extra license, you need to stay out of the "Fast Lane" unless
you can keep up with the traffic.
Regards,
Bill
KO6SI


so is that:

Low speed - 0 up to 5 wpm
Medium - 5 wpm up to 12 wpm
High - 12 to 20

just curious where the 30wpm folks would then operate.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



Hey, not so fast with splitting up the bands. I'm still trying to get
at what level "CW proficiency" begins.


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