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"Steve Nosko" wrote Too sad about his daughter, though. Yes, we're not supposed to live long enough to bury our children. Gotta be a tough and heartbreaking thing to do. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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"Steve Nosko" wrote Too sad about his daughter, though. Yes, we're not supposed to live long enough to bury our children. Gotta be a tough and heartbreaking thing to do. Voice type="of experience" It is. /voice -- "Remember: every member of your 'target audience' also owns a broadcasting station. These 'targets' can shoot back." -- Michael Rathbun to advertisers, in nanae |
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 04:53:44 -0600, Graybyrd wrote:
Yet, maybe even the FCC would grant ARRL Field Day a "free ride" ... it serves no purpose as an emergency exercise, no information of any value whatsoever is exchanged, and sufficient equipment is knocked out of service to ensure less QRM in the weeks and months following. On this last point in your post, it is now I who beg to differ. Field Day serves no useful purpose as an emergency exercise? Personal experience here would seem to indicate otherwise. No information of any value is exchanged? Maybe not between two distant stations on the air, but every year at Field Day the newer members of our club get the chance to come out and see how lots of things are done that they haven't seen done before. They see the equipment chosen by more experienced hams who are involved in the emergency communications aspect of amateur radio. They see how those hams pack up that equipment for safe transport. They see how it is set up and used, how it is powered, how antennas are erected and connected. That's all valuable information. of course, this assumes that the club in question makes an effort to get those new guys to come out and participate. ours does. Your mileage may vary. Finally, if your equipment gets knocked out at Field Day, that in itself is some valuable information gained, namely that someone needs to reconsider their choice of equipment for emergency use. If that equipment gets knocked out during an exercise, how well do you think it is going to stand up during a *real* emergency? John Kasupskim Tonawanda, New York Amateur Radio (KC2HMZ), SWL/Scanner Monitoring (KNY2VS) Member of ARES/RACES, ARATS, WUN, ARRL http://www.qsl.net/kc2fng E-Mails Ignored, Please Post Replies In This Newsgroup |
Must be a hoax. Powell has no idea about what is going on with ham radio.
Dan/W4NTI "KØHB" wrote in message link.net... August 12, 2004 06:11 PM EDT Gettysburg, Pa (API) In a surprise announcement today, FCC Chairman Michael Powell released preliminary news of a new "user fee" based revenue system for amateur radio operators. "This exciting initiative, suggested by a leading amateur operator and jumpsuit model (photo at http://tinyurl.com/48krd), is designed to raise funds to subsidize the deployment of BPL service throughout America, but especially in disadvantaged places like Franklin County, Tennessee." Details of the plan are not complete, but the fee structure will be based on actual on-the-air use of amateur radio, and will be sensitive to the value of the communications in progress, according to the Chariman. "As an example, emergency communications during a hurricane would be billed at a higher rate than less valuable usage like the North Carolina Lumbago Net." Powell remarked. "Contesters would get special high volume discounts, since their communications simply repeat the same old stuff over and over all weekend long" he stated. Fees will also vary based on the particular mode in use, with CW being charged a premium rate because "it get's through when nothing else can". Video modes like SSTV, however, would command super-premium rates "because a picture is worth a thousand words" the Chairman said. In a related family announcement, Chairman Powell's father, Secretary of State Colin Powell, stated that the IARU would be contacted to ensure that foreign DX operators communicating with US stations would be assessed fees based on their 'rarity' on the DXCC "Most Wanted" listing. Secretary Powell cited an alleged operation from "T5" which he expected would owe "several tens of thousands of dollars" retroactively based on claims on an internet newsgroup by an operator with the screen name "Billy Beeper". Stay tuned for further details. Movie at 10. ---30--- |
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John Kasupski wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 04:53:44 -0600, Graybyrd wrote: Yet, maybe even the FCC would grant ARRL Field Day a "free ride" ... it serves no purpose as an emergency exercise, no information of any value whatsoever is exchanged, and sufficient equipment is knocked out of service to ensure less QRM in the weeks and months following. On this last point in your post, it is now I who beg to differ. Field Day serves no useful purpose as an emergency exercise? Personal experience here would seem to indicate otherwise. [snip] If this were 1950, I would agree that ARRL Field Day is a relevant and valuable exercise. Today, I disagree. Sad truth is, the element least welcome at the Federal/State civil emergency authorities table is the amateur radio community. The federal/state power structure and self-perpetuating control structure are increasingly hostile to "amateur" intrusion as any truly significant part of the professional organization mission. Things have changed greatly in the last 40-50 years, and most catastrophically during the government's rush to "absolute security" following 09/11/01. The "involved citizen" is honored in lip service only nowadays. Perhaps this is why the old guard at the ARRL is frantically trying to find a new look for the old ARES .. hoping against hope to cloak it in digital, commercial, internet garb (WinLink 2000) to make it appear more attractive to the federally-dominated emergency structures. Field Day used to be fun, any maybe it still is .. but it sure is pointless for anything serious .. unless you're thinking we'll be tapping out CW on scavenged, converted transistor radios from our caves during the post-nuclear accident epoch. Gray K7VGW -- Reply to: allen/at/graybyrd/dot/com |
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:52:28 -0600, Graybyrd wrote:
If this were 1950, I would agree that ARRL Field Day is a relevant and valuable exercise. Today, I disagree. Sad truth is, the element least welcome at the Federal/State civil emergency authorities table is the amateur radio community. Maybe where you are. Here it is a key part of both inter-agency and inter-hospital backup communications. -- Phil Kane From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon |
In rec.radio.amateur.policy "K?HB" wrote:
August 12, 2004 06:11 PM EDT Gettysburg, Pa (API) In a surprise announcement today, FCC Chairman Michael Powell released preliminary news of a new "user fee" based revenue system for amateur radio operators. "This exciting initiative, suggested by a leading amateur operator and jumpsuit model (photo at http://tinyurl.com/48krd), is designed to raise funds to subsidize the deployment of BPL service throughout America, but especially in disadvantaged places like Franklin County, Tennessee." snip for brevity Amazing how an obvious piece of satire has resulted in so much pontification. Or maybe not so amazing... -- Jim Pennino Remove -spam-sux to reply. |
But do you know what the REALLY SAD part of this story is...? There are likely to be alot of hams that will believe it to be true. Only way better to stir up the hams beside's the issue of CW is the topic of money. (rotflmao - sheesh!) "KØHB" wrote in message link.net... August 12, 2004 06:11 PM EDT Gettysburg, Pa (API) In a surprise announcement today, FCC Chairman Michael Powell released preliminary news of a new "user fee" based revenue system for amateur radio operators. "This exciting initiative, suggested by a leading amateur operator and jumpsuit model (photo at http://tinyurl.com/48krd), is designed to raise funds to subsidize the deployment of BPL service throughout America, but especially in disadvantaged places like Franklin County, Tennessee." Details of the plan are not complete, but the fee structure will be based on actual on-the-air use of amateur radio, and will be sensitive to the value of the communications in progress, according to the Chariman. "As an example, emergency communications during a hurricane would be billed at a higher rate than less valuable usage like the North Carolina Lumbago Net." Powell remarked. "Contesters would get special high volume discounts, since their communications simply repeat the same old stuff over and over all weekend long" he stated. Fees will also vary based on the particular mode in use, with CW being charged a premium rate because "it get's through when nothing else can". Video modes like SSTV, however, would command super-premium rates "because a picture is worth a thousand words" the Chairman said. In a related family announcement, Chairman Powell's father, Secretary of State Colin Powell, stated that the IARU would be contacted to ensure that foreign DX operators communicating with US stations would be assessed fees based on their 'rarity' on the DXCC "Most Wanted" listing. Secretary Powell cited an alleged operation from "T5" which he expected would owe "several tens of thousands of dollars" retroactively based on claims on an internet newsgroup by an operator with the screen name "Billy Beeper". Stay tuned for further details. Movie at 10. ---30--- |
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message hlink.net...
Must be a hoax. Powell has no idea about what is going on with ham radio. It's another rather well done Brakob spoof/troll just to see how many would actually fall for it. I'm appalled! w3rv Dan/W4NTI "KØHB" wrote in message link.net... August 12, 2004 06:11 PM EDT Gettysburg, Pa (API) In a surprise announcement today, FCC Chairman Michael Powell released preliminary news of a new "user fee" based revenue system for amateur radio operators. "This exciting initiative, suggested by a leading amateur operator and jumpsuit model (photo at http://tinyurl.com/48krd), |
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