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Old September 30th 04, 11:57 AM
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In article ,
(N2EY) writes:

Dave Heil wrote in message
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What amateur radio equipment has Len developed?


Answer: None that he will admit to.

What amateur radio equipment has Len actually used, and in what
environments? (The contest environment is quite different from the
"quiet band" environment)


Answer: None that he will admit to.

How many contest points/countries/states/contacts has Len made with
amateur radio equipment he developed/designed/built/paid for himself?


Answer: None

What articles on amateur radio receiver performance issues such as
dynamic range (third order IMD, BDR, etc.), phase noise, etc., has he
authored? Or even actually read and understood?


Answer: None

The world wonders....;-)


"The world" isn't "wondering" at all.


Yes it is! ;-)

Neither Jimmie nor Davie have
developed any marketable ham transceivers.


Who are "Jimmie and Davie"?

Perhaps Len meant "Jim, N2EY" and "Dave, K8MN". If so, then his use of
feminized diminutives for our names proves (paraphrasing Brian, N0IMD): "he
doesn't have the guts to spell our names right".

I have designed, built, and operated at three amateur radio HF transceivers.
First one was about 25 years ago. Before that, I was doing the same with
separate receivers and transmitters.

No, I've developed the same number of marketable ham transceivers you
have, Leonard--none.


Why is it at all important that something be "marketable"? One of the joys of
home construction is *not* having to meet someone else's idea of "what the
market wants".

Then again, I was aware of the synthesizer phase
noise and spurs. You weren't. You attempted to spoon feed us crap.


What minor phrases? Len claimed that frequency synthesizer rigs were
necessary for the "subdivisions" of 1968.


Tsk. I didn't refer to 1968 per se.


Weren't you the guy who wrote something of nit-picking? When did you
think those subbands came into existence?


Subbands-by-license-class came into existence in US ham radio in 1951, with the
creation of the Novice. Len wasn't a ham then.

The current system of General/Advanced/Extra subbands-by-license-class came
into existence in US ham radio in 1968, after several years of discussion. Len
wasn't a ham then. I was, K8MN was.

Len wrote here in January 2000 that he was going for Extra right out of the
box. He wasn't a ham then. Nor now.

Numerous positngs by
different authors, all of whom actually had to deal with those
"subdivisions" have proved that to be utterly false and without basis.


"Authors?" Who in here, besides myself, can claim many bylines
and a staff position at a ham magazine?


Living in the past....

Did Len have a nice office at the magazine? Did he like living in New
Hampshire? Whatever became of that magazine? - I can't find it on the
newsstands...

I do have quite a few old copies of it, but Len's name isn;t in any of them.

Not Jimmie. Not Davie.


Doesn't have the guts to spell...

Authors. You know, who writes something. I've had a number of bylines
in amateur radio magazines. Be careful, you'll end up looking like
Brian Burke in his A-1 Op Club gaffe.


I've had articles published in amateur magazines. A lot more recently than Len,
too ;-)

But as you say, Dave, an author is someone who writes. I am the author of this
post; therefore, I am an author. So are you.

The point is the same: Numerous authors here have proved Len's assertions about
subbands and synthesizers to be completely without basis in fact.

Len, of course, never had to deal with them at all because he's never
been a radio amateur and never operated an amateur radio station. (By
FCC definition, operating requires a license).


Pity that. All that while as a professional and never becoming a
licensed amateur! Horrors!


"Not that there's anyhting wrong with that"

Do us a favor and note that this newsgroup is rec.radio.amateur.policy.
I'm not impressed with your frequent touting of your past professional
status. Many radio amateurs are current or past professionals in
communications or electronics. Tooting your horn about your past work
and attempting to use it as a substitute for an amateur license in an
amateur radio newsgroup isn't likely to win you any points among hams.


The plain simple fact remains that Len has not had to deal with
subbands-by-license-class in amateur radio. Or any other amateur-radio issues.
His observations are those of a spectator only, not a participant.

Of course, to the knowledgeable reader, Len's postings simply reveal
how truly ignorant he is of amateur radio in many ways. That's not a
crime, of course, but it does get boring.


Poor baby. Bored are you? Tsk, tsk.

Jimmie needs a hobby activity or to get out and see more things.


Oh! Didn't you know? Jim's a licensed amateur radio operator. Maybe
you could take up amateur radio.


I have several non-work activities and responsibilites and I get out quite a
bit.

Jimmie ought to understand that radio amateurs didn't invent radio
nor did they develop all the circuits and systems in modern ready-
built radios. Tsk.


I'm guessing that Jim and everyone else here was already aware of that
factoid.


I realized that long ago.

Jim likely realizes that you didn't invent radio or all of the
circuits and systems in modern ready-built radios. That makes you even.


Actually, I don't think Len invented *any* of the circuits or systems now used
in "modern ready-built radios". Not any radios I know of, anyway.

"Not that there's anything wrong with that"

73 de Jim, N2EY

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Old September 30th 04, 10:57 PM
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In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:


Who are "Jimmie and Davie"?

Perhaps Len meant "Jim, N2EY" and "Dave, K8MN". If so, then his use of
feminized diminutives for our names proves (paraphrasing Brian, N0IMD): "he
doesn't have the guts to spell our names right".


Tsk. I'm only copying the style of some PCTA extras in here.

Notably your mutual buddy, gunnery nurse yell-yell.

Isn't it time you slapped his wrist with wet noodles again?

I have designed, built, and operated at three amateur radio HF transceivers.
First one was about 25 years ago. Before that, I was doing the same with
separate receivers and transmitters.


Right. JAMES was the designer of the mighty K2. Hi hi.


Len wrote here in January 2000 that he was going for Extra right out of the
box. He wasn't a ham then. Nor now.


Tsk. I didn't lie down on the floor of the Church of St. Hiram and
Take Vows For Life while forming a code key with my body. :-)

If you want to take me to task, ask about my anti-gravity invention.
It's not done yet! Something is still holding me down...


Living in the past....


Tsk. Jimmie used the mantra "the past is prologue" often before...

Did Len have a nice office at the magazine? Did he like living in New
Hampshire? Whatever became of that magazine? - I can't find it on the
newsstands...


Like most of the "staff" of HR, we worked wherever we lived.

New Hampshire is lovely in the fall. In the winter it can be muy cold
as Alf Wilson, W6NIF, complained to me on the phone several
times. Alf took over on the sudden death of Jim Fisk, ex-W1HR,
founding partner and chief editor of HR. He and his wife moved
back to southern California after the second cold winter there.

Ham Radio magazine and Ham Radio Horizons, as well as the
Ham Radio Bookstore, were all part of Communications Technology
Incorporated. It was sold to CQ Communications in 1990 after HR
had a 22-year publishing history as an independent amteur radio
technical periodical.

A three-CD electronic reprint of all 22 years' contents are available
mail-order from CQ or ARRL and across the counter at HRO outlets
for US$150.

I do have quite a few old copies of it, but Len's name isn;t in any of them.


Tsk. Jimmie doesn't have enough copies. :-)

Recycle some dollars and get your own copies right on the computer
screen. [you DO have a CD-compatible drive in that computer, don't
you, master of high-tech?]


But as you say, Dave, an author is someone who writes. I am the author of
this post; therefore, I am an author. So are you.


Tsk. You post. Posts hold fences. You make fences to keep out
independent thought, limit those within to YOUR type of thinking.

The point is the same: Numerous authors here have proved Len's assertions
about subbands and synthesizers to be completely without basis in fact.


Tsk. That's not a post. Your judgement is a post hole.


The plain simple fact remains that Len has not had to deal with
subbands-by-license-class in amateur radio. Or any other amateur-radio
issues. His observations are those of a spectator only, not a participant.


Tsk. Jimmie want to dismiss the FCC because the FCC does not
require any commissioner or staff to hold amateur radio licenses?


I have several non-work activities and responsibilites and I get out quite a
bit.


Good for you. Whatever they are, I'm sure they are superior to
anything any NCTA does, did, or is considering. :-)


Actually, I don't think Len invented *any* of the circuits or systems now used
in "modern ready-built radios". Not any radios I know of, anyway.


Tsk. Recycling old parts circa-1990 and using vacuum tubes is
hardly "invention." :-)

But, Jimmies qualification is the phrase "Not any radios I know of,
anyway." That imperious declaration infers he is judge, jury, and
supreme court of all "radio" that is meaningful anywhere, anytime.
:-)

"Not that there's anything wrong with that"


Tsk. That's the ONLY way in this newsgroup where attempted
domination in all things amateur is done by PCTA extras.

Pass the A-1 sauce and the sherpa...


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Old October 1st 04, 05:35 AM
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Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

Who are "Jimmie and Davie"?

Perhaps Len meant "Jim, N2EY" and "Dave, K8MN". If so, then his use of
feminized diminutives for our names proves (paraphrasing Brian, N0IMD): "he
doesn't have the guts to spell our names right".


Tsk. I'm only copying the style of some PCTA extras in here.

Notably your mutual buddy, gunnery nurse yell-yell.

Isn't it time you slapped his wrist with wet noodles again?


Is this part of the civil discoarse lesson?

I have designed, built, and operated at three amateur radio HF transceivers.
First one was about 25 years ago. Before that, I was doing the same with
separate receivers and transmitters.


Right. JAMES was the designer of the mighty K2. Hi hi.

Len wrote here in January 2000 that he was going for Extra right out of the
box. He wasn't a ham then. Nor now.


Tsk. I didn't lie down on the floor of the Church of St. Hiram and
Take Vows For Life while forming a code key with my body. :-)


So no one can take your word on a thing unless you've done something
like that? :-) I'll try to remember that.


But as you say, Dave, an author is someone who writes. I am the author of
this post; therefore, I am an author. So are you.


Tsk. You post. Posts hold fences. You make fences to keep out
independent thought, limit those within to YOUR type of thinking.


Hang on, Len. I want to get all of this part of your civil discoarse
lesson for my notes.

The point is the same: Numerous authors here have proved Len's assertions
about subbands and synthesizers to be completely without basis in fact.


Tsk. That's not a post. Your judgement is a post hole.


I take it that you really can't defend your earlier statements. The end
result is that you're reduced to answering with the nonsense above.

The plain simple fact remains that Len has not had to deal with
subbands-by-license-class in amateur radio. Or any other amateur-radio
issues. His observations are those of a spectator only, not a participant.


Tsk. Jimmie want to dismiss the FCC because the FCC does not
require any commissioner or staff to hold amateur radio licenses?


There are some things you just don't get no matter how many times the
explanation is provided for you: The FCC staff gets paid to regulate
and administer amateur radio in the U.S. They aren't spectators. We
are participants. We're not spectators. You are neither a regulator
nor a participant. Have you grasped the concept?

Actually, I don't think Len invented *any* of the circuits or systems now used
in "modern ready-built radios". Not any radios I know of, anyway.


Tsk. Recycling old parts circa-1990 and using vacuum tubes is
hardly "invention." :-)


You walk a few steps and then you trip. It was written that YOU didn't
invent any of the circuits or systems used in "modern ready-built"
radios.
He didn't claim that he invented the recycling of parts and vacuum
tubes.
You really need to pay attention.

But, Jimmies qualification is the phrase "Not any radios I know of,
anyway." That imperious declaration infers he is judge, jury, and
supreme court of all "radio" that is meaningful anywhere, anytime.
:-)


I really have no trouble accepting that you believe that is what Jim's
phrase meant.

Dave K8MN
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