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September 22nd 04, 05:48 PM
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Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting? From: Mike Coslo Date: 9/22/2004 7:42 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Mike Coslo writes: Jimmie chastise nursie? Har! The castisement is a very gentle slap on the wrist with a wet noodle. "Naughty boy, Steve, mustn't say such bad words!" will sum it up. It is hard to control what Jim posts. It would be a lot easier if you were the moderator. I'm not the "moderator" in here. This is an open forum. Problem is, a few do NOT want that...they want a cozy little chat room filled only with their own kine. They are the ones polluting. I couldn't agree more! The problem here, Mike, is that on more than one occassion Lennie HAS demanded certain actions (or cessation of actions) from various persons. Oh yes! Interesting that he is the one to prove his own point. I probably should have put a smiley after that. He didn't get his way, of course, but he does take liberties with the very same "rules" he would impose on others... I have noticed that. There is a certain type that accuses others of what they are trying to do themselves. He used to accuse me of trying to be the moderator, and yet becomes very agitated when someone posts something he disagrees with. Eventually it becomes a tip-off to the person's motives. Not quite. Like Moose, Elk, Eagles, Lions type of clubs, all full of brave macho types bragging it up at the club bar. Now that tells us much. If you had been to one of those, then you do not need to be "told" about it. It is self-evident. Merely observe. That's all that's necessary. A buncha guys, and sometimes gals. People put back a few. Some are great folk, some are obnoxious. A microcosm of life. I have no interest in that sort of thing, but it's harmless enough as long as they don't drive off half-tanked. If you haven't been to a fraternal order hall with bar, then think of a conclave of PCTA self-described wire-pullers and add some alky. Same thing. Don't hate, man. C'mon Mike...Don't expect miracles. hehe, I'm just a cockeyed, hockey puck optimist! 8^) OBEY them. The PCTA extras RULE! Hi hi. Since when? And what do they rule anyhow? Since the PCTA first had their hobby-orgasm over a code key. They think that all radio communications revolves around morse code and morsemanship. It hasn't been so for decades, but they are Believers and will not listen to reason. But I'm PCTA and aren't anywhere close to that. Protestations to the contrary, Mike, just about all of us in the "pro code" camp have expressed and discussed other modes, activities and interests. Yup! Lennie keeps dragging that old, tired rhetoric of his around and tries to wave it like a tattered old battle flag. I wish he'd slack off on the Morse code and give us more of the stories with the historical aspect. Like MOST of his stuff, it's tired, dated and for the most part, not true. But it makes him happy to wave it. Governments (and all newsgroupies) should obey Them (the PCTA that is) simply because the PCTA are. that would be bad if these folk are oppressing you. But as the (probably) most prolific poster here, how can that be? If the PCTA feel it so necessary to make all ham radio newcomers learn morse to get a license, they should petition the FCC to rename the ARS to what suits them - Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society. Does knowing Morse code eliminate other forms of communication, including modern ones? Old technology and new technology can coexist with each other. Not in Lennie's world. Thank God it goes no farther than his own, sad and beleagured mind. That should end any "dispute." The PCTA get what they want. The name is readjusted to what it had become in testing. Amateur radio is just another hobby involving electronics. There are dozens-plus hobbies involving electronics and that is where the electronics-interested hobbyists have gone. Most of those non-ham hobbyists don't give a damn about morse code or recreating some "pioneer days" re-enactments through constantly re-living olden days that were around before most hams of today were born. I guess history must be bad, huh? Of course it is. UNLESS, of course, you are a one-tour-wonder Army radio mechanic from 1953. Then the tale warrants retelling at every opportunity. I wouldn't mind actually hearing more details of that time, without the to me strange comparisons to Morse code users of today. I've read parts of his experience, but I imagine there are interesting details. There's only a few PCTA extras in here. But, they are resolute and quite uncivil in condemnation of all those who do not love, honor and obey morsemanship. All readers have seen that. I'm PCTA and an Extra. I respectfully disagree with that statement. Not all readers have "seen that". I, for one, have publically stated (and do so again here) that although I support Morse code use AND testing, it's time is passing and it's time to move on. Of course Lennie ignores this (and similar comments from other posters of similar thought) and goes right on with his assertions about how allegedly reluctant any one is to discuss anything else. Even more ironic is that when we DO discuss anything else, Lennie or Brian do thier best to pull the thread into yet another "PCTA Extras Destroying The Radio World" rant. Kinda makes you think that is about all they have to offer. There's lots of folks who MIGHT have come in here and made their opinions known on issues...but are hesitant to not wanting to be called nasty names by those same PCTA extras. That's the "rule" part...rule by intimidation, intimidation by any manner. At least the NCTA and interested others don't call anyone names! ;^) Uh huh. Betchya I could sell you a bride in New York, too, Mike...?!?! Seriously, has Lenover21 or William ever called anyone in here names, or made derogatory "baby talk" or whatever kind of talk it is; or otherwise denigrated others? Oh..... yes.......I guess they have... For most folks, that rule-by-intimidation isn't comfortable, isn't open, certainly isn't conducive (in any way) to discussion...the intimidation consists mostly of diss and cuss at non-morse folks, zero discussion. hmmm, I don't see it that way at all. Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. The "diss and cuss" comes from being "dissed" and "cussed" by certain non-Amateur aggitators. One in particular. - Mike KB3EIA - |
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