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April 19th 05, 01:02 AM
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wrote: wrote: From: on Sun,Apr 17 2005 9:29 am wrote: From: on Sat,Apr 16 2005 8:44 am You're misquoting all over the place, Len. But it doesn't matter. Here, I'll clear it up: This is NOT a court of law and "exactness" of quoting is NOT required... Are you afraid of exact quotes, Len? You seem to be. Especially when they are FROM him...Because sure enough something he said is going to come back to haunt him... MARS and amateur radio aren't the same thing. But many radio amateurs are involved in MARS. The MILITARY Affiliate Radio System is DIRECTED by the Department of Defense. They function quite well by sole use of military personnel. No hams are involved in MARS? Sure they are, Jim. Lennie knows that. And Lennie ALSO knows that his "sole use of military personnel" is an absolute lie. See the links to the actual words of the DoD DIRECTIVE posted in here...see the links to several of the "Grecian Firebolt" radio exercises posted in here. Were you a part of that exercise, Len? Of course not. But Lennie COULD have been...Aafterall, HE said it's possible for non-Amateurs to become "licensed" in MARS who are not otherwise part of a relevent DoD program... Still waiting for him to tell us of how he's now on MARS without a Morse Code test.... That's my position. If Steve says different, argue with *him*. Considering that James P. Miccolis is a "good buddie" of that wonderful representative of a modern U.S. Amateur Extra, that is a specious comment of yours. Not specious at all, Len. You hold me responsible for what someone else does. Doesn't work like that, Len. Guess Lenie thinks that his sarcastic use of "wonderful representitive" doesn't work for him too. But it works just fine... You HAVE supported him in the recent past and not long ago disavowed any attempt to control his emotional outbursts. What you're saying is that if I agree with him on something, I'm somehow responsible for everything he does. As opposed to Lennie who's not even responsible for what Lennie does! MARS always was and remains a MILITARY radio system. But most of the participants aren't in the military. How do YOU know? I have sources, Len. Tsk, tsk, tsk. That is acceptible "acceptable", Len. A PROFESSIONAL writer doesn't make such mistakes. ;-) A TYPO! A TYPO! Lennie's MAD now Boys and Girls! ONLY to reputable journalistic practice. YOU are NOT a "reputable journalist." You do NOT have the qualifications. You are NOT INVOLVED in journalism. Neither are you, Len. I've been paid for papers I've written. Had them published, too. Guess that means I am "involved in journalism" too, eh...?!?! Do you feel insulted by my posts, Len? It seems so - you seem to find insult in everything. Not me. Yes, you. ESPECIALLY him! You are the one with daydreaming about the "need" of morsemanship in amateur radio licensing test. You really are unable to handle opposition and difference of viewpoints, Len. Oh, yes, that ties right in with a Canadian museum having morse code in its window...sure... Those windows really seem to bother you. ? I wash windows. I like Microsoft windows. I figured you for a Mac user, Len. What "bothers" me is that a NON-SERVUNG "SERVUNG"? What does that mean? (EVER) person tried to make out like he was the "expert" on the United States military use of radio. I don't claim to be an expert on anything, Len. I think the fact that I pointed out some of your mistakes really burns your bacon. He's made TYPOS! Lennie's REALLY mad now! You are NOT QUALIFIED for such a judgement. shrug Sure I am. Lesseee......I LOVE it when Lennie claims that one MUST have certain credentials in order to comment on military use of radio (which Lennie has not participated in in almost 50 years himself...), yet when any of us suggest that if he were a licensed Amateur with some PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE in Amateur Radio policy and practice, all he can tell us about is the licensure status of FCC commissioners and his Army days in 53-56 while getting profane and demanding! What has that to do with your claim that: "If you ain't got the guts to tell the details, you AIN'T done it. Simple as that." That's what you wrote, Len. Does it only apply to Steve and not to Brian. Simple. Brian has NOT insulted me personally, not even many times over. Robeson HAS and continues to do it. Ah, I see. If someone agrees with you and demonstrates the proper kudos, you accept what they say as absolute fact, without any details or supporting evidence. But if someone disagrees with you, and maybe "returns your fire" in the form of name calling and other jackass behavior, you demand "proof" and deny the reality of their experience. In fact, you claim that: "If you ain't got the guts to tell the details, you AIN'T done it. Simple as that." Of course you've also demonstrated that no matter what proof is presented, you won't accept it, and will attack the messenger. So there's no reason to give you details or proof. Still wondering where Lennie's pictures of his home "radio hobby" projects are...Of course he insults and He insists he has some (projects), but never discusses them or presents them. Has tons of time to insult others over theirs, though. If you don't believe I was there (I was), then Robeson's claim is irrelevant. No, it isn't. Either you were there, or you weren't. That's objective reality. Whether I believe it or not doesn't affect whether you were there or not. You claim without proof that no such person exists. So it's your word against his. Why do you feel you are INVOLVED with Robeson? What involvement? I'm simply pointing out some facts. That's what has Lennie confused. Facts are NOT his forte... You've already disavowed any capability of controlling his emotional tantrums in here. So? *You* can't control his emotional tantrums "in here", either, despite all your alleged knowledge of human nature and psychology, etc. In fact, Len, you can't even control your own emotional tantrums "in here" ;-) Extremely good point...especially with him making several posts this day alone with out-and-out demands, multiple typos (his own "rule" that typos are indicative of anger or "madness"), and frequent use of profanity and antagonistic comments such as "kiss off". Now maybe it's true and maybe it isn't. But it's basically your word against that of some unknown person. IMAGINARY person. The only way that could be proved true is if: 1) You were never at NADC, so nobody could know you from there. Nope...Lennie was there. 2) Everyone who knew you there is now dead or otherwise unable to communicate with Steve. Last I spoke with my contact there was 4 years ago. He may have passed on since then, but he's in great shape...I really doubt it. 3) You have complete information that no one you knew there has communicated with Steve. Ain't happened...Hence Lennie's frequent and lengthy tirades in here in order to mask his retreat...Problem is all he's doing is stompping that much harder! I can't "disprove" something that doesn't exist. So it's your word against his. Nothing more or less. A-yup. And it seems pretty evident from all teh rhetoric that I hit a pretty sensitive chord. He shudda kept his mouth shut instead of trying to show off! If you wish a reference to the fact that I WAS at NADC or that I worked with NADC engineers in the 1970s, you can verify that with KD6JG. Why? Was he there with you? How do I know his information is reliable? And such corroboration would only further substantiate my findings. More important - how would it prove that Steve has not communicated with someone who knew you there? =) Jimmie boy, you are getting VERY tiring with all this "intellectual word gaming" in here. Now there you go, Len, trying to make me angry by calling me names. The fact is you know you've painted yourself into a logical corner, and you're trying to bluff and bluster your way out. Can't you take "strong opposition"? Of course he can't, Jim. That's why he's so frustrated. He came in here thinking (falsely) that all those "amateurs" would just fall at his professional feet. When we not only DIDN'T kneel before him but actually demonstrated that, Yes, we CAN walk, chew gum AND talk on a radio at the same time, he got down right indignant...! All you are doing is WASTING TIME of others. How? I'm simply pointing out some of your mistakes and holes in your logic. Do you consider what you write to be a waste of time? I have plenty of time but grow tired of your constant petulance. What "petulance", Len? I'm not calling you names. I reiterate my suggestion of Lennie's perception as being better than "us"...He sees all of us as errant children, and he thinks himself the father about to administer corporal punishment. You have NO return on any investment. That's not what my monthly statements say! Seems to me all of us with an FCC Form 660 have an investment! All you seem to do is follow your buddie's word and SUPPORT him. You have NO proof that this imaginary "reference" of Robeson exists, can NOT present it to anyone else. I'm not trying to prove it one way or the other. That's for you and Steve to do. I'm just pointing out that your claims are as unproven as his. It's just your word against his. Nothing more. Uh oh...that was rationality, Jim...You'll confuse the old man. Why bother with all your foolish word games in here? Typing practice. Spelling practice. Logic practice. Plus it's mildly amusing. I kinda see it like watching a puppy chase his tail...Only I can't figure out if Lennie is the puppy or the tail. Are you that hard up for something to do? Not me. Obviously *you* are, though... Sounds to me like Lennie just wants everyone to shut up, get in line behind him, and don't do anything HE doesn't do! Bye. Off. Sounds like a veiled command for me to shut up. At least you won't call me a "feldwebel". I am sure Lennie wouldn't have known what it was if not for "Stalag 17". 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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