In article , Alun
writes:

it is bizarre to greet
the end of the code requirement by suggesting a new licence with a code
test.

Why?

The revised treaty says that each country shall determine for itself what the
code test requirements for an amateur license will be. It appears that South
Africa is in the process of determining what it shall be for South Africa.
Perhaps there will be no test, or no change, or something in between.

And Jim, I didn't say it was a bad idea to have a dual track system with
code and theory alternatives. It's actually quite a good one. No doubt now
someone will put that in petition number 18, or whatever number we are up
to now.

I first suggested such a thing several years ago in my "Chinese Menu" license
concept. The idea was that there would be a "core" test requirement for the
lowest level of license, and upgrading could be accomplished by accumulating
credits in a variety of ways, such as specialized written tests, and code
tests.

I won't though, because it isn't going to happen.

Why not? Nobody has suggested it yet in the USA because in the past it would
have violated the treaty to have an HF license with no code test. Now it could
be done.

We don't know exactly
what the FCC will do, but we do know two things that they are on record as
saying:-

1) They don't beleive that the code test serves a useful purpose;

Not true!

They said it "serves no *regulatory* purpose"

2) They won't rearrange subbands until a consensus emerges amongst us.

I sure hope they don't!

So, we do know really (although some are in denial) that the NPRM will dump
Element 1 completely.

It ain't over until it's over, and even then it ain't over.

We can be rather less sure what it will do to reform the unnecessary
proliferation of licence classes,

What "proliferation"? We have 6 right now, with one scheduled to disappear in a
little over six years even if no rules changes at all are made. Two others are
disappearing by attrition.

and the equally unneccessary slicing and
dicing of the ham bands that goes with it.

Would you have only one class of license and no subbands by mode?

I hope it might do something in
this regard, but it is perhaps more likely that it will do nothing, or at
least as little as possible, as they probably will decide that we still
don't agree with oneanother.

And we don't.

73 de Jim, N2EY

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article , Alun
writes:

it is bizarre to greet
the end of the code requirement by suggesting a new licence with a code
test.

Why?

Because, TAFKARJ, the country already has coded licenses. And they've
had since 1912 to perfect them. Now its time for them to try
something new and different, but instead they get more of the same.
Can't think outside the box.

(William) wrote in
om:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article , Alun
writes:

it is bizarre to greet
the end of the code requirement by suggesting a new licence with a
code test.

Why?

Because, TAFKARJ, the country already has coded licenses. And they've
had since 1912 to perfect them. Now its time for them to try
something new and different, but instead they get more of the same.
Can't think outside the box.


I agree that Jim is being a little obdurate, but don't lose sight of the
fact that South Africa have dropped that plan. They at least are somewhat
open to persuasion.

(William) wrote in message . com...

Because, TAFKARJ, the country already has coded licenses. And they've
had since 1912 to perfect them. Now its time for them to try
something new and different, but instead they get more of the same.
Can't think outside the box.

Again with teh belittlements where no belittlement in kind existed.

And you mean can't think outside YOUR box...

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message . com...

Because, TAFKARJ, the country already has coded licenses. And they've
had since 1912 to perfect them. Now its time for them to try
something new and different, but instead they get more of the same.
Can't think outside the box.

Again with teh belittlements where no belittlement in kind existed.

And you mean can't think outside YOUR box...

Steve, K4YZ


What belittlements, Stebe?

(William) wrote in message

What belittlements, Stebe?

You really need to ask? The you ARE the idiot I have surmised all along.

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message

What belittlements, Stebe?

You really need to ask? The you ARE the idiot I have surmised all along.

Steve, K4YZ

Such as your incessant use of "Brain" instead of using my name?

And now you want to call me on the carpet for using TAFKA Rev. Jim???

You just renewed your membership in the KMA Club.

(William) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message

What belittlements, Stebe?

You really need to ask? The you ARE the idiot I have surmised all along.

Steve, K4YZ

Such as your incessant use of "Brain" instead of using my name?

And now you want to call me on the carpet for using TAFKA Rev. Jim???

You just renewed your membership in the KMA Club.

I am not the one who sets the rules, Brain.

You make a fool out of yourself in a public forum...I
sarcastically call you "Brain" since you keep on doing it over and
over.

As for the "KMA" club, thanks...Sure is embarrassing having a
membership that much junior to YOURS, though....

Steve, K4YZ