William wrote:

I just read a David Heil post where he thinks you shouldn't suggest
anything.

Then you misread it.

But I can recall post after post after post scolding me for
spending my spare time on RRAP rather than with a code practice
oscillator.

Post after post, huh? I think your memory is a bit dim.

These guys are PCTA, and exhibit the PCTA double-standard at every
opportunity.

You've tried to sell this sway-backed horse of a tale for quite some
time.


Dave K8MN

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...

Just for starters. Actually I've lost track of how many different names
Len
has
made up for me. Seems he just can't bring himself to call me "Jim" or
"N2EY",
even though I call him "Len" or "Mr. Anderson".

I can call you Jim. Doesn't matter because you don't like my message.

But Len and Biran get you to call them "Putz", "Loser", "Brain" and
"PuppetBoy", just for starters. Which is probably their entire game,
really.

Ahem, that's "Brian." And we don't "get him to call us" anything.
Steve does so on the free volition of any number of his various
personalities.

The other is because last month Brain stated others "can't help
yourself, you have to respond...".

Prove him wrong.

Please do. It'll be a first.

Guess they have a hard time with objectivity, not that we had any
doubts.

Of course. So why play their game?

I can be Quiteobjective. Try me with some rational discourse.

The PCTA's only "game" is that they've lost at validity of keeping
a morse code test and try to "get back" at NCTA using all manner
of personal insults and denigrations.

I've seen it.

"Rational discourse" to the PCTA means having to like morse
code...anyplace, anytime.

Speak the least thing negative about morse code and the PCTA
immediately go ballistic, holler and shout that NCTA are
"insulting their honor" (or whatever they bitch about du jour).

Boils down to that in here.

Seems to me that the PCTA code lovers should be on their radios
happily beeping away...instead of sitting at keyboards snarling
nastygrams at any NCTA within sight or hearing. :-)

Hi hi.



I just read a David Heil post where he thinks you shouldn't suggest
anything. But I can recall post after post after post scolding me for
spending my spare time on RRAP rather than with a code practice
oscillator.

Heil is claiming "turf" in here, trying to close off the newsgroup to
all but those He allows in.

Problem is that this is an open forum whether He likes it or not.

He doesn't like it, ergo the usual spew of denigrations to all that
don't think like He. shrug

Following Heilian Rules in amateur radio policy newsgroup posting,
this would turn into a cozy little conclave of PCTA elitists, all
talking about the wonder and magic of morse, giving Newington
boys high-fives for anything, indeed giving each other high-fives
for existing. They would Rule. :-)

Common enough syndrome in pseudo-fraternal orders among
humans. Happens elsewhere.

These guys are PCTA, and exhibit the PCTA double-standard at every
opportunity.

They do NOT see it that way. :-)

Their Way is THE Way. No dissension allowed.

If They had to take a code test for an amateur license, then
everyone has to do it! No dissension allowed.

Dissent from The Way and They wish to lock out all who do so.

These PCTA elitists take their Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society
very, very seriously.

Tsk. So much for what could be a fun hobby.

It is their Lifestyle?

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes:


Why do I make mention of this?

Probably because it's Lennie who insists that no one here posts "on
subject" and only post to "do battle". Interesting, considering his
flagrant, frequent attacks on "Jimmy", "der Oberst" ,"Dill Sergeant",
"Mama Dee" andothers.

You miss the point, Steve. The purpose of r.r.a.p. is no longer
discussion of policy, or learning something, or study of communications
theory.

The purpose is to FIGHT and to denegrate the dignity of all who do not
agree with you! Any other post is off topic and is not welcome here.

Get with the program. No one is "mistaken" or "partially correct" on
r.r.a.p. They either 100% totally agree with you, or they are "a lying,
scum sucking, bottom feeding no-code beeper." There is no in between,
and there must be at least one of each in every conversation here.
Anything which resembles a rational exchange of ideas and useful
information will either be ignored, or some enterprising induhvidual
will hijack the thread and turn it into an argument about Morse. No
other "Policy" conversation is allowed to survive unmolested.

72, de Hans, K0HB

~~~
I savor the strange warm glow of being more ignorant than
ordinary people, who are only ignorant of ordinary things.
~~~

Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 9/21/2004 2:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: . net


(Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes:


Why do I make mention of this?

Probably because it's Lennie who insists that no one here posts "on
subject" and only post to "do battle". Interesting, considering his
flagrant, frequent attacks on "Jimmy", "der Oberst" ,"Dill Sergeant",
"Mama Dee" andothers.

You miss the point, Steve. The purpose of r.r.a.p. is no longer
discussion of policy, or learning something, or study of communications
theory.

The purpose is to FIGHT and to denegrate the dignity of all who do not
agree with you! Any other post is off topic and is not welcome here.

Au contraire, Master Chief.

I have a great many other discussions that are nothing of the kind. But
then the "other" people involved tend to act civilly, refrain from the use of
diminutives and generally tend to be open minded sorts. Nor do they create
stories that are so easily disporven, make boasts of things done that can't be
verified, nor do they boldfaced misrepresent the truth.

And I must add...All of your "replies" vis-a-vis anything I have posted in
ANY thread has been of this angry, stick-it-in-your-ear kinda stuff.

I find it a bit hypocritical that you chastise me for that sort of thing,
all-the-while participating in it yourself.

Get with the program. No one is "mistaken" or "partially correct" on
r.r.a.p.

Sure they are. We all are at one time or another. Even you.

They either 100% totally agree with you, or they are "a lying,
scum sucking, bottom feeding no-code beeper."

Another misrepresentation of the truth, Master Chief.

There is no in between,
and there must be at least one of each in every conversation here.
Anything which resembles a rational exchange of ideas and useful
information will either be ignored, or some enterprising induhvidual
will hijack the thread and turn it into an argument about Morse. No
other "Policy" conversation is allowed to survive unmolested.

If you're so frustrated, why spend one more day here? Feel free to
exercise the option of not participating if it so offends you. We'll miss you,
but we'll manage...

73

Steve, K4YZ

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


All of your "replies" vis-a-vis anything I have posted in
ANY thread has been of this angry, stick-it-in-your-ear kinda stuff.


Actually, I think you should "stick-it-in-" a somewhat lower posterior
orfice.


Sure they are. We all are at one time or another. Even you.


I've only been wrong once on rrap. That's the time I thought I was
wrong, but I wasn't.


If you're so frustrated, why spend one more day here?


I'm not frustrated, Steve, just simply entertained by your predictable
knee-jerk reactions of angst and lack of tolerance for opposing opinion.
(In other words, it's great fun to watch you spin up your rotors when
someone tweaks your nose.)


Feel free to exercise the option of not participating if it so
offends you. We'll miss you, but we'll manage...


Is that kinda like "My way, or the highway" or "Don't let the door...."?


More than one person (meaning: other than me) has called Hans...
(gratuitous name calling deleted)...


"When a true genius appears in this world, you may know
him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy
against him." -- Jonathan Swift

Sunuvagun!

72, de Hans, K0HB

Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 9/22/2004 10:21 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: . net


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


All of your "replies" vis-a-vis anything I have posted in
ANY thread has been of this angry, stick-it-in-your-ear kinda stuff.


Actually, I think you should "stick-it-in-" a somewhat lower posterior
orfice.

And a prime example of "Do As I Say, Not Do As I Do" kind of response,
Hans.

I find it quite ironic that you chastise others for confrontational or
acidic posts, yet you seem quite happy to jump right in and do it yourself.

It goes a long way towards unravelling your credibility as evenhanded.

Sure they are. We all are at one time or another. Even you.


I've only been wrong once on rrap. That's the time I thought I was
wrong, but I wasn't.

And this time. Again.

If you're so frustrated, why spend one more day here?


I'm not frustrated, Steve, just simply entertained by your predictable
knee-jerk reactions of angst and lack of tolerance for opposing opinion.
(In other words, it's great fun to watch you spin up your rotors when
someone tweaks your nose.)

Sure you're frustrated, Hans.

You've got the same case of "I Can't Have It My Way So I'll Make Everyone
Else Miserables" that Lennie has. Feel free to disagree, but it won't change a
thing.

Feel free to exercise the option of not participating if it so
offends you. We'll miss you, but we'll manage...


Is that kinda like "My way, or the highway" or "Don't let the door...."?

Nope. Just a friendly reminder that your opinion is no more or less
valued than anyone elses, but if you don't like the way things are going, there
ARE alternatives.

More than one person (meaning: other than me) has called Hans...
(gratuitous name calling deleted)...


"When a true genius appears in this world, you may know
him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy
against him." -- Jonathan Swift

Sunuvagun!

72, de Hans, K0HB

Still one short as always, I see. I imagine its always been that way for
you.

Sunnuvagun!

Steve, K4YZ

In article . net, "KØHB"
writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes:


Why do I make mention of this?

Probably because it's Lennie who insists that no one here posts "on
subject" and only post to "do battle". Interesting, considering his
flagrant, frequent attacks on "Jimmy", "der Oberst" ,"Dill Sergeant",
"Mama Dee" andothers.

You miss the point, Steve. The purpose of r.r.a.p. is no longer
discussion of policy, or learning something, or study of communications
theory.

The purpose is to FIGHT and to denegrate the dignity of all who do not
agree with you! Any other post is off topic and is not welcome here.

Get with the program. No one is "mistaken" or "partially correct" on
r.r.a.p. They either 100% totally agree with you, or they are "a lying,
scum sucking, bottom feeding no-code beeper." There is no in between,
and there must be at least one of each in every conversation here.
Anything which resembles a rational exchange of ideas and useful
information will either be ignored, or some enterprising induhvidual
will hijack the thread and turn it into an argument about Morse. No
other "Policy" conversation is allowed to survive unmolested.

Well said, Hans! tip of the hat and electronic high-five

"KØHB" wrote in message link.net...
(Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes:


Why do I make mention of this?

Probably because it's Lennie who insists that no one here posts "on
subject" and only post to "do battle". Interesting, considering his
flagrant, frequent attacks on "Jimmy", "der Oberst" ,"Dill Sergeant",
"Mama Dee" andothers.

You miss the point, Steve. The purpose of r.r.a.p. is no longer
discussion of policy, or learning something, or study of communications
theory.

The purpose is to FIGHT and to denegrate the dignity of all who do not
agree with you! Any other post is off topic and is not welcome here.

Get with the program. No one is "mistaken" or "partially correct" on
r.r.a.p. They either 100% totally agree with you, or they are "a lying,
scum sucking, bottom feeding no-code beeper." There is no in between,
and there must be at least one of each in every conversation here.
Anything which resembles a rational exchange of ideas and useful
information will either be ignored, or some enterprising induhvidual
will hijack the thread and turn it into an argument about Morse. No
other "Policy" conversation is allowed to survive unmolested.

72, de Hans, K0HB

Hans, it warms the heart to see someone other than Len saying those things.

bb

Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (William)
Date: 9/22/2004 5:00 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Hans, it warms the heart to see someone other than Len saying those things.

I don't know why.

More than one person (meaning: other than me) has called Hans "Len with a
License".

And Lennie is still a liar and you still publically admire him and condone
his conduct.

Peas in the pod.

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (William)
Date: 9/22/2004 5:00 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Hans, it warms the heart to see someone other than Len saying those things.

I don't know why.

Because it validates what Len has said for years. That's why.

More than one person (meaning: other than me) has called Hans "Len with a
License".

I've never seen that. Not once.

And Lennie is still a liar

Pants on fiar...

and you still publically admire him

For all to see.

and condone
his conduct.

I've never witnessed Len threatening to throw bricks through windows,
slash tires, or terrorize anyone's wife.

Or threaten to "Dial" a person into custody.

Or accuse or insinuate that another was a pedophile.

Peas in the pod.

Green Giant

Steve, K4YZ