Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...

Len may not operate radio equipment
under Part 97 of the FCC regs.

Len may operate -amateur- radio equipment while you are the control
operator.

Like hell he will with me as the control op.


There's the amateur spirit.

Another good example of olde-tyme hamme thinking. :-)

I don't know about the "old time ham" part. I can assure you that it is
good thinking.

Might be a "spirit" that comes out of a bottle...

Actually, I've already done that "operator" thing with a fully-licensed,
all-papers-open-for-inspection-for-any-A.S.S.-offizier as the "control
op." :-)

Bully for you. That does not make you a radio amateur.

Poor Dave. He's run out of valid replies and has to use the "I've-
been-licensed-forty-one-years-and-you've-not!" ploy. As an amateur.
shrug

"I've been licensed for six months and you are not" would work just as
well.

Tsk. I was first licensed as a "first" radio operator 48 years ago...
actually 48 1/2 years to get into his uber-nit-pickyness. :-)

Three years before that I started in operating high-power HF
transmitters without any license whatsoever, without any Signal
School training on HF transmitters, without any training whatsoever
in or about morse code. :-)

Bully for you. I keyed my first government transmitter 36 years ago at
age 19, well ahead of your schedule. It didn't make me a radio amateur.
Of course I was *already* a radio amateur...

Tsk. It gets worse for Dave. I've actually operated transmitters as
a civilian without once having to show or log my "first" license.

Bully for you, though I don't see how it is bad, much less "worse" for
me.
That has nothing to do with obtaining an amateur radio license. If
you're just out to trot out your tired, old brag, might I suggest
alt.radio.commercial.look.what.I.can.do.

All
perfectly legal, too. No need for most Department of Defense
contractors. [DoD isn't ruled by FCC or any "Riley"]

Nope, nuthin' here about amateur radio.

Dave ought to take up nursie's veiled threats of "using his professional
license to call the authorities to 'pick me up.'" This time on emitting
RF without having a valid amateur radio license!

As far as I'm concerned, you're right where you belong already. Just
continue to pad around in your small but paid for, expensive home.
Occasionally, you can look out the window and see some of the other
inmates.

Or, he might take to veiled threats against my wife (like nursie did)
or sign his name "Dave and the Boys" at the end of a posting. :-)

There's no need, Leonard. Your wife already has her cross to bear.

Or, he could become an anonymousie lurking in the baseboards
of newsgroups, afraid of the daylight, jumping out to bite at grown-
ups. Nah. Davie das uber-oberst thinks too much of himself to do
that...

Yes, I do think too much of myself to do that.

I wonder what the Canadians think about all this "show-your-papers!"
demanding? :-)

To you, "Len Anderson is not a radio amateur" equates to a demand.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...

I don't think of Len as someone from the dark side. I think of him as a
flake.

Dave K8MN

Hey, I'm with you. The last geode my son and I split open had this
beautiful silver crystal flake inside. Just magnificent! Alas, it
has been a few years and the flake is now tarnished, but still
magnificent. With a 20X loupe, you could get lost just looking at it.

Speaking of getting lost, how have you been?

bb

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...

I don't think of Len as someone from the dark side. I think of him as a
flake.

Hey, I'm with you. The last geode my son and I split open had this
beautiful silver crystal flake inside. Just magnificent! Alas, it
has been a few years and the flake is now tarnished, but still
magnificent. With a 20X loupe, you could get lost just looking at it.

Len's geode split open decades back and he's been sitting around a long
time. You can imagine how tarnished he is.

Speaking of getting lost, how have you been?

I've been fine. Then again, I'm not lost.

Dave K8MN

William wrote:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

(Quitefine) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Quitefine) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:

Every American should have an interest in increasing the number of
potential emergency radio operators.

A valid point.

However, Len does not
agree that amateur radio plays
any significant role in emergency
communications.

Must Len agree with everything?

Awwww, cut it out, "William"! My sides hurt from laughing.

Dave K8MN


Maybe it's bad branch water affecting your kidneys.

Think of it as a "do or die-uretic" he regularly uses... :-)



I think being denied amateur privs in Vietnam changed his whole outlook on life.

It certainly did. I never worked for another outfit which had any say
in whether I could obtain an amateur radio license overseas.

Dave K8MN

"William" wrote

You consistently misspell "thier." Are you in a rage or are
you just ignorant?

And you just misspelled "their". You don't seem to be in a rage, so
I'll draw the obvious conclusion.

With all kind wishes,

de Hans, K0HB

"KØHB" wrote in message nk.net...
"William" wrote

You consistently misspell "thier." Are you in a rage or are
you just ignorant?

And you just misspelled "their".

Couldn't have. I didn't use that word.

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...

I don't think of Len as someone from the dark side. I think of him as a
flake.

Hey, I'm with you. The last geode my son and I split open had this
beautiful silver crystal flake inside. Just magnificent! Alas, it
has been a few years and the flake is now tarnished, but still
magnificent. With a 20X loupe, you could get lost just looking at it.

Len's geode split open decades back and he's been sitting around a long
time. You can imagine how tarnished he is.

I didn't know Len had a geode. We have even more in common than I thought.

The only think you and I have in common is a couple of QSO's.

Speaking of getting lost, how have you been?

I've been fine. Then again, I'm not lost.

Dave K8MN

Good.

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

(Quitefine) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Quitefine) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:

Every American should have an interest in increasing the number of
potential emergency radio operators.

A valid point.

However, Len does not
agree that amateur radio plays
any significant role in emergency
communications.

Must Len agree with everything?

Awwww, cut it out, "William"! My sides hurt from laughing.

Dave K8MN

Maybe it's bad branch water affecting your kidneys.

Ever since I used the term "branch water" you seem to have had a
fascination with it.

Back to your query though: "Must Len agree with everything?"
I find it very, very funny.

We know for certain that the things he does not agree with are described
by him as "jack-booted, ober uberst, feldwebel, J-38, snarly
backgrounds, Revolutionary War, battlefields littered with, Archaic
Radiotelegraphy, Church of St. Hiram, Gunnery Nurse, Murine" and the
like.

Len's a real peach of a guy. Who wouldn't want to have him as a pal or
a neighbor?

Dave K8MN

All good points. I'm on the verge of pulling a Cecil.

(Quitefine) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

There is no difficulty
in conversing with Len.

All anyone must do is agree
with everything he writes,
and he becomes a pussycat.

Disagree with him, and the
difficulties begin.

I've disagreed with Len without difficulty. I said that I liked
KH2D, even though I disagree with his position on the code testing
issue. Jim's a pretty decent guy.

The exception which proves the rule.

The vast majority who dare to disagree
with Len have had different experiences.

Try disagreeing with Len about the Morse
Code test issue, and see how he behaves.

I may soon pull a Cecil. We'll see how that goes over with Len.

Go to his website and read about the war.

Is that an order?

It wasn't meant to be.

Maybe if I had said, "If you don't show me proof that you've read
about "the war" within 24 hours, prepare to have yourself branded a
LIAR forever and ever (which you are anyway)!!!"

Do you like that kind of gentle direction?

Me either.

Very insightful (or should
it be inciteful?).

http://www.kh2d.net/

Which war?

OK, click on the link, then opinions, then "What's Wrong with..."

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...

I don't think of Len as someone from the dark side. I think of him as a
flake.

Hey, I'm with you. The last geode my son and I split open had this
beautiful silver crystal flake inside. Just magnificent! Alas, it
has been a few years and the flake is now tarnished, but still
magnificent. With a 20X loupe, you could get lost just looking at it.

Len's geode split open decades back and he's been sitting around a long
time. You can imagine how tarnished he is.

I didn't know Len had a geode. We have even more in common than I thought.

You certainly do have much in common. After all, you're his little
electrolyte.

The only think you and I have in common is a couple of QSO's.

That and both having been in the Air Force. But all my operations from
overseas are well documented and have been accepted for DXCC credit.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...

I don't think of Len as someone from the dark side. I think of him as a
flake.

Hey, I'm with you. The last geode my son and I split open had this
beautiful silver crystal flake inside. Just magnificent! Alas, it
has been a few years and the flake is now tarnished, but still
magnificent. With a 20X loupe, you could get lost just looking at it.

Len's geode split open decades back and he's been sitting around a long
time. You can imagine how tarnished he is.

I didn't know Len had a geode. We have even more in common than I thought.

You certainly do have much in common. After all, you're his little
electrolyte.

I thought I was minimi?

The only think you and I have in common is a couple of QSO's.

That and both having been in the Air Force.

I almost forgot that.

But all my operations from
overseas are well documented and have been accepted for DXCC credit.

Dave K8MN

See? We're not much alike at all.

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...

I don't think of Len as someone from the dark side. I think of him as a
flake.

Hey, I'm with you. The last geode my son and I split open had this
beautiful silver crystal flake inside. Just magnificent! Alas, it
has been a few years and the flake is now tarnished, but still
magnificent. With a 20X loupe, you could get lost just looking at it.

Len's geode split open decades back and he's been sitting around a long
time. You can imagine how tarnished he is.

I didn't know Len had a geode. We have even more in common than I thought.

You certainly do have much in common. After all, you're his little
electrolyte.

I thought I was minimi?

Mini-Me. Yep.

The only think you and I have in common is a couple of QSO's.

That and both having been in the Air Force.

I almost forgot that.

But all my operations from
overseas are well documented and have been accepted for DXCC credit.

See? We're not much alike at all.

For that, I am truly thankful.

Dave K8MN

In article ,
(William) writes:

I think being denied amateur privs in Vietnam changed his whole outlook on
life.

I doubt that the "career" with the "foreign service" helped any... :-)

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

Ackshully, "Darth" Heil manages to entertain himself mightily.

That would make him his own "churl." :-)

Kind of like when Bernadette Peters sang, "Making Love Alone" on
Saturday Night Live.

Not quite alone. He has his beloved Orion. :-)

[I doubt he's seen it naked, though...might be a terrible shock...]

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

I think being denied amateur privs in Vietnam changed his whole outlook on
life.

I doubt that the "career" with the "foreign service" helped any... :-)

You weren't in Vietnam, were not in the Foreign Service and are not a
radio amateur. There are a lot of things in which you have no
experience.

Dave K8MN

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

I think being denied amateur privs in Vietnam changed his whole outlook on
life.

I doubt that the "career" with the "foreign service" helped any... :-)

You weren't in Vietnam, were not in the Foreign Service and are not a
radio amateur. There are a lot of things in which you have no
experience.

No problem, over-gross olde-tymer. :-)

You weren't in Korea, you weren't in the French Foreign Legion, and
aren't a nice human being in newsgroups. There are a lot of things
in which you have no experience.

Hi hi. And a ho ho.

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

I think being denied amateur privs in Vietnam changed his whole outlook on
life.

I doubt that the "career" with the "foreign service" helped any... :-)

You weren't in Vietnam, were not in the Foreign Service and are not a
radio amateur. There are a lot of things in which you have no
experience.

No problem, over-gross olde-tymer. :-)

Not for me, it isn't.

You weren't in Korea, you weren't in the French Foreign Legion,

To be fair to those who have been to Korea and those in the French
Foreign Legion, I've tried very hard not to haunt newsgroups dealing
with those topics. I've not once told those in the French Foreign
Legion that I know best how it should be regulated.

and
aren't a nice human being in newsgroups.

It isn't nice to let you know when you take a shot at someone's
background, you know nothing of what you write? Awwwwwwww.

There are a lot of things
in which you have no experience.

The difference between us is that when I don't know much about a topic,
I keep mum.

Hi hi. And a ho ho.

Ho hum and a fiddle-dee-dee!

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (Quitefine)
Date: 9/12/2004 8:39 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

I am fully qualified, by long experience and training
to "operate" radio equipment.

The FCC does not think so.



I'm just not AUTHORIZED to emit
RF within U.S. amateur radio bands as a civilian.

You are neither qualified nor authorized to
operate an amateur radio station.

He's not "AUTHORIZED" to emit RF OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur Bands as a
civilian, either, except under the auspices of someone else's STATION LICENSE.

So sayeth the FCC.

Your opinion on the issue does not matter.

Only becasue his "opinion" is usually NOT based upon practical experience
or facts. A bad combination.

Our opinion on the issue does not matter.

Sure it does! It is from the perspective of practiced and experienced
knowledge.

FCC's opinion on the issue does matter.

And they stated it right there on HIS license. No station license, no
"operating". No ambiguity at all.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/15/2004 10:21 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

I think being denied amateur privs in Vietnam changed his whole outlook on
life.

I doubt that the "career" with the "foreign service" helped any... :-)

You weren't in Vietnam, were not in the Foreign Service and are not a
radio amateur. There are a lot of things in which you have no
experience.

Let's not forget aviation (albeit a brief stint as a student
pilot...obviously not solo'ed...), health care and emergency services.

There's a LOT of things Lennie waxes over and yet has no practical
experience in.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/15/2004 10:03 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

William wrote:

But all my operations from
overseas are well documented and have been accepted for DXCC credit.

See? We're not much alike at all.

For that, I am truly thankful.

I guess this is as close to "I was never legally authorized to operate
Amateur Radio from Somalia" as we will ever get from
Brian-Brain-William-billybeeper-Burke as we will ever get.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:08 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/15/2004 10:03 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

William wrote:

But all my operations from
overseas are well documented and have been accepted for DXCC credit.

See? We're not much alike at all.

For that, I am truly thankful.

I guess this is as close to "I was never legally authorized to operate
Amateur Radio from Somalia" as we will ever get from
Brian-Brain-William-billybeeper-Burke as we will ever get.

73

Steve, K4YZ

When do you publish your book, "This Marine's Seven Hostile Actions?"

I can't wait to read about your acts of heroism and body counts.

Hi, hi!

This was a really WEAK dodge as dodges go, Brain.

C'mon...you can do better!

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:15 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (Quitefine)
Date: 9/12/2004 8:39 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:

I am fully qualified, by long experience and training
to "operate" radio equipment.

The FCC does not think so.



I'm just not AUTHORIZED to emit
RF within U.S. amateur radio bands as a civilian.

You are neither qualified nor authorized to
operate an amateur radio station.

He's not "AUTHORIZED" to emit RF OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur Bands
as a
civilian, either, except under the auspices of someone else's STATION
LICENSE.

Strange that we're not allowed to know another country's rules and
regs of amateurism, but now miracuously Steve Robeson does. Maybe
Earnest Angely said a prayer for Steve.

What "other country", Putzy Jr?

I've not said a single word about another country's "rules and regs of
amateurism".

The context of the posts were directly related to your mentor's lack of
legal authorization to emit RF inside or outside of the US Amateur Radio bands.
(Certain FCC exceptions to authorized unlicensed operation not withstanding).

Waiting for you to show us where you got the "another country's" business
from. I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (Steve Robeson K4CAP)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:58 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:15 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (Quitefine)
Date: 9/12/2004 8:39 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:

I am fully qualified, by long experience and training
to "operate" radio equipment.

The FCC does not think so.



I'm just not AUTHORIZED to emit
RF within U.S. amateur radio bands as a civilian.

You are neither qualified nor authorized to
operate an amateur radio station.

He's not "AUTHORIZED" to emit RF OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur Bands
as a
civilian, either, except under the auspices of someone else's STATION
LICENSE.

Strange that we're not allowed to know another country's rules and
regs of amateurism, but now miracuously Steve Robeson does. Maybe
Earnest Angely said a prayer for Steve.

What "other country", Brian?

I've not said a single word about another country's "rules and regs of
amateurism".

The context of the posts were directly related to your mentor's lack of
legal authorization to emit RF inside or outside of the US Amateur Radio bands.
(Certain FCC exceptions to authorized unlicensed operation not withstanding).

Waiting for you to show us where you got the "another country's" business
from. I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open for Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/18/2004 6:10 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (Steve Robeson K4CAP)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:58 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:15 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

He's not "AUTHORIZED" to emit RF OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur
Bands

K4CAP: What "other country", Brian?

Whatever other country that Len might happen to be in.

What "other country", Brian?

Whatever other country that Len might happen to be in.

I've not said a single word about another country's "rules and regs of
amateurism".

You said, "OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur Bands"

Len gets to decide what other countries. Then you have to
provide the rules that deny him access.

The context of the posts were directly related to your mentor's lack
of
legal authorization to emit RF inside or outside of the US Amateur Radio
bands.
(Certain FCC exceptions to authorized unlicensed operation not
withstanding).

(Such as the Part 15 and Part 95 devices that I rubbed your nose in,
notwithstanding?)

Waiting for you to show us where you got the "another country's"
business
from. I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.

Sound's like brick is coming my way.

The "brick" is your own stupid assertions, Brian. If you'd do a bit of
thoughtful and careful THINKING before you hit the "SEND" key, you'd get far
less stuff thrown back at you.

I'll make sure my wife is prepared for terrorism.

I am sure she's prepared every night that you're next to her, Brian.

As for the rest of the post, you still aren't making sense (not that THAT
is unusual).

"Outside" the US Amateur Bands does not mean outside of the United States.

And as of today, Lennie still does not have a license to operate INSIDE
the Amateur Bands (of ANY country). Nor does he have a license to transmit
OUTSIDE the US Amateur Bands without an FCC issued station license. (As a US
Citizen, a foreign license of ANY nature is useless in the United States except
as a keepsake for Lennie...)

73

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open for Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/19/2004 2:07 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open for Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/18/2004 6:10 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.

Sound's like brick is coming my way.

The "brick" is your own stupid assertions, Brian. If you'd do a bit
of
thoughtful and careful THINKING before you hit the "SEND" key, you'd get
far
less stuff thrown back at you.

What are you talking about?

So far I have no bricks through my window, no tires slashed, and my
wife and kids have experienced no terrorism. You're the only one
saying that I've "shot my mouth off."

No, I'm not.

You're not paying attention.

But you "predict" the bricks, etc, are coming.

Everytime you make stupid assertions and then have to eat them, Brian.

"Outside" the US Amateur Bands does not mean outside of the United
States.

Why not?

Also, do radio waves respect international boundaries???

If you're TRYING to look foolish, Brian, you've done a good job.

And as of today, Lennie still does not have a license to operate
INSIDE
the Amateur Bands (of ANY country). Nor does he have a license to transmit
OUTSIDE the US Amateur Bands without an FCC issued station license. (As a
US
Citizen, a foreign license of ANY nature is useless in the United States
except
as a keepsake for Lennie...)

73

Steve, K4YZ

There are lots and lots and lots of JA's with HK2 and KH6 licenses.
Why is it not possible that Len has a Japanese or Mexican or UK
license?

Maybe he has a UK license and is licensed to operate in the MF bands
where the U.S. Amateur Radio Service has no authorizations.

You need to brush up on your foreign amateur radio rules before
shooting off your mouth again.

You need to know AMERICAN law, Brian. We are, afterall, discussing an
American citizen operating from American soil.

Lennie may very well have one each of the licenses you cited. Who cares?
They are as useful to him on US Amateur allocations as his GROL is.

So Sayeth the FCC.

Not a one of them is any good to him in the United States except as a keep
sake...Just as I said before.

So Sayeth the FCC.

The "home" license of the nations you cited above are only good in the
United States when used by the foreign operator, and only under specific
limitations. And even when the foreign license is used for basis of reciprocal
operating privileges, the foreign operator must obey American subbands.

So Sayeth the FCC.

If the foreign operator takes and passes an American license, s/he must
comply with the limits of THAT license, even if it grants fewer priviledges
than his/her original license. They cannot (legally) switch between "Kx6xxx"
on one occasion then "K6/xx9xxx" in order to exceed the priviledges granted.

So Sayeth the FCC.

An American citizen with a foreign Amateur license cannot use that license
on US soil or from US administered territories.

So Sayeth the FCC.

Now...try to stop being an idiot, Brian, and try to focus on reality. I
know it will be tough, but I know you can do it...You've done it (however
briefly) before.

Steve, K4YZ

In article ,
(William) writes:


Try disagreeing with Len about the Morse
Code test issue, and see how he behaves.

I may soon pull a Cecil. We'll see how that goes over with Len.

We doubt that Len will accept
your change of mind with respect.

Go to his website and read about the war.

Is that an order?

It wasn't meant to be.

It was worded as an order.

Maybe if I had said, "If you don't show me proof that you've read
about "the war" within 24 hours, prepare to have yourself branded a
LIAR forever and ever (which you are anyway)!!!"

What are you going on about, Brian?

Do you like that kind of gentle direction?

Why not simply write:

"I suggest you check out
his website..."

Me either.

Very insightful (or should
it be inciteful?).

Oversimplified and myopic.

http://www.kh2d.net/

Which war?

OK, click on the link, then opinions, then "What's Wrong with..."

KH2D is overfocused on a few narrow
interests in amateur radio. He cannot
see the antenna farm for the guy wires.

Most radio amateurs that we have
encountered are neither clueless
newbies nor brain-dead old farts.

There are a few who fit his
descriptions, but only a few.

He says that the "nocoders"
"won the war".

We think you would be happy
about that. But you do not
project joy or happiness.

Why?

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (Quitefine)
Date: 9/12/2004 8:39 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

I am fully qualified, by long experience and training
to "operate" radio equipment.

The FCC does not think so.

I'm just not AUTHORIZED to emit
RF within U.S. amateur radio bands as a civilian.

You are neither qualified nor authorized to
operate an amateur radio station.

He's not "AUTHORIZED" to emit RF OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur Bands as
a
civilian, either, except under the auspices of someone else's STATION
LICENSE.

So sayeth the FCC.

Or under Part 95 regulations, which
require no special training or experience.

Your opinion on the issue does not matter.

Only becasue his "opinion" is usually NOT based upon practical
experience
or facts. A bad combination.

No.

Len's opinion on the issue does not matter
because Len does not regulate
radio.

Our opinion on the issue does not matter.

Sure it does! It is from the perspective of practiced and experienced
knowledge.

No.

Our opinion on the issue does not matter
because we do not regulate
radio.

FCC's opinion on the issue does matter.

And they stated it right there on HIS license. No station license, no
"operating". No ambiguity at all.

No operator license, either. A commercial
license does not authorize or qualify its
holder
to operate an amateur radio station.

So, by the FCC's own definition, Len is
neither qualified nor authorized to operate
an amateur radio station.

It is only the FCC's opinions and definitions
which matter on the issue.

That is reality.