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Anon March 11th 05 04:16 PM

Radio Ham Arrested
 
Perhaps this explains why so many NG and chat room users employ an alias

Anon by necessity


"Someone wrote
"Radio ham arrested over harassment on Internet

GAZETTE & HERALD: RADIO ham [named in the link below] has been
arrested in connection with the harassment of an Internet chat room
user. "

http://tinyurl.com/4catk





whoever March 11th 05 08:29 PM



Anon wrote:

Perhaps this explains why so many NG and chat room users employ an alias

Anon by necessity


"Someone wrote

"Radio ham arrested over harassment on Internet

GAZETTE & HERALD: RADIO ham [named in the link below] has been
arrested in connection with the harassment of an Internet chat room
user. "

http://tinyurl.com/4catk



This was in AUSTRALIA!
Mel K8MKF



KØHB March 11th 05 10:09 PM


Anon wrote:

Anon by necessity


More like "chicken**** coward by choice"


K4YZ March 12th 05 08:26 AM


whoever wrote:
Anon wrote:

Perhaps this explains why so many NG and chat room users employ an

alias

Anon by necessity


"Someone wrote

"Radio ham arrested over harassment on Internet

GAZETTE & HERALD: RADIO ham [named in the link below] has been
arrested in connection with the harassment of an Internet chat room
user. "

http://tinyurl.com/4catk



This was in AUSTRALIA!


No, it wasn't. It was in England.

And people ususally don't just "harrass" someone without some
provocation. I doubt the alleged assailant was completely at fault.

Steve, K4YZ


Chris March 12th 05 09:29 PM

On 11 Mar 2005 14:09:42 -0800, KØHB babbled:

More like "chicken**** coward by choice"


You obviously are totally ignorant of the recommendations for safe
Internet usage published by government organizations such as
www.ftc.gov. The U.S. FTC recommends against giving out personal
information anywhere on the Internet or on Usenet, and instead
suggests the use of handles or pseudonyms. It also suggests that
people go to some lengths to keep their names private even in such
formerly-public data bases such as domain name registrar "whois"
records. That's why major registrars now offer private registration.

You can live in your daddy's world, but the rest of us are all too
familiar with the spammers, identity thieves, stalkers, and scam
artists who now make unscrupulous use of Internet information.

Anyone who blindly publishes his or her personal information on the
net is more like a clueless victim looking for a place to be mugged.

Go ahead: Keep on being a stupid ****. But don't try to promote your
stupidity to the rest of us.

Mike Coslo March 12th 05 09:39 PM

Chris wrote:

On 11 Mar 2005 14:09:42 -0800, KØHB babbled:

More like "chicken**** coward by choice"



You obviously are totally ignorant of the recommendations for safe
Internet usage published by government organizations such as
www.ftc.gov. The U.S. FTC recommends against giving out personal
information anywhere on the Internet or on Usenet, and instead
suggests the use of handles or pseudonyms. It also suggests that
people go to some lengths to keep their names private even in such
formerly-public data bases such as domain name registrar "whois"
records. That's why major registrars now offer private registration.

You can live in your daddy's world, but the rest of us are all too
familiar with the spammers, identity thieves, stalkers, and scam
artists who now make unscrupulous use of Internet information.

Anyone who blindly publishes his or her personal information on the
net is more like a clueless victim looking for a place to be mugged.

Go ahead: Keep on being a stupid ****. But don't try to promote your
stupidity to the rest of us.


Fascinating post, Chris, If you think that anything that you can do is
giving you ANY protection while you are on the internet.........

Well, it is *fascinating* that you think that WE are stupid! 8^)

Safety on the internet means avoidance of it.

-It's *that* simple-

- Mike KB3EIA -


Michael Black March 12th 05 09:48 PM


"Chris" ) writes:
On 11 Mar 2005 14:09:42 -0800, KØHB babbled:

More like "chicken**** coward by choice"


You obviously are totally ignorant of the recommendations for safe
Internet usage published by government organizations such as
www.ftc.gov. The U.S. FTC recommends against giving out personal
information anywhere on the Internet or on Usenet, and instead
suggests the use of handles or pseudonyms. It also suggests that
people go to some lengths to keep their names private even in such
formerly-public data bases such as domain name registrar "whois"
records. That's why major registrars now offer private registration.

So tell us how the internet is different form the "real world"?

Hams have used their real names for decades, indeed the law requires
it. They also have to identify themselves with their callsign, which
is unique to each ham, and long before computers existed there were
books where you could look up callsigns to get people's addresses.

Every time I've had a letter published in the paper, it's had my name,
and general location. Now admittedly I could be confused with
others with the same name, but I sure don't use a pseudonym, or
for that matter the paper is not likely to print the letter unless
I use my real name (at the very least, they will expect a real
name, and address, at the bottom of the letter, which in some cases
they will not publish).

When I had some small articles published in "73" decades ago, they
included my name and callsign, and my address.

I've posted to the newsgroups for a decade, and I've always used my
real name, and even a completely legitimate email address that isn't
mangled.

In the local newsgroup, I've put in things over the years that deliberately
place me in the real world; no stalkers have appeared at places where
I clearly will be.

Just because some government agency says something does not make it
true.

Michael VE2BVW


Mike Coslo March 12th 05 10:46 PM

Michael Black wrote:

"Chris" ) writes:

On 11 Mar 2005 14:09:42 -0800, KØHB babbled:

More like "chicken**** coward by choice"



You obviously are totally ignorant of the recommendations for safe
Internet usage published by government organizations such as
www.ftc.gov. The U.S. FTC recommends against giving out personal
information anywhere on the Internet or on Usenet, and instead
suggests the use of handles or pseudonyms. It also suggests that
people go to some lengths to keep their names private even in such
formerly-public data bases such as domain name registrar "whois"
records. That's why major registrars now offer private registration.


So tell us how the internet is different form the "real world"?

Hams have used their real names for decades, indeed the law requires
it. They also have to identify themselves with their callsign, which
is unique to each ham, and long before computers existed there were
books where you could look up callsigns to get people's addresses.

Every time I've had a letter published in the paper, it's had my name,
and general location. Now admittedly I could be confused with
others with the same name, but I sure don't use a pseudonym, or
for that matter the paper is not likely to print the letter unless
I use my real name (at the very least, they will expect a real
name, and address, at the bottom of the letter, which in some cases
they will not publish).

When I had some small articles published in "73" decades ago, they
included my name and callsign, and my address.

I've posted to the newsgroups for a decade, and I've always used my
real name, and even a completely legitimate email address that isn't
mangled.

In the local newsgroup, I've put in things over the years that deliberately
place me in the real world; no stalkers have appeared at places where
I clearly will be.

Just because some government agency says something does not make it
true.


Now is the time that paranoia is encouraged, on an institutional and
especially a personal level.

Especially pernicious is the encouragement of paranoia, coupled with
the "somehow this is your fault" syndrome.

And yet, the real problem isn't posting on netnews. It is companies
such as one in the US, that *willingly* gave out personal information of
thousands and more customers to bogus companies that are doing the
ultimate "phishing".

And I could even possibly accept the anominity aspect of posting, if it
wasn't for the fact that most of the anonymous ones are not exactly the
most civil posters.

How handy.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Anon March 12th 05 10:53 PM

Hans old man -- there are numerous organizations on the internet that indeed
recommend the use of pseudonyms.

Here is a quote from URL:
http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs18-cyb.htm

"Be aware of the possible social dangers of being online: harassment,
stalking, being "flamed" (emotional verbal attacks), or "spamming" (being
sent unsolicited messages). Women can be vulnerable if their e-mail
addresses are recognizable as women's names. Consider using gender-neutral
e-mail addresses and pseudonyms."

Children are advised to use pseudonyms for obvious reasons.

Use google and look up "use of pseudonyms on the internet"

I remain -- Anon

"KØHB" wrote in message
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Anon wrote:

Anon by necessity


More like "chicken**** coward by choice"




Mike Coslo March 13th 05 12:58 AM



Anon wrote:

Hans old man -- there are numerous organizations on the internet that indeed
recommend the use of pseudonyms.

Here is a quote from URL:
http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs18-cyb.htm

"Be aware of the possible social dangers of being online: harassment,
stalking, being "flamed" (emotional verbal attacks), or "spamming" (being
sent unsolicited messages). Women can be vulnerable if their e-mail
addresses are recognizable as women's names. Consider using gender-neutral
e-mail addresses and pseudonyms."


Wow. Do you mean that someone out there might be mean to people? Now
that is scary.

Sounds like the woman who got so worked up she had to go to a hospital
when her neighbors kids left her some cookies one night.

She sued, and won. Good for her. Live in fear. You won't live longer,
but it will sure seem like it.


Children are advised to use pseudonyms for obvious reasons.


Parents are advised to not allow children on the internet unsupervised.
And any parent that allows instant messaging is getting more on their
computer than they think, fake name or not.

Use google and look up "use of pseudonyms on the internet"

I remain -- Anon


Congratulations!

- Mike KB3EIA -



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