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Mike Coslo January 30th 05 03:48 PM

Len's terms of endearment list
 
In another post, I went back through a few weeks messages to find the
cute little nicknames that LenOver21 makes up for people. I was pretty
impressed with the volume, but I know I didn't get them all. I came up
with 21 nicknames.

In the interest of not leaving anyone out who may have received one of
his monikers, let's add to the list he

Nun of the Above
Rev. Jim
Gunnery Nurse
Nursie
Robust Oberst
Nazi
Avenging Angle
Poop Dave
Some kind of Humorless Ham full of Angries
the paragon of Truth and Virtue, he say
Herr Kommandant
James Psychochief Miccolis
Kommandant uf das Neugruppen Waffe
Herr Gruppekommandant
Mr. Petty Chief Ossifer
das gruppenfuhrer
da Katapult King
La Cucaracha
Herr Gasbag
hockey puck
fifth wheel on the four morsemen of the apocalypse

- Mike KB3EIA -


bb January 31st 05 01:12 AM


Mike Coslo wrote:
In another post, I went back through a few weeks messages to find the


cute little nicknames that LenOver21 makes up for people. I was

pretty
impressed with the volume, but I know I didn't get them all. I came

up
with 21 nicknames.

In the interest of not leaving anyone out who may have received one

of
his monikers, let's add to the list he

Nun of the Above
Rev. Jim
Gunnery Nurse
Nursie
Robust Oberst
Nazi
Avenging Angle
Poop Dave
Some kind of Humorless Ham full of Angries
the paragon of Truth and Virtue, he say
Herr Kommandant
James Psychochief Miccolis
Kommandant uf das Neugruppen Waffe
Herr Gruppekommandant
Mr. Petty Chief Ossifer
das gruppenfuhrer
da Katapult King
La Cucaracha
Herr Gasbag
hockey puck
fifth wheel on the four morsemen of the apocalypse

- Mike KB3EIA -


Mike, "Avenging Angel" is mine. bb


Mike Coslo January 31st 05 01:56 AM

bb wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

In another post, I went back through a few weeks messages to find the



cute little nicknames that LenOver21 makes up for people. I was


pretty

impressed with the volume, but I know I didn't get them all. I came


up

with 21 nicknames.

In the interest of not leaving anyone out who may have received one


of

his monikers, let's add to the list he

Nun of the Above
Rev. Jim
Gunnery Nurse
Nursie
Robust Oberst
Nazi


Strike for inaccurate attribute
Avenging Angle


back to list

Poop Dave
Some kind of Humorless Ham full of Angries
the paragon of Truth and Virtue, he say
Herr Kommandant
James Psychochief Miccolis
Kommandant uf das Neugruppen Waffe
Herr Gruppekommandant
Mr. Petty Chief Ossifer
das gruppenfuhrer
da Katapult King
La Cucaracha
Herr Gasbag
hockey puck
fifth wheel on the four morsemen of the apocalypse

- Mike KB3EIA -



Mike, "Avenging Angel" is mine. bb


Oops, sorry about that Brian. I suspect there will be a few missed
attributes in the list.


K4YZ January 31st 05 06:19 AM


Mike Coslo wrote:
bb wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

In another post, I went back through a few weeks messages to find

the


cute little nicknames that LenOver21 makes up for people. I was


pretty

impressed with the volume, but I know I didn't get them all. I came


up

with 21 nicknames.

In the interest of not leaving anyone out who may have received one


of

his monikers, let's add to the list he

Nun of the Above
Rev. Jim
Gunnery Nurse
Nursie
Robust Oberst
Nazi


Strike for inaccurate attribute
Avenging Angle


back to list

Poop Dave
Some kind of Humorless Ham full of Angries
the paragon of Truth and Virtue, he say
Herr Kommandant
James Psychochief Miccolis
Kommandant uf das Neugruppen Waffe
Herr Gruppekommandant
Mr. Petty Chief Ossifer
das gruppenfuhrer
da Katapult King
La Cucaracha
Herr Gasbag
hockey puck
fifth wheel on the four morsemen of the apocalypse

- Mike KB3EIA -



Mike, "Avenging Angel" is mine. bb


Oops, sorry about that Brian. I suspect there will be a few missed
attributes in the list.


Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea into the
more dumberest "Angle".

And you forgot "Brownshirts", "Elitists", "Dr Strangelove" and
"Jimmie".

Oh...and let's not forget "Coslonaut".

If Lennie were to spend as much time on Amateur Radio as he does
dissing Radio Amateurs, he'd get the recognition he THINKS he deserves
now...But, we all know THAT won't happen...!

73

Steve, K4YZ


bb January 31st 05 11:22 AM


K4YZ wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
bb wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

In another post, I went back through a few weeks messages to find

the


cute little nicknames that LenOver21 makes up for people. I was

pretty

impressed with the volume, but I know I didn't get them all. I

came

up

with 21 nicknames.

In the interest of not leaving anyone out who may have received

one

of

his monikers, let's add to the list he

Nun of the Above
Rev. Jim
Gunnery Nurse
Nursie
Robust Oberst
Nazi


Strike for inaccurate attribute
Avenging Angle


back to list

Poop Dave
Some kind of Humorless Ham full of Angries
the paragon of Truth and Virtue, he say
Herr Kommandant
James Psychochief Miccolis
Kommandant uf das Neugruppen Waffe
Herr Gruppekommandant
Mr. Petty Chief Ossifer
das gruppenfuhrer
da Katapult King
La Cucaracha
Herr Gasbag
hockey puck
fifth wheel on the four morsemen of the apocalypse

- Mike KB3EIA -


Mike, "Avenging Angel" is mine. bb


Oops, sorry about that Brian. I suspect there will be a few missed
attributes in the list.


Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea into the
more dumberest "Angle".


Oh, I missed that. Looks like he he's added a new twist and made it
his own. Probably patentable. Awesome.


K4YZ January 31st 05 03:39 PM


bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea into

the
more dumberest "Angle".


Oh, I missed that. Looks like he he's added a new twist and made it
his own. Probably patentable. Awesome.


Brian, I know that for what ever reason...maybe it's just to root
for the underdog, you've "sided" with Lennie.

But myself and a dozen other people have been TRYING to tell you
that Lennie is all-about making OTHER people's work HIS own...That's
partly why Lennie was disinvited from working in Pennsylvania, and
partly why you won't find his name as "author" in any professional
"radio"
journals...At least not since 1980.

Lennie can rant and rave about "PCTA Extras" or "Mighty Morsemen"
all he wants, but his circumstances are his OWN doing, and part of that
"doing" was trying to get by on the works of others.
And that now includes you.

73

Steve, K4YZ


Len Anderson January 31st 05 06:29 PM

In article .com, "bb"
writes:

Oops, sorry about that Brian. I suspect there will be a few missed
attributes in the list.


Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea into the
more dumberest "Angle".


Oh, I missed that. Looks like he he's added a new twist and made it
his own. Probably patentable. Awesome.


Brian, those tongue-in-cheek satiric appelations were justly earned
by all parties. :-)

Actually, "Avenging Angle" applies to nearly all PCTA extras. All
are self-righeously Right even if they aren't in a triangle of being
oh-so-superior to NCTAs. All who don't worship at the Church of
St. Hiram are, to them, heretics and infidels, unworthy of surviving
on the same planet as the PCTA. They are all Right Angles but
perpendicular to the plane of existance of reality of today.

Much earlier in here I'd made mention of one Elfren Saldivar (hope
name is correct), the "Angle of Death" at Glendale Memorial
Hospital in this area. He was a nurse who offed a bunch of
elderly patients "to ease their suffering." Lots of them. Registered
nurse with certificates and everything... Sound familiar? :-)

So...we've got the "forever marine" spending the weekend shouting
epithets using pejoratives not in his ethnic experience, always
being the "avenger" for the "service." We've got the prissy never-
served busy acting like Nun of the Above, rapping the knuckles of
any who don't agree with him (or her). We've got the "forever ham"
of four decades hamming it up into great "superiority" but who
never learned a thing about diplomacy in the State Department
"foreign service." We've got the "university lecturer" who survives
the terrible storms that regularly destroy everything in Hawaii
except the ham rigs and assists other hams in regards to USPS
addresses. We have the coslonaut who wanted hearty
congratulations for a feat he hasn't yet begun but was upset when
he didn't get it. A nice jolly group of down-lookers in their own
PCTA "blog" happily giving each other high-fives for being so
intrinisically superior to all others. The major "superiority" attribute
is cussing out "civilians" not possessing the right ham hobby
papers to show to their raddio kopp schutzstaffel.

They can flog each other in this blog for all I care. [some do]
All their little names are familiar to all who look into this blog.
[it long since dropped out as a discussion place, became a chat
room reserved for their highnesses, a group blog] They've
worked hard at earning all those names and should be proud of
them. :-)

Godwin's observation as the catalyst of their being compared to
the national socialist party of 1930s Germany applies in the truest
form. They gas back and forth so much in the group blog that
they need their own chambers. [again deserved by them]

As to amateur radio policy, only the newsgroup name has any
relevation to "ham radio." They ham it up, not on radio, not on
any "airwaves," only on computers, saved from direct physical
harm through time and distance by insulting all who don't agree
with them. Hear them roar! :-)

- 30 -


Mike Coslo February 1st 05 01:51 AM

K4YZ wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

bb wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:


In another post, I went back through a few weeks messages to find


the


cute little nicknames that LenOver21 makes up for people. I was

pretty


impressed with the volume, but I know I didn't get them all. I came

up


with 21 nicknames.

In the interest of not leaving anyone out who may have received one

of


his monikers, let's add to the list he

Nun of the Above
Rev. Jim
Gunnery Nurse
Nursie
Robust Oberst
Nazi


Strike for inaccurate attribute

Avenging Angle


back to list

Poop Dave
Some kind of Humorless Ham full of Angries
the paragon of Truth and Virtue, he say
Herr Kommandant
James Psychochief Miccolis
Kommandant uf das Neugruppen Waffe
Herr Gruppekommandant
Mr. Petty Chief Ossifer
das gruppenfuhrer
da Katapult King
La Cucaracha
Herr Gasbag
hockey puck
fifth wheel on the four morsemen of the apocalypse

- Mike KB3EIA -


Mike, "Avenging Angel" is mine. bb


Oops, sorry about that Brian. I suspect there will be a few missed
attributes in the list.



Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea into the
more dumberest "Angle".

And you forgot "Brownshirts", "Elitists", "Dr Strangelove" and
"Jimmie".

Oh...and let's not forget "Coslonaut".

If Lennie were to spend as much time on Amateur Radio as he does
dissing Radio Amateurs, he'd get the recognition he THINKS he deserves
now...But, we all know THAT won't happen...!


Doesn't appear to like too many Hams, does he?

- Mikie KB3EIA -


K4YZ February 1st 05 07:43 AM


Len Anderson wrote:

Brian, those tongue-in-cheek satiric appelations were justly

earned
by all parties.


No one in this group "earned" being insulted by a pathological liar
like you, Lennie.

Rest of self-appreciating anti-Amateur Radio hatred snipped.

- 30 -


Cute, Lennie, but it still doesn't amke you an "author".


Thanks


K4YZ February 1st 05 08:02 AM


Mike Coslo wrote:

If Lennie were to spend as much time on Amateur Radio as he does
dissing Radio Amateurs, he'd get the recognition he THINKS he

deserves
now...But, we all know THAT won't happen...!


Doesn't appear to like too many Hams, does he?


If you'll check out his latest rant in this thread, you'll see
that Lennie doesn't like much of anyone.

He has something ugly to say about each of us... He comes into an
Amateur Radio forum, is ugly to and dishonest in his representations of
Amateurs, then wonders why no one wants to be his pal.
73

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ February 1st 05 08:05 AM


Mike Coslo wrote:

If Lennie were to spend as much time on Amateur Radio as he does
dissing Radio Amateurs, he'd get the recognition he THINKS he

deserves
now...But, we all know THAT won't happen...!


Doesn't appear to like too many Hams, does he?


If you'll check out his latest rant in this thread, you'll see
that Lennie doesn't like much of anyone.

He has something ugly to say about each of us... He comes into an
Amateur Radio forum, is ugly to and dishonest in his representations of
Amateurs, then wonders why no one wants to be his pal.
73

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ February 1st 05 08:05 AM


Mike Coslo wrote:

If Lennie were to spend as much time on Amateur Radio as he does
dissing Radio Amateurs, he'd get the recognition he THINKS he

deserves
now...But, we all know THAT won't happen...!


Doesn't appear to like too many Hams, does he?


If you'll check out his latest rant in this thread, you'll see
that Lennie doesn't like much of anyone.

He has something ugly to say about each of us... He comes into an
Amateur Radio forum, is ugly to and dishonest in his representations of
Amateurs, then wonders why no one wants to be his pal.
73

Steve, K4YZ


bb February 3rd 05 01:03 AM


K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea into

the
more dumberest "Angle".


Oh, I missed that. Looks like he he's added a new twist and made

it
his own. Probably patentable. Awesome.


Brian, I know that for what ever reason...maybe it's just to root
for the underdog, you've "sided" with Lennie.

But myself and a dozen other people have been TRYING to tell you
that Lennie is all-about making OTHER people's work HIS own...That's
partly why Lennie was disinvited from working in Pennsylvania, and
partly why you won't find his name as "author" in any professional
"radio"
journals...At least not since 1980.

Lennie can rant and rave about "PCTA Extras" or "Mighty Morsemen"
all he wants, but his circumstances are his OWN doing, and part of

that
"doing" was trying to get by on the works of others.
And that now includes you.

73

Steve, K4YZ


But, but, but...

I've never written for a professional radio journal, so Len can hardly
ride my coattails.


Arnie Macy February 3rd 05 05:17 AM


"Mike Coslo" wrote in part ...

"In another post, I went back through a few weeks messages to find the cute
little nicknames that LenOver21 makes up for people. I was pretty impressed
with the volume, but I know I didn't get them all. I came up with 21
nicknames. In the interest of not leaving anyone out who may have received
one of his monikers, let's add to the list he"

_________________________________________________

Hey Mike,

Lenwayoverthehill21 used to call me all sorts of things from brownshirt to
Herr Inspector. Rather humorous, really. I think he blocked me, but just
in case he is "listening", I was just promoted again. And yes, I just love
my blackberry :-))

KT4ST



K4YZ February 3rd 05 12:30 PM


bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses

the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea

into
the
more dumberest "Angle".

Oh, I missed that. Looks like he he's added a new twist and made

it
his own. Probably patentable. Awesome.


Brian, I know that for what ever reason...maybe it's just to root
for the underdog, you've "sided" with Lennie.

But myself and a dozen other people have been TRYING to tell you
that Lennie is all-about making OTHER people's work HIS

own...That's
partly why Lennie was disinvited from working in Pennsylvania, and
partly why you won't find his name as "author" in any professional
"radio"
journals...At least not since 1980.

Lennie can rant and rave about "PCTA Extras" or "Mighty Morsemen"
all he wants, but his circumstances are his OWN doing, and part of

that
"doing" was trying to get by on the works of others.
And that now includes you.

73

Steve, K4YZ


But, but, but...

I've never written for a professional radio journal, so Len can

hardly
ride my coattails.


Let's repeat the paragraph in question, Brian, and then YOU can
tell ME what YOUR lack of being published in ANY forum has to do with
it...

QUOTE:

But myself and a dozen other people have been TRYING to tell you
that Lennie is all-about making OTHER people's work HIS

own...That's
partly why Lennie was disinvited from working in Pennsylvania, and
partly why you won't find his name as "author" in any professional
"radio"
journals...At least not since 1980.


UNQUOTE

The statement said that Lennie has a history of taking other
people's work. He proved it in his warping of your "endearment". He
didn't even give you, his one and only NG "buddy", credit for the work.

So....What does YOUR lack of publishing credits have to do with
Lennie's irresponsible and unprofessional behaviour.

73

Steve, K4YZ


Dave Heil February 3rd 05 04:35 PM

Len Anderson wrote:

In article .com, "bb"
writes:

Oops, sorry about that Brian. I suspect there will be a few missed
attributes in the list.

Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea into the
more dumberest "Angle".


Oh, I missed that. Looks like he he's added a new twist and made it
his own. Probably patentable. Awesome.


Brian, those tongue-in-cheek satiric appelations were justly earned
by all parties. :-)


....by the official arbiter of such things--Leonard H. Anderson, a
non-radio amateur.

Actually, "Avenging Angle" applies to nearly all PCTA extras.


Actually, it doesn't.

All are self-righeously Right even if they aren't in a triangle of being oh-so-superior to NCTAs.


Actually, they aren't. I'm sure it seems that way to an outsider with
an ax to grind.

All who don't worship at the Church of
St. Hiram are, to them, heretics and infidels, unworthy of surviving
on the same planet as the PCTA. They are all Right Angles but
perpendicular to the plane of existance of reality of today.


Actually, there is no "Church of St. Hiram". You may continue to live
on the planet but you aren't involved in amateur radio.

Much earlier in here I'd made mention of one Elfren Saldivar (hope
name is correct), the "Angle of Death" at Glendale Memorial
Hospital in this area. He was a nurse who offed a bunch of
elderly patients "to ease their suffering." Lots of them. Registered
nurse with certificates and everything... Sound familiar? :-)


No, it doesn't sound familiar to anyone here. We don't have a nurse who
has killed any patients.

So...we've got the "forever marine" spending the weekend shouting
epithets using pejoratives not in his ethnic experience, always
being the "avenger" for the "service."


"We've got"? Do you have a Vibroplex in your pocket?

We've got the prissy never-
served busy acting like Nun of the Above, rapping the knuckles of
any who don't agree with him (or her).


Shouldn't that be "message knuckles"?

We've got the "forever ham"
of four decades hamming it up into great "superiority" but who
never learned a thing about diplomacy in the State Department
"foreign service."


I've not been a ham forever. I've been a ham for over four decades and
I'm not quite 56. If I'd been a ham for two days, I'd be your superior
in amateur radio. You aren't a radio amateur. I learned plenty about
diplomacy in the Foreign Service, not "foreign service" though that was
not my area of expertise. Nothing compels me to suffer rude churls.
Finally, it is not the "State Department 'foreign service'" but the
Foreign Service of the United States. Don't you get anything right?

We've got the "university lecturer" who survives
the terrible storms that regularly destroy everything in Hawaii
except the ham rigs and assists other hams in regards to USPS
addresses.


Why is "university lecturer" in quotes, Leonard? Are you being forced
by your nature to live up to the N2EY profile?

We have the coslonaut who wanted hearty
congratulations for a feat he hasn't yet begun but was upset when
he didn't get it.


Aren't you stretching the truth more than a little? Weren't you, in
fact, one who told him that his proposed feat couldn't be done? Didn't
you launch into a lengthy diatribe only to have to eat your words when
evidence was presented which contradicted your claims?

A nice jolly group of down-lookers in their own
PCTA "blog" happily giving each other high-fives for being so
intrinisically superior to all others.


This isn't a blog, Leonard and no one here has suggested that he is
superior to all others.

The major "superiority" attribute
is cussing out "civilians" not possessing the right ham hobby
papers to show to their raddio kopp schutzstaffel.


It isn't that you don't have the right papers, Len. It is that you have
no credentials in amateur radio. You aren't a part of amateur radio.
You play no role in amateur radio. You aren't involved in amateur
radio.
Oh yeah, Godwin invoked.

They can flog each other in this blog for all I care. [some do]


This isn't a blog and you must certainly care. You've shown up here for
a long, long time.


All their little names are familiar to all who look into this blog.


This isn't a blog and you've generated more "little names" than everyone
else here combined.

[it long since dropped out as a discussion place, became a chat
room reserved for their highnesses, a group blog] They've
worked hard at earning all those names and should be proud of
them. :-)


This isn't a chat room and it isn't a blog. :-)

Godwin's observation as the catalyst of their being compared to
the national socialist party of 1930s Germany applies in the truest
form. They gas back and forth so much in the group blog that
they need their own chambers. [again deserved by them]


Well, there you have it.

As to amateur radio policy, only the newsgroup name has any
relevation to "ham radio." They ham it up, not on radio, not on
any "airwaves," only on computers, saved from direct physical
harm through time and distance by insulting all who don't agree
with them. Hear them roar! :-)


Nope, you have it wrong again. The rest of us may discuss amateur radio
policy here or on the amateur bands. You may not. The rest of us may
discuss anything on the amateur bands. You may not. By the way, did
you mean that if we were in the room with you, we'd be in danger of
direct physical harm? Did you plan to bore us to death?

Dave K8MN

Michael Coslo February 3rd 05 09:26 PM

Dave Heil wrote:
Len Anderson wrote:

In article .com, "bb"
writes:


Oops, sorry about that Brian. I suspect there will be a few missed
attributes in the list.

Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea into the
more dumberest "Angle".

Oh, I missed that. Looks like he he's added a new twist and made it
his own. Probably patentable. Awesome.


Brian, those tongue-in-cheek satiric appelations were justly earned
by all parties. :-)



...by the official arbiter of such things--Leonard H. Anderson, a
non-radio amateur.


Actually, "Avenging Angle" applies to nearly all PCTA extras.



Actually, it doesn't.


All are self-righeously Right even if they aren't in a triangle of being oh-so-superior to NCTAs.



Actually, they aren't. I'm sure it seems that way to an outsider with
an ax to grind.


All who don't worship at the Church of
St. Hiram are, to them, heretics and infidels, unworthy of surviving
on the same planet as the PCTA. They are all Right Angles but
perpendicular to the plane of existance of reality of today.



Actually, there is no "Church of St. Hiram". You may continue to live
on the planet but you aren't involved in amateur radio.


Much earlier in here I'd made mention of one Elfren Saldivar (hope
name is correct), the "Angle of Death" at Glendale Memorial
Hospital in this area. He was a nurse who offed a bunch of
elderly patients "to ease their suffering." Lots of them. Registered
nurse with certificates and everything... Sound familiar? :-)



No, it doesn't sound familiar to anyone here. We don't have a nurse who
has killed any patients.


So...we've got the "forever marine" spending the weekend shouting
epithets using pejoratives not in his ethnic experience, always
being the "avenger" for the "service."



"We've got"? Do you have a Vibroplex in your pocket?


We've got the prissy never-
served busy acting like Nun of the Above, rapping the knuckles of
any who don't agree with him (or her).



Shouldn't that be "message knuckles"?


We've got the "forever ham"
of four decades hamming it up into great "superiority" but who
never learned a thing about diplomacy in the State Department
"foreign service."



I've not been a ham forever. I've been a ham for over four decades and
I'm not quite 56. If I'd been a ham for two days, I'd be your superior
in amateur radio. You aren't a radio amateur. I learned plenty about
diplomacy in the Foreign Service, not "foreign service" though that was
not my area of expertise. Nothing compels me to suffer rude churls.
Finally, it is not the "State Department 'foreign service'" but the
Foreign Service of the United States. Don't you get anything right?


We've got the "university lecturer" who survives
the terrible storms that regularly destroy everything in Hawaii
except the ham rigs and assists other hams in regards to USPS
addresses.



Why is "university lecturer" in quotes, Leonard? Are you being forced
by your nature to live up to the N2EY profile?


We have the coslonaut who wanted hearty
congratulations for a feat he hasn't yet begun but was upset when
he didn't get it.



Aren't you stretching the truth more than a little? Weren't you, in
fact, one who told him that his proposed feat couldn't be done? Didn't
you launch into a lengthy diatribe only to have to eat your words when
evidence was presented which contradicted your claims?


Since we're on the subject, who on earth would think I was looking for
congratulations on something I hadn't done? That's weird. My ill fated
attempt to garner a few ideas in the group was simply that.

It was a failure in that respect. But as in all things, there is good to
be taken away from it. Just a little personal practice in dealing with
the obtuse or deliberately antagonistic. Those involved may choose which
one they want to be.

And for those who think it was some kind of stupidity to expect
anything other than obtuseness or deliberate antagonism, the chance was
offered to act otherwise. That a person would choose that puts them in
league with the bottom dwellers of the group.

Don't like it? Too bad, deal with it.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Len Anderson February 3rd 05 10:09 PM

In article , Dave Heil Kolonel Klunk uff
das uber-amateur staffel put on his newly cleaned uniform and polished
boots, adjusted his monocle and swacked the podium with his riding
crop to silence all conversation, get attention to bark out daily orders:

Nope, you have it wrong again. The rest of us may discuss amateur radio
policy here or on the amateur bands. You may not.


* ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG *

Effective immediately, ALL persons without a valid amateur radio
licenses are FORBIDDEN to discuss, write, or even think about
amateur radio subjects!

Violators will be arrested, imprisoned, convicted of Crimes Against
the State (as soon as the judges finish their DX contacts with
illegal Frenchmen), and shot.

There is NO appeal.

The rest of us may
discuss anything on the amateur bands. You may not.


repeat of standing orders effective immediately

By the way, did
you mean that if we were in the room with you, we'd be in danger of
direct physical harm?


...only from all the PCTA extras shooting themselves in the foot
with their arrogant, dictatorial manner! :-)

All sorts of small-caliber projectiles have been ricocheting all over
and a distinct danger to all in that "room." :-)

Did you plan to bore us to death?


No, Kolonel Klunk, you do that SO well. Far be it for me to try and
upstage das Grate, Full Dead. :-)

RIP


K4YZ February 4th 05 11:44 AM


Len Anderson wrote:
In article , Dave Heil Kolonel

Klunk uff
das uber-amateur staffel put on his newly cleaned uniform and

polished
boots, adjusted his monocle and swacked the podium with his riding
crop to silence all conversation, get attention to bark out daily

orders:

Yet more assinine, childish analogies to the Nazis.

Just like we've been saying all along.

Nope, you have it wrong again. The rest of us may discuss amateur

radio
policy here or on the amateur bands. You may not.


* ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG *

Effective immediately, ALL persons without a valid amateur radio
licenses are FORBIDDEN to discuss, write, or even think about
amateur radio subjects!


ACHTUNG ACHTUNG ACHTUNG

Effective since the creation of the FRC and the institution of
Amateur Radio licensing, it has been forbidden for unlicensed persons
to use the Amateur Bands.

Another Regulatory matter you skipped over, Lennie.

What's with you, Your Scumminess? Didn't they teach you radio
rules at professional radio school?

Violators will be arrested, imprisoned, convicted of Crimes

Against
the State (as soon as the judges finish their DX contacts with
illegal Frenchmen), and shot.


Not shot, however the FCC has demonstrated a willingness to seek
the incarcertaion of those who violate their rules.

Your age might get you off of jail time, but your income, alleged
summer home, etc, will ensure that the price of the NAL sticks. Too
many assets to claim poverty.

There is NO appeal.


Sure there is...even for the UNappealing such as yourself.

The rest of us may
discuss anything on the amateur bands. You may not.


repeat of standing orders effective immediately


Repeat of reminder of rules that those unlicensed commissioners
you are always ballyhooing about have enacted and enforce.

Those rules apply even to the UNlicensed (alleged) professionals
such as yourself.

By the way, did
you mean that if we were in the room with you, we'd be in danger of
direct physical harm?


...only from all the PCTA extras shooting themselves in the foot
with their arrogant, dictatorial manner!


Not from THIS "PCTA extra". If I dicharge a firearm, I can
promise one and all that whatever I am aiming at will get hit WHERE I
am aiming at.

The first time.

All sorts of small-caliber projectiles have been ricocheting all

over
and a distinct danger to all in that "room."


What you "fire" doesn't "ricochet", Lennie...more like "SPLAT".

Malodorous, too.

Did you plan to bore us to death?


No, Kolonel Klunk, you do that SO well. Far be it for me to try

and
upstage das Grate, Full Dead.


Nope...That's your schtick, Lennie.

RIP


Oh Lennie! You KNEW how long I've been waiting to see "RIP" over
your name! Thanks!

Steve, K4YZ


Dave Heil February 5th 05 05:56 AM

Len "Foghorn Lenhorn" Anderson, self-anointed but non-appointed advocate
for something or other, having nothing better to do wrote:

In article , Dave Heil Kolonel Klunk uff
das uber-amateur staffel put on his newly cleaned uniform and polished
boots, adjusted his monocle and swacked the podium with his riding
crop to silence all conversation, get attention to bark out daily orders:

Nope, you have it wrong again. The rest of us may discuss amateur radio
policy here or on the amateur bands. You may not.


* ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG *


Effective immediately, ALL persons without a valid amateur radio
licenses are FORBIDDEN to discuss, write, or even think about
amateur radio subjects!


Violators will be arrested, imprisoned, convicted of Crimes Against
the State (as soon as the judges finish their DX contacts with
illegal Frenchmen), and shot.


There is NO appeal.


You'll have to content yourself with carrying out your self-anointed
advocacy for something or other here, Leonard. Your lack of an amateur
radio license prevents you from doing it on the ham bands. You do as
you can, the rest of us will do as we like.

The rest of us may
discuss anything on the amateur bands. You may not.


repeat of standing orders effective immediately


Face it, Leonard, this is your only forum and nobody is paying your
views on the regulation of amateur radio much credence here. Did you
notice the lack of response from those lurkers you wrote of earlier?

By the way, did
you mean that if we were in the room with you, we'd be in danger of
direct physical harm?


...only from all the PCTA extras shooting themselves in the foot
with their arrogant, dictatorial manner! :-)


That's funny. When you wrote, "They ham it up, not on radio, not on
any 'airwaves,' only on computers, saved from direct physical
harm through time and distance by insulting all who don't agree
with them." it didn't seem to refer to PCTA Extras doing anything to
each other.

All sorts of small-caliber projectiles have been ricocheting all over
and a distinct danger to all in that "room." :-)


What room? :-) Do you fancy yourself a large caliber guy? :-)

Did you plan to bore us to death?


No, Kolonel Klunk, you do that SO well. Far be it for me to try and
upstage das Grate, Full Dead. :-)


:-) :-) That doesn't make sense, Leonard. How can I be "saved in time
and distance from direct physical harm" from myself? :-) :-)

Enough of that. We still don't have a nurse who has killed patients.

The Marine among us seems to have a pretty solid understanding of how to
use the word "putz".

Our "university lecturer" is actually a university lecturer.

Jim isn't female nor a nun. You come off as being the prissy one.

I've not been a ham forever though I'm certain that more than forty
years sounds like a long time to one who has never obtained an amateur
radio license.

My specialty in the Foreign Service was communications, not diplomacy.
If it is diplomacy you want, drop Dr. Rice a line. I should warn you
though that she doesn't seem the type to put up with your foolish little
old man routine either.

Mike Coslo wrote of sending a helium-filled balloon to 100,000 feet. No
wishes for congratulations on a before or after basis were written by
him. You did, however, tell him that it couldn't be done. That
statement
really came back to bite you in the can. You get quite a number of
things wrong.

You have no right to suggest that radio amateurs, posting in an amateur
radio newsgroup should be spending their time on the ham bands. Let me
explain it to you Sparkie:

newsgroup amateur radio stake in
access access amateur radio

Leonard Anderson x

Radio Amateurs x x x



Have a nice day.

Dave K8MN

bb February 5th 05 04:29 PM


K4YZ wrote:

The statement said that Lennie has a history of taking other
people's work. He proved it in his warping of your "endearment". He
didn't even give you, his one and only NG "buddy", credit for the

work.

That single act will cause a rift between Len and me that can never be
healed.

So....What does YOUR lack of publishing credits have to do with
Lennie's irresponsible and unprofessional behaviour.


Everything. Had I been published in a professional journal, can you be
sure that he would have stolen my work?


Len Anderson February 5th 05 07:38 PM

In article .com, "bb"
writes:

K4YZ wrote:

The statement said that Lennie has a history of taking other
people's work. He proved it in his warping of your "endearment". He
didn't even give you, his one and only NG "buddy", credit for the work.


That single act will cause a rift between Len and me that can never be
healed.


Poor Stebie da Avenging Angle sees only the WRONG in his
opponents. Tsk.


So....What does YOUR lack of publishing credits have to do with
Lennie's irresponsible and unprofessional behaviour.


Everything. Had I been published in a professional journal, can you be
sure that he would have stolen my work?


Brian, you have to realize that any printed article to Stebie is new
to him, therefore everything he reads is a "first principles" topic.
He imagines all those articles are stand-alone and cannot ever be
commented upon...therefore the slightest act of just mentioning
them are what he considers plagiarism. :-)

Coupled with his mindset of "all opponents do wrong in anything,"
he is constantly in outrage that opponents exist.

==========

In printed publications sold all over the USA and worldwide, many
are involved in viewing and checking any submitted work. Every
publisher is subject to copyright laws and prosecution thereof if
court action is taken. Publishers don't want that. Authors don't
want that.

Stebie wants to feed on his perceived "wrongness" of fair-use
mentions or references of other works. That's just ignorance on
his part (or his sense of right/wrong is so warped by hatred of
opponents that he cannot tell which is which)...since fair-use
mentions and references have long been a part of published papers
and articles. [at least over the last century] As to what constitutes
fair-use, that is covered in Copyright Law under Title 17, United
States Code. So is references and mentions of other published
works.

For periodicals, the common convention is for publishers to
request "first rights" as part of compensation of authors. That
means the publishers have "first dibs" on publishing that work and
can reprint that work as many times as they wish. Authors can
publish or get published that same work once the publisher-
puchaser has printed it the first time. There are many variations
on the author compensation and some may include sole
proprietorship of an author's work. [pecuniary compensation falls
under "work for hire" rules by the IRS and is therefore taxable
income...mentioned as a sidelight] Some authors can cut a deal
with publishers so that authors have free rein on republishing, but
that is rare.

What most readers overlook is that a published work can be changed
in many ways. Schematics can be redrawn, diagrams can be done
differently, different accompanying photographs used, and text rewritten.
That changes the nature of the "work." Determination of whether such
work is a "copy" of the original published (and copyrighted) is a very
long, studious, and arduous proceeding (not to mention expensive)
which is hardly ever done. It isn't worthwhile unless it involves millions
of dollars.

The ARRL gets away with a benign sort of plagiarism (but isn't such,
per se) by getting ALL rights to publishing (usually) for article in their
periodicals. They do reprint periodical articles in changed form in
the Handbook and other book-form publications...and the original
author gets NO money under that compensation form...and usually
is uncredited for the work in the ARRL's republishing. That's not a
"slam" at the League but is standard practice by them and has been
so for years. It's business...and worthwhile to them...but seldom so
to the authors.

Do you think Hartley, Pierce, or Colpitts (or their estates) get anything
for all the repeated articles on the whichness of the what in oscillators?
Nothing. Nada. Zip. Yet the articles pop up now and then and are
found in all kinds of electronics texts. Anyone can mention those
names, draw schematics for them, make them, measure them and
it is NOT "plagiarism" to do so...unless such work is a direct copy
of a previously-published article on same.

In tutorial articles, basic circuits can be explained in a number of
ways. Tutorials are far from "first principles" kind of subject and are
done for the benefit of readers who wish to further their knowledge
of a particular subject. Tutorial articles aren't plagiarism of any sort
unless they are an obvious copy of something already published.
Each presentation in a tutorial, the explanations, are unique. The
uniqueness can be copyrighted.

That's the way part of publishing works and it's been that way for
some time. Some hatred-clouded "avengers" want to redefine all
rules on uniqueness or writing skill and say their hate-subject is
a plagiarist. No proof. Just a hollered pejorative by someone who
can't think straight in his rage.




Len Anderson February 5th 05 07:38 PM

In article .com, "K4YZ"
writes:

Len Anderson wrote:
In article , Dave Heil Kolonel Klunk uff
das uber-amateur staffel put on his newly cleaned uniform and polished
boots, adjusted his monocle and swacked the podium with his riding
crop to silence all conversation, get attention to bark out daily orders:


Yet more assinine, childish analogies to the Nazis.

Just like we've been saying all along.

Nope, you have it wrong again. The rest of us may discuss amateur radio
policy here or on the amateur bands. You may not.


* ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG *

Effective immediately, ALL persons without a valid amateur radio
licenses are FORBIDDEN to discuss, write, or even think about
amateur radio subjects!


ACHTUNG ACHTUNG ACHTUNG

Effective since the creation of the FRC and the institution of
Amateur Radio licensing, it has been forbidden for unlicensed persons
to use the Amateur Bands.

Another Regulatory matter you skipped over, Lennie.


Sorry, little feldwebel, but notice that das Kolonel done said "here"
and that can only mean the newsgroup.

No amateur license is needed to access this here newsgroup. :-)

What's with you, Your Scumminess? Didn't they teach you radio
rules at professional radio school?


What "professional radio school?" :-)

Tsk, tsk, not all amateur bands are allocated now or in the past
to be exclusively for amateurs. :-)


Your age might get you off of jail time, but your income, alleged
summer home, etc, will ensure that the price of the NAL sticks. Too
many assets to claim poverty.


So...you are still under the impression that this newsgroup is
elite, exclusive, and can only be accessed by licensed amateurs?

I'm not impressed.

Those rules apply even to the UNlicensed (alleged) professionals
such as yourself.


Tsk, I have no allegiances with the UN. And, I am licensed as
well as a professional in electronics-radio. TS, boobie.


...only from all the PCTA extras shooting themselves in the foot
with their arrogant, dictatorial manner!


Not from THIS "PCTA extra". If I dicharge a firearm, I can
promise one and all that whatever I am aiming at will get hit WHERE I
am aiming at.

The first time.


Poor nursie. Must be a paraplegic many times over by now.

Hope you got a good buy on a wheelchair...


Oh Lennie! You KNEW how long I've been waiting to see "RIP" over
your name! Thanks!


Tsk, Tsk, TSK! A "healthcare professional" always wishing an
opponent will die! Not a healthy attitude.

You must be a riot around those in ICU, running around and pinching
the I-V tubes and canulas of all those who don't smile at you...

We'll just put you in the same category as Elfren Saldivar the 2nd.




Len Anderson February 6th 05 05:16 AM

In article .com, "bb"
writes:

K4YZ wrote:

The statement said that Lennie has a history of taking other
people's work. He proved it in his warping of your "endearment". He
didn't even give you, his one and only NG "buddy", credit for the work.


That single act will cause a rift between Len and me that can never be
healed.


Poor Stebie da Avenging Angle sees only the WRONG in his
opponents. Tsk.


So....What does YOUR lack of publishing credits have to do with
Lennie's irresponsible and unprofessional behaviour.


Everything. Had I been published in a professional journal, can you be
sure that he would have stolen my work?


Brian, you have to realize that any printed article to Stebie is new
to him, therefore everything he reads is a "first principles" topic.
He imagines all those articles are stand-alone and cannot ever be
commented upon...therefore the slightest act of just mentioning
them are what he considers plagiarism. :-)

Coupled with his mindset of "all opponents do wrong in anything,"
he is constantly in outrage that opponents exist.

==========

In printed publications sold all over the USA and worldwide, many
are involved in viewing and checking any submitted work. Every
publisher is subject to copyright laws and prosecution thereof if
court action is taken. Publishers don't want that. Authors don't
want that.

Stebie wants to feed on his perceived "wrongness" of fair-use
mentions or references of other works. That's just ignorance on
his part (or his sense of right/wrong is so warped by hatred of
opponents that he cannot tell which is which)...since fair-use
mentions and references have long been a part of published papers
and articles. [at least over the last century] As to what constitutes
fair-use, that is covered in Copyright Law under Title 17, United
States Code. So is references and mentions of other published
works.

For periodicals, the common convention is for publishers to
request "first rights" as part of compensation of authors. That
means the publishers have "first dibs" on publishing that work and
can reprint that work as many times as they wish. Authors can
publish or get published that same work once the publisher-
puchaser has printed it the first time. There are many variations
on the author compensation and some may include sole
proprietorship of an author's work. [pecuniary compensation falls
under "work for hire" rules by the IRS and is therefore taxable
income...mentioned as a sidelight] Some authors can cut a deal
with publishers so that authors have free rein on republishing, but
that is rare.

What most readers overlook is that a published work can be changed
in many ways. Schematics can be redrawn, diagrams can be done
differently, different accompanying photographs used, and text rewritten.
That changes the nature of the "work." Determination of whether such
work is a "copy" of the original published (and copyrighted) is a very
long, studious, and arduous proceeding (not to mention expensive)
which is hardly ever done. It isn't worthwhile unless it involves millions
of dollars.

The ARRL gets away with a benign sort of plagiarism (but isn't such,
per se) by getting ALL rights to publishing (usually) for article in their
periodicals. They do reprint periodical articles in changed form in
the Handbook and other book-form publications...and the original
author gets NO money under that compensation form...and usually
is uncredited for the work in the ARRL's republishing. That's not a
"slam" at the League but is standard practice by them and has been
so for years. It's business...and worthwhile to them...but seldom so
to the authors.

Do you think Hartley, Pierce, or Colpitts (or their estates) get anything
for all the repeated articles on the whichness of the what in oscillators?
Nothing. Nada. Zip. Yet the articles pop up now and then and are
found in all kinds of electronics texts. Anyone can mention those
names, draw schematics for them, make them, measure them and
it is NOT "plagiarism" to do so...unless such work is a direct copy
of a previously-published article on same.

In tutorial articles, basic circuits can be explained in a number of
ways. Tutorials are far from "first principles" kind of subject and are
done for the benefit of readers who wish to further their knowledge
of a particular subject. Tutorial articles aren't plagiarism of any sort
unless they are an obvious copy of something already published.
Each presentation in a tutorial, the explanations, are unique. The
uniqueness can be copyrighted.

That's the way part of publishing works and it's been that way for
some time. Some hatred-clouded "avengers" want to redefine all
rules on uniqueness or writing skill and say their hate-subject is
a plagiarist. No proof. Just a hollered pejorative by someone who
can't think straight in his rage.




K4YZ February 6th 05 11:17 AM


Len Anderson wrote:

Oh Lennie! You KNEW how long I've been waiting to see "RIP"

over
your name! Thanks!


Tsk, Tsk, TSK! A "healthcare professional" always wishing an
opponent will die! Not a healthy attitude.


Let's get something straight, Lennie.

We're NOT "opponents". That would suggest that we were mutual
combatants, equal to the task of said combat.

You are not remotely qualified to engage me on ANY aspect of any
subject except electronics theory, and I've already "given" you that.
But that's where your knowledge and "experience" stop. You've been
disproven on every other rant you've cared to partake in. You look
foolish.

Perhaps YOU fancy yourself an "opponent", but that is all you will
ever do.

You're a liar. You're deceitful. You're a loser.

Sucks to be you.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ February 6th 05 02:27 PM


Len Anderson wrote:
In article .com,

"K4YZ"
writes:

Len Anderson wrote:
In article , Dave Heil Kolonel

Klunk uff
das uber-amateur staffel put on his newly cleaned uniform and

polished
boots, adjusted his monocle and swacked the podium with his riding
crop to silence all conversation, get attention to bark out daily

orders:

Yet more assinine, childish analogies to the Nazis.

Just like we've been saying all along.

Nope, you have it wrong again. The rest of us may discuss

amateur radio
policy here or on the amateur bands. You may not.

* ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG *

Effective immediately, ALL persons without a valid amateur

radio
licenses are FORBIDDEN to discuss, write, or even think about
amateur radio subjects!


ACHTUNG ACHTUNG ACHTUNG

Effective since the creation of the FRC and the institution of
Amateur Radio licensing, it has been forbidden for unlicensed

persons
to use the Amateur Bands.

Another Regulatory matter you skipped over, Lennie.


Sorry, little feldwebel, but notice that das Kolonel done said

"here"
and that can only mean the newsgroup.

No amateur license is needed to access this here newsgroup.


Nope.

But one sure is necessary to be an active Amateur Radio operator,
hence being able to acquire PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE in BEING an Amateur.

You've aggressively avoided getting a license, yet your lack of
experience routinely leaves you with your wrinkled buns in the air for
all to see.

What's with you, Your Scumminess? Didn't they teach you radio
rules at professional radio school?


What "professional radio school?"


That's my point, Lennie. You don't have the training.

Tsk, tsk, not all amateur bands are allocated now or in the past
to be exclusively for amateurs.


That's not the issue now, is it, Lennie?

The issue is your lack of qualifcations to wield an informed
opinion on Amatuer Radio matters.

Your age might get you off of jail time, but your income,

alleged
summer home, etc, will ensure that the price of the NAL sticks. Too
many assets to claim poverty.


So...you are still under the impression that this newsgroup is
elite, exclusive, and can only be accessed by licensed amateurs?


We weren't talking about "only" the newsgroup.

Maybe your pretend shrink wife is impressed with your shuffling,
but we know better.

I'm not impressed.


And you're not very impressive, either.

Big talk. No facts. Frequent errors.

Those rules apply even to the UNlicensed (alleged)

professionals
such as yourself.


Tsk, I have no allegiances with the UN. And, I am licensed as
well as a professional in electronics-radio. TS, boobie.


You are not a licensed Amateur. That is a fact.

And I doubt you have ANY "allegiances" to anyone but you, Lennie.

And that incudes the Veterans that you shamefully humiliate with
your pitiful personal use of thier sacrifices for YOUR glorification.

...only from all the PCTA extras shooting themselves in the

foot
with their arrogant, dictatorial manner!


Not from THIS "PCTA extra". If I dicharge a firearm, I can
promise one and all that whatever I am aiming at will get hit WHERE

I
am aiming at.

The first time.


Poor nursie. Must be a paraplegic many times over by now.

Hope you got a good buy on a wheelchair...


The only wheelchair I have ever or will ever have a need for was
my daughters.

She's gone.

I can get one for YOU though. Cheap.

Steve, K4YZ



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