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Bill Sohl July 13th 04 02:51 PM

USA Amateur License totals dipped about 10K this month
 
From http://ah0a.org/FCC/index.html

Total USA licenses dipped pretty significantly
this month (July). Looks to me like we'll end up July
about 10K below the peak total of 687K some months
back.

Bill K2UNK




Mike Coslo July 13th 04 03:19 PM

Bill Sohl wrote:
From http://ah0a.org/FCC/index.html

Total USA licenses dipped pretty significantly
this month (July). Looks to me like we'll end up July
about 10K below the peak total of 687K some months
back.



November 2006 has a lot of expirations too - around 11,000.


Any idea on what the cause for the surge in licensing at that time? And
I wonder if it was from 1996, or an earlier cycle?

I would have thought that the expirations would have mostly been
Technicians, but the majority are Extras. Interesting.


- Mike KB3EIA -


Bill Sohl July 13th 04 07:02 PM


"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
Bill Sohl wrote:
From http://ah0a.org/FCC/index.html

Total USA licenses dipped pretty significantly
this month (July). Looks to me like we'll end up July
about 10K below the peak total of 687K some months
back.


November 2006 has a lot of expirations too - around 11,000.

Any idea on what the cause for the surge in licensing at that time? And
I wonder if it was from 1996, or an earlier cycle?

I would have thought that the expirations would have mostly been
Technicians, but the majority are Extras. Interesting.


Mike,

I have no idea why. Maybe Jim does. The original total expirations
for July before the renewal phase started was upwards of 13K or
more. Several thousand have obviously renewed, but there's still a
big number that are probably gone.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK




WA8ULX July 13th 04 07:11 PM

I have no idea why. Maybe Jim does. The original total expirations
for July before the renewal phase started was upwards of 13K or
more. Several thousand have obviously renewed, but there's still a
big number that are probably gone.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK


So dropping the Code was going to make HAM RADIO grow, yea RIGHT

Dan/W4NTI July 13th 04 08:54 PM


"WA8ULX" wrote in message
...
I have no idea why. Maybe Jim does. The original total expirations
for July before the renewal phase started was upwards of 13K or
more. Several thousand have obviously renewed, but there's still a
big number that are probably gone.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK


So dropping the Code was going to make HAM RADIO grow, yea RIGHT


Maybe the opposite is true......since most were Extra classes.

Dan/W4NTI



Robert Casey July 13th 04 09:09 PM

Mike Coslo wrote:
Bill Sohl wrote:

From http://ah0a.org/FCC/index.html

Total USA licenses dipped pretty significantly
this month (July). Looks to me like we'll end up July
about 10K below the peak total of 687K some months
back.




November 2006 has a lot of expirations too - around 11,000.


Any idea on what the cause for the surge in licensing at that time?
And I wonder if it was from 1996, or an earlier cycle?

I would have thought that the expirations would have mostly been
Technicians, but the majority are Extras. Interesting.


- Mike KB3EIA -


Wasn't it about 1996 when the FCC stopped issuing a new ten year term
whenever someone had to change their address or such? Today you can
change your address, get an upgrade or such but your expiration date
doesn't change. SO that increase of expirations is likely the amount
of address changes or upgrades that used to get new ten year terms
before. Myself as an example: I upgraded in 2000, but I still expire
in 2006. Back under the old system, I'd expire in 2010.

There being extra extras expiring in 2006 is likely people who
upgraded at around Restructuring Day.


Mike Coslo July 13th 04 09:43 PM

Robert Casey wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

Bill Sohl wrote:

From http://ah0a.org/FCC/index.html

Total USA licenses dipped pretty significantly
this month (July). Looks to me like we'll end up July
about 10K below the peak total of 687K some months
back.





November 2006 has a lot of expirations too - around 11,000.


Any idea on what the cause for the surge in licensing at that
time? And I wonder if it was from 1996, or an earlier cycle?

I would have thought that the expirations would have mostly been
Technicians, but the majority are Extras. Interesting.


- Mike KB3EIA -


Wasn't it about 1996 when the FCC stopped issuing a new ten year term
whenever someone had to change their address or such? Today you can
change your address, get an upgrade or such but your expiration date
doesn't change. SO that increase of expirations is likely the amount
of address changes or upgrades that used to get new ten year terms
before. Myself as an example: I upgraded in 2000, but I still expire
in 2006. Back under the old system, I'd expire in 2010.

There being extra extras expiring in 2006 is likely people who
upgraded at around Restructuring Day.


I don't know for sure about the dates, but something like that would
certainly skew the expiring licenses quite a bit, when a different
method starts being used.

- Mike KB3EIA -


William July 14th 04 12:36 AM

(WA8ULX) wrote in message ...
I have no idea why. Maybe Jim does. The original total expirations
for July before the renewal phase started was upwards of 13K or
more. Several thousand have obviously renewed, but there's still a
big number that are probably gone.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK


So dropping the Code was going to make HAM RADIO grow, yea RIGHT


Hello Bruce. How've you been?

Maybe Ham Radio just isn't going to grow. It's been kept as a legacy
mode for too long.

William July 14th 04 12:42 AM

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
Bill Sohl wrote:
From http://ah0a.org/FCC/index.html

Total USA licenses dipped pretty significantly
this month (July). Looks to me like we'll end up July
about 10K below the peak total of 687K some months
back.



November 2006 has a lot of expirations too - around 11,000.


Any idea on what the cause for the surge in licensing at that time? And
I wonder if it was from 1996, or an earlier cycle?

I would have thought that the expirations would have mostly been
Technicians, but the majority are Extras. Interesting.


- Mike KB3EIA -


Mike, that's probably about the time that Bruce/WA8ULX took the Extra
Exam that he wasn't going to take because he wasn't going to go for
Extra Plusser. He's posting below, so you might want to ask him why
all the Advanced's were upgrading at that time.

William July 14th 04 01:19 PM

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net...
"WA8ULX" wrote in message
...
I have no idea why. Maybe Jim does. The original total expirations
for July before the renewal phase started was upwards of 13K or
more. Several thousand have obviously renewed, but there's still a
big number that are probably gone.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK


So dropping the Code was going to make HAM RADIO grow, yea RIGHT


Maybe the opposite is true......since most were Extra classes.

Dan/W4NTI


As Roseanne Roseanna Danna used to say, "It only goes to show ya. You
never know who might have just a passing interest in amateur radio."

I'd imagine that there are some NCT's that have a greater interest.


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