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#2
March 14th 04, 05:58 AM
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(William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...Leonard H Anderson. Yeah...right... Since his claim has been proven to be false so many times, Steve, why do you bother with him? 73 de Jim, N2EY TAFKARJ, my theory is that he can't help himmself. He is obsessed with Len. There's more to that than is apparent on the surface. The PCTAs all use misdirection via questions or "challenges" on other subjects in order to divert the thread away from the morse code test issue. By being sufficiently inflamatory, those misdirections now attract others who just want to fight and holler at others. The threads diverge and take on new subjects and the PCTAs are saved...their arguments for retention of the code test were not viable so they feel secure in not having "lost." TAFKARJ uses the newsgroup as a Chat Room to talk about almost anything BUT the morse code test and ventures far, far afield from amateur radio policy subjects, so far that they don't include any amateur radio at all. He wants to be an essayist. Mr. Foreign Service (who doesn't know that the Amana Colonies are in Iowa!) simply wants to fight. He isn't quite so obsessed as the gunnery nurse but he has the arrogance of an SA fairy. He likes to use the misdirection of "He's an amateur and I ain't" (in varying words) therefore trying to imply that I am "nothing." :-) The gunnery nurse is just nuts and can't get his act together. He can't take the slightest negative comment without going berserk. A common trait among them is one of Control. They want (perhaps need) to moderate the newsgroup to their view, their opinions, their personal likes/dislikes. Control and Ego together to build the concept of righteous service to the nation by being hams. Amateur radio is supposed to be an enjoyable hobby. But, with the tree regulars mentioned above (up a tree without a piddle), it's all one of being inordinately proud of their imaginary world and a desire to be respected because of that Belief. The morse code test is being removed from the regulations of many nations' amateur radio. PCTAs cannot abide by that. They remain in denial since loss of the morse test is a loss to their self-esteem. They can't use that mighty morse test as a bragging point if it is eliminated. "If they had to take a morse test, EVERYBODY has to take a morse test to be as 'good' as they." LHA / WMD |
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#3
March 14th 04, 03:21 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...Leonard H Anderson. Yeah...right... Since his claim has been proven to be false so many times, Steve, why do you bother with him? 73 de Jim, N2EY TAFKARJ, my theory is that he can't help himmself. He is obsessed with Len. There's more to that than is apparent on the surface. The PCTAs all use misdirection via questions or "challenges" on other subjects in order to divert the thread away from the morse code test issue. Talk about obsessed. The Morse Code test issue is being respolved in Washington and Gettysburg via the NPRM process. All indicators are that it will be deleted, or at least reserved for the highest class (and greatest breadth of priviledges...Mostly in parts of the spectrum where only Morse Code can be sued anyway...). There's no "misdirection", Yuor Scumminess. And if you'd ANSWER some of the questions, they MIGHT go away, IF you have a valid answer for them..."I don't HAVE to answer and you can't make me" is pretty sophmoric...nothing less that we expect from you and PuppetBoy, however. Steve, K4YZ |
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#4
March 14th 04, 06:36 PM
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In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...Leonard H Anderson. Yeah...right... Since his claim has been proven to be false so many times, Steve, why do you bother with him? 73 de Jim, N2EY TAFKARJ, my theory is that he can't help himmself. He is obsessed with Len. There's more to that than is apparent on the surface. The PCTAs all use misdirection via questions or "challenges" on other subjects in order to divert the thread away from the morse code test issue. Talk about obsessed. No, the subject is the morse code test. It is not about Control by PCTA or the incessant name-calling done by yourself. The Morse Code test issue is being respolved in Washington and Gettysburg via the NPRM process. Absolutely incorrect. As of this date there is NO new Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) concerning Part 97, Title 47 C.F.R. So far there have only been 14 PETITIONS given a docket and shown to the public with comments invited. There is a PROPOSED petition by the ARRL which, so far, is only seen by the public on the ARRL website. The FCC has not given it a docket number nor shown it on its website. "Gettysburg?" Someone gave you the wrong Gettysburg Address. All indicators are that it will be deleted, or at least reserved for the highest class (and greatest breadth of priviledges...Mostly in parts of the spectrum where only Morse Code can be sued anyway...). Are you going to "sue" the government to make morse code testing there forever and ever? There are NO "all indicators." You are imagining the FCC and ARRL are one and the same insofar as regulations are concerned. The ARRL supposed "petition" remains on their website. It is NOT a petition with invitation for public commentary from the FCC. ARRL does NOT make amateur radio regulations. It only implies it does. ARRL still has membership LESS than a quarter of all licensed U.S. radio amateurs. ARRL is therefore a MINORITY special-interest group. There's no "misdirection", Yuor Scumminess. YES there is. Your posting is an example. Total IGNORANT rambling trying to "draw fire" (so to speak) coupled with both name-calling and rage-induced typing mistakes ("Yuor"). If you had any sincerity about discussing any subject matter (you obviously don't, only want to fight), then you would have identified the difference in FCC docket subjects and what they mean. You obviously don't know them. The FCC has made definitions of NPRMs, NOIs, (petitions for) RMs available to the public long before the Internet was formed, before the Internet went public access. You should, but obviously don't even after a long licensed period, at least acquaint yourself (if you can't learn) with the rule-making process AND who is in charge of amateur radio regulations. Hint: ARRL is NOT in charge, never was. And if you'd ANSWER some of the questions, they MIGHT go away, IF you have a valid answer for them..."I don't HAVE to answer and you can't make me" is pretty sophmoric...nothing less that we expect from you and PuppetBoy, however. You are NOT the moderator in here. You are NOT some kind of "official" in this newsgroup who can demand answers. You are NOT any sort of "NCO" Dill Instructor and this is NOT the corps. You are NOT anything but a poor deluded and ignorant petty person trying to control others by insults, innuendo, and ignorant ramblings of suppositions from an obviously NOT-insider. Stop trying to impose your own personal fantasy on others. You can NOT transform reality to suit yourself...try to suit yourself to the reality. Accomplish that and you've made yourself acceptible to others. Right now you are NOT acceptible. LHA / WMD |
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#5
March 15th 04, 03:41 PM
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Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: You are NOT anything but a poor deluded and ignorant petty person trying to control others by insults, innuendo, and ignorant ramblings of suppositions from an obviously NOT-insider. Wow, Len! That paragraph pretty much sums up your actions here. Stop trying to impose your own personal fantasy on others. You can NOT transform reality to suit yourself...try to suit yourself to the reality. Accomplish that and you've made yourself acceptible to others. This one sounds a lot like you too! Your personal fantasy of somehow being a part of amateur radio and outlining the regulations under which amateur radio should be governed is the stuff of legend. You must realize that you can't transform reality to suit yourself. Maybe you should work on trying to make yourself acceptible to others. Dave K8MN |
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#6
March 14th 04, 07:45 PM
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...Leonard H Anderson. Yeah...right... Since his claim has been proven to be false so many times, Steve, why do you bother with him? 73 de Jim, N2EY TAFKARJ, my theory is that he can't help himmself. He is obsessed with Len. There's more to that than is apparent on the surface. The PCTAs all use misdirection via questions or "challenges" on other subjects in order to divert the thread away from the morse code test issue. Talk about obsessed. The Morse Code test issue is being respolved in Washington and Gettysburg via the NPRM process. All indicators are that it will be deleted, or at least reserved for the highest class (and greatest breadth of priviledges...Mostly in parts of the spectrum where only Morse Code can be sued anyway...). Morse can be sued? Now there's a tactic that hasn't been tried yet. There's no "misdirection", Yuor Scumminess. Yuoza! And if you'd ANSWER some of the questions, they MIGHT go away, Only to be replaced by more questions. IF you have a valid answer for them..."I don't HAVE to answer and you can't make me" is pretty sophmoric...nothing less that we expect from you and PuppetBoy, however. Steve, K4YZ "POP" goes the weazel. |
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#7
March 14th 04, 10:10 PM
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(William) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com... The Morse Code test issue is being respolved in Washington and Gettysburg via the NPRM process. All indicators are that it will be deleted, or at least reserved for the highest class (and greatest breadth of priviledges...Mostly in parts of the spectrum where only Morse Code can be sued anyway...). Morse can be sued? Now there's a tactic that hasn't been tried yet. There's no "misdirection", Yuor Scumminess. Yuoza! And if you'd ANSWER some of the questions, they MIGHT go away, Only to be replaced by more questions. IF you have a valid answer for them..."I don't HAVE to answer and you can't make me" is pretty sophmoric...nothing less that we expect from you and PuppetBoy, however. Steve, K4YZ "POP" goes the weazel. I consider it pretty good evidence of "mission accomplished" when all you can "reply" to are some typos, PuppetBoy... Not that I expected anything else. Steve, K4YZ |
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#8
March 15th 04, 02:50 AM
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message . com... "POP" goes the weazel. I consider it pretty good evidence of "mission accomplished" when all you can "reply" to are some typos, PuppetBoy... Seething rage is your mission? I'd say you are quite accomplished. Not that I expected anything else. Steve, K4YZ So sorry not to live up to your expectations. |
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#9
March 15th 04, 04:39 PM
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(William) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com... (William) wrote in message . com... "POP" goes the weazel. I consider it pretty good evidence of "mission accomplished" when all you can "reply" to are some typos, PuppetBoy... Seething rage is your mission? I'd say you are quite accomplished. Not that I expected anything else. Steve, K4YZ So sorry not to live up to your expectations. Oh, no! Brain! Don't be sorry! You've HAVE "lived up to (my) expectations", and MORE, for which I am sorry to say! Now...if you'd just pony up some evidence to back up all of the silly claims you've made here, or be a man and just admit you've been polishing your own brass and move on...either way you'd gain much more respect than claiming Lennie as your "mentor"...THAT was nuts! Steve, K4YZ |
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#10
March 15th 04, 04:00 PM
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Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , (William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...Leonard H Anderson. Yeah...right... Since his claim has been proven to be false so many times, Steve, why do you bother with him? 73 de Jim, N2EY TAFKARJ, my theory is that he can't help himmself. He is obsessed with Len. There's more to that than is apparent on the surface. The PCTAs all use misdirection via questions or "challenges" on other subjects in order to divert the thread away from the morse code test issue. By being sufficiently inflamatory, those misdirections now attract others who just want to fight and holler at others. The threads diverge and take on new subjects and the PCTAs are saved...their arguments for retention of the code test were not viable so they feel secure in not having "lost." You mean that it is like your recent shuffle and twirl on amateur radio's involvement in the L.A. Marathon--the one you watched, read about in the paper and spoke about with an unnamed race official? You certainly did some misdirection after being provided with those url links. TAFKARJ uses the newsgroup as a Chat Room to talk about almost anything BUT the morse code test and ventures far, far afield from amateur radio policy subjects, so far that they don't include any amateur radio at all. He wants to be an essayist. Don't be modest, Len. Jim's output pales to yours. You write as if you were being paid by the word. Mr. Foreign Service (who doesn't know that the Amana Colonies are in Iowa!) simply wants to fight. He isn't quite so obsessed as the gunnery nurse but he has the arrogance of an SA fairy. He likes to use the misdirection of "He's an amateur and I ain't" (in varying words) therefore trying to imply that I am "nothing." :-) Believe me, Len. You're "something" but you aren't involved in any capacity with amateur radio. When you have some spare time (and you seem to have plenty of that), why not put forth one of your lengthy pieces on these newly found Amana Colonies. I'm sure you'll hold us spellbound. The gunnery nurse is just nuts and can't get his act together. He can't take the slightest negative comment without going berserk. A common trait among them is one of Control. They want (perhaps need) to moderate the newsgroup to their view, their opinions, their personal likes/dislikes. Control and Ego together to build the concept of righteous service to the nation by being hams. Talk about control! How about a fellow who is not a participant in nor a regulator of amateur radio who would tell us how amateur radio should be regulated? How about one who would set a minimum age for entry into amateur radio or one who would dictate whether morse testing should be part of amateur radio license testing? Try reining in your gusto for control and that ego of yours. Amateur radio is supposed to be an enjoyable hobby. But, with the tree regulars mentioned above (up a tree without a piddle), it's all one of being inordinately proud of their imaginary world and a desire to be respected because of that Belief. Ham radio is an enjoyable hobby. You'll have to take my word for it. It isn't an imaginary world at all. It is a world with over 600,000 individuals licensed just in the U.S. That you don't respect any who hold those licenses reads like more of your "Fox and the Grapes" routine. The morse code test is being removed from the regulations of many nations' amateur radio. PCTAs cannot abide by that. They remain in denial since loss of the morse test is a loss to their self-esteem. Not abiding isn't the same as not approving or working against. It has nothing to do with self-esteem since many of us have passed a number of morse exams. Worry about your own self-esteem. After all, you're the guy who is on the sidelines. They can't use that mighty morse test as a bragging point if it is eliminated. Sure they can. Elimination of a morse test or reduction in morse testing speed doesn't mean they never took or passed such a test. You're brag-yet-to-come of an "Extra right out of the box" is another matter. You can't brag if you didn't take the action. You haven't done so. "If they had to take a morse test, EVERYBODY has to take a morse test to be as 'good' as they." Really? I'll let you know about it the first time I run into someone on the bands who has never taken a morse test and who can copy 35 or 40 wpm. Dave K8MN |
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