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K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Ham radio has certainly changed since I first heard about it back in the 40s. So many uptight folks in it now, so easily bruised, some wanting to bully, terrorize, and FIGHT! Perhaps, Lennie, if certain mischevious scumbags weren't looking to "bruise" people there wouldn't be such a propensity to be as defensive. Such as the deceitful and misleading barbs YOU disseminate in this forum. Guess you now think it's wrong for one to defend one's self? No one except Ghandi thinks that. But you make every posting as if it were a personal attack to your very being and your way of life. You made yourself a target, an easy target, by being such an idiot about everything. Lighten up. These are certainly not the good people that I first met when I became a ham. The trouble with amateur radio started with the advent of the no-code license. People began entering the service that did not worship at the altar of St. Hiram, and did not kneel and kisst the feet of Extras. The problem didn't start with the No Code test...It started almost 20 years before that with the influx of 11 meter operators via the Bash Book route and the subsequent codification of the "open pools". Ah, yes, the "Riff-Raff" theory. Almost 20 years ago I used the ARRL's "Now You're Talking" and the ARRL's non-Farnsworth Code tapes to enter the amateur radio service via "open pools" testing. |
From: "bb" on Sat 4 Jun 2005 17:22
wrote: From: "bb" on Sat 4 Jun 2005 05:54 wrote: From: "bb" on Fri 3 Jun 2005 03:51 wrote: From: bb on Jun 2, 6:27 pm K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: Ham radio has certainly changed since I first heard about it back in the 40s. So many uptight folks in it now, so easily bruised, some wanting to bully, terrorize, and FIGHT! :-) These are certainly not the good people that I first met when I became a ham. The trouble with amateur radio started with the advent of the no-code license. People began entering the service that did not worship at the altar of St. Hiram, and did not kneel and kisst the feet of Extras. Well, from my point of view, the change started a lot earlier. The movement to implement a no-code amateur license class was already underway at least a decade prior to 1990. The olde-tyme hammes "dismissed" such riff-raff haughtily, tried to bruise no-coders' knuckles with code keys and trumpeting like King Kong (complete with chest-beating) or the disdain of a sneering (but clumsy) Basil Fawlty in a (funny) English sit-com. The Ham Lifestylers created themselves around the 60s when there was left-over money to spend for fancy radio toys and time to do "radio pioneering" in "DXpeditions" and the self-styled "radiosport contests. They were the "Greatest" according to the ham publications, sort of like radio versions of Cassius Marcellus Clay after his name change. [look at Clay/Ali now...] "Radio" in itself can be very fascinating in and of itself. But, "radio" is really just one form of electronics and cannot, nor should not, be rooted/shielded/isolated into the old analog ways nor communications modes of six decades past. One problem, quite evident in here, is the Lifestylers trying to force everyone into THEIR way of thinking/doing as if that were the "voice of the amateur community." There is NO real voice, not even in the mighty national membership organization of hams that "represents" (according to them) only 1 out of 5 U.S. amateur licensees. It is THEIR little clubhouse and they are supremely, arrogantly intolerant of those who do not acknowledge THEM as the "masters." Their feet MUST be kissed and all MUST respect them...they keep telling others that in so many different ways. THEY are "superior." What is worse for the HOBBY is the attitudes of the Lifestylers is clearly evident to all those outsiders who greatly out- number them. The Lifestylers fear their Way of Life is Threatened by "mere hobbyists" and that fear makes them blind to their own actions and attitudes. They remain resolute and arrogant, elitist in their self-styled "superiority" and cannot recognize THEY are the greatest danger to the hobby. |
wrote in message ps.com... From: "bb" on Sat 4 Jun 2005 17:22 wrote: From: "bb" on Sat 4 Jun 2005 05:54 wrote: From: "bb" on Fri 3 Jun 2005 03:51 wrote: From: bb on Jun 2, 6:27 pm K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: Ham radio has certainly changed since I first heard about it back in the 40s. So many uptight folks in it now, so easily bruised, some wanting to bully, terrorize, and FIGHT! :-) These are certainly not the good people that I first met when I became a ham. The trouble with amateur radio started with the advent of the no-code license. People began entering the service that did not worship at the altar of St. Hiram, and did not kneel and kisst the feet of Extras. Well, from my point of view, the change started a lot earlier. The movement to implement a no-code amateur license class was already underway at least a decade prior to 1990. The olde-tyme hammes "dismissed" such riff-raff haughtily, tried to bruise no-coders' knuckles with code keys and trumpeting like King Kong (complete with chest-beating) or the disdain of a sneering (but clumsy) Basil Fawlty in a (funny) English sit-com. The Ham Lifestylers created themselves around the 60s when there was left-over money to spend for fancy radio toys and time to do "radio pioneering" in "DXpeditions" and the self-styled "radiosport contests. They were the "Greatest" according to the ham publications, sort of like radio versions of Cassius Marcellus Clay after his name change. [look at Clay/Ali now...] "Radio" in itself can be very fascinating in and of itself. But, "radio" is really just one form of electronics and cannot, nor should not, be rooted/shielded/isolated into the old analog ways nor communications modes of six decades past. One problem, quite evident in here, is the Lifestylers trying to force everyone into THEIR way of thinking/doing as if that were the "voice of the amateur community." There is NO real voice, not even in the mighty national membership organization of hams that "represents" (according to them) only 1 out of 5 U.S. amateur licensees. It is THEIR little clubhouse and they are supremely, arrogantly intolerant of those who do not acknowledge THEM as the "masters." Their feet MUST be kissed and all MUST respect them...they keep telling others that in so many different ways. THEY are "superior." What is worse for the HOBBY is the attitudes of the Lifestylers is clearly evident to all those outsiders who greatly out- number them. The Lifestylers fear their Way of Life is Threatened by "mere hobbyists" and that fear makes them blind to their own actions and attitudes. They remain resolute and arrogant, elitist in their self-styled "superiority" and cannot recognize THEY are the greatest danger to the hobby. Len. Question. What is your callsign? |
From: "bb" on Sun 5 Jun 2005 06:58
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Ham radio has certainly changed since I first heard about it back in the 40s. So many uptight folks in it now, so easily bruised, some wanting to bully, terrorize, and FIGHT! Perhaps, Lennie, if certain mischevious scumbags weren't looking to "bruise" people there wouldn't be such a propensity to be as defensive. Such as the deceitful and misleading barbs YOU disseminate in this forum. Guess you now think it's wrong for one to defend one's self? No one except Ghandi thinks that. But you make every posting as if it were a personal attack to your very being and your way of life. You made yourself a target, an easy target, by being such an idiot about everything. Lighten up. :-) These are certainly not the good people that I first met when I became a ham. The trouble with amateur radio started with the advent of the no-code license. People began entering the service that did not worship at the altar of St. Hiram, and did not kneel and kisst the feet of Extras. The problem didn't start with the No Code test...It started almost 20 years before that with the influx of 11 meter operators via the Bash Book route and the subsequent codification of the "open pools". Ah, yes, the "Riff-Raff" theory. Almost 20 years ago I used the ARRL's "Now You're Talking" and the ARRL's non-Farnsworth Code tapes to enter the amateur radio service via "open pools" testing. Ahem, "almost 20 years ago" would be about 1985. Class D CB was created in 1958...FORTY-SEVEN YEARS AGO. 27 years in between are unaccounted for in Stebie's statement. "11 meter 'operators?'" The original "11 meter" CB users required a license but never required any test. USERS. Absolutely NO written form of "radio knowledge" was required of any USER. "Open pools?" There were "Q&A" books published before 1956 on ALL FCC written tests. BEFORE the Dick Bash publications. That was way back in history when ALL the FCC radio regulations were supplied as three-ring binder, loose-leaf pages. Today's COMPLETE questions-and-answers pool is generated by the VEC Question Pool Committee. Those answers have three times the number of WRONG answers as there are correct ones. The VEC QPC is composed entirely of already-licensed amateurs. Those hams who bitch and moan about the "open" pools can go and pish all over their ham VEC QPC "brethren" about the questions. The FCC requires only a MINIMUM of ten times the number of questions for each class' written tests. There is NO LIMIT on the MAXIMUM number of pool questions. The FCC doesn't even require the KIND of questions...that's up to the QPC to determine. Given the electronic distribution of text and image material, there's not much limit on a QP size and that could have 100 times the minimum number of questions. The "riff-raff" aren't going to "easily pass" by "memorizing" ALL those questions and the ONE correct answer out of four. Various electronic industry groups have stopped keeping accurate tabulations on the number of "CB radios" either imported or in-use. Some time in the past, an EIA (Electronic Industries Association) estimated about five million CBs "in-use." That way outnumbered the number of oh-so-legal radio amateurs licensed at the time. Before the FCC stopped publishing databases on PRIVATE land, sea, and mobile radios NOT on ham bands, NOT on CB, those were an equal number to the total of licensed radio amateurs. There are about 100 million cellular telephone handsets in public use (estimated from Bureau of Census reports for 2003 on cell phone subscriptions) and the June, 2005, issue of the IEEE Spectrum (membership magazine) states that China has 300 million cell phones. Radios. Small ones. Not even counting the FRS and GMRS handsets. NONE of those requiring mighty test-taking of morse code proficiency. All of those non-ham radios are in use by "riff-raff?" Dick Bash is "responsible" for all the Q&A books published in the 1950s? Yes to all implies the mighty Stebie, "speaker for all hams and the 'ham community'." "Pbthpththth" says Bill the Cat. Hear the Opus. |
bb wrote: wrote: Ahem, "almost 20 years ago" would be about 1985. Class D CB was created in 1958...FORTY-SEVEN YEARS AGO. 27 years in between are unaccounted for in Stebie's statement. Steve is referring to 20 years prior to the advent of the No-Code Technician, which happened sometime in the early 90's, so his reference period is early 70's. Basically, he's saying that many, most, or all hams entereing the ARS since the early 70's have Bashed it and are worthless CBers. No...BRIAN BURKE is calling them "worthless CBers"... Steve Robeson said nothing of the sort. What Steve Robeson DID say was that certain downward trends in the Amateur Service began with the advent of the "Bash Books" and the subsequent "opening" of the question pools. "Open pools?" There were "Q&A" books published before 1956 on ALL FCC written tests. BEFORE the Dick Bash publications. That was way back in history when ALL the FCC radio regulations were supplied as three-ring binder, loose-leaf pages. ARRL, Ameco... Nice try. Yes, both publishers printed books that closely outlined the exams. NONE of them were verbatim recreations of the FCC examinations. I used the Ameco texts while studying for my General and Advanced tests. Neither had the questions I saw on those exams. All of those non-ham radios are in use by "riff-raff?" Dick Bash is "responsible" for all the Q&A books published in the 1950s? Yes to all implies the mighty Stebie, "speaker for all hams and the 'ham community'." Bash was a ham. A Mighty Morseman Bash was a pig. A disgusting profiteer. Unfortunately every profession has theirs. Bash, along with Fred Maia and Gordon West are ours. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Ahem, "almost 20 years ago" would be about 1985. Class D CB was created in 1958...FORTY-SEVEN YEARS AGO. 27 years in between are unaccounted for in Stebie's statement. Steve is referring to 20 years prior to the advent of the No-Code Technician, which happened sometime in the early 90's, so his reference period is early 70's. Basically, he's saying that many, most, or all hams entereing the ARS since the early 70's have Bashed it and are worthless CBers. No...BRIAN BURKE is calling them "worthless CBers"... Steve Robeson said nothing of the sort. Welp, whatever you said it was wrong. Just plain wrong. What Steve Robeson DID say was that certain downward trends in the Amateur Service began with the advent of the "Bash Books" and the subsequent "opening" of the question pools. You were the original data point that began the trend. "Open pools?" There were "Q&A" books published before 1956 on ALL FCC written tests. BEFORE the Dick Bash publications. That was way back in history when ALL the FCC radio regulations were supplied as three-ring binder, loose-leaf pages. ARRL, Ameco... Nice try. Yes, both publishers printed books that closely outlined the exams. Bingo. NONE of them were verbatim recreations of the FCC examinations. I used the Ameco texts while studying for my General and Advanced tests. Neither had the questions I saw on those exams. I guess you think that makes you better than the amateurs that used the questions pools? All of those non-ham radios are in use by "riff-raff?" Dick Bash is "responsible" for all the Q&A books published in the 1950s? Yes to all implies the mighty Stebie, "speaker for all hams and the 'ham community'." Bash was a ham. A Mighty Morseman Bash was a pig. A disgusting profiteer. Hi! Unfortunately every profession has theirs. Bash, along with Fred Maia and Gordon West are ours. Steve, K4YZ What of the ARRL? They also publish the question pools and sell them. |
From: "bb" on Sun,Jun 5 2005 8:44 pm
wrote: From: "bb" on Sun 5 Jun 2005 06:58 K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Ham radio has certainly changed since I first heard about it back in the 40s. So many uptight folks in it now, so easily bruised, some wanting to bully, terrorize, and FIGHT! Perhaps, Lennie, if certain mischevious scumbags weren't looking to "bruise" people there wouldn't be such a propensity to be as defensive. Such as the deceitful and misleading barbs YOU disseminate in this forum. Guess you now think it's wrong for one to defend one's self? No one except Ghandi thinks that. But you make every posting as if it were a personal attack to your very being and your way of life. You made yourself a target, an easy target, by being such an idiot about everything. Lighten up. :-) 8( The problem didn't start with the No Code test...It started almost 20 years before that with the influx of 11 meter operators via the Bash Book route and the subsequent codification of the "open pools". Ah, yes, the "Riff-Raff" theory. Almost 20 years ago I used the ARRL's "Now You're Talking" and the ARRL's non-Farnsworth Code tapes to enter the amateur radio service via "open pools" testing. Ahem, "almost 20 years ago" would be about 1985. Class D CB was created in 1958...FORTY-SEVEN YEARS AGO. 27 years in between are unaccounted for in Stebie's statement. Steve is referring to 20 years prior to the advent of the No-Code Technician, which happened sometime in the early 90's, so his reference period is early 70's. Basically, he's saying that many, most, or all hams entereing the ARS since the early 70's have Bashed it and are worthless CBers. Stebie doesn't have the word-laying savvy to express much except contempt for those who do not agree with him. The no-code-test Technician became effective in 1991. Going back 20 years before that would start at 1971. "Eleven meter" CB had already existed for 13 years by 1971 and the off-shore transceivers were already well-established in the radio market then. An early designer-manufacturer of CB radios, General Radiotelephone Co., of Burbank, CA, has already filed for bankruptcy and closed its corporation and location on Magnolia Blvd; the half-completed mast is still visible on the roof of that building today. Of course, Cecil put all that nonsense to rest years and years ago, but some people pesrist with wrong thoughts. I know. Many of us tried to show the truth in the non-amateur radio world. To little avail. Those who continue their myths will have none of the truth. "11 meter 'operators?'" The original "11 meter" CB users required a license but never required any test. USERS. Absolutely NO written form of "radio knowledge" was required of any USER. "Open pools?" There were "Q&A" books published before 1956 on ALL FCC written tests. BEFORE the Dick Bash publications. That was way back in history when ALL the FCC radio regulations were supplied as three-ring binder, loose-leaf pages. ARRL, Ameco... For amateur radio written exams, yes. There was an earlier publisher of Q&A books which covered many different topics, including the FCC Commercial License written exams. I tried to obtain one of those in late February, 1956, couldn't and resorted to simply studying the entirety of the available FCC radio regulations of that time (quite small in comparison to the five-volume bound set of Title 47 today). All of those non-ham radios are in use by "riff-raff?" Dick Bash is "responsible" for all the Q&A books published in the 1950s? Yes to all implies the mighty Stebie, "speaker for all hams and the 'ham community'." Bash was a ham. A Mighty Morseman Irrelevant to those who need Hate Objects. :-) Just as irrelevant to the fact that Bruce Perens, founder of the No Code International interest group was a 20 WPM code- tested Amateur Extra BEFORE he founded that group. :-) Class C and D Citizens Band Radio Service is close to the half-century mark and most of its detractors (and haters) were either unborn or had not obtained any license when it was created. "Class C" exists, expanded in permissible frequencies, as "Radio Control Radio Service" in Part 95. "Class D" is in the same part and called simply "Citizens Band Radio Service." Class A and B, on low UHF frequencies was discontinued many years before. It would have been a year-plus older than Class C and D had it continued. NONE of the original four Citizens Band classes required any user to take any written test for a CB license. Such licenses were discontinued by the FCC when the number of CB users reached about a half million or so; exact number is irrelevant with the near-present-day number of CB radios being estimated at 5 MILLION in use. "Pbthpththth" says Bill the Cat. Hear the Opus. |
wrote: From: "bb" on Sun,Jun 5 2005 8:44 pm Ahem, "almost 20 years ago" would be about 1985. Class D CB was created in 1958...FORTY-SEVEN YEARS AGO. 27 years in between are unaccounted for in Stebie's statement. Steve is referring to 20 years prior to the advent of the No-Code Technician, which happened sometime in the early 90's, so his reference period is early 70's. Basically, he's saying that many, most, or all hams entereing the ARS since the early 70's have Bashed it and are worthless CBers. Stebie doesn't have the word-laying savvy to express much except contempt for those who do not agree with him. Some of the world's greatest "word-layers" were also some of it's most horrific personalites..."you-know-who" in central Europe in the late 20's to mid-forties comes to mind. The no-code-test Technician became effective in 1991. Yes. Your point? Going back 20 years before that would start at 1971. Very good, Lennie! They teach you that at night school engineer class? "Eleven meter" CB had already existed for 13 years by 1971 and the off-shore transceivers were already well-established in the radio market then. Uh huh...waiting for you to make a point other than mindlessly FOD the group with irrelevent historical tidbits. I am wondering how CB has anything to do with MY comments, since I never mentioned CB radio... An early designer-manufacturer of CB radios, General Radiotelephone Co., of Burbank, CA, has already filed for bankruptcy and closed its corporation and location on Magnolia Blvd; the half-completed mast is still visible on the roof of that building today. Whew... For a minute there I thought you might surprise me and actaully make a point...A RELATIVE point, that is...! Of course, Cecil put all that nonsense to rest years and years ago, but some people pesrist with wrong thoughts. I know. Many of us tried to show the truth in the non-amateur radio world. To little avail. Those who continue their myths will have none of the truth. And there are non-Amateurs in this forum who would create and disseminate their own myths. Like Lennie Anderson. "11 meter 'operators?'" The original "11 meter" CB users required a license but never required any test. USERS. Absolutely NO written form of "radio knowledge" was required of any USER. "Open pools?" There were "Q&A" books published before 1956 on ALL FCC written tests. BEFORE the Dick Bash publications. That was way back in history when ALL the FCC radio regulations were supplied as three-ring binder, loose-leaf pages. ARRL, Ameco... For amateur radio written exams, yes. There was an earlier publisher of Q&A books which covered many different topics, including the FCC Commercial License written exams. I tried to obtain one of those in late February, 1956, couldn't and resorted to simply studying the entirety of the available FCC radio regulations of that time (quite small in comparison to the five-volume bound set of Title 47 today). Whoa! We're (not) impressed. BTW...I point out that I studied and prepared for my license the old fashion way and you make light of it...So...What are we to do with YOU, Licenseless One? All of those non-ham radios are in use by "riff-raff?" Dick Bash is "responsible" for all the Q&A books published in the 1950s? Yes to all implies the mighty Stebie, "speaker for all hams and the 'ham community'." Bash was a ham. A Mighty Morseman Irrelevant to those who need Hate Objects. Every venue has it's bad apple...Amateur Radio had Bash...RRAP has Lennie. Just as irrelevant to the fact that Bruce Perens, founder of the No Code International interest group was a 20 WPM code- tested Amateur Extra BEFORE he founded that group. Good for him. He had an ideal, prepared it, presented it, and used it effectively. In the process, he didn't violate a single American law, nor did he find it necessary to villify, denigrate or otherwise demean other Amateur Radio operators in the proces Class C and D Citizens Band Radio Service is close to the half-century mark and most of its detractors (and haters) were either unborn or had not obtained any license when it was created. "Class C" exists, expanded in permissible frequencies, as "Radio Control Radio Service" in Part 95. "Class D" is in the same part and called simply "Citizens Band Radio Service." Again, I am sure there is a point to be made here, however all I see is more useless Class A and B, on low UHF frequencies was discontinued many years before. It would have been a year-plus older than Class C and D had it continued. NONE of the original four Citizens Band classes required any user to take any written test for a CB license. Such licenses were discontinued by the FCC when the number of CB users reached about a half million or so; exact number is irrelevant with the near-present-day number of CB radios being estimated at 5 MILLION in use. And we're S T I L L waiting for some point to be made. WHAT does the history of the Citizen's Radio Service have to do with changes in the AMATEUR Radio Service due to Bash/NCT? "Pbthpththth" says Bill the Cat. Hear the Opus. Actually, Lennie, it's "Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft" LenNeverSayInTenWordsWhatYouCanObfus... Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Ahem, "almost 20 years ago" would be about 1985. Class D CB was created in 1958...FORTY-SEVEN YEARS AGO. 27 years in between are unaccounted for in Stebie's statement. Steve is referring to 20 years prior to the advent of the No-Code Technician, which happened sometime in the early 90's, so his reference period is early 70's. Basically, he's saying that many, most, or all hams entereing the ARS since the early 70's have Bashed it and are worthless CBers. No...BRIAN BURKE is calling them "worthless CBers"... Steve Robeson said nothing of the sort. Welp, whatever you said it was wrong. Just plain wrong. "...whatever you said..." ?!?! BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! YOU are the person who refered to other radio operators as "WORTHLESS"... And I NEVER called ANY operator, CB, Amateur or otherwise "worthless". Can't even keep two days worth of exchanges straight, can you, Burke..?!?! Can't even keep YOUR stories straight! Once again, for your edification: "What Steve Robeson DID say was that certain downward trends in the Amateur Service began with the advent of the "Bash Books" and the subsequent "opening" of the question pools" What Steve Robeson DID say was that certain downward trends in the Amateur Service began with the advent of the "Bash Books" and the subsequent "opening" of the question pools. You were the original data point that began the trend. No...I established a time line based upon another event. I had nothing to do with it, Brain. I "experienced" it, but was not aprt of it. "Open pools?" There were "Q&A" books published before 1956 on ALL FCC written tests. BEFORE the Dick Bash publications. That was way back in history when ALL the FCC radio regulations were supplied as three-ring binder, loose-leaf pages. ARRL, Ameco... Nice try. Yes, both publishers printed books that closely outlined the exams. Bingo. What "bingo"...?!?! They did not then publish the verbatim questions and answers to the FCC tests. FCC regulations at the time forbade it. NONE of them were verbatim recreations of the FCC examinations. I used the Ameco texts while studying for my General and Advanced tests. Neither had the questions I saw on those exams. I guess you think that makes you better than the amateurs that used the questions pools? Nope. Not in the least. But it DOES mean I know more about radio communications because I actually learned the material. All of those non-ham radios are in use by "riff-raff?" Dick Bash is "responsible" for all the Q&A books published in the 1950s? Yes to all implies the mighty Stebie, "speaker for all hams and the 'ham community'." Bash was a ham. A Mighty Morseman Bash was a pig. A disgusting profiteer. Hi! Shouldn't that have been at the opening of the post? Unfortunately every profession has theirs. Bash, along with Fred Maia and Gordon West are ours. Steve, K4YZ What of the ARRL? They also publish the question pools and sell them. I wish you could have been in SoCal the same time I was, Brain...GW flooded SoCal with these "operators" who took his weekend "radio school" and walked out with an Amateur license. Yes...the ARRL sells them too...Point taken. Steve, K4YZ I think the length of your reply would please Len. |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: I think the length of your reply would please Len. I seriously doubt it. I could quote "War and Peace" verbatim and still come up short on most LennieRants. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: I think the length of your reply would please Len. I seriously doubt it. I could quote "War and Peace" verbatim and still come up short on most LennieRants. Steve, K4YZ You protest too much. |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: I think the length of your reply would please Len. I seriously doubt it. I could quote "War and Peace" verbatim and still come up short on most LennieRants. Steve, K4YZ You protest too much. Protesting is legal, demostrates a strength of character and dedication to one's values. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: I think the length of your reply would please Len. I seriously doubt it. I could quote "War and Peace" verbatim and still come up short on most LennieRants. Steve, K4YZ You protest too much. Protesting is legal, demostrates a strength of character and dedication to one's values. Say hello to Jane Fonda. Len would be pleased. |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: I think the length of your reply would please Len. I seriously doubt it. I could quote "War and Peace" verbatim and still come up short on most LennieRants. Steve, K4YZ You protest too much. Protesting is legal, demostrates a strength of character and dedication to one's values. Say hello to Jane Fonda. Jane Fonda is a traitorous slut. And that's my warm/fuzzy opinion about her. It get's more colorful from there. Len would be pleased. Of...?!?! Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: I think the length of your reply would please Len. I seriously doubt it. I could quote "War and Peace" verbatim and still come up short on most LennieRants. Steve, K4YZ You protest too much. Protesting is legal, demostrates a strength of character and dedication to one's values. Say hello to Jane Fonda. Jane Fonda is a traitorous slut. And that's my warm/fuzzy opinion about her. It get's more colorful from there. She exhibits all of the traits that you admire. Len would be pleased. Of...?!?! Steve, K4YZ You standing with Jane. |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: I think the length of your reply would please Len. I seriously doubt it. I could quote "War and Peace" verbatim and still come up short on most LennieRants. Steve, K4YZ You protest too much. Protesting is legal, demostrates a strength of character and dedication to one's values. Say hello to Jane Fonda. Jane Fonda is a traitorous slut. And that's my warm/fuzzy opinion about her. It get's more colorful from there. She exhibits all of the traits that you admire. Oh no, Brain...Defiling Veterans is Lennie's schtick. Your mentor. The slimey weasel that parodies the Tomb of the Unknowns and whom YOU said you "admire". Mine is causing painful but non-lethal trauma to those who associate me with a known traitor like Jane Fonda. Know anyone like that? I have one in mind. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: I think the length of your reply would please Len. I seriously doubt it. I could quote "War and Peace" verbatim and still come up short on most LennieRants. Steve, K4YZ You protest too much. Protesting is legal, demostrates a strength of character and dedication to one's values. Say hello to Jane Fonda. Jane Fonda is a traitorous slut. And that's my warm/fuzzy opinion about her. It get's more colorful from there. She exhibits all of the traits that you admire. Oh no, Brain...Defiling Veterans is Lennie's schtick. Your mentor. The slimey weasel that parodies the Tomb of the Unknowns and whom YOU said you "admire". I don't admire that. Do you admire all things about Jane? Mine is causing painful but non-lethal trauma to those who associate me with a known traitor like Jane Fonda. "Mine" what? Fantasy? Reality? What? Know anyone like that? I have one in mind. Steve, K4YZ I'm sure you do. Care to share in public, or do the veiled threats continue? |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: I think the length of your reply would please Len. I seriously doubt it. I could quote "War and Peace" verbatim and still come up short on most LennieRants. Steve, K4YZ You protest too much. Protesting is legal, demostrates a strength of character and dedication to one's values. Say hello to Jane Fonda. Jane Fonda is a traitorous slut. And that's my warm/fuzzy opinion about her. It get's more colorful from there. She exhibits all of the traits that you admire. Oh no, Brain...Defiling Veterans is Lennie's schtick. Your mentor. The slimey weasel that parodies the Tomb of the Unknowns and whom YOU said you "admire". I don't admire that. You don't admire what? YOU stated you admire Lennie. Were you lying then, or are you lying now? Almost all of the regulars (and quite a few of the anonymous posters, too) have spoken out very decisively AGAINST Lennie's vile parody of the Tomb of the Unknowns... Except you... Do you admire all things about Jane? Ms Fonda lost all dignity and respect when she sat her butt down in that weapon's control seat in North Viet Nam. She chose the path of a traitor as opposed to peaceful protest. Mine is causing painful but non-lethal trauma to those who associate me with a known traitor like Jane Fonda. "Mine" what? Fantasy? Reality? What? You really can't be THAT ignorant...Or can you...?!?! Know anyone like that? I have one in mind. Steve, K4YZ I'm sure you do. Care to share in public, or do the veiled threats continue? No veiled threat, Brain. Seve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: I think the length of your reply would please Len. I seriously doubt it. I could quote "War and Peace" verbatim and still come up short on most LennieRants. Steve, K4YZ You protest too much. Protesting is legal, demostrates a strength of character and dedication to one's values. Say hello to Jane Fonda. Jane Fonda is a traitorous slut. And that's my warm/fuzzy opinion about her. It get's more colorful from there. She exhibits all of the traits that you admire. Oh no, Brain...Defiling Veterans is Lennie's schtick. Your mentor. The slimey weasel that parodies the Tomb of the Unknowns and whom YOU said you "admire". I don't admire that. You don't admire what? YOU stated you admire Lennie. Were you lying then, or are you lying now? I stated that I admired Len for standing up to the Might Macho Morsemen. I admired him for not backing down as a lesser person would have run away from your constant attacks and those of your cronies. I still admire that aspect of Len. I do not admire "that" to which you referred. Do you recall the context??? Even though I try to find some good in each person, I do not admire you under any circumstance. You are a whacko. Almost all of the regulars (and quite a few of the anonymous posters, too) have spoken out very decisively AGAINST Lennie's vile parody of the Tomb of the Unknowns... Except you... Are you really that ignorant? Do you admire all things about Jane? Ms Fonda lost all dignity and respect when she sat her butt down in that weapon's control seat in North Viet Nam. Where were you? She chose the path of a traitor as opposed to peaceful protest. You chose your path, and the no-servers chose theirs. Mine is causing painful but non-lethal trauma to those who associate me with a known traitor like Jane Fonda. "Mine" what? Fantasy? Reality? What? You really can't be THAT ignorant...Or can you...?!?! Everyone is "THAT" ignorant when you start using weasel words. What do they mean? Know anyone like that? I have one in mind. Steve, K4YZ I'm sure you do. Care to share in public, or do the veiled threats continue? No veiled threat, Brain. Apparently they do continue... |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Oh no, Brain...Defiling Veterans is Lennie's schtick. Your mentor. The slimey weasel that parodies the Tomb of the Unknowns and whom YOU said you "admire". I don't admire that. You don't admire what? YOU stated you admire Lennie. Were you lying then, or are you lying now? I stated that I admired Len for standing up to the Might Macho Morsemen. I admired him for not backing down as a lesser person would have run away from your constant attacks and those of your cronies. I still admire that aspect of Len. I do not admire "that" to which you referred. Do you recall the context??? Of course I do. Even though I try to find some good in each person, I do not admire you under any circumstance. Too bad. You have your good moments. I've said so. You are a whacko. And you're a documented chronic liar. So who do you think will believe you, other than Lennie who is ALSO a documented chronic liar...?!?! Almost all of the regulars (and quite a few of the anonymous posters, too) have spoken out very decisively AGAINST Lennie's vile parody of the Tomb of the Unknowns... Except you... Are you really that ignorant? I am not ignorant at all. All of "us" have DIRECTLY addressed his vile and demeaning "parody" of the Tomb of the Unknowns. You have not. Why? Coward? Do you admire all things about Jane? Ms Fonda lost all dignity and respect when she sat her butt down in that weapon's control seat in North Viet Nam. Where were you? It doesn't matter WHERE I was. She's a traitor. Documented in countless testimonies. Not a one of those testimonies has been challenged, by Fonda or any person or entity on her behalf. She chose the path of a traitor as opposed to peaceful protest. You chose your path, and the no-servers chose theirs. The "no-servers" have not broken any laws. As for the path I chose, yes, I did. As did you. Too bad you wound up with the reputation of being a chronic liar, eh...?!?! Mine is causing painful but non-lethal trauma to those who associate me with a known traitor like Jane Fonda. "Mine" what? Fantasy? Reality? What? You really can't be THAT ignorant...Or can you...?!?! Everyone is "THAT" ignorant when you start using weasel words. What do they mean? What weasel words? I wasn't aware that weasels (other than you and Lennie) were able to communicate, let alone have a vocabulary. Know anyone like that? I have one in mind. Steve, K4YZ I'm sure you do. Care to share in public, or do the veiled threats continue? No veiled threat, Brain. Apparently they do continue... What continues? Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Oh no, Brain...Defiling Veterans is Lennie's schtick. Your mentor. The slimey weasel that parodies the Tomb of the Unknowns and whom YOU said you "admire". I don't admire that. You don't admire what? YOU stated you admire Lennie. Were you lying then, or are you lying now? I stated that I admired Len for standing up to the Might Macho Morsemen. I admired him for not backing down as a lesser person would have run away from your constant attacks and those of your cronies. I still admire that aspect of Len. I do not admire "that" to which you referred. Do you recall the context??? Of course I do. Then why do you use weasel words and play games? Even though I try to find some good in each person, I do not admire you under any circumstance. Too bad. You have your good moments. I've said so. You are a whacko. And you're a documented chronic liar. So who do you think will believe you, other than Lennie who is ALSO a documented chronic liar...?!?! I documented a single, three-week lying spree of yours where you told 29 new lies. Almost all of the regulars (and quite a few of the anonymous posters, too) have spoken out very decisively AGAINST Lennie's vile parody of the Tomb of the Unknowns... Except you... Are you really that ignorant? I am not ignorant at all. Neither are the criminally insane. All of "us" have DIRECTLY addressed his vile and demeaning "parody" of the Tomb of the Unknowns. You have not. Why? Coward? Why has Jimmy the Riveter continued newgroup friendship with you after your "slashed tires and terrorized wife" remarks? Do you admire all things about Jane? Ms Fonda lost all dignity and respect when she sat her butt down in that weapon's control seat in North Viet Nam. Where were you? It doesn't matter WHERE I was. She's a traitor. You may have been a traitor also. Where were you? Documented in countless testimonies. Not a one of those testimonies has been challenged, by Fonda or any person or entity on her behalf. The NRA allowed a traitor to join? She chose the path of a traitor as opposed to peaceful protest. You chose your path, and the no-servers chose theirs. The "no-servers" have not broken any laws. They may have. As for the path I chose, yes, I did. As did you. Too bad you wound up with the reputation of being a chronic liar, eh...?!?! Hi! I documented a single, three-week lying spree of yours where you told 29 new lies. Mine is causing painful but non-lethal trauma to those who associate me with a known traitor like Jane Fonda. "Mine" what? Fantasy? Reality? What? You really can't be THAT ignorant...Or can you...?!?! Everyone is "THAT" ignorant when you start using weasel words. What do they mean? What weasel words? I wasn't aware that weasels (other than you and Lennie) were able to communicate, let alone have a vocabulary. Yet you have a vocabulary and communicate. Your awareness needs updating. Know anyone like that? I have one in mind. Steve, K4YZ I'm sure you do. Care to share in public, or do the veiled threats continue? No veiled threat, Brain. Apparently they do continue... What continues? Your weasel words and obtuseness. If you are going to threaten me, just do so without regard to the consequences. You'll feel better for a little while. |
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K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Oh no, Brain...Defiling Veterans is Lennie's schtick. Your mentor. The slimey weasel that parodies the Tomb of the Unknowns and whom YOU said you "admire". I don't admire that. You don't admire what? YOU stated you admire Lennie. Were you lying then, or are you lying now? I stated that I admired Len for standing up to the Might Macho Morsemen. I admired him for not backing down as a lesser person would have run away from your constant attacks and those of your cronies. I still admire that aspect of Len. I do not admire "that" to which you referred. Do you recall the context??? Of course I do. Then why do you use weasel words and play games? Then why ahve YOU not admonished Lennie for his sick parody? Why do YOU continue to do YOUR "weasel" routine, Brian...?!?! Even though I try to find some good in each person, I do not admire you under any circumstance. Too bad. You have your good moments. I've said so. You are a whacko. And you're a documented chronic liar. So who do you think will believe you, other than Lennie who is ALSO a documented chronic liar...?!?! I documented a single, three-week lying spree of yours where you told 29 new lies. No...you accused me of lying. You were challenged at each and ever accusation to prove it. You didn't. We KNOW who the liar is, and it's not me. Almost all of the regulars (and quite a few of the anonymous posters, too) have spoken out very decisively AGAINST Lennie's vile parody of the Tomb of the Unknowns... Except you... Are you really that ignorant? I am not ignorant at all. Neither are the criminally insane. You are? All of "us" have DIRECTLY addressed his vile and demeaning "parody" of the Tomb of the Unknowns. You have not. Why? Coward? Why has Jimmy the Riveter continued newgroup friendship with you after your "slashed tires and terrorized wife" remarks? Because I didn't threaten anyone. Veiled or otherwise. Just like your attempt to misrepresent my comments about Amateur Radio and MARS, you take one line from a post them try to make it appear as something other than what it was. That's why I can say "Brian P Burke is a chronic liar" and know that you can never take me to court over it. Because I have the evidence to prove my assertions. Do you admire all things about Jane? Ms Fonda lost all dignity and respect when she sat her butt down in that weapon's control seat in North Viet Nam. Where were you? It doesn't matter WHERE I was. She's a traitor. You may have been a traitor also. Nope. Where were you? I didn't tell you? Documented in countless testimonies. Not a one of those testimonies has been challenged, by Fonda or any person or entity on her behalf. The NRA allowed a traitor to join? I don't know. I'm not a member of the NRA. How is this germane? She chose the path of a traitor as opposed to peaceful protest. You chose your path, and the no-servers chose theirs. The "no-servers" have not broken any laws. They may have. Lacking any credible evidence to the contrary, they haven't. So says the Constitution of the United States. As for the path I chose, yes, I did. As did you. Too bad you wound up with the reputation of being a chronic liar, eh...?!?! Hi! I documented a single, three-week lying spree of yours where you told 29 new lies. No you didn't. You ACCUSED me of lying, but refused in each and every instance to substantiate your claims. You never did. Not once. I wasn't aware that weasels (other than you and Lennie) were able to communicate, let alone have a vocabulary. Yet you have a vocabulary and communicate. Your awareness needs updating. I'm not a weasel. Know anyone like that? I have one in mind. Steve, K4YZ I'm sure you do. Care to share in public, or do the veiled threats continue? No veiled threat, Brain. Apparently they do continue... What continues? Your weasel words and obtuseness. If you are going to threaten me, just do so without regard to the consequences. You'll feel better for a little while. What threats? What consequences? You accuse me of "threats" vis-a-vis your recent "what is a hostile action" rant. Then when I offer you an example of what I would consider a "hostile action", clearly in response to YOUR question, you make your unfounded accusation. If you feel threatened, why don't you go right ahead and print off those threads and stop by the local PD to file a complaint. Heck...go ahead and stop byt the FBI since this crosses state lines... Then when required to respond, I'll bring along YOUR stuff, including your "weasel" wordsmithing, wanton deceit and blatant lying and overt attempts to make false accusations of your own. Oh...and I'll being along the ENTIRE post that you continue to misquote from vis-a-vis "slashed tires", etc, just so they can get "the big picture" on what your TRUE character is all about. That ought to set your reputation with law enforcement. It's sure done it here. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Oh no, Brain...Defiling Veterans is Lennie's schtick. Your mentor. The slimey weasel that parodies the Tomb of the Unknowns and whom YOU said you "admire". I don't admire that. You don't admire what? YOU stated you admire Lennie. Were you lying then, or are you lying now? I stated that I admired Len for standing up to the Might Macho Morsemen. I admired him for not backing down as a lesser person would have run away from your constant attacks and those of your cronies. I still admire that aspect of Len. I do not admire "that" to which you referred. Do you recall the context??? Of course I do. Then why do you use weasel words and play games? Then why ahve YOU not admonished Lennie for his sick parody? Haven't you done so? Even though I try to find some good in each person, I do not admire you under any circumstance. Too bad. You have your good moments. I've said so. You are a whacko. And you're a documented chronic liar. So who do you think will believe you, other than Lennie who is ALSO a documented chronic liar...?!?! I documented a single, three-week lying spree of yours where you told 29 new lies. No...you accused me of lying. You were challenged at each and ever accusation to prove it. You didn't. We KNOW who the liar is, and it's not me. But it is you. It's as plain as the nose on your face. Almost all of the regulars (and quite a few of the anonymous posters, too) have spoken out very decisively AGAINST Lennie's vile parody of the Tomb of the Unknowns... Except you... Are you really that ignorant? I am not ignorant at all. Neither are the criminally insane. You are? You are what? All of "us" have DIRECTLY addressed his vile and demeaning "parody" of the Tomb of the Unknowns. You have not. Why? Coward? Why has Jimmy the Riveter continued newgroup friendship with you after your "slashed tires and terrorized wife" remarks? Because I didn't threaten anyone. Veiled or otherwise. Hi! Just like your attempt to misrepresent my comments about Amateur Radio and MARS, you take one line from a post them try to make it appear as something other than what it was. It is what it is. That's why I can say "Brian P Burke is a chronic liar" and know that you can never take me to court over it. Because I have the evidence to prove my assertions. Hi! I would never take you to court for having a stupid opinion. Do you admire all things about Jane? Ms Fonda lost all dignity and respect when she sat her butt down in that weapon's control seat in North Viet Nam. Where were you? It doesn't matter WHERE I was. She's a traitor. You may have been a traitor also. Nope. Where were you? I didn't tell you? Nope. Documented in countless testimonies. Not a one of those testimonies has been challenged, by Fonda or any person or entity on her behalf. The NRA allowed a traitor to join? I don't know. I'm not a member of the NRA. How is this germane? She chose the path of a traitor as opposed to peaceful protest. You chose your path, and the no-servers chose theirs. The "no-servers" have not broken any laws. They may have. Lacking any credible evidence to the contrary, they haven't. So says the Constitution of the United States. Have you broken any laws? As for the path I chose, yes, I did. As did you. Too bad you wound up with the reputation of being a chronic liar, eh...?!?! Hi! I documented a single, three-week lying spree of yours where you told 29 new lies. No you didn't. But I did. It's all archived. You ACCUSED me of lying, but refused in each and every instance to substantiate your claims. You substantiated my claims with each new lie. You never did. Not once. You did. I wasn't aware that weasels (other than you and Lennie) were able to communicate, let alone have a vocabulary. Yet you have a vocabulary and communicate. Your awareness needs updating. I'm not a weasel. I say you are. Know anyone like that? I have one in mind. Steve, K4YZ I'm sure you do. Care to share in public, or do the veiled threats continue? No veiled threat, Brain. Apparently they do continue... What continues? Your weasel words and obtuseness. If you are going to threaten me, just do so without regard to the consequences. You'll feel better for a little while. What threats? What consequences? Hi! Are you on estrogen therapy now? Or just get out of an ice bath? You accuse me of "threats" vis-a-vis your recent "what is a hostile action" rant. Then when I offer you an example of what I would consider a "hostile action", clearly in response to YOUR question, you make your unfounded accusation. Because I was never in any of your claimed hostile actions, but you want to harm me as an example of one of them. Try to get your own hostile actions right the next time and there won't be any confusion. If you feel threatened, why don't you go right ahead and print off those threads and stop by the local PD to file a complaint. Heck...go ahead and stop byt the FBI since this crosses state lines... Then when required to respond, I'll bring along YOUR stuff, including your "weasel" wordsmithing, wanton deceit and blatant lying and overt attempts to make false accusations of your own. Oh...and I'll being along the ENTIRE post that you continue to misquote from vis-a-vis "slashed tires", etc, just so they can get "the big picture" on what your TRUE character is all about. That ought to set your reputation with law enforcement. It's sure done it here. Steve, K4YZ Steven J. Robeson, I have no reputation with law enforcement. But you bear watching. |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Then why do you use weasel words and play games? Then why have YOU not admonished Lennie for his sick parody? Haven't you done so? The question was not about me, Brain. The question was about YOU. I asked YOU why YOU hadn't taken the time to add your comments about Lennie's sick parody. And you're a documented chronic liar. So who do you think will believe you, other than Lennie who is ALSO a documented chronic liar...?!?! I documented a single, three-week lying spree of yours where you told 29 new lies. No...you accused me of lying. You were challenged at each and ever accusation to prove it. You didn't. We KNOW who the liar is, and it's not me. But it is you. It's as plain as the nose on your face. My statements stand. You've been challenged to make good on your accusations of lying. Are you going to make good on it, or is this yet ANOTHER example of how you dodge and snivvle your way out of a tight spot? All of "us" have DIRECTLY addressed his vile and demeaning "parody" of the Tomb of the Unknowns. You have not. Why? Coward? Why has Jimmy the Riveter continued newgroup friendship with you after your "slashed tires and terrorized wife" remarks? Because I didn't threaten anyone. Veiled or otherwise. Hi! Hello to you too, but that shudda been right up front. Just like your attempt to misrepresent my comments about Amateur Radio and MARS, you take one line from a post them try to make it appear as something other than what it was. It is what it is. What it "is" is an out-of-context quote meant to misrepresent what was REALLY said. In other words, an act of deception on your part. That's why I can say "Brian P Burke is a chronic liar" and know that you can never take me to court over it. Because I have the evidence to prove my assertions. Hi! I would never take you to court for having a stupid opinion. It's not an opinion, stupid or otherwise. It's an assertion. "Brian P Burke is a chronic liar". Do you admire all things about Jane? Ms Fonda lost all dignity and respect when she sat her butt down in that weapon's control seat in North Viet Nam. Where were you? It doesn't matter WHERE I was. She's a traitor. You may have been a traitor also. Nope. Where were you? I didn't tell you? Nope. Then I guess it wasn't any of your business, now was it...?!?! Documented in countless testimonies. Not a one of those testimonies has been challenged, by Fonda or any person or entity on her behalf. The NRA allowed a traitor to join? I don't know. I'm not a member of the NRA. How is this germane? You skipped this question, Brain. You suggested that the NRA allowed a traitor to join. I asked how it's germane. And who's the alleged traitor? Hanoi Jane? If so, darned glad the NRA doesn't have any of my money in it's coffers. She chose the path of a traitor as opposed to peaceful protest. You chose your path, and the no-servers chose theirs. The "no-servers" have not broken any laws. They may have. Lacking any credible evidence to the contrary, they haven't. So says the Constitution of the United States. Have you broken any laws? On the one's where it says "55MPH" No one, not even a worm like you, can discolot my service either in the Marine Corps, or any other agency or organization I belong to now or since... As for the path I chose, yes, I did. As did you. Too bad you wound up with the reputation of being a chronic liar, eh...?!?! Hi! I documented a single, three-week lying spree of yours where you told 29 new lies. No you didn't. But I did. It's all archived. No, you didn't. You CLAIMED lies. On each and ever CLAIM, I demanded that you substantiate yourclaim. You never did. Not once. You ACCUSED me of lying, but refused in each and every instance to substantiate your claims. You substantiated my claims with each new lie. You never did. Not once. You did. Then YOU are promulgating a lie right now, Brain. Stop it. Your family is going to be veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery disappointed in you. I wasn't aware that weasels (other than you and Lennie) were able to communicate, let alone have a vocabulary. Yet you have a vocabulary and communicate. Your awareness needs updating. I'm not a weasel. I say you are. Then you're lying. Again. Your weasel words and obtuseness. If you are going to threaten me, just do so without regard to the consequences. You'll feel better for a little while. What threats? What consequences? Hi! Are you on estrogen therapy now? Or just get out of an ice bath? Nope. What threats? What consequences? You accuse me of "threats" vis-a-vis your recent "what is a hostile action" rant. Then when I offer you an example of what I would consider a "hostile action", clearly in response to YOUR question, you make your unfounded accusation. Because I was never in any of your claimed hostile actions, but you want to harm me as an example of one of them. Nope. You asked what I consider a "hostile action"...I simply said you wouldn't know one if it hit you in the nose. Try to get your own hostile actions right the next time and there won't be any confusion. There's no confusion on MY part. If you feel threatened, why don't you go right ahead and print off those threads and stop by the local PD to file a complaint. Heck...go ahead and stop byt the FBI since this crosses state lines... Then when required to respond, I'll bring along YOUR stuff, including your "weasel" wordsmithing, wanton deceit and blatant lying and overt attempts to make false accusations of your own. Oh...and I'll being along the ENTIRE post that you continue to misquote from vis-a-vis "slashed tires", etc, just so they can get "the big picture" on what your TRUE character is all about. That ought to set your reputation with law enforcement. It's sure done it here. Steven J. Robeson, I have no reputation with law enforcement. Go to "the authorities" with your lame claims as you have previously suggested you might, and when I am done with you, you WILL have a reputation with law enforcement. But you bear watching. For what? Rubbing your nose in your newsgroup droppings here...?!?! BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Then why do you use weasel words and play games? Then why have YOU not admonished Lennie for his sick parody? Haven't you done so? The question was not about me, Brain. The question was about YOU. I thought it was about you using weasel words and playing games. I asked YOU why YOU hadn't taken the time to add your comments about Lennie's sick parody. Didn't you address the issue? |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Then why do you use weasel words and play games? Then why have YOU not admonished Lennie for his sick parody? Haven't you done so? The question was not about me, Brain. The question was about YOU. I thought it was about you using weasel words and playing games. Nope...It's you, baby..all you... I asked YOU why YOU hadn't taken the time to add your comments about Lennie's sick parody. Didn't you address the issue? It's not about me. It's about why you make insinuations about "double standards" and then enact one of your own on an issue that one would pesume to be of some personal interest to you...in as much as you espouse concern over Veteran's issues. We've not heard a clear and definitive statement from you to Lennie on his vile parody of the Tomb of the Unknowns. No cajones to take a stand? Or do you "admire" Lennie for this too...??? Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Then why do you use weasel words and play games? Then why have YOU not admonished Lennie for his sick parody? Haven't you done so? The question was not about me, Brain. The question was about YOU. I thought it was about you using weasel words and playing games. Nope...It's you, baby..all you... I asked YOU why YOU hadn't taken the time to add your comments about Lennie's sick parody. Didn't you address the issue? It's not about me. It's about why you make insinuations about "double standards" and then enact one of your own on an issue that one would pesume to be of some personal interest to you...in as much as you espouse concern over Veteran's issues. We've not heard a clear and definitive statement from you to Lennie on his vile parody of the Tomb of the Unknowns. No cajones to take a stand? Or do you "admire" Lennie for this too...??? Steve, K4YZ Had you read my previous comments, you wouldn't be making such absurd statements. Or maybe you would anyway. |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: We've not heard a clear and definitive statement from you to Lennie on his vile parody of the Tomb of the Unknowns. No cajones to take a stand? Or do you "admire" Lennie for this too...??? Had you read my previous comments, you wouldn't be making such absurd statements. Or maybe you would anyway. Still no CLEAR, definitive statement by you. Lot's of "...well, didn't you tell him?.." And YOU ahve the temerity to call ME "dodge". Thanks for the proof of your cowardice, Brain...Nothing I didn't expect. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: We've not heard a clear and definitive statement from you to Lennie on his vile parody of the Tomb of the Unknowns. No cajones to take a stand? Or do you "admire" Lennie for this too...??? Had you read my previous comments, you wouldn't be making such absurd statements. Or maybe you would anyway. Still no CLEAR, definitive statement by you. Lot's of "...well, didn't you tell him?.." And YOU ahve the temerity to call ME "dodge". And you "have" the gall to criticize anybody else, dodging Nursie? Thanks for the proof of your cowardice, Brain...Nothing I didn't expect. Thanks for the proof you are a ****ing illiterate fat ****, Nursie, but maybe your girdle is really too tight for you and causes you to misspell "have." |
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bb wrote: Civil discourse with Steven J. Robeson K4YZ is not possible if you have an opposing opinion. Untrue. Others here have said as much. You are, yet again, uttering an untruthful statement. His opinion is right. Your opinion is wrong. So far, Brain, you've not provided an ounce of substantiation for any of your "opinions", and when your "assertions" have been proven wrong, you just DODGE acknowledging your error. Brian P Burke is a known chronic liar. Beware. Steve, K4YZ |
Nomen Nescio wrote: In article .com "K4YZ" wrote: bb wrote: Civil discourse with Steven J. Robeson K4YZ is not possible if you have an opposing opinion. Untrue. Others here have said as much. You are, yet again, uttering an untruthful statement. Who's "Others", Nursie, you are a weell-known liar and asshole. His opinion is right. Your opinion is wrong. Agreed. His tiny litle pea brain limits him. Too bad it isn't as big as that gut he has to hide with a girdle. So far, Brain, you've not provided an ounce of substantiation for any of your "opinions", and when your "assertions" have been proven wrong, you just DODGE acknowledging your error. And you have yet to prove anything you say, Nursie. Brian P Burke is a known chronic liar. Beware. That's rich coming from a well-known liar like you, Nursie. Where's the documentation on that, Nursie? The Dodgeful Arter keeps making my point. |
bb wrote: The Dodgeful Arter keeps making my point. The only point made here, Brain, is that you're a liar. You continue to prove that. It's in your realm to DISprove it, but all you do is try to wordsmith your way out of it. Sorry. Google archives refer. No matter what name you hide behind. It really is THAT simple. Steve, K4YZ |
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