In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:


And Brain, you have indeed, in public, failed...

Your only contribution in here seems to be one of FIGHTING your
own little personal battles with imaginary foes and generally
coming unglued at the slightest provocation. That's unstable
behavior, obvious to lay people.

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(William) writes:

Perhaps a third personality, Don Quixoterobeson?

I think it's more like Done Peyoterobeson...

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Perhaps a third personality, Don Quixoterobeson?

I think it's more like Done Peyoterobeson...

That could explain a lot!

It's one possibility...and no one need worry Cervantes fans with that.

Given the royal "we" he insists on used, there may be another
personality. Rather than borrow from Cervantes and use "Sancho
Panza" I think that this other personality is more like Pancho Villa.

That fits the widely exhibited rage and anger demonstrated in posts
by him. Unfortunately, Pancho Villa didn't succeed in real life. :-)

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(William) wrote in message
.com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...

As for how many "pesonalities" (at this point your "mentor" would
whoop-and-holler about how mad you were since you uttered a typo...),

I make typo's, but its just poor hand placement on the keyboard or
mispelled word.

It is your assertion that typo = seething rage.

Again...YOU ARE IN ERROR...

Your postings are, and have been evidenciary of consistent rage and
anger against anyone who disagrees with you.

What I have stated is that said mistakes are "rage" as
defined by "your mentor", that being Lennie.

Everyone can see the actual rage in hundreds of postings.

Such rage is only intensified by someone pointing out what
already exists.

It is NOT my assertion that it is such. Ask around, Brain...YOUR
attribution is WRONG.

Not at all. It is correct and to the point.

Refusal to acknowledge what everyone else can see is only denial on
your part.

coming from a guy who keeps changing his screen names,

Keeps? First change in about four (4) years. I got a whopping four
(4) spam emails today on my real email account since posting under
this throwaway screen name.

I have zero. So what's YOUR problem...?!?!

Did "K4CAP" exist four years ago? :-)

Did the long, libelous fictious screen name you tried to use on AOL
to put an even more gross libelous distortion of one individual in an
AOL home page? It only existed for three days but some saw it.
AOL member services wiped that home page clean and took away
your new, extra screen name.

Others, particularly AOL members, can find out that there are
several screen names under your single account.

So, you've tried to bluff through another very wrong statement. You
will not acknowledge that those screen names exist and your only
comeback will be misdirections into more personal insults.

I'd rethink
making such a silly insinuation...

Not silly. I know of at least two of your personalities.

1. Over-the-top, and

2. Major-Whacked-Out.

OK, Brain...if you insist. As long as it makes you feel warm and
fuzzy to hold on to it.

Reality isn't making warm and fuzzy. Reality can be harsh, cruel.

Stay in your little imaginary world where you are safe, even if nuts.

You need to relax. Go away from the Internet and play with your
radios. The Internet is full of those who have and can put you down.

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

It's one possibility...and no one need worry Cervantes fans with that.

Given the royal "we" he insists on used, there may be another
personality. Rather than borrow from Cervantes and use "Sancho
Panza" I think that this other personality is more like Pancho Villa.

That fits the widely exhibited rage and anger demonstrated in posts
by him. Unfortunately, Pancho Villa didn't succeed in real life. :-)

LHA / WMD

I think we sent Pershing and McArthur after Pancho. On rrap,
Panchorobeson gets a pass.

He is a "gorilla fighter" and wants to join the "gorilla forces" on
Isla Flacka. :-)

[...those who've never watched the Carson show with guest Reni
Santoni won't understand that... :-) ]

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

It's one possibility...and no one need worry Cervantes fans with that.

Given the royal "we" he insists on used, there may be another
personality. Rather than borrow from Cervantes and use "Sancho
Panza" I think that this other personality is more like Pancho Villa.

That fits the widely exhibited rage and anger demonstrated in posts
by him. Unfortunately, Pancho Villa didn't succeed in real life. :-)

LHA / WMD

I think we sent Pershing and McArthur after Pancho. On rrap,
Panchorobeson gets a pass.

He is a "gorilla fighter" and wants to join the "gorilla forces" on
Isla Flacka. :-)

[...those who've never watched the Carson show with guest Reni
Santoni won't understand that... :-) ]

The Carson Show? Johnny Carson? Aren't you the guy always singing the
song about others living in the past?

Dave K8MN

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

The Carson Show? Johnny Carson? Aren't you the guy always singing the
song about others living in the past?

Johnny Carson is still living and around here.

Go discuss the higher plains of National Economics and Kosher
Food with TAFKARJ and all the Ham Gurus. Lots of exciting
stuff there NOT about amateur radio.

LHA / WMD

Are you keeping count of your new knicknames Steve? They 're coming hard
and fast!

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...Leonard H Anderson.

Yeah...right...

Since his claim has been proven to be false so many times, Steve, why do you
bother with him?

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Are you keeping count of your new knicknames Steve? They 're coming hard
and fast!

Not near as fast as the gunnery nurse is inventing new pejoratives.

He is too busy basking in the attention he gets in this Chat Room
to pay attention. Today's download of messages seems to be all
about hisself and trying to put down his perceived "enemies."

Those all result in verbal enemas.

Now go back to your terribly amateur-radio-meaningful discussions
of the whichness of the what of National Economy, College and
University Education, Kosher Food, and whatever thread mutations
occur to avoid any ham radio tawk.

Morse code testing is starting to disappear among the world's
administrations regulations for their amateur radio licensing (see
the start of this thread, way back when in the veldt).

Are you into denial about the subject or did you think the ham
license made you all gurus on NON-amateur-radio subjects?

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Get home
delivery of kosher food so you won't be hungry...

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...

YOU are the one who always insists that typos are indicative of
"rage". I ahve NEVER stated that except to sarcastically throw it
back at YOU when you do it yourself.

But Quixoterobeson, you're always in a rage. So when you commit
typo's, you're in a... rage.

So how did Len get it wrong?

Doesn't matter, Brian, to the gunnery nurse I'm either lying, a putz,
or scum, or any combination thereof. :-)

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(William) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...Leonard H Anderson.

Yeah...right...

Since his claim has been proven to be false so many times, Steve, why do
you
bother with him?

73 de Jim, N2EY

TAFKARJ, my theory is that he can't help himmself. He is obsessed with Len.

There's more to that than is apparent on the surface.

The PCTAs all use misdirection via questions or "challenges" on other
subjects in order to divert the thread away from the morse code test
issue. By being sufficiently inflamatory, those misdirections now
attract others who just want to fight and holler at others. The threads
diverge and take on new subjects and the PCTAs are saved...their
arguments for retention of the code test were not viable so they feel
secure in not having "lost."

TAFKARJ uses the newsgroup as a Chat Room to talk about almost
anything BUT the morse code test and ventures far, far afield from
amateur radio policy subjects, so far that they don't include any
amateur radio at all. He wants to be an essayist.

Mr. Foreign Service (who doesn't know that the Amana Colonies are
in Iowa!) simply wants to fight. He isn't quite so obsessed as the
gunnery nurse but he has the arrogance of an SA fairy. He likes to
use the misdirection of "He's an amateur and I ain't" (in varying words)
therefore trying to imply that I am "nothing." :-)

The gunnery nurse is just nuts and can't get his act together. He
can't take the slightest negative comment without going berserk.

A common trait among them is one of Control. They want (perhaps
need) to moderate the newsgroup to their view, their opinions, their
personal likes/dislikes. Control and Ego together to build the concept
of righteous service to the nation by being hams.

Amateur radio is supposed to be an enjoyable hobby. But, with the
tree regulars mentioned above (up a tree without a piddle), it's all
one of being inordinately proud of their imaginary world and a desire
to be respected because of that Belief.

The morse code test is being removed from the regulations of many
nations' amateur radio. PCTAs cannot abide by that. They remain
in denial since loss of the morse test is a loss to their self-esteem.
They can't use that mighty morse test as a bragging point if it is
eliminated. "If they had to take a morse test, EVERYBODY has to
take a morse test to be as 'good' as they."

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...Leonard H Anderson.

Yeah...right...

Since his claim has been proven to be false so many times, Steve, why do
you
bother with him?

73 de Jim, N2EY

TAFKARJ, my theory is that he can't help himmself. He is obsessed with
Len.

There's more to that than is apparent on the surface.

The PCTAs all use misdirection via questions or "challenges" on other
subjects in order to divert the thread away from the morse code test
issue.

Talk about obsessed.

No, the subject is the morse code test. It is not about Control by
PCTA or the incessant name-calling done by yourself.

The Morse Code test issue is being respolved in Washington and
Gettysburg via the NPRM process.

Absolutely incorrect.

As of this date there is NO new Notice of Proposed Rulemaking
(NPRM) concerning Part 97, Title 47 C.F.R.

So far there have only been 14 PETITIONS given a docket and
shown to the public with comments invited.

There is a PROPOSED petition by the ARRL which, so far, is only
seen by the public on the ARRL website. The FCC has not given
it a docket number nor shown it on its website.

"Gettysburg?" Someone gave you the wrong Gettysburg Address.

All indicators are that it will be
deleted, or at least reserved for the highest class (and greatest
breadth of priviledges...Mostly in parts of the spectrum where only
Morse Code can be sued anyway...).

Are you going to "sue" the government to make morse code testing
there forever and ever?

There are NO "all indicators." You are imagining the FCC and ARRL
are one and the same insofar as regulations are concerned.

The ARRL supposed "petition" remains on their website. It is NOT
a petition with invitation for public commentary from the FCC.

ARRL does NOT make amateur radio regulations. It only implies
it does.

ARRL still has membership LESS than a quarter of all licensed U.S.
radio amateurs. ARRL is therefore a MINORITY special-interest
group.

There's no "misdirection", Yuor Scumminess.

YES there is. Your posting is an example. Total IGNORANT
rambling trying to "draw fire" (so to speak) coupled with both
name-calling and rage-induced typing mistakes ("Yuor").

If you had any sincerity about discussing any subject matter (you
obviously don't, only want to fight), then you would have identified
the difference in FCC docket subjects and what they mean.

You obviously don't know them.

The FCC has made definitions of NPRMs, NOIs, (petitions for) RMs
available to the public long before the Internet was formed, before
the Internet went public access.

You should, but obviously don't even after a long licensed period,
at least acquaint yourself (if you can't learn) with the rule-making
process AND who is in charge of amateur radio regulations.

Hint: ARRL is NOT in charge, never was.

And if you'd ANSWER some of the questions, they MIGHT go away, IF
you have a valid answer for them..."I don't HAVE to answer and you
can't make me" is pretty sophmoric...nothing less that we expect from
you and PuppetBoy, however.

You are NOT the moderator in here.

You are NOT some kind of "official" in this newsgroup who can demand
answers.

You are NOT any sort of "NCO" Dill Instructor and this is NOT the
corps.

You are NOT anything but a poor deluded and ignorant petty person
trying to control others by insults, innuendo, and ignorant ramblings
of suppositions from an obviously NOT-insider.

Stop trying to impose your own personal fantasy on others. You
can NOT transform reality to suit yourself...try to suit yourself to
the reality. Accomplish that and you've made yourself acceptible
to others.

Right now you are NOT acceptible.

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

You are NOT anything but a poor deluded and ignorant petty person
trying to control others by insults, innuendo, and ignorant ramblings
of suppositions from an obviously NOT-insider.

Wow, Len! That paragraph pretty much sums up your actions here.

Stop trying to impose your own personal fantasy on others. You
can NOT transform reality to suit yourself...try to suit yourself to
the reality. Accomplish that and you've made yourself acceptible
to others.

This one sounds a lot like you too! Your personal fantasy of somehow
being a part of amateur radio and outlining the regulations under which
amateur radio should be governed is the stuff of legend. You must
realize that you can't transform reality to suit yourself. Maybe you
should work on trying to make yourself acceptible to others.

Dave K8MN

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...Leonard H Anderson.

Yeah...right...

Since his claim has been proven to be false so many times, Steve, why do
you
bother with him?

73 de Jim, N2EY

TAFKARJ, my theory is that he can't help himmself. He is obsessed with Len.

There's more to that than is apparent on the surface.

The PCTAs all use misdirection via questions or "challenges" on other
subjects in order to divert the thread away from the morse code test
issue. By being sufficiently inflamatory, those misdirections now
attract others who just want to fight and holler at others. The threads
diverge and take on new subjects and the PCTAs are saved...their
arguments for retention of the code test were not viable so they feel
secure in not having "lost."

You mean that it is like your recent shuffle and twirl on amateur
radio's involvement in the L.A. Marathon--the one you watched, read
about in the paper and spoke about with an unnamed race official? You
certainly did some misdirection after being provided with those url
links.

TAFKARJ uses the newsgroup as a Chat Room to talk about almost
anything BUT the morse code test and ventures far, far afield from
amateur radio policy subjects, so far that they don't include any
amateur radio at all. He wants to be an essayist.

Don't be modest, Len. Jim's output pales to yours. You write as if you
were being paid by the word.

Mr. Foreign Service (who doesn't know that the Amana Colonies are
in Iowa!) simply wants to fight. He isn't quite so obsessed as the
gunnery nurse but he has the arrogance of an SA fairy. He likes to
use the misdirection of "He's an amateur and I ain't" (in varying words)
therefore trying to imply that I am "nothing." :-)

Believe me, Len. You're "something" but you aren't involved in any
capacity with amateur radio.

When you have some spare time (and you seem to have plenty of that), why
not put forth one of your lengthy pieces on these newly found Amana
Colonies. I'm sure you'll hold us spellbound.

The gunnery nurse is just nuts and can't get his act together. He
can't take the slightest negative comment without going berserk.

A common trait among them is one of Control. They want (perhaps
need) to moderate the newsgroup to their view, their opinions, their
personal likes/dislikes. Control and Ego together to build the concept
of righteous service to the nation by being hams.

Talk about control! How about a fellow who is not a participant in nor
a regulator of amateur radio who would tell us how amateur radio should
be regulated? How about one who would set a minimum age for entry into
amateur radio or one who would dictate whether morse testing should be
part of amateur radio license testing? Try reining in your gusto for
control and that ego of yours.

Amateur radio is supposed to be an enjoyable hobby. But, with the
tree regulars mentioned above (up a tree without a piddle), it's all
one of being inordinately proud of their imaginary world and a desire
to be respected because of that Belief.

Ham radio is an enjoyable hobby. You'll have to take my word for it.
It isn't an imaginary world at all. It is a world with over 600,000
individuals licensed just in the U.S. That you don't respect any who
hold those licenses reads like more of your "Fox and the Grapes"
routine.

The morse code test is being removed from the regulations of many
nations' amateur radio. PCTAs cannot abide by that. They remain
in denial since loss of the morse test is a loss to their self-esteem.

Not abiding isn't the same as not approving or working against. It has
nothing to do with self-esteem since many of us have passed a number of
morse exams. Worry about your own self-esteem. After all, you're the
guy who is on the sidelines.

They can't use that mighty morse test as a bragging point if it is
eliminated.

Sure they can. Elimination of a morse test or reduction in morse
testing speed doesn't mean they never took or passed such a test.
You're brag-yet-to-come of an "Extra right out of the box" is another
matter.
You can't brag if you didn't take the action. You haven't done so.

"If they had to take a morse test, EVERYBODY has to
take a morse test to be as 'good' as they."

Really? I'll let you know about it the first time I run into someone on
the bands who has never taken a morse test and who can copy 35 or 40
wpm.

Dave K8MN

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

The Carson Show? Johnny Carson? Aren't you the guy always singing the
song about others living in the past?

Johnny Carson is still living and around here.

Is he doing a late night, public access cable show?

Dave K8MN