"KØHB" wrote in message nk.net...

My only citation from the FCC was for sending Morse code at 24WPM where
the rules specified 20WPM as maximum. Sunvagun!

Damned repeaters!

In article t, "KØHB"
writes:

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

So...ballpark the number of Amatuers at 650K...At $75/license
that is over $48M a year for the General Treasury coffers.

No it isn't, because the 650K would dwindle within a decade to somewhere
around 20K if a 10-year license renewal cost $750.00.

Then, with only 20K licensed amateurs the service would be folded up as
a poor reason to occupy the valuable spectrum it holds.


Bingo, Hans. Game, set, match.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Subject: Vanity Call fee going up in August
From: (Hans K0HB)
Date: 7/12/2004 2:32 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote

....you could SPONSOR at least 11 other guys
for THIER licenses!

More puffery and posturing, Steve?

What puffery and posturing, Hans...?!?!

I'm GLAD you quit smoking...that's one less blue puffer I have to deal
with at 3AM.

Why should I sponsor those who lack the requisite motivation,
committment, dedication, and all that other foolishness you wave about
as required for a properly devout licensee.

Of course, at $750 per license term you'd certainly weed out all but
the affluent hobbiests, now wouldn't you? (Another elitist 'outs'
himself.) Sunuvagun!

Sure do get your short hairs in a knot when you get YOUR tail twisted,
huh...?!?!

Kinda the same knot you tell everyone ELSE to "get over"...Smarts a bit,
eh...?!?!

Maybe you should start practicing a bit of which ye preach...?!?!

With warmest personal regards,

I doubt your sincerity.

de Hans, K0HB
24WPM Disciplinary Problem

de K4YZ
30+WPM non-disciplinary problem

Subject: Vanity Call fee going up in August
From: PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 7/12/2004 7:13 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article t, "KØHB"
writes:

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

So...ballpark the number of Amatuers at 650K...At $75/license
that is over $48M a year for the General Treasury coffers.

No it isn't, because the 650K would dwindle within a decade to somewhere
around 20K if a 10-year license renewal cost $750.00.

Then, with only 20K licensed amateurs the service would be folded up as
a poor reason to occupy the valuable spectrum it holds.


Bingo, Hans. Game, set, match.

Hardly, Jim.

Most of the allocations we enjoy are international allocations...not
domestic ones.

And I hardly think that even if our numbers fell by half that we'd lose
any significant part of our allocations...Not any more than what we stand to
lose right now anyway.

73

Steve, K4YZ

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


Sure do get your short hairs in a knot when you get YOUR tail twisted,
huh...?!?!


Unlike the Robeson clan, our branch of the human family tree has evolved
beyond having tails, although it might come in handy to swing out to
check the traps on my TH7. Would you consider hiring yourself out as a
trap checker, as well as your day job as Len's little red-hatted organ
monkey?

With warmest personal regards,

de Hans, K0HB

Subject: Vanity Call fee going up in August
From: "KØHB"
Date: 7/12/2004 9:05 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


Sure do get your short hairs in a knot when you get YOUR tail twisted,
huh...?!?!


Unlike the Robeson clan, our branch of the human family tree has evolved
beyond having tails...(SNIP)

Ahhhhhh....the "ad hominem" attack...The very thing that you have seeminly
placed yourself above...So it seems the Brakob clan has some issues with the
truth also...

(UNSNIP)...although it might come in handy to swing out to
check the traps on my TH7.

Ohhhhhhh......"Mine is Bigger Than Yours"...?!?!

Would you consider hiring yourself out as a
trap checker, as well as your day job as Len's little red-hatted organ
monkey?

Considering your own propensity for "Do As I Say Not Do As I Do", you'd
better check your own backside for that tail, Master Grief. The NG has many
examples of you uttering profound eruptions on what is "civil", "mature" or
"adult", yet it seems you intend for those to be the responsibility of
others...not yourself...Why?

(BTW...I can lower my traps to the ground to be checked...A lot cheaper
AND safer to work on...)

With warmest personal regards,

Still with sincerity issues, I see.

Steve, K4YZ

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

So...ballpark the number of Amatuers at 650K...At $75/license
that is over $48M a year for the General Treasury coffers.

No it isn't, because the 650K would dwindle within a decade to somewhere
around 20K if a 10-year license renewal cost $750.00.

Then, with only 20K licensed amateurs the service would be folded up as
a poor reason to occupy the valuable spectrum it holds.


Bingo, Hans. Game, set, match.

Hardly, Jim.

Most of the allocations we enjoy are international allocations...not
domestic ones.

What Hans described would not take place overnight.

And I hardly think that even if our numbers fell by half that we'd lose
any significant part of our allocations...Not any more than what we stand to
lose right now anyway.

Hans' scenario is quite realistic. If every ham in the database had to pony up
$750 for a license renewal, plus every new ham had to cough up even more for
the VE fees plus license fee, I think we'd see significant attrition. Much more
than half. Heck, at the current level of fees we're barely growing!

What do you think a $750 fee would do to the recruitment of young people into
ham radio?

Once the numbers dropped significantly, FCC could reallocate the domestic
stuff. Look at 2 meters - half of it could be taken away without treaty change.

Then, when the next WRC came along, the administration would have plenty of
justification to chnage the rules so as to take a lot more.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"KØHB" wrote in message ink.net...
"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


Sure do get your short hairs in a knot when you get YOUR tail twisted,
huh...?!?!


Unlike the Robeson clan, our branch of the human family tree has evolved
beyond having tails, although it might come in handy to swing out to
check the traps on my TH7. Would you consider hiring yourself out as a
trap checker, as well as your day job as Len's little red-hatted organ
monkey?

With warmest personal regards,

de Hans, K0HB

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi, hi!