In article , Leo
writes:

On 05 Feb 2004 05:32:30 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

In article , Dave Heil male impersonator
writes:

LOL, SCAOTP

OK, Len, that's it - you owe me a new keyboard for that one.....this
one's covered in coffee now, an^% jhfsd75 87t8 *^%^ 94w057y

Download a new keyboard from Ten-Tec. Charge it to my account:
Heil's Hum Radio and Storm Door Company.

[used to be an earlier airline outfit under a woman CEO...]





outer space for rent...







LHA / WMD

In article , Dave Heil Fibber
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil male impersonator
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

I have yet to see or hear of a single example of a nocode
experimenting with a new wide mode. For that matter none of the
Extra
"wideband digigeeks"who have bleated the same refrain have done
anything but talk either.

Is PSK31 chopped liver? :-)

When did a 31 Hz wide mode become "wideband"?

Martinez' innovation comes from scaling current wideband data
communications at high rates to the slow, real-time rates of
amateur radio environments. That involved some good application
of Information Theory and other things, not in being spoon-fed
How To Do It from the pages of QST.

I noted that you didn't really provide an answer to the question.

The question was ambiguous and did not define "wide."

Your name isn't "Kelly," sweetums. Ya gotta live near philly, eat
hoagies and buy "gaz" for da car in order to impersonate Kelly.

Got that?

I've had it all along.

We know. You are incurable.

Some Tums would ease your gaz pains.

You wouldn't know Martinez if he had a leather suit instead of scales.

Really? I beg to differ. At any rate, how would you be in a position
to know what I know?

Extras shouldn't beg. That's unseemly.

ANYONE'S "in a position to know" you don't know, snarly dave.

Four neurons can't hold more than 16 bits of data.


Hello? Ever hear of Shannon's Law and the relationship of data rate
versus bandwidth? It's fairly simple math and proportional. That
means it can be SCALED as in relationship of numbers.

That is simply more misdirection on your part.

Hokay...the entire rest of the radio world is familiar with Shannon's
Law and the mathematical relationship of bandwidth, noise,
information rate, and probability of error. They agree it is correct.

But, as an amateur you disagree, calling it "misdirection."

You need more than four neurons, senior alzheimer. Download some
from Ten-Tec and improve your cognitive capability.

Tell us about the new wideband modes.

Why? You are an amateur keeping alive the Living Museum of
Archaic Radio and imagining you are in a Star Trek universe with
matter transporters.

On-off carrier keying is the limit of your profound radio knowledge.

We can't disappoint you with reality of the rest of the radio world.
You are a proud and noble amateur, better than all professionals.

Hail Ceasar and all the other salads...

You don't seem to be able to
address the question about wideband modes.

It is at 79 Wistfull Vista.

McGee, don't open that closet again... ... ... ... too late!

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , (N2EY)
writes:

I notice that she hasn't gone back at anybody with a single rebuttal.

That's changed, but it's basically a preaching session.

Does this mean we can expect another Sermon On The Antenna Mount
soon?

Show us the Righteousness of the True Path...

It should be apparent to you, Leonard. They're discussing matters
dealing with amateur radio. You've delivered bushels of sermons here
but you have zip to do with amateur radio. Instead, you entertain us
with tales of how the commercials do things and of your military
exploits of fifty years back.

Your claims of being here only to engage in civil debate on morse
testing elimination ring very hollow.

Dave K8MN

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Leo
writes:

On 05 Feb 2004 05:32:30 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

In article , Dave Heil male impersonator
writes:

LOL, SCAOTP

OK, Len, that's it - you owe me a new keyboard for that one.....this
one's covered in coffee now, an^% jhfsd75 87t8 *^%^ 94w057y

Download a new keyboard from Ten-Tec. Charge it to my account:
Heil's Hum Radio and Storm Door Company.

[used to be an earlier airline outfit under a woman CEO...]


outer space for rent...

"Snarly dave, I'm just trying to discuss the morse code test issue."

--Leonard H. Anderson, 5 Feb. 2004

Dave K8MN

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil Fibber
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil male impersonator
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:
Some Tums would ease your gaz pains.

You wouldn't know Martinez if he had a leather suit instead of scales.

Really? I beg to differ. At any rate, how would you be in a position
to know what I know?

Extras shouldn't beg. That's unseemly.

ANYONE'S "in a position to know" you don't know, snarly dave.

You aren't anyone.

Four neurons can't hold more than 16 bits of data.

N2EY: "Besides, here's a simple, plain fact:

No matter what job, educational level, employer, or
government/military service that a radio amateur has, if said radio
amateur opposes Mr. Anderson's views, he/she will be the target of Mr.
Anderson's insults, ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic
slurs, excessive emoticons and general infantile behavior."


Hello? Ever hear of Shannon's Law and the relationship of data rate
versus bandwidth? It's fairly simple math and proportional. That
means it can be SCALED as in relationship of numbers.

That is simply more misdirection on your part.

Hokay...the entire rest of the radio world is familiar with Shannon's
Law and the mathematical relationship of bandwidth, noise,
information rate, and probability of error. They agree it is correct.

But, as an amateur you disagree, calling it "misdirection."

Wrong, friendly old gent. As an amateur, I don't disagree with Shannon.
I disagree with your misdirection with talk of Shannon and scaling when
you were asked if PSK-31 is wideband.

You need more than four neurons, senior alzheimer. Download some
from Ten-Tec and improve your cognitive capability.

Ten-Tec has only firmware upgrades, Foghorn Lenhorn. They can't fix
your inability to answer a question.

Tell us about the new wideband modes.

Why?

Because you were asked about them and responded with some drivel about
PSK-31.

You are an amateur keeping alive the Living Museum of
Archaic Radio and imagining you are in a Star Trek universe with
matter transporters.

Yes, I'm a radio amateur. You got that much correct. Then you got
tangled up when you couldn't decide if I'm pursuing the past or the
future.

On-off carrier keying is the limit of your profound radio knowledge.

N2EY: "Besides, here's a simple, plain fact:

No matter what job, educational level, employer, or
government/military service that a radio amateur has, if said radio
amateur opposes Mr. Anderson's views, he/she will be the target of Mr.
Anderson's insults, ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic
slurs, excessive emoticons and general infantile behavior."

We can't disappoint you with reality of the rest of the radio world.
You are a proud and noble amateur, better than all professionals.

Who is "we"?

I am a proud radio amateur and I spent a career in radio as a
professional. You, on the other hand...



You don't seem to be able to
address the question about wideband modes.

It is at 79 Wistfull Vista.

....Apartment PSK-31.

Dave K8MN

In article , Dave Heil Ding Dong Schoolmaster
writes:

It should be apparent to you, Leonard. They're discussing matters
dealing with amateur radio.

Yes, Janet Jackson's breast, U.S. foreign policy, the local
weather, national societal morals to name just four common
"amateur radio" subjects.

:-)

You've delivered bushels of sermons here
but you have zip to do with amateur radio.

And snarly dave has delivered tonnes of diatribes against individuals
for having the temerity to disagree with a radio god such as He!

So...is there anything NEW? :-)

Instead, you entertain us
with tales of how the commercials do things and of your military
exploits of fifty years back.

You don't seem very entertained? Shall I strap on my Haney plates?

"Military exploits?" I don't think I've ever exploited anyone while
serving my country in the U.S. Army.

Okay, maybe a couple gals in Red Bank, New Jersey, but that was
long ago, probably before you got diapers.

Your claims of being here only to engage in civil debate on morse
testing elimination ring very hollow.

The Ding Dong Schoolmaster done ring his chimes!


Snarly dave, don't they have any rest homes in your neck of the woods?
You could go out there and berate some Alzheimer's patient about
losing their memory and not getting a ham license.

Better yet, accost an Orthodox Jew and start lecturing them about ham.

That's your style, what else you do for kicks? [as if anyone cared]

Go play with your orion. Amaze yourself. Have an oriongasm.

LHA / WMD

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

"Snarly dave, I'm just trying to discuss the morse code test issue."

--Leonard H. Anderson, 5 Feb. 2004

Snarly dave, I'm just trying to discuss the morse code test issue.

Leonard H. Anderson, 6 February 2004



Laminate that and put it in your wallet, Herr Robust.

Can't you access the NTS to send your Nastygrams via ham radio?

Now quit trying to close-order drill the inhabitants of here. Your
SS rank was never qualified for pushing around newsgroupies.

LHA / WMD

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil Fibber
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil male
impersonator
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:
Some Tums would ease your gaz pains.

You wouldn't know Martinez if he had a leather suit instead of
scales.

Really? I beg to differ. At any rate, how would you be in a position
to know what I know?

Extras shouldn't beg. That's unseemly.

ANYONE'S "in a position to know" you don't know, snarly dave.

You aren't anyone.

Not even chopped liver?

(snarly dave won't get it, goyishe as he are...:-)



N2EY: "Besides, here's a simple, plain fact:

No matter what job, educational level, employer, or
government/military service that a radio amateur has, if said radio
amateur opposes Mr. Anderson's views, he/she will be the target of Mr.
Anderson's insults, ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic
slurs, excessive emoticons and general infantile behavior."

Ah...still having to quote others. No originality left. Tsk, tsk.

Arf, arg, the little doggie keeps yipping a vendetta.

Git along, little doggie...



Wrong, friendly old gent. As an amateur, I don't disagree with Shannon.

Heh. You can't even comprehend Claude Elwood's 1948 paper.


I disagree with your misdirection with talk of Shannon and scaling when
you were asked if PSK-31 is wideband.

Disagreement noted. And noted. And noted. And noted.

(I hope Office Max has enough note paper for your effronts)


Ten-Tec has only firmware upgrades, Foghorn Lenhorn. They can't fix
your inability to answer a question.

Oh? There was a QUESTION?!?!?

Herr Robust is now the Questionmeister in here?

Ach zo! Seig heil das questionmeister! Gruss gott.


Because you were asked about them and responded with some drivel about
PSK-31.

Drivel questions get drivel answers. That's only fair...


Yes, I'm a radio amateur. You got that much correct.

Amateur...not only in radio. :-)


N2EY: "Besides, here's a simple, plain fact:

Bleep bleep expletive deleted... :-)

Still no signs of originality. Tsk, tsk. Have you thought of attending an
adult night school class in Written English?


I am a proud radio amateur and I spent a career in radio as a
professional. You, on the other hand...

PROUD! Do you have dress blues you wear with a ceremonial
sword? Do you sing "The Amateur's Hymn" and say catch-phrases
like "distemper fidelis?" Do you celebrate Hamorial Day at the
Tomb of the Unknown Amateur? A little hamflag flutters from
the amateur antenna of your SUV? You attend Mass formation at
the Church of St. Hiram every Field Day?

Is your First General Order "I shall key my code in a military manner,
keeping always on the alert and observing all the stations within
sight and hearing?" Do you do close-order drill with slung HTs?

Snarly dave, I betcha you got one of those shiny shield badges
that proclaims you a "raddio kopp" in a neat real-leather buzzer
holder!

I'll bet you go up to strangers on the street, grab them by the collar
and shout "I am fully authorized by the federal authorities to operate
a ham radio station!" Must make you feel proud as all-get-out.

Official. Authoritative. Boring. Get out.

You don't seem to be able to
address the question about wideband modes.

It is at 79 Wistfull Vista.

...Apartment PSK-31.

Such a baby. "79 Wistfull Vista" was the address of Fibber McGee
and Molly. Old radio show. Entertained millions once a week on
radio. You are too young to hear of it? Tsk, tsk. On RADIO, snarly
dave, on RADIO. You missed all that fun while prepping for your
rank, status, privilege as a mighty macho morseman as a fully
authorized (by a federal government) radio AMATEUR!






I now return control of the newsgroup to amateur radio policy
subjects such as Janet Jackson's breast...

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil Ding Dong Schoolmaster
writes:

It should be apparent to you, Leonard. They're discussing matters
dealing with amateur radio.

Yes, Janet Jackson's breast, U.S. foreign policy, the local
weather, national societal morals to name just four common
"amateur radio" subjects.

:-)

There's your problem! In the post to which you responded, amateur radio
was indeed under discussion.

You've delivered bushels of sermons here
but you have zip to do with amateur radio.

And snarly dave has delivered tonnes of diatribes against individuals
for having the temerity to disagree with a radio god such as He!

Again, Leona, my total posts in eight years would equal about two weeks
of your newsgroup output. Have the several of you reached a concensus
yet as to whether I'm a radio god?

Instead, you entertain us
with tales of how the commercials do things and of your military
exploits of fifty years back.

You don't seem very entertained? Shall I strap on my Haney plates?

Which ones--the decorative light switch plates by Anne Haney, the
photographic plates from the R.J. Haney Heritage Park, or "The Optimist"
plates by Jill Haney? No matter, strap 'em on. It'll spiff up your
act.

"Military exploits?" I don't think I've ever exploited anyone while
serving my country in the U.S. Army.

Oh, I'll bet you're just being modest.

Okay, maybe a couple gals in Red Bank, New Jersey, but that was
long ago, probably before you got diapers.

I shudder to think what particular acts in which you and the girls from
Red Bank were involved, which required diapers.

Your claims of being here only to engage in civil debate on morse
testing elimination ring very hollow.

The Ding Dong Schoolmaster done ring his chimes!

Snarly dave, don't they have any rest homes in your neck of the woods?
You could go out there and berate some Alzheimer's patient about
losing their memory and not getting a ham license.

Izzat your problem, that you suffer from Alzheimer's and that you've
lost your memory and forgot to go for that Extra you wrote of? I don't
know of any local non-hams posting here.

Better yet, accost an Orthodox Jew and start lecturing them about ham.

What an utterly strange thing for you to write.

Dave K8MN