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On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

"Willy Weeper" wrote

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression.....

I put 50dB of attenuation in line, and this post still smoked my Troll
'O Meter.

73, de K0HB
--
"My name is Hans and I improved this message."

"KØHB" wrote in message link.net...
"Willy Weeper" wrote

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression.....

I put 50dB of attenuation in line, and this post still smoked my Troll
'O Meter.

73, de K0HB

Yee Haw!!! Bent the needle! ;^)

You know Hans, I was beginning to think that maybe, just maybe, I was
alone in the world being interested in knowing what the frequency
allocations for various DX entities were.

Wellp, at least ON4UN considered it. I think his old "Low Band Dxing"
included a list. Probably out of date.

"William" wrote in message
om...
"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
"Willy Weeper" wrote

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression.....

I put 50dB of attenuation in line, and this post still smoked my Troll
'O Meter.

73, de K0HB

Yee Haw!!! Bent the needle! ;^)

You know Hans, I was beginning to think that maybe, just maybe, I was
alone in the world being interested in knowing what the frequency
allocations for various DX entities were.

Wellp, at least ON4UN considered it. I think his old "Low Band Dxing"
included a list. Probably out of date.

The ARRL Operating Manual is pretty thorough and they revise it every few
years.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Dave K8MN

"KØHB" wrote:

"Willy Weeper" wrote

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression.....

I put 50dB of attenuation in line, and this post still smoked my Troll
'O Meter.

73, de K0HB
--
"My name is Hans and I improved this message."

"William" is under all sorts of impressions. A few of them are correct.

Dave K8MN

"Wille Weeper" wrote


You know Hans, I was beginning to think that maybe, just maybe, I was
alone in the world being interested in knowing what the frequency
allocations for various DX entities were.


You may not be alone, but I doubt that you have much company.

The ITU amateur allocations for Regions I, II, and III are widely
available in print or on the web. That level of detail is generally
more than adequate to know where to look for amateurs in a certain part
of the world.

If you are detail-orientated enough to need to know the allocations
(band-edges/mode segments) for each of the more than 300 DXCC entities
then I sincerely doubt that information is routinely available without
exhaustive research into each countries PT&T regulations.

As for me, the knowledge of the Region II US allocations is adequate to
keep me "legal", and I will assume that residents of the other 300+
entities are similarly mindful of their allocations.

It is adequate to me to know that Tananarive is in Region I, therefore a
40M contact with 5U7AR is probably only possible between 7.000 and 7.100
MHz. It will be up to 5U7AR (not me) to know whether that allocation is
valid in his "entity". If I hear him on 7.050MHz, I will assume he can
legally operate there, without me needing to be conversant with his
allocations as detailed in the "Part 97" of Madagascar.

73, de Hans, K0HB
--
"My name is Hans and I improved this message."

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Dave K8MN

Small world, so are yours. Work France on 6 lately?

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message ...
"William" wrote in message
om...
"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
"Willy Weeper" wrote

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression.....

I put 50dB of attenuation in line, and this post still smoked my Troll
'O Meter.

73, de K0HB

Yee Haw!!! Bent the needle! ;^)

You know Hans, I was beginning to think that maybe, just maybe, I was
alone in the world being interested in knowing what the frequency
allocations for various DX entities were.

Wellp, at least ON4UN considered it. I think his old "Low Band Dxing"
included a list. Probably out of date.

The ARRL Operating Manual is pretty thorough and they revise it every few
years.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee, thanks.

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
"KØHB" wrote:

"Willy Weeper" wrote

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression.....

I put 50dB of attenuation in line, and this post still smoked my Troll
'O Meter.

73, de K0HB
--
"My name is Hans and I improved this message."

"William" is under all sorts of impressions. A few of them are correct.

Dave K8MN

Noted.

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

I didn't think you knew the answer.

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Small world, so are yours.

That's right. Anyone can find out quite a bit about them by doing a
Google search. It's odd that when I did the same for yours, nuttin'
came up except one log entry from a Swede during the time you were in
KH2-land.
I'm pretty sure that there's nothing a guy like you could learn from me.

Work France on 6 lately?

No, "William", I haven't. I did work Iowa, Illinois, Michigan,
Wisconsin and Minnesota among other states on 2m SSB a few evenings
back. I didn't bother to check to see if everyone was operating where
he is permitted to be. I just made sure that I was where I was
permitted to be. Thanks for your interest.

Dave K8MN

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

A republican? ;-) 4 more weeks....

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
"KØHB" wrote:

"Willy Weeper" wrote

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression.....

I put 50dB of attenuation in line, and this post still smoked my Troll
'O Meter.

73, de K0HB
--
"My name is Hans and I improved this message."

"William" is under all sorts of impressions. A few of them are correct.

VERY few of them.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

Suit yourself. You're not the world's greatest DXer, merely well
known.

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

I didn't think you knew the answer.

"Steve."

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Small world, so are yours.

That's right. Anyone can find out quite a bit about them by doing a
Google search. It's odd that when I did the same for yours, nuttin'
came up except one log entry from a Swede during the time you were in
KH2-land.
I'm pretty sure that there's nothing a guy like you could learn from me.

I wouldn't say that. I could probably learn something amateur radio
related from you, maybe even a lot.

I just don't like your accusations or your approach.

Work France on 6 lately?

No, "William", I haven't.

Phew!

I did work Iowa, Illinois, Michigan,
Wisconsin and Minnesota among other states on 2m SSB a few evenings
back. I didn't bother to check to see if everyone was operating where
he is permitted to be.

Shouldn't have been a problem, them being domestic and bound by the
same privs you are (with the exception of the Novice. Work any
"out-of-the-box WN-prefix Extras?").

I just made sure that I was where I was
permitted to be.

That's the best policy.

Thanks for your interest.

Dave K8MN

Quitewelcome.

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

Suit yourself. You're not the world's greatest DXer, merely well
known.

I believe I've pointed that out each time you or Len has used the
"World's Greatest DXer" tag as a reference to me. Yet both of you
continue to make the same mistake over and over. Is it because neither
of you is capable of learning or because it is an attempt to take a
cheap shot at me?
I don't believe either of you is very well known in DXing.

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

I didn't think you knew the answer.

"Steve."

I'm sorry. That is incorrect. "William", "Brian" or "liar" would have
been an acceptable response. Thanks for playing.

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Small world, so are yours.

That's right. Anyone can find out quite a bit about them by doing a
Google search. It's odd that when I did the same for yours, nuttin'
came up except one log entry from a Swede during the time you were in
KH2-land.
I'm pretty sure that there's nothing a guy like you could learn from me.

I wouldn't say that. I could probably learn something amateur radio
related from you, maybe even a lot.

I just don't like your accusations or your approach.

My accusations? The accusation where I corrected your use of the term
"World's Greatest DXer"? The accusation where I've told you that I'm
not responsible for where foreign hams operate, only for where I
operate? Maybe it was the accusation that because you continue to tell
deliberate untruths, that you're a liar.

Work France on 6 lately?

No, "William", I haven't.

Phew!

I note your relief. Why would anyone I work on 6 meters or any other
band be of concern to you?

I did work Iowa, Illinois, Michigan,
Wisconsin and Minnesota among other states on 2m SSB a few evenings
back. I didn't bother to check to see if everyone was operating where
he is permitted to be.

Shouldn't have been a problem, them being domestic and bound by the
same privs you are (with the exception of the Novice.

Ah, but without my checking, isn't it quite possible that some scofflaw
Novice sneaked onto the 2m band for a quick QSO? Isn't your position
that I should be concerned enough to check these things?

Work any
"out-of-the-box WN-prefix Extras?").

I have no idea.

I just made sure that I was where I was
permitted to be.

That's the best policy.

I've been telling you that for some time now.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

Suit yourself. You're not the world's greatest DXer, merely well
known.

I believe I've pointed that out each time you or Len has used the
"World's Greatest DXer" tag as a reference to me. Yet both of you
continue to make the same mistake over and over. Is it because neither
of you is capable of learning or because it is an attempt to take a
cheap shot at me?

Oh, gee. You sure don't mind dealing in cheap shots until one comes
your way.

Toughen up a little, whydoncha?

I don't believe either of you is very well known in DXing.

Sorry, but it was not a "career goal" of mine.

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

I didn't think you knew the answer.

"Steve."

I'm sorry. That is incorrect. "William", "Brian" or "liar" would have
been an acceptable response. Thanks for playing.

Oh, my! I think you just called me a liar.

Get in line, I don't think Steve's done yet. And bring your lunch.

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Small world, so are yours.

That's right. Anyone can find out quite a bit about them by doing a
Google search. It's odd that when I did the same for yours, nuttin'
came up except one log entry from a Swede during the time you were in
KH2-land.
I'm pretty sure that there's nothing a guy like you could learn from me.

I wouldn't say that. I could probably learn something amateur radio
related from you, maybe even a lot.

I just don't like your accusations or your approach.

My accusations? The accusation where I corrected your use of the term
"World's Greatest DXer"? The accusation where I've told you that I'm
not responsible for where foreign hams operate, only for where I
operate? Maybe it was the accusation that because you continue to tell
deliberate untruths, that you're a liar.

I educated you with respect to operating amateur radio in a location
without a government.

Later you say I didn't.

Work France on 6 lately?

No, "William", I haven't.

Phew!

I note your relief. Why would anyone I work on 6 meters or any other
band be of concern to you?

You have a reputation for working out-of-banders.

I did work Iowa, Illinois, Michigan,
Wisconsin and Minnesota among other states on 2m SSB a few evenings
back. I didn't bother to check to see if everyone was operating where
he is permitted to be.

Shouldn't have been a problem, them being domestic and bound by the
same privs you are (with the exception of the Novice.

Ah, but without my checking, isn't it quite possible that some scofflaw
Novice sneaked onto the 2m band for a quick QSO?

Scofflaw Novices!

Isn't your position
that I should be concerned enough to check these things?

If one had an obvious Novice callsign, such as "WNx...," you might
have to wonder. Often people volunteer what their amateur "status"
is, such as "I'm a Novice." That is another decent clue. Or, you
might be told that they are operating out of band.

The real problem occurs when you know they are out of band, but just
keep right on collecting those greenstamps.

Work any
"out-of-the-box WN-prefix Extras?").

I have no idea.

I just made sure that I was where I was
permitted to be.

That's the best policy.

I've been telling you that for some time now.

Dave K8MN

Congrats. It's a good first step.

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

Suit yourself. You're not the world's greatest DXer, merely well
known.

I believe I've pointed that out each time you or Len has used the
"World's Greatest DXer" tag as a reference to me. Yet both of you
continue to make the same mistake over and over. Is it because neither
of you is capable of learning or because it is an attempt to take a
cheap shot at me?

Oh, gee. You sure don't mind dealing in cheap shots until one comes
your way.

Anything in particular come to mind when you came up with that
statement?

Toughen up a little, whydoncha?

I have. I have a low tolerance for your deliberate falsehoods. I
intend to call you on them when you write them here.

I don't believe either of you is very well known in DXing.

Sorry, but it was not a "career goal" of mine.

It isn't a career goal of anyone. There is no way to make a living at
DXing.

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

I didn't think you knew the answer.

"Steve."

I'm sorry. That is incorrect. "William", "Brian" or "liar" would have
been an acceptable response. Thanks for playing.

Oh, my! I think you just called me a liar.

By George, I believe you're right.

Get in line, I don't think Steve's done yet. And bring your lunch.

No need for a line--there's plenty of room. I don't intend to get
caught up in your jousts with Steve.


Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Small world, so are yours.

That's right. Anyone can find out quite a bit about them by doing a
Google search. It's odd that when I did the same for yours, nuttin'
came up except one log entry from a Swede during the time you were in
KH2-land.
I'm pretty sure that there's nothing a guy like you could learn from me.

I wouldn't say that. I could probably learn something amateur radio
related from you, maybe even a lot.

I just don't like your accusations or your approach.

My accusations? The accusation where I corrected your use of the term
"World's Greatest DXer"? The accusation where I've told you that I'm
not responsible for where foreign hams operate, only for where I
operate? Maybe it was the accusation that because you continue to tell
deliberate untruths, that you're a liar.

I educated you with respect to operating amateur radio in a location
without a government.

No, you did no such thing. You did, however reveal yourself to be quite
naive in such matters.

Later you say I didn't.

By "later" you mean that I didn't write that you didn't at the same time
you posted the comment?

Work France on 6 lately?

No, "William", I haven't.

Phew!

I note your relief. Why would anyone I work on 6 meters or any other
band be of concern to you?

You have a reputation for working out-of-banders.

Actually, that is another deliberately false statement. You are the
party who has made such statements.

I did work Iowa, Illinois, Michigan,
Wisconsin and Minnesota among other states on 2m SSB a few evenings
back. I didn't bother to check to see if everyone was operating where
he is permitted to be.

Shouldn't have been a problem, them being domestic and bound by the
same privs you are (with the exception of the Novice.

Ah, but without my checking, isn't it quite possible that some scofflaw
Novice sneaked onto the 2m band for a quick QSO?

Scofflaw Novices!

Isn't your position
that I should be concerned enough to check these things?

If one had an obvious Novice callsign, such as "WNx...," you might
have to wonder.

I know a number of Extra class licensees with WN callsigns.

Often people volunteer what their amateur "status"
is, such as "I'm a Novice."

I don't believe I've ever had a QSO where someone blurts out, "I'm a
Novice".

That is another decent clue.

No, it isn't.

Or, you
might be told that they are operating out of band.

Did you mean that someone I'm working is going to offer up a gem like,
"I'm out of band" or that some little weasel who spends his time
checking to see if other stations are operating where they're permitted
to be is going to call me to say, "He's out of band; he's out of band!"?

The real problem occurs when you know they are out of band, but just
keep right on collecting those greenstamps.

No such "real" problem has presented itself to me. What is your worry
about "greenstamps"? Is this one of your fetishes like the use of the
Farnsworth method in morse testing or repeater clubs having dues?
Are you concerned that hordes of domestic 2 meter SSB ops are filling
my mailbox with dollars?

Work any
"out-of-the-box WN-prefix Extras?").

I have no idea.

I just made sure that I was where I was
permitted to be.

That's the best policy.

I've been telling you that for some time now.

Congrats. It's a good first step.

Yes, and I'm pleased that you've taken it. There may be hope for you
yet.

Dave K8MN

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William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
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William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
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William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that
we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other
countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag
a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to
tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never
claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the
compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a
number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

Suit yourself. You're not the world's greatest DXer, merely well
known.

I believe I've pointed that out each time you or Len has used the
"World's Greatest DXer" tag as a reference to me. Yet both of you
continue to make the same mistake over and over. Is it because neither
of you is capable of learning or because it is an attempt to take a
cheap shot at me?

Oh, gee. You sure don't mind dealing in cheap shots until one comes
your way.

Anything in particular come to mind when you came up with that
statement?

Toughen up a little, whydoncha?

I have. I have a low tolerance for your deliberate falsehoods.

Tsk. You have "low tolerance" (practically none) for any
independent thought or opinion other than your own. :-)


It isn't a career goal of anyone. There is no way to make a living at
DXing.

Tsk. Job printers making QSL cards might disagree with you. :-)

More tsk: Many ads for amateur HF transceivers and HF antennas
come right out and say buying their things is good for DX. Those
ads keep appearing so the makers are making money at it... :-)


Get in line, I don't think Steve's done yet. And bring your lunch.

No need for a line--there's plenty of room. I don't intend to get
caught up in your jousts with Steve.

Steve who?

There's an emotional wreck rambling around in here with the
rank of credentialed gunnery nurse. :-)


I educated you with respect to operating amateur radio in a location
without a government.

No, you did no such thing. You did, however reveal yourself to be quite
naive in such matters.

Brian was wrong only in that it is Impossible to tell an olde-tyme
hamme knowitall anything... :-)


You have a reputation for working out-of-banders.

Actually, that is another deliberately false statement. You are the
party who has made such statements.

Tsk. Denial of what all readers could see in here.


Often people volunteer what their amateur "status"
is, such as "I'm a Novice."

I don't believe I've ever had a QSO where someone blurts out, "I'm a
Novice".

Do you ever deign to work lowly non-extras, your lordship?


That is another decent clue.

No, it isn't.

You are without a clue? :-)

Tsk.

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

It isn't a career goal of anyone. There is no way to make a living at
DXing.

Tsk. Job printers making QSL cards might disagree with you. :-)

That isn't likely. They make their living from printing. :-) :-)
That isn't making a career of DXing.

More tsk: Many ads for amateur HF transceivers and HF antennas
come right out and say buying their things is good for DX. Those
ads keep appearing so the makers are making money at it... :-)

Tsk, tsk. Those companies make their living manufacturing and selling
amateur radio equipment. That isn't making a career of DXing. :-) :-)

Get in line, I don't think Steve's done yet. And bring your lunch.

No need for a line--there's plenty of room. I don't intend to get
caught up in your jousts with Steve.

Steve who?

Ask "William".


Often people volunteer what their amateur "status"
is, such as "I'm a Novice."

I don't believe I've ever had a QSO where someone blurts out, "I'm a
Novice".

Do you ever deign to work lowly non-extras, your lordship?

Writing a book, Foghorn? Make it a mystery and leave this chapter out.

Dave K8MN

"I actually voted for John Kerry...before I voted against him".

"Willy Weeper" wrote


You know Hans, I was beginning to think that maybe, just maybe,
I was alone in the world being interested in knowing what the
frequency allocations for various DX entities were.


Since there are something over 230 "DX entities", you have a daunting
research and collation task on your hands.

Or you could hit the web and point your browser at
http://www.iaru-r2.org/hf_e.htm for a reasonable summary.

73, de Hans, K0HB

"KØHB" wrote in message link.net...
"Willy Weeper" wrote


You know Hans, I was beginning to think that maybe, just maybe,
I was alone in the world being interested in knowing what the
frequency allocations for various DX entities were.


Since there are something over 230 "DX entities", you have a daunting
research and collation task on your hands.

Newbie Dee didn't shrink away from the task.

Hans, please note that I said various, and not "all." Anyone can
bumble about and get 180 or 190 so called countries. That last 40 or
so probably require a slightly different strategy. Would you choose
to remain ignorant of the operating priveleges of those last forty
countries, or would you work smarter, not harder?

Or you could hit the web and point your browser at
http://www.iaru-r2.org/hf_e.htm for a reasonable summary.

73, de Hans, K0HB

And there you have it!

Thanks, bb

Subject: foreign amateur radio policy
From: (William)
Date: 10/22/2004 7:03 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Hans, please note that I said various, and not "all." Anyone can
bumble about and get 180 or 190 so called countries.

So what's YOUR problem...?!?!

BBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! !

That last 40 or
so probably require a slightly different strategy.

Of course YOU know this from your lofty postion of number...WHAT, on the
DXCC roll...?!?!

Would you choose
to remain ignorant of the operating priveleges of those last forty
countries, or would you work smarter, not harder?

Please, Brain, P L E A S E give us all those juicy operating tips that
you've leared over the years that got YOU onto the DXCC Honor Roll...?!?!

ROTMFFLMMFAO!

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: foreign amateur radio policy
From: (William)
Date: 10/24/2004 7:26 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Steve, I detect a note of green envy whenever I mention my DX
operations. Get over it.

Get over WHAT, Brain?

Not a single bit of it is documented as having happened (that I am aware
of).

No DXCC. No announcements in any of the journals. Nothing. Just your
"word" and THAT has already been PROVEN to be dubious, at best.

And I presented the number of countries
that I worked because you asked.

I didn't ask you how many countries you worked, Brain. (Anyone remember a
post from this scumbag in the last 24 hours "chastising" others for "twisting
words"???)

The question was ""Of course YOU know this from your lofty position of
number...WHAT, on the DXCC roll...?!?!"

You are not ON the DXCC roll, Brain...Not under ANY of the calls you have
cited.

As far as DXCC goes, I don't need the ARRL involved.

I am sure Dave Sumner is laying awake at night distraught that you won't
send all those juicy "DX" QSL's in for verification.

I neither ask for "thier" approval nor
endorsements. The DX is in my logs, and if the other station wants a
card, all they have to do is QSL me through the buro. By the way,
you're not in my /KH2 logs, so don't bother. And Jim's no longer the
KH2 Buro manager, so don't try to wrangle one out of him either.

No problem, Brain.

I have KH2 worked, confirmed AND annotated for DXCC.

BTW...I also worked KH2 FROM JR6...I missed being eligible for DXCC
from JR6 by 12 countries...Oh well....

Finally, I am not responsible for your typo's. If I quote your typo,
please be man enough to accept it for what it is, i.e., "...MMFAO!".

What typo?

Here's the post AGAIN:

Please, Brain, P L E A S E give us all those juicy operating tips
that
you've leared over the years that got YOU onto the DXCC Honor
Roll...?!?!

ROTMFFLMMFAO!

Steve, K4YZ

I don't have DXCC.

Obviously. Pretty embarrassing, too, since you have allegedly
been in some ideal places to get it.

But I believe you when you say "...MMFOA."

Brain...

You B L I T H E R I N G I D I O T ! ! ! ! ! !

You could have saved face just by READING what was RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!

YOU requoted YOUR ERROR in your LAME attempt to "chastise" me over not
being "responsible" for my typos!

THEN you try and cover it up by correcting it in a second post, hoping no
one would see YOUR error!

And the ONLY person who can't see what a FOOL you are is YOU!

Sheeeeeesh!

Steve, K4YZ

"William" wrote in message
om...
"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
"Willy Weeper" wrote


You know Hans, I was beginning to think that maybe, just maybe,
I was alone in the world being interested in knowing what the
frequency allocations for various DX entities were.


Since there are something over 230 "DX entities", you have a daunting
research and collation task on your hands.

Newbie Dee didn't shrink away from the task.


Why do you consider me a newbie?? I've been licensed for over 14 years with
over 13 years as an extra. That certainly takes me out of the newbie class.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message ...
"William" wrote in message
om...
"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
"Willy Weeper" wrote


You know Hans, I was beginning to think that maybe, just maybe,
I was alone in the world being interested in knowing what the
frequency allocations for various DX entities were.


Since there are something over 230 "DX entities", you have a daunting
research and collation task on your hands.

Newbie Dee didn't shrink away from the task.


Why do you consider me a newbie?? I've been licensed for over 14 years with
over 13 years as an extra. That certainly takes me out of the newbie class.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee, ham years are like dog years, only inverted. Sorry, but that's
just the way it is.

Subject: foreign amateur radio policy
From: (William)
Date: 10/26/2004 3:44 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
. com...

You mean "Get used to our lying because we haven't even started
yet"...?!?!

No lies.

"I operated legally from Somalia"

"Unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency comms"

To name a few....

I don't believe either of you is very well known in DXing.

Sorry, but it was not a "career goal" of mine.

Whew! Sure glad to hear that. Because based upon what we HAVE
seen of your "DXing" skills, you, the Little Woman and the kids would
be homeless and hungry.

You've seen nothing of my DX skills. I've received neither a QSL card
nor SWL card from you in any callsign.

Unlikely that you would.

You would have had to actually been ON THE AIR in order for me to ahve
worked you or copied you for an SWL card.

I'm sorry. That is incorrect. "William", "Brian" or "liar" would have
been an acceptable response. Thanks for playing.

Oh, my! I think you just called me a liar.

Why not? You've lied repeatedly. You ARE a liar.

No lies.

"I operated legally from Somalia"

Get in line, I don't think Steve's done yet. And bring your lunch.

Stop lying, I'll stop calling you a liar.

It really is THAT simple.

You call me a liar for having an opinion. You're nuts.

"I operqated legally from Somalia"

"Unlicensed devices play a major roll in emergency comms".

My accusations? The accusation where I corrected your use of the term
"World's Greatest DXer"? The accusation where I've told you that I'm
not responsible for where foreign hams operate, only for where I
operate? Maybe it was the accusation that because you continue to tell
deliberate untruths, that you're a liar.

I educated you with respect to operating amateur radio in a location
without a government.

YOU have not educated ANYone, Brain.

I have.

No, you've not.

Wait...

I take that back...

You HAVE educated us as to waht an unrepentent liar you are.

YOU have yet to show where YOU know what the laws are. Indeed,
there's not one shred of evidence that you've ever done the things you
claim you have.

Poor Steve. Gotta have papers. "Yes Sgt. Shults, here are my
papers."

It's not about what I "gotta have"...Brain.

It's about what you NEED to have...You NEED to prove some of these
outlandish statements you keep making.

So far you've got several YEARS worth of "stupid" on file, and not one bit
of valid support of anything you've stated otehrwise.

Later you say I didn't.

Because you haven't.

I have.

Then you've lies AGAIN, Brain! Sheeeeesh. Give you EVERY opportunity to
back yourself out of your numerous corners gracefully, and you STILL run
headlong into more idiotic assertions.

Isn't your position
that I should be concerned enough to check these things?

If one had an obvious Novice callsign, such as "WNx...," you might
have to wonder. Often people volunteer what their amateur "status"
is, such as "I'm a Novice." That is another decent clue. Or, you
might be told that they are operating out of band.

The real problem occurs when you know they are out of band, but just
keep right on collecting those greenstamps.

The FCC has not issued "Novice" callsigns since 1976. There are
quite a few folks with Extra Class and Advenced Class licenses with WN
prefixes.

So you are saying that all Novices who once held WN prefixes now hold
some other kind of prefix?

WHERE did you get THAT?

There are also several 1x2's with General and Advanced Class
licenses on the books as of this date.

And plenty of Tech's with 2x2's.

OOOOOPS!

Brain got one right!

Stop while you are ahead, Brain.

Steve, K4YZ

Stop while you're down. Cut your losses instead of going for broke.

I'm not "down" any, Brain.

You need to be reading the comments of others over the last couple
days...Not just your's and Lennie's stuff.

Steve, K4YZ