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The dems booed the boy scouts of america while they brought out a flag
and recited the pledge of allegiance at their 1996 convention. I have no respect whatsoever for the people [resent who dit not try to stop it, who allowed it to continue, and did not afterwards censure the people who propagated it. As you seem to believe, character does count. So, Michael, please name one liberal (or "democrat") organization that promotes character in boys and yound men? I wish you the very best of luck on that one, and I do hope that you succeed. bb |
bb wrote:
The dems booed the boy scouts of america while they brought out a flag and recited the pledge of allegiance at their 1996 convention. I have no respect whatsoever for the people [resent who dit not try to stop it, who allowed it to continue, and did not afterwards censure the people who propagated it. What is the logic behind your answer? As you seem to believe, character does count. So, Michael, please name one liberal (or "democrat") organization that promotes character in boys and yound men? I know lots of Democrats that support the Boy Scouts, and lots of independents. You take what SOME people who align themselves with the Democrats do and apply that to the whole. That is a losing game, as there are segments of Republicans that are similarly fringy. I wish you the very best of luck on that one, and I do hope that you succeed. So it is okay to be corrupt as long as you are a Republican. Good to see where exactly you are coming from. - Mike KB3EIA - |
""" What is the logic behind your answer?"""
Must my answer confrom to liberal logic? As you seem to believe, character does count. So, Michael, please name one liberal (or "democrat") organization that promotes character in boys and yound men? I know lots of Democrats that support the Boy Scouts, and lots of independents. Wunnerful. I know lots of people, too! That is NOT THE ISSUE! Why was the BSA booed at the """DNC Convention""" while they brought out the American Flad and recited the Pledge of Allegiance? Why??? """You take what SOME people who align themselves with the Democrats do and apply that to the whole.""" ABSO-FRIGGIN-LUTELY!!! Every Democrat has to accept responsibility for that act. Were they Mujahadeen??? And I take what happened at the DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL ____CONVENTION 0___ to represent the Democratic PARTY!!! If you don't like it, find a new party. """That is a losing game, as there are segments of Republicans that are similarly fringy.""" Oh, my. People that believe in God. Wonder if Jews beieve in God? Wonder if Palistinians believe in God? Wonder if Methodists believe in God? Wonder if Rev Jim believes in God? It's just so awful that there are still luddites that believe in God. NYT says "God is Dead!" But we must have a Palestinian State because Allah wants it. I wish you the very best of luck on that one, and I do hope that you succeed. """So it is okay to be corrupt as long as you are a Republican. Good to see where exactly you are coming from.""" WTF did that come from? Must be somekindof Al Franken spagmasm??? Wonder where Geneen Giraffala weighed in on that one??? Anyhow, you failed to name a single liberal youth organization that promotes character. And I know why that is. It's so friggin easy to know why that is. C'mon liberal Mike. Ask me why it's so easy to know that. C'mon, ask why!!! - Mike KB3EIA - Mike, I noticed that you failed to list any liberal organization that was pro character building. "Reply" Oh, my! 2004 becoming 2005. My 10YO Cub Scouts/America son just got an Eddie Bauer 0 deg sleeping bag. And he earned his just "readyman" badge and knows the basics of first aid. Maybe someday he'll hike-in and save your liberal ass. |
In article , Mike Coslo
writes: The pubs have found the way to clean up congress: http://tinyurl.com/5w3ct Fascinating! I wonder why they want to change that standard? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
bb wrote:
""" What is the logic behind your answer?""" Must my answer confrom to liberal logic? As you seem to believe, character does count. So, Michael, please name one liberal (or "democrat") organization that promotes character in boys and yound men? I know lots of Democrats that support the Boy Scouts, and lots of independents. Wunnerful. I know lots of people, too! That is NOT THE ISSUE! Why was the BSA booed at the """DNC Convention""" while they brought out the American Flad and recited the Pledge of Allegiance? Why??? """You take what SOME people who align themselves with the Democrats do and apply that to the whole.""" ABSO-FRIGGIN-LUTELY!!! Every Democrat has to accept responsibility for that act. Were they Mujahadeen??? And I take what happened at the DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL ____CONVENTION 0___ to represent the Democratic PARTY!!! If you don't like it, find a new party. """That is a losing game, as there are segments of Republicans that are similarly fringy.""" Oh, my. People that believe in God. Wonder if Jews beieve in God? Wonder if Palistinians believe in God? Wonder if Methodists believe in God? Wonder if Rev Jim believes in God? It's just so awful that there are still luddites that believe in God. NYT says "God is Dead!" But we must have a Palestinian State because Allah wants it. I wish you the very best of luck on that one, and I do hope that you succeed. """So it is okay to be corrupt as long as you are a Republican. Good to see where exactly you are coming from.""" WTF did that come from? Must be somekindof Al Franken spagmasm??? Wonder where Geneen Giraffala weighed in on that one??? Anyhow, you failed to name a single liberal youth organization that promotes character. And I know why that is. It's so friggin easy to know why that is. C'mon liberal Mike. Ask me why it's so easy to know that. C'mon, ask why!!! - Mike KB3EIA - Mike, I noticed that you failed to list any liberal organization that was pro character building. "Reply" Oh, my! 2004 becoming 2005. My 10YO Cub Scouts/America son just got an Eddie Bauer 0 deg sleeping bag. And he earned his just "readyman" badge and knows the basics of first aid. Maybe someday he'll hike-in and save your liberal ass. Brian, get help. - Mike KB3EIA - |
bb wrote:
""" What is the logic behind your answer?""" Must my answer confrom to liberal logic? As opposed to your logic? Is your logic conservative logic? As you seem to believe, character does count. So, Michael, please name one liberal (or "democrat") organization that promotes character in boys and yound men? Do the republicans own the Boy scouts? I know lots of Democrats that support the Boy Scouts, and lots of independents. Wunnerful. I know lots of people, too! That is NOT THE ISSUE! The issue is that republicans are considering puttin through legislation that weakens ethics rules. Why was the BSA booed at the """DNC Convention""" while they brought out the American Flad and recited the Pledge of Allegiance? Why??? """You take what SOME people who align themselves with the Democrats do and apply that to the whole.""" ABSO-FRIGGIN-LUTELY!!! Every Democrat has to accept responsibility for that act. Were they Mujahadeen??? And I take what happened at the DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL ____CONVENTION 0___ to represent the Democratic PARTY!!! If you don't like it, find a new party. Ain't my party, Brian! """That is a losing game, as there are segments of Republicans that are similarly fringy.""" Oh, my. People that believe in God. Wonder if Jews beieve in God? Wonder if Palistinians believe in God? Wonder if Methodists believe in God? Wonder if Rev Jim believes in God? So all you have to do is to Believe in God, and whatever else you do is okay? It's just so awful that there are still luddites that believe in God. NYT says "God is Dead!" But we must have a Palestinian State because Allah wants it. I wish you the very best of luck on that one, and I do hope that you succeed. """So it is okay to be corrupt as long as you are a Republican. Good to see where exactly you are coming from.""" WTF did that come from? Must be somekindof Al Franken spagmasm??? Wonder where Geneen Giraffala weighed in on that one??? It is what you are saying. I note that Republicans are considering legislation to weaken the ethics rules, and you answer that Democrats don't support the Boy Scouts, and that Republicans believe in God. You never even addressed the original question. So YES, you ARE saying that it is okay to be corrupt as long as you are Republican! Anyhow, you failed to name a single liberal youth organization that promotes character. And I know why that is. It's so friggin easy to know why that is. C'mon liberal Mike. Ask me why it's so easy to know that. C'mon, ask why!!! HAH, Good one Brian. I am not liberal. I am independent, registered and otherwise. I take my political philosophy from what is out there, and think about it, rather than just do what "my party" tells me to. So from your other postings, I can tell you that in some respects you are what to the left of my philosophy. You don't know what all my positions are because they can't be looked up by party platform. So whats it like being a liberal by comparison. I'm interested in all politicians being ethical, not just Republicans. Is that a bad thing? Is is a good idea? Might it be better to think about it rather than respond by accusing me of not supporting the Boy scouts, being a liberal, or that - Mike KB3EIA - Mike, I noticed that you failed to list any liberal organization that was pro character building. Yeah, the Boy scouts. I don't see anything about the Boy scouts being a republican or conservative organization. Oh, my! 2004 becoming 2005. My 10YO Cub Scouts/America son just got an Eddie Bauer 0 deg sleeping bag. And he earned his just "readyman" badge and knows the basics of first aid. Maybe someday he'll hike-in and save your liberal ass. Brian, spare me the foaming at the mouth stuff. If you want to believe that the Boy scouts are the reason that it is okay for the Republicans to soften up the ethics rules. Then so be it, I'll accept that as your answer. I was in the Boy scouts, My son was in the Cub souts and Boy Scouts. I occasionally make presentations to the local Boy Scouts as part of their meetings or to get interest going for possible merit badge work. I have been asked and am considering being a merit badge counseler. I might suggest going back and reading the Scout oath and Scout law. - Mike KB3EIA - |
N2EY wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo writes: The pubs have found the way to clean up congress: http://tinyurl.com/5w3ct Fascinating! I wonder why they want to change that standard? The immediate purpose is to get Tom DeLay out of his ethics situation. - Mike KB3EIA - |
Mike Coslo wrote: bb wrote: """ What is the logic behind your answer?""" Must my answer confrom to liberal logic? As opposed to your logic? Is your logic conservative logic? In most respects. I have voted for levy's for programs which help addicted people. As you seem to believe, character does count. So, Michael, please name one liberal (or "democrat") organization that promotes character in boys and yound men? Do the republicans own the Boy scouts? That isn't the point. The point is that at the Democratic National Convention, the Boy Scouts were booed while performing a flag ceremony and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. It was televised. I know lots of Democrats that support the Boy Scouts, and lots of independents. Wunnerful. I know lots of people, too! That is NOT THE ISSUE! The issue is that republicans are considering puttin through legislation that weakens ethics rules. So stop them. Why was the BSA booed at the """DNC Convention""" while they brought out the American Flad and recited the Pledge of Allegiance? Why??? """You take what SOME people who align themselves with the Democrats do and apply that to the whole.""" ABSO-FRIGGIN-LUTELY!!! Every Democrat has to accept responsibility for that act. Were they Mujahadeen??? And I take what happened at the DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL ____CONVENTION 0___ to represent the Democratic PARTY!!! If you don't like it, find a new party. Ain't my party, Brian! Ah, yes. An Independant. Why are the Indies always hitching rides on that platform? """That is a losing game, as there are segments of Republicans that are similarly fringy.""" Oh, my. People that believe in God. Wonder if Jews beieve in God? Wonder if Palistinians believe in God? Wonder if Methodists believe in God? Wonder if Rev Jim believes in God? So all you have to do is to Believe in God, and whatever else you do is okay? Huh??? You brought up "fringies." Right now that means the Christians. You know, people who attend church. Declaring ones faith and attending church somehow makes a person bad. It's just so awful that there are still luddites that believe in God. NYT says "God is Dead!" But we must have a Palestinian State because Allah wants it. I wish you the very best of luck on that one, and I do hope that you succeed. """So it is okay to be corrupt as long as you are a Republican. Good to see where exactly you are coming from.""" WTF did that come from? Must be somekindof Al Franken spagmasm??? Wonder where Geneen Giraffala weighed in on that one??? It is what you are saying. I note that Republicans are considering legislation to weaken the ethics rules, and you answer that Democrats don't support the Boy Scouts, and that Republicans believe in God. You never even addressed the original question. So YES, you ARE saying that it is okay to be corrupt as long as you are Republican! Absolutely not. Anyhow, you failed to name a single liberal youth organization that promotes character. And I know why that is. It's so friggin easy to know why that is. C'mon liberal Mike. Ask me why it's so easy to know that. C'mon, ask why!!! HAH, Good one Brian. I am not liberal. I am independent, registered and otherwise. I take my political philosophy from what is out there, and think about it, rather than just do what "my party" tells me to. Wow! By declaring a party, the conservative voter need not even see the ballot. They must vote the party line. I hadn't known that. Thanks for a lesson in civics and the rightiousness of being Independant. FYI, having core values and beliefs doesn't bind you vote for poor candidates, unless you are offered only poor candidates to vote for. Many unfortunate voters find themselves voting for "the lesser of two evils." As a result, many conservative voters stay home and the left takes over. So from your other postings, I can tell you that in some respects you are what to the left of my philosophy. You don't know what all my positions are because they can't be looked up by party platform. So whats it like being a liberal by comparison. Sweet. Apparently I'm all things to all people. ;^) I'm interested in all politicians being ethical, not just Republicans. Is that a bad thing? Is is a good idea? Might it be better to think about it rather than respond by accusing me of not supporting the Boy scouts, being a liberal, or that Ethics is a good thing. Politics is something else. - Mike KB3EIA - Mike, I noticed that you failed to list any liberal organization that was pro character building. Yeah, the Boy scouts. Good answer. Hi! I don't see anything about the Boy scouts being a republican or conservative organization. The organization teaches self reliance, personal achievement and personal responsibility among other things. They constantly work on civic projects which rely upon volunteerism and donations, not taxes and more government workers. The BSA doesn't have a welfare merit badge. Oh, my! 2004 becoming 2005. My 10YO Cub Scouts/America son just got an Eddie Bauer 0 deg sleeping bag. And he earned his just "readyman" badge and knows the basics of first aid. Maybe someday he'll hike-in and save your liberal ass. Brian, spare me the foaming at the mouth stuff. It's just like the "Morse Code will someday save us all" froth. Somehow I thought it just might ring a bell in here. Guess not, sorry to have even tried. If you want to believe that the Boy scouts are the reason that it is okay for the Republicans to soften up the ethics rules. Then so be it, I'll accept that as your answer. I was in the Boy scouts, My son was in the Cub souts and Boy Scouts. I occasionally make presentations to the local Boy Scouts as part of their meetings or to get interest going for possible merit badge work. I have been asked and am considering being a merit badge counseler. I brought up the 1996 incident where the Democrats booed the BSA at their national convention. I said nothing about the Republicans. Why you continue with your charade that the BSA is giving the Republicans a pass on ethics is beyond me. I might suggest going back and reading the Scout oath and Scout law. - Mike KB3EIA - Thanks, I will. On my honor I will do my best To do my duty to God and my country And to obey the Scout law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight. |
bb wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote: bb wrote: """ What is the logic behind your answer?""" Must my answer confrom to liberal logic? As opposed to your logic? Is your logic conservative logic? In most respects. I have voted for levy's for programs which help addicted people. As you seem to believe, character does count. So, Michael, please name one liberal (or "democrat") organization that promotes character in boys and yound men? Do the republicans own the Boy scouts? That isn't the point. The point is that at the Democratic National Convention, the Boy Scouts were booed while performing a flag ceremony and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. It was televised. That's nice, Brian. Why are you bothering me about the Democrats? I ain't one! I know lots of Democrats that support the Boy Scouts, and lots of independents. Wunnerful. I know lots of people, too! That is NOT THE ISSUE! The issue is that republicans are considering puttin through legislation that weakens ethics rules. So stop them. I can't. But I can note what they are doing as long as it remains legal. Why was the BSA booed at the """DNC Convention""" while they brought out the American Flad and recited the Pledge of Allegiance? Why??? """You take what SOME people who align themselves with the Democrats do and apply that to the whole.""" ABSO-FRIGGIN-LUTELY!!! Every Democrat has to accept responsibility for that act. Were they Mujahadeen??? And I take what happened at the DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL ____CONVENTION 0___ to represent the Democratic PARTY!!! If you don't like it, find a new party. Ain't my party, Brian! Ah, yes. An Independant. Why are the Indies always hitching rides on that platform? How's that? My voting record has been about 65-70 percent Republican. The party has taken a decidedly liberal shift as of late though """That is a losing game, as there are segments of Republicans that are similarly fringy.""" Oh, my. People that believe in God. Wonder if Jews beieve in God? Wonder if Palistinians believe in God? Wonder if Methodists believe in God? Wonder if Rev Jim believes in God? So all you have to do is to Believe in God, and whatever else you do is okay? Huh??? You brought up "fringies." Right now that means the Christians. You know, people who attend church. Declaring ones faith and attending church somehow makes a person bad. I think I see something here, Brian. I write something, and you see something else. If I meant Christians, I would have said Christians. Not all Christians are Republicans. My family is for the most part, devout Christians and they are not Republicans. In your effort to make this so Black and white, you put words in my mouth. Don't, if you want to discuss things in a rational manner. Republican fringe groups: Neocons - Neocons are liberals that have had waaaay too much coffee and have a nasty attitude for it. They are liberalizing the Republican party at exactly the right time for their purposes. At this time, a lot of the republican faithful are so polarized against Democrats that if the party platform were to become a clone of FDR's New deal, they would rally behind it. The far right nasty groups. These take many forms, such as the new south people that want history "revised", to the people that want to rewrite science under the guise of their religion. Don't tell me this is dissing Christians. This is ideology. This is the same thing as when the Commies in Russia decided that genetics was not compatible with their stupid workers revolution. They believed that will power could allow animals to change themselves in amazingly short period of time. Fact is it was suppression of fact, and they eventually paid for it. Now are their fringe groups on the Democrat side? You betcha. They have the "alternative sexual reality groups, they have the academic left, they have them to match the pubs, just on the other side of the spectrum. What I am telling you is that your party is being hijacked by liberals. And enough Pubs are going to go along with that. It's just so awful that there are still luddites that believe in God. NYT says "God is Dead!" But we must have a Palestinian State because Allah wants it. I wish you the very best of luck on that one, and I do hope that you succeed. """So it is okay to be corrupt as long as you are a Republican. Good to see where exactly you are coming from.""" WTF did that come from? Must be somekindof Al Franken spagmasm??? Wonder where Geneen Giraffala weighed in on that one??? It is what you are saying. I note that Republicans are considering legislation to weaken the ethics rules, and you answer that Democrats don't support the Boy Scouts, and that Republicans believe in God. You never even addressed the original question. So YES, you ARE saying that it is okay to be corrupt as long as you are Republican! Absolutely not. Anyhow, you failed to name a single liberal youth organization that promotes character. And I know why that is. It's so friggin easy to know why that is. C'mon liberal Mike. Ask me why it's so easy to know that. C'mon, ask why!!! HAH, Good one Brian. I am not liberal. I am independent, registered and otherwise. I take my political philosophy from what is out there, and think about it, rather than just do what "my party" tells me to. Wow! By declaring a party, the conservative voter need not even see the ballot. They must vote the party line. Seems that way sometimes. I hadn't known that. Thanks for a lesson in civics and the rightiousness of being Independant. Any time. FYI, having core values and beliefs doesn't bind you vote for poor candidates, unless you are offered only poor candidates to vote for. Many unfortunate voters find themselves voting for "the lesser of two evils." As a result, many conservative voters stay home and the left takes over. And vice versa. Don't vote, don't bitch! So from your other postings, I can tell you that in some respects you are what to the left of my philosophy. You don't know what all my positions are because they can't be looked up by party platform. So whats it like being a liberal by comparison. Sweet. Apparently I'm all things to all people. ;^) I'm interested in all politicians being ethical, not just Republicans. Is that a bad thing? Is is a good idea? Might it be better to think about it rather than respond by accusing me of not supporting the Boy scouts, being a liberal, or that Ethics is a good thing. Politics is something else. - Mike KB3EIA - Mike, I noticed that you failed to list any liberal organization that was pro character building. Yeah, the Boy scouts. Good answer. Hi! I don't see anything about the Boy scouts being a republican or conservative organization. The organization teaches self reliance, personal achievement and personal responsibility among other things. They constantly work on civic projects which rely upon volunteerism and donations, not taxes and more government workers. The BSA doesn't have a welfare merit badge. Oh, my! 2004 becoming 2005. My 10YO Cub Scouts/America son just got an Eddie Bauer 0 deg sleeping bag. And he earned his just "readyman" badge and knows the basics of first aid. Maybe someday he'll hike-in and save your liberal ass. Brian, spare me the foaming at the mouth stuff. It's just like the "Morse Code will someday save us all" froth. Who you having the discussion with, Brian? I never have and never will say that. I think I'm on record as saying something to the effect that if and when the test goes away, I'll get up in the morning, have my coffee and go on with my life without missing a beat. Somehow I thought it just might ring a bell in here. Guess not, sorry to have even tried. If you want to believe that the Boy scouts are the reason that it is okay for the Republicans to soften up the ethics rules. Then so be it, I'll accept that as your answer. I was in the Boy scouts, My son was in the Cub souts and Boy Scouts. I occasionally make presentations to the local Boy Scouts as part of their meetings or to get interest going for possible merit badge work. I have been asked and am considering being a merit badge counseler. I brought up the 1996 incident where the Democrats booed the BSA at their national convention. I said nothing about the Republicans. Why you continue with your charade that the BSA is giving the Republicans a pass on ethics is beyond me. You brought it up as the reply to my post. Was it a total non sequitur sort of thing, such as if you were to say. It's a nice day, and I answered "Yeah, but Richard Nixon was a crook"? I might suggest going back and reading the Scout oath and Scout law. - Mike KB3EIA - Thanks, I will. On my honor I will do my best To do my duty to God and my country And to obey the Scout law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight. Don't forget the Scout law! - Mike KB3EIA - |
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