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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: Your "exploration" has been as a paid employee, never being allowed to use the "radio" as AMATEURS use thiers. That's the way it is done in professional work. Yet you still seem to ahve a problem understanding the difference between AMATEUR Radio and all otehr forms of radio...You continue to think Amateur Radio should be like them, when Part 97 specifically lays out what it wants Amateur Radio to be. However, for casual "ragchews," I've used CB...perfectly legal to do so without any morse knowledge or needing a ham license. And considering the character and content of most "ragchews" I ahve heard on 11 meters, I'd say that you were right in your element, Lennie. That you never used Morse Code is not germane. Millions of other radio users never use it either. So what? Test element 1 is still present in the U.S. amateur radio license examination regulations. That requires demonstration of morse code proficiency. Again...so what? You are still not a licensee in the Amateur Radio Service, therefore it is absolutely of no consequence to you. Hang in there, Scott. Pander to the would-be "authority wanna-bes" if you have to...but GO YOUR OWN WAY. Be your own man, not a puppet of those who dictate what you can do, what you shall enjoy, what you must do to please them. Independent thought is GOOD! Independent thought IS good, as long as it is LENNIE'S independent thought. Incorrect. When I said "independent," I meant it in the complete sense, not some inappropriate, semantically-incorrect, emotionally- loaded form by Stebe the wonder marine. Or in other words, YOUR "independent" thought, ie your OPINIONS are more valuable since they are contrary to someone elses...uh huh... Leonard H. Anderson, retired from regular hours engineer, is a known pathological liar and newsgroup antagonist. Tsk, tsk, tsk...Stebe froths at the mouth and does the personal- insult bit again. It's not an insult if it's true, Lennie. You've been caught lying over and over. You are knee deep in a newsgroup for which you have expressed NO interest in being a proactive participate except to rant in this forum...THAT makes you an antagonist. Here in the present reality, there are differing OPINIONS, not "lies." When you make an assertion that is determined to not be true, THAT is a lie. YOU have been caught lying on MORE than one occassion. Strange to associate "concept of amateur radio" as being all about morse code testing. No, Lennie, YOU are the one with the "morse code testing" fixation. You are the one who cannot discuss ANY Amateur Radio topic without interjecting it. Still sucks to be you, Lennie. You're still a putz. Steve, K4YZ |
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Stebe Robeson, still in the throes of PMS (Powerful Marine Syndrome) writes: (Lennie exhibits yet again his "accuse OTHERS of "character assassination, then deny, deny, deny...) And I do not spit on "professionalism" Lennie. Of course you do. Everyone has seen it in this free, open, unmoderated forum. What YOU represent is not what anyone that I know calls "professionalism". You have the tools to make a difference in Amateur Radio, yet your only action is to antagonize, humiliate and insult in this forum. Hardly "professional" in ANYone's definition. You "knew everything about electronics engineering" after working less than a year as a purchasing agent in a company making set-top boxes and modems. You will, of course, provide the reference for the "quote" you just cited? You've consistantly tried to equate college night courses with some kind of alliterative low-grade "night school." No, Lennie, YOU have demonstrated that it's some kind of allitaritive low-grade "night school" by your assertion of "professionalism" and subsequent conduct herein. You've consistantly said I was a mere "bench technician" rather than a design engineer...yet you've never tried to check with any of the past employers I've listed nor contacted any of the U.S. radio amateurs I've listed as references. I have yet to find any product in my home or in MY profession that has your hand in it, Lennie. And discussions with people who knew you placed your "contributions" at teh bench technician level...I just picked up on it. That assertion is yet ANOTHER lie from somone whio finds it EASY to lie. I have nothing but the highest regard for professionals in ANY field...It's just that I have absolutely ZERO respect for YOU since you've made such a mockery of the title. "Mockery?" From the expert Dill Instructor with hardly any work experience in ANY engineering? This forum is NOT about "engineering", Your Scumminess. It's about Amateur Radio. Tsk, tsk, tsk...all you do is vent hatred and bile against another because that is your nature in here...always insulting the person who has opinions rather than tackling the subject matter...and, when there is no possibility of a valid response to the subject, just more heaping of insults against a person. The "opinions" you express are as received as equally injurous as YOU receive against you. The only problem is that you seem to think you are the only one with a valid opinion. THAT makes you arrogant. As for "going on 84", I will gladly jog around the block a few times with you or see how well you do carrying a full field pack on the rescue team. NOW who is involved in another "ploy of pervase character assassination"...?!?! Tsk, tsk, tsk...Stebe reacting as if He were the only one mentioned. Well, Lennie...YOU said "48 going on 84"... To WHOM were you refering? And I will STILL mount up taht pack and take a jog around the block with you...You also accused me of being "pudgy", yet evidence to the contrary ahs been presented. More of that Andersonian "character assassination" going on, I see... Unless Stebe moved (again?), He does not live in Pennsylvania nor is he a renowned amateur historian. I need to live in Pennsylvania or be a historian to make a fool out of you...?!?! I don't THINK so! Since YOU seem to be the only one who deems it important to interject arguments about Morse Code into threads that don't even adress it, I'd say the fixation is yours, Oh Putzy One. Absolutely. I interject comments about the beloved smartness of the morse code test at any opportunity. And when the thread is NOT about Morse Code, that makes you a troll. Contrary to your personal (weird) beliefs, just getting into U.S. amateur radio on HF allocations requires a morse test. [see subject title "A Newbies View On Things"] Sorry, Scummy One... FEDERAL LAW requires that one know Morse Code to have access to the Amateur HF allocations. This was based upon international convention which has since been changed. The United States Government is presently in the public comment phase of chainging that requirement. My only "belief" is that one should comply with the law as it exists while it exisits. You seem to think selective law compliance is OK. Some of us desire to change the amateur regulations and eliminate the morse code test. Being a "member of the amateur community" through licensing is not required to change federal laws [see the U.S. Constitution in regard to who may communicate with their government]. Then communicate with them. Your presence and practice here is antagonistic and argumentitive. You long ago lost any initiative on your "opinions" when you started in on individuals. All amateur learning STOPS after achieving Extra in Stebe's World. If that's what you think, Lennie, and that's what you NEED to believe in order to sleep at night, well, who am I to deny you a good night's sleep. That it's not true is inconsequential to YOUR needs.... Steve, K4YZ |
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Stebe, suffering yet another Powerful Marine Syndrome attack) writes: It wasn't YOUR station, Lennie...It was a facility of the United States Army. Tsk, tsk, tsk...still sore and pished because I had the opportunity while in my military service yet you did not? But I did, Lennie. Had fun, too, but it still wasn't MY station (save for being NCOIC of the facility)...It was the Marine Corps', and they provided more than adequate instruction on how it was to be set up and what they expected from it. Therein lies the difference between you and I... ADA was...(SNIPPED) Yadayadayada...same old drivvel. They could have just as easily made you a diesel mechanic...Perhaps then you would have been harrassing the professional truck drivers. No, the Army could NOT "do that as easily." I was sent to the Fort Monmouth Signal School for several months of microwave radio relay training after Basic. Diesel mechanics were trained in several other school locations. And the Army COULD have sent you to diesel mechanic school, jst as easily as the USMC could have sent me to it...It's thier game. ADA did have several...(SNIPPED) Yadayadayada... More ranting on about a 1950's era event that has NO relevence to MODERN Amateur Radio. Yes, "senior NCOs taught us" and said "do this." This is normal in a work environment were supervisors also teach and say "do that." Somehow you find that deplorable? Absolutely not. YOU do, however, since you have, on several occasions, tried to insinusate that YOU set up a "KW trans-Pacific" radio station on the Army's behalf. I learned all that was required (and more) on-the-job and later became an "NCO" who said "do this (or that)." Congratuations. That was all before Stebe was born. It must make him very angry and furious that anyone actually did those things before his life experience began. Nope. Not at all. What I find FUNNY is that you repeatedly try to insinuate that YOU were somehow singlehandedly responsible for all of the accomplishments at ADA. Shall we revist YOUR assertion of how you passed "1.2 million messages"...?!?! I still honor the men and women of my Battalion, knowing the history from first unit formation to changes through today. I am proud of what I did, of my fellow signalmen for "getting the messages through." We did it. It's on record, including two Presidential Unit Citations. Callsign ADA still exists, now that of U.S. Army Pacific Headquarters at Fort Shafter, Hawaii. People do not Honor their comrades-in-arms by trying to make it appear as though THEY were the sole reason the US Army Signal Corps was able to pass HF radio traffic in the 1950's. And people do not Honor thier comrades-in-arms by trying to garner newsgroup message points by trying to associate THIER Army "career" with the blood shed by soldiers KIA three years before they were in-theater. Lennie...The only person you try to "honor" is yourself, and you've already proven that THAT is a waste of energy. Steve, K4YZ |
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Stebe Robeson, in his period and needing attention) writes: Opinions not in line with Stebe's Beliefs in his fantasyland are, in his mind, "lies." Strange stuff. Assertions made without validation of proof are lies. You have been caught lying...over and over. A reminder: In THIS reality, this newsgroup is open, unmoderated and there are no raddio kopps at the doorway to check for proper credentials of amateurism. Stebe is a mighty amateur in radio...as well as in human society. You're right about one thing...there is no validation of credentials...save to cross reference federal databases. As of this moment, you do not hold a station license in ANY radio service, nor are you a licensed Amateur Radio operator. AMATEUR Radio, Lennie...You have exactly zero-point-zero minutes of experience in AMATEUR Radio. No one, repeat NO one in this forum denies that the technology and propagation of radio waves is any different in any other radio service. Tsk, tsk, tsk...in Stebe's fantasyland, those who want to get into amateur radio must also "have experience in amateur radio?" Nice try. Perhaps's Stebe thinks the amateur radio "service" is like the USMC. Nope. That's YOUR scthick, Lennie. You WANT (desperately) to be "better than others" for having that federal authorization and become enraged when others do not respect your glorious and noble achievement...forgetting that your other actions as a human being are deplorable, even despicable. In this case I AM better than YOU for having done it, Lennie...That includes over 30+ years of experience in the topic that we are addressing...AMATEUR Radio. My opinion is that none of the above will have any effect on Stebe. He will continue to vent rage and fury on certain individuals because that is the only tactic available to bullies. But, it needs to be said once in a while. There is no "affect" to be had, Lennie. I am not the one in a newsgroup of which I have no practical experience...Nor do I pretend that some experience in another related field somehow means I DO know more than those who ARE involved. You are the bully here, Lennie. A lying, antagonistic one. Sucks to be you...again. Steve, K4YZ |
"William" wrote: Looks like you've been attending "Anger Management." I went to an anger management class once - the class just made me angry. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
"Scott" wrote in message ...
Hi folks. Please allow me to give a "newbies" view on the current state of amateur radio, and also ask a few questions. I recently took my Technicians License exam and passed with a perfect score. (I bring up the score just to indicate that I studied hard, and took the exam seriously). I am now studying to take the 5wpm mores code test. I have not yet purchased a radio, or even been "on the air". More on this is a moment. I have also joined a local radio club, whose first meeting I attended last night. This club owns and maintains the local 2m repeater, and even though it is an open repeater, if nothing else, I feel as though by joining, I am helping to support a service which I plan on eventually using. But what disappoints me is the fact that I left this meeting knowing absolutely no more than I did when I walked into the door. I had been led to believe that one of the best ways for a new guy just becoming involved in this hobby to get practical advice on things like your first purchase of equipment, which bands are best for what, and the different applications of amateur radio, was to join a club. Well, unfortunately, the majority of the meeting I attended was, in my opinion, controlled by a group of 7 or 8 ham "veterans" trying to impress one another with their technical knowledge. So, I guess what I would like to do here is give my views on what I have seen so far, and invite anyone who is more informed on these matters to correct me. 1) The Amateur Radio Service is not an essential element in our society. Even in times of emergency, there is nothing you can do with a ham radio that you can't do with an internet connection, fax machine, land line telephone, or cell phone in similar circumstances. Ham Radio is a hobby, and like golf, gardening, bird watching, or any other hobby, it could cease to exist tomorrow, and nothing would really change. 2) To me, the most appealing aspect to Ham Radio is the gaining of knowledge. Learning the "in's and out's" of all that encompasses Ham Radio o peration is the true fun, whether it is dx'ing, satellite, CW or whatever. But, like building a boat in a bottle, or even doing a crossword puzzle, the satisfaction comes in the steps taken to accomplish the task, not the end result itself. 3) From all accounts that I have heard, the number of new Amateur licenses issued has been declining for years. This would tell me that the best way to save the hobby was to open new Hams with open arms, instead of clinging white-knuckled to the past (packet radio, morse code etc.) look to the future, and make it fun. Thanks for letting me rant folks. Now for some questions. 1) Can anyone point me towards any resources to assist someone brand new to the hobby? (Stuff like recommendations on the type of equipment to get for the first time buyer)? 2) Also, any sources to purchase used equipment. I think I would rather buy more functional used stuff, than new equipment that has less "bells and whistles". 3) One more thing...I am looking for information on antennas that is geared to the novice. Thanks folks. I am newer than you, but I do have a rig set up, and ready to go when my callsign is granted. What I've learned so far: 1.) Make sure you have what you'll need. If you don't operate from a car, and you want a mobile rig, make sure you've bought your 13.8V DC Power supply. I used up every penny getting this bugger ready to go, and I found I needed the following: 2M Mobile Radio (I got an Icom v8000) Diamond X-50 2M Antenna 50' 52-Guage Coax A pair of "banana plugs" A pair of 50 ohm Coax plugs A soldering Iron Solder A mono-stereo 8 Ohm converter (for earphones) I am very hearing impaired. I have only 20% hearing in my left ear, 25% in my right Both ears is good. (As far as listening goes) Coax crimper Wire cutter/stripper Make sure you'll know EVERYTHING you'll need. I spent $150.00 more than I thought I'd have to getting started. Total price tag for me was $400.00. YMMV. 2.) You'll pretty much have to get on the air and ask, but ask PREPARED TO UNDERSTAND! KNOW what it is you want to know, and go from there. Nothing irritates ANYONE more than someone randomly asking unrelated questions, and not grasping what's being told to them. If you're transmitting with hum or static, they'll let you know. I don't speak from personal experience, but by listening to the 2M repeater. 3.) Have fun, be polite, and follow the rules of transmission and you'll learn sooner rather than later whether or not you want to move forward in this hobby. My ultra-newbie two cents worth. With all respects, 73 DJM |
"Daniel J. Morlan" wrote I am newer than you, but I do have a rig set up, and ready to go when my callsign is granted. What I've learned so far: I absolutely LOVE it!!!! Dan is still waiting on his callsign, but he's already being an Elmer! Welcome aboard Dan. You are a breath of fresh air around here. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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