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"Professional Engineer" Lennie Gets His "Professional" History Wrong
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There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947. Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No company... So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in 1940...?!?! Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola. |
Fritz Wuehler wrote: In article . com "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: from: K4YZ on Jun 6, 3:00 am "Completely?" Tsk, tsk. No again. MARS was originally begun as a very small-scale (and low budget) ARMY project back in 1925...more for publicity for the Army than any real radio improvement (Motorola did more of that in 1940 than any bunch of amateur volunteers). I am wondering how THAT happened, Lennie. There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947. Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No company... So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in 1940...?!?! More lies, Nursie? Where's your documentation? Try this: http://www.motorola.com/content/0,,115-110,00.html DUH??! |
Fritz Wuehler wrote: More lies, Nursie? Where's your documentation? Excuse me... Are you even a person? Steve, K4YZ |
robert casey wrote: There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947. Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No company... So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in 1940...?!?! Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola. Absolutely correct, Mr Casey. From: http://www.hitechwireless.cc/html/history.html To wit: The company was founded by Paul V. Galvin as the Galvin Manufacturing Corporation, in Chicago, Illinois, in 1928. Its first product was a "battery eliminator," allowing consumers to operate radios directly from household current instead of the batteries supplied with early models. In the 1930s, the company successfully commercialized car radios under the brand name "Motorola," a word suggesting sound in motion. During this period, the company also established home radio and police radio departments; instituted pioneering personnel programs; and began national advertising. The name of the company was changed to Motorola, Inc., in 1947. UNQUOTE 73 Steve, K4YZ |
From: Fritz Wuehler on Jun 8, 2:44 pm
"K4YZ" wrote: wrote: from: K4YZ on Jun 6, 3:00 am "Completely?" Tsk, tsk. No again. MARS was originally begun as a very small-scale (and low budget) ARMY project back in 1925...more for publicity for the Army than any real radio improvement (Motorola did more of that in 1940 than any bunch of amateur volunteers). I am wondering how THAT happened, Lennie. There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947. Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No company... So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in 1940...?!?! More lies, Nursie? Where's your documentation? Fritz, this self-styled "radio history expert" doesn't have much in the way of documentation for anything. Galvin Manufacturing Co. was founded in 1928 by brothers Paul and Joe Galvin, buying out a small company that made "battery eliminators." In Chicago, IL, long their corporate home. In 1930 Paul Galvin coined the company logo "Motorola." Galvin had gotten into making automobile radios. The MOTOROLA logo had become more common in the pre-WW2 electronics industry than "Galvin." Not an easy task to do that right when the Great Depression had begun in the USA. On an invite from the Army to observe radio use in manuever exercises, Paul Galvin and a few high staff expressed their thoughts that they could improve small-unit radio capability. The Army invited them to try. The result was the SCR-536 "handie-talkie" which was contracted for in 1940. Although working on HF and using a battery two-thirds the size of the one-hand radio, it came into widespread military use just prior to the USA's entry into WW2. Even the Secret Service used them in protecting FDR in 1940. Galvin Mfg had already gotten into making vehicular radios for police prior to 1940 and Paul Galvin offered Dan Noble (then working for Link) a position to improve police radios with FM. As the USA was forced into WW2, and the production of the first HT was ramped up, Noble did most of the design of the first "walkie-talkie", the SCR-300/BC-1000 manpack transceiver that operated at VHF, not HF. The first operational units of that were delivered in 1943. All of the above can be found in Paul Galvin's biography (which I had in hardbound form). Some of it is on the MOTOROLA corporate website. Galvin Mfg also got into the little-publicized, but massive quartz crystal unit fabrication during WW2, winding up as the central "control point" for the efforts of up to 60 large and small quartz crystal unit fabricators. Quartz crystal unit production had the second highest priority during WW2 in the USA, second only to the Manhattan Project. Total production between 1942 and 1945 was one million units per month. [source: Documentation on the Corning Frequency Control website, mainly a paper by a retired PhD who worked on them and published after WW2 in an engineering journal] Galvin Manufacturing Co. changed its corporate title to MOTOROLA in 1947. That was just pro forma action since the MOTOROLA logo was now well known in the industry and had been in existance for 17 years. In 1949 MOTOROLA established their Arizona semiconductor division and became one of the largest of the semiconductor makers. The corporate name of MOTOROLA and the later stylized M in a circle are both familiar to anyone involved with radio communications or semiconductors in the electronics industry. MOTOROLA is a familiar name seen by TV watchers or football games and NASCAR races. MOTOROLA is well-known among public safety communicators since the brand has been out in public since 1930. You have to understand that Gonad the Librarian just doesn't have anything worthwhile in electronics industry experience. He wasn't born when MOTOROLA became a legal corporate identity. All he really wants to do in here is FIGHT with those he doesn't like. He is not good at that since he doesn't have either the knowledge or the experience beyond his amateur radio certificate (suitable for framing). For example, he will not know that ON Semiconductor is a separate corporate structure spun off of Motorola Semiconductor, which itself was established in 1949...but, he does know the year in which Galvin Manufacturing legally changed its name to MOTOROLA, did not move from its Chicago location in the process and only changed a lot of company letterheads and forms. So, he tries to FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, attempting some "humiliation" of others that he perceives as his "enemies." :-) Some wordplay on corporate identities is to be expected since Stebie da Wundermarine can't really top those of us who have been IN radio and electronics longer than he has been alive. His attempts at wordplay using (to him) foreign phrases do not work well, especially when he misspells the French "nes pas" as "nes pax" (exchaning a French word with Spanish word for "peace"). He does not recognize peace. A pun that is not, as Yoda might say. He should eat his gefilte fish and latkes in hopes that his digestion might improve by not shouting PUTZ! at his "enemies" so much. Kosher he is not. Oy, gevalt. |
"K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... robert casey wrote: There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947. Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No company... So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in 1940...?!?! Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola. Absolutely correct, Mr Casey. From: http://www.hitechwireless.cc/html/history.html To wit: The company was founded by Paul V. Galvin as the Galvin Manufacturing Corporation, in Chicago, Illinois, in 1928. Its first product was a "battery eliminator," allowing consumers to operate radios directly from household current instead of the batteries supplied with early models. In the 1930s, the company successfully commercialized car radios under the brand name "Motorola," a word suggesting sound in motion. During this period, the company also established home radio and police radio departments; instituted pioneering personnel programs; and began national advertising. The name of the company was changed to Motorola, Inc., in 1947. UNQUOTE 73 Steve, K4YZ Steve, Please don't mention 1947. I just had a birthday last month and I am feeling *very* antiquated LOL. I have been unable to learn new concepts, such as measuring your antenna impedance with a volt-ohm meter. I still cannot understand the concept of a class A amplifier being 50% efficient (taught by the U.S. Navy in 1967). I had a problem even as a youngster when a teacher told me that there was a complex formula for finding resonant frequency, but L times C was close enough. I was 14 at the time and already apparently suffering the beginning of Altzheimer's. I admit to having some problems with The Calculus but managed some months ago to borrow a book and get back a bit of what I had forgotten. Unbelieveably, The Calculus appears to work, but how can it when my algebra is so poor that I am unable to transform F=L*C into F=1/(6.28*sqr(L*C))? I can only assume that I have memorized many things in error. I don't generally use calculators like many do to make change (I caught an error one time a kid did use a calculator), so I suspect my basic addition, subraction, multiplication, and division have not disappeared. Obviously, however, my idea of equations must be in error. Many folks state that pi is equal to 3. Well, that still doesn't work for resonant frequency = L times C. So, in any case, Steve, welcome to the club. You are likely as brain dead as I. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA ps - try to avoid these kind of threads LOL |
Jim Hampton wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... robert casey wrote: There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947. Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No company... So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in 1940...?!?! Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola. Absolutely correct, Mr Casey. From: http://www.hitechwireless.cc/html/history.html To wit: The company was founded by Paul V. Galvin as the Galvin Manufacturing Corporation, in Chicago, Illinois, in 1928. Its first product was a "battery eliminator," allowing consumers to operate radios directly from household current instead of the batteries supplied with early models. In the 1930s, the company successfully commercialized car radios under the brand name "Motorola," a word suggesting sound in motion. During this period, the company also established home radio and police radio departments; instituted pioneering personnel programs; and began national advertising. The name of the company was changed to Motorola, Inc., in 1947. UNQUOTE 73 Steve, K4YZ Steve, Please don't mention 1947. I just had a birthday last month and I am feeling *very* antiquated LOL. I have been unable to learn new concepts, such as measuring your antenna impedance with a volt-ohm meter. I still cannot understand the concept of a class A amplifier being 50% efficient (taught by the U.S. Navy in 1967). I had a problem even as a youngster when a teacher told me that there was a complex formula for finding resonant frequency, but L times C was close enough. I was 14 at the time and already apparently suffering the beginning of Altzheimer's. I admit to having some problems with The Calculus but managed some months ago to borrow a book and get back a bit of what I had forgotten. Unbelieveably, The Calculus appears to work, but how can it when my algebra is so poor that I am unable to transform F=L*C into F=1/(6.28*sqr(L*C))? I can only assume that I have memorized many things in error. I don't generally use calculators like many do to make change (I caught an error one time a kid did use a calculator), so I suspect my basic addition, subraction, multiplication, and division have not disappeared. Obviously, however, my idea of equations must be in error. Many folks state that pi is equal to 3. Well, that still doesn't work for resonant frequency = L times C. So, in any case, Steve, welcome to the club. You are likely as brain dead as I. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA ps - try to avoid these kind of threads LOL At this point, an honorable person would not only admit that they were wrong, but would apologize to the person they were claiming was wrong, ---and--- apologize to that person for starting yet another slam thread. Let's see what Steve does. |
Unbelieveably, The Calculus appears to work, but how can it when my algebra is so poor that I am unable to transform F=L*C into F=1/(6.28*sqr(L*C))? I enjoyed calculus so much I took it twice. :-) Now if you actually learned enough to actually *USE* calculus to solve something, you're one leg up on me.... :-) |
bb wrote: Jim Hampton wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... robert casey wrote: There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947. Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No company... So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in 1940...?!?! Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola. Absolutely correct, Mr Casey. From: http://www.hitechwireless.cc/html/history.html To wit: The company was founded by Paul V. Galvin as the Galvin Manufacturing Corporation, in Chicago, Illinois, in 1928. Its first product was a "battery eliminator," allowing consumers to operate radios directly from household current instead of the batteries supplied with early models. In the 1930s, the company successfully commercialized car radios under the brand name "Motorola," a word suggesting sound in motion. During this period, the company also established home radio and police radio departments; instituted pioneering personnel programs; and began national advertising. The name of the company was changed to Motorola, Inc., in 1947. UNQUOTE 73 Steve, K4YZ Steve, Please don't mention 1947. I just had a birthday last month and I am feeling *very* antiquated LOL. I have been unable to learn new concepts, such as measuring your antenna impedance with a volt-ohm meter. I still cannot understand the concept of a class A amplifier being 50% efficient (taught by the U.S. Navy in 1967). I had a problem even as a youngster when a teacher told me that there was a complex formula for finding resonant frequency, but L times C was close enough. I was 14 at the time and already apparently suffering the beginning of Altzheimer's. I admit to having some problems with The Calculus but managed some months ago to borrow a book and get back a bit of what I had forgotten. Unbelieveably, The Calculus appears to work, but how can it when my algebra is so poor that I am unable to transform F=L*C into F=1/(6.28*sqr(L*C))? I can only assume that I have memorized many things in error. I don't generally use calculators like many do to make change (I caught an error one time a kid did use a calculator), so I suspect my basic addition, subraction, multiplication, and division have not disappeared. Obviously, however, my idea of equations must be in error. Many folks state that pi is equal to 3. Well, that still doesn't work for resonant frequency = L times C. So, in any case, Steve, welcome to the club. You are likely as brain dead as I. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA ps - try to avoid these kind of threads LOL At this point, an honorable person would not only admit that they were wrong, but would apologize to the person they were claiming was wrong, ---and--- apologize to that person for starting yet another slam thread. Let's see what Steve does. Apologize for what, Brain...?!?! Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References provided. Lennie was WRONG. Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose spindance to hide behind his error... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that! It was no "slam thread". Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional". Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed him his error. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: Jim Hampton wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... robert casey wrote: There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947. Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No company... So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in 1940...?!?! Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola. Absolutely correct, Mr Casey. From: http://www.hitechwireless.cc/html/history.html To wit: The company was founded by Paul V. Galvin as the Galvin Manufacturing Corporation, in Chicago, Illinois, in 1928. Its first product was a "battery eliminator," allowing consumers to operate radios directly from household current instead of the batteries supplied with early models. In the 1930s, the company successfully commercialized car radios under the brand name "Motorola," a word suggesting sound in motion. During this period, the company also established home radio and police radio departments; instituted pioneering personnel programs; and began national advertising. The name of the company was changed to Motorola, Inc., in 1947. UNQUOTE 73 Steve, K4YZ Steve, Please don't mention 1947. I just had a birthday last month and I am feeling *very* antiquated LOL. I have been unable to learn new concepts, such as measuring your antenna impedance with a volt-ohm meter. I still cannot understand the concept of a class A amplifier being 50% efficient (taught by the U.S. Navy in 1967). I had a problem even as a youngster when a teacher told me that there was a complex formula for finding resonant frequency, but L times C was close enough. I was 14 at the time and already apparently suffering the beginning of Altzheimer's. I admit to having some problems with The Calculus but managed some months ago to borrow a book and get back a bit of what I had forgotten. Unbelieveably, The Calculus appears to work, but how can it when my algebra is so poor that I am unable to transform F=L*C into F=1/(6.28*sqr(L*C))? I can only assume that I have memorized many things in error. I don't generally use calculators like many do to make change (I caught an error one time a kid did use a calculator), so I suspect my basic addition, subraction, multiplication, and division have not disappeared. Obviously, however, my idea of equations must be in error. Many folks state that pi is equal to 3. Well, that still doesn't work for resonant frequency = L times C. So, in any case, Steve, welcome to the club. You are likely as brain dead as I. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA ps - try to avoid these kind of threads LOL At this point, an honorable person would not only admit that they were wrong, but would apologize to the person they were claiming was wrong, ---and--- apologize to that person for starting yet another slam thread. Let's see what Steve does. Apologize for what, Brain...?!?! Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References provided. Lennie was WRONG. Hi! Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose spindance to hide behind his error... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that! It was no "slam thread". They're all slam threads. Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional". Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed him his error. Steve, K4YZ Poor Steve. Hanging by a thread again. |
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bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References provided. Lennie was WRONG. Hi! The possibility exists that he was hi when he made the error, yes. One dose too many of Geritol, no doubt. Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose spindance to hide behind his error... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that! It was no "slam thread". They're all slam threads. No there not. Not one bit of deception or error, Brian...He was wrong. Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional". Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed him his error. Steve, K4YZ Poor Steve. Hanging by a thread again. The "thread" is around Lennie's throat. Steve, K4YZ |
wrote: wrote: From: Fritz Wuehler on Jun 8, 2:44 pm "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: from: K4YZ on Jun 6, 3:00 am In 1930 Paul Galvin coined the company logo "Motorola." Galvin had gotten into making automobile radios. Lots of "olas" in those days. Radiola, Audiola, Victrola. Only Motorola survives. Lennie was probably involved in "pay" ola. Like to swig "Coke-Cola". Kinda like the "tron" and "istor" words. The MOTOROLA logo had become more common in the pre-WW2 electronics industry than "Galvin." There was no Motorola company then. Uh-yup. (Snip to...) You have to understand that Gonad the Librarian just doesn't have anything worthwhile in electronics industry experience. Ah, here we go, name calling and personal attack by Len. SOP "Gonad the Librarian"...?!?! Lennie has got nerve making such anal-ogies considering his propensity for trying to out-trivia everyone else in this forum on numerous issues. As for "worthwhile experience" in the "electronics industry"...Well, I just didn't need any to pull the carpet out from under you, Lennie... Sheeeesh. Steve, K4YZ |
From: "bb" on Thurs 9 Jun 2005 03:36
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: Jim Hampton wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... Let's see what Steve does. Apologize for what, Brain...?!?! Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References provided. Lennie was WRONG. Hi! Well, the self-styled mighty warrior, self-proclaimed "expert" on corporate structures, is (as usual) strutting double-time in this barnyard crowing at his cackling best about "rightness." :-) MOTOROLA Corporation existed as such BEFORE the Last Action Hero was even conceived. [some doubt his conception, saying he was simply issued out of a USMC supply room long ago] The MOTOROLA logo was synonymous with "Galvin" before WW2. Anyone IN the electronics-radio industry KNOWS of MOTOROLA, both as a corporation and as a brand name, a logo. Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose spindance to hide behind his error... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that! It was no "slam thread". They're all slam threads. Mighty WARRIOR Stebie thinks EVERYONE is out to "get him" and must retaliate with slam threads. His personalities are paranoid. Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional". Poor Stebie, the Last Action Hero...claims to know all about "professional" employment in radio-electronics. This self- proclaimed knows-all-about-engineering has all the "experience" of less than a half year as a purchasing agent. Tsk, tsk. Stebie knows the "facts" about Motorola...because he went to www.motorola.com and cut-and-pasted some corporate history there. He waves that in "triumph" as if that is "vinidcation" of his imaginary dispute about "greatness." Tsk. I don't "claim" to be a professional. I've just worked in radio-electronics since 1952, getting paid real money for such work. The IRS knows that, the Franchise Tax Board of California knows that, the DoD knows that, the FBI knows that, the IEEE knows that, the ACM knows that, the County of Los Angeles knows that. Stebie, he don't know that. I've worked for RCA Corporation. RCA no longer exists except as a logo now owned by Thompson CSF. RCA Corporation was ONCE NOT "RCA Corporation." Amazing but true. I've worked for Hughes Aircraft Corporation. That was once "Hughes Tool Company." Hughes Aircraft NEVER made aircraft (except some missles, the airframes contracted to another). Hughes Aircraft Corporation is no longer, having gone through a number of owners in recent decades. Hughes Aircraft was once belonging to "Hughes Medical" and separate from Hughes Tool Co., that firm that DOES make aircraft. Amazing but true. I've worked for the Rocketdyne Division of Rockwell International. That was once the Rocketdyne Division of North American Aviation. Boeing Aircraft Company purchased Rocketdyne Division several years ago. The Rocketdyne Division did not exist in WW2. Amazing but true. I've worked for contractors to JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory) that was once a part of California Institute of Technology, a university in Pasadena, CA. "JPL" became a separate legal entity and later became part of NASA. Not amazing but true. I've worked for Micro-Radionics, Inc., a small Van Nuys, CA, corporation that was once a division of Kearfott Corporation, a maker of servo and synchro motors. "MRI" was later purchased by Systron-Donner and then resold to another. The corporation CHANGES in the radio-electronics world are an amazing mass of names and players that few outside of the industry can follow in their lineage. MOTOROLA as a corporation has existed since 1947...long before Stebie was a frown on his pediatrician's brow. MOTOROLA as a corporation, as a logo, as a symbol of a major player in radio and semiconductors is LONG KNOWN to all of us who work or have worked in the industry. Along comes a wounded little batty rooster called Stebie who has very little REAL industry experience who got his pukey little amateur feathers all disarranged by COMMON INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE known by thousands of others. Little Stebie don' wanna do nuttin' but FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. He be very amateur "extra" and "mighty warrior" (of the keyboard, of the mouth) an' wanna be "victor." Stebie new "victor talking machine." Play round flat plastic discs with dull needle, skipping tracks, making clickey sounds. Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed him his error. Poor Steve. Hanging by a thread again. Stebie is nothing more than a poseur in radio-electronics, a dink who self-defines his "might" and "expertise" but still comes up as a dink. Stebie is one sick puppy. Too much HATE, too much ANGER, no sense. Stebie want world black and white, what he say is ONLY truth. Not so. Stebie is black mark on today's radio amateur. |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References provided. Lennie was WRONG. Hi! The possibility exists that he was hi when he made the error, yes. One dose too many of Geritol, no doubt. Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose spindance to hide behind his error... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that! It was no "slam thread". They're all slam threads. No there not. Not one bit of deception or error, Brian...He was wrong. Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional". Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed him his error. Steve, K4YZ Poor Steve. Hanging by a thread again. The "thread" is around Lennie's throat. Steve, K4YZ You're a joke of a man. |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References provided. Lennie was WRONG. Hi! The possibility exists that he was hi when he made the error, yes. One dose too many of Geritol, no doubt. Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose spindance to hide behind his error... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that! It was no "slam thread". They're all slam threads. No there not. Not one bit of deception or error, Brian...He was wrong. Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional". Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed him his error. Steve, K4YZ Poor Steve. Hanging by a thread again. The "thread" is around Lennie's throat. Steve, K4YZ You're a joke of a man. You shouldn't sit in front of mirrors while on teh computer, Brain. You're the one with the truthfulness and character issues...Not me. What are you going to say to your kids when they confront you with this stuff one day? You can make excuses, but they'll be able to read for themselves. Steve, K4YZ |
From: "bb" on Thurs 9 Jun 2005 18:16
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed him his error. Steve, K4YZ Poor Steve. Hanging by a thread again. The "thread" is around Lennie's throat. You're a joke of a man. We shouldn't joke about the mentally ill such as Stebie. Nursie wants I should get a stroke. Unlikely. I could get a terminal case of hiccups after laughing so hard at Stebie's posturing and THREATS! :-) Poor sick puppy, he should be put away... |
wrote: From: "bb" on Thurs 9 Jun 2005 03:36 K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: Jim Hampton wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... Let's see what Steve does. Apologize for what, Brain...?!?! Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References provided. Lennie was WRONG. Hi! Well, the self-styled mighty warrior, self-proclaimed "expert" on corporate structures, is (as usual) strutting double-time in this barnyard crowing at his cackling best about "rightness." You were wrong, Lennie. One of many, many errors you've promulgated. And again another lie. Please present the post wherein I claimed "expert" on corporate structures. MOTOROLA Corporation existed as such BEFORE the Last Action Hero was even conceived. Yes...it was. In 1947. Not 1940, as you suggested. You were wrong. The MOTOROLA logo was synonymous with "Galvin" before WW2. Uh huh. And that's ALL it was...a logo...A model name for automobile radios and first generation mobile 2-way radios for business and government. But NOT a company. Anyone IN the electronics-radio industry KNOWS of MOTOROLA, both as a corporation and as a brand name, a logo. Uh huh. And anyone who was paying attention (like I was...) knows that "Motorola", as the name of a corporation, didn't exist until 1947. Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose spindance to hide behind his error... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that! It was no "slam thread". They're all slam threads. Mighty WARRIOR Stebie thinks EVERYONE is out to "get him" and must retaliate with slam threads. His personalities are paranoid. No plural of personalities here, Lennie. YOU seem to have some issues though...One of your personalities demands strict adherence to your rhetoric and expects instantaneous begging for forgiveness when you "call them" on an error. Your OTHER personality insists that he is not responsible for his errors, that having found one was allegedly an act of hatred or anger, and is somehow flawed. The fact remains, however, that "Galvin" was the company you were refering to, regardless of what their name later became. Details, Lennie... Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional". Poor Stebie, the Last Action Hero...claims to know all about "professional" employment in radio-electronics. This self- proclaimed knows-all-about-engineering has all the "experience" of less than a half year as a purchasing agent. Tsk, tsk. Still waiting for you to ante up the post wherein you alledge that I made those claims, Lennie. (DOS Hint: Didn't happen. Leonard H. Anderson is again lying to hide his own shortcomings) Stebie knows the "facts" about Motorola...because he went to www.motorola.com and cut-and-pasted some corporate history there. He waves that in "triumph" as if that is "vinidcation" of his imaginary dispute about "greatness." It is a fact. And I guess you didn't pay any attentionas to where THAT came from (wasn't motorola.com) Tsk. I don't "claim" to be a professional. Sure you do. Why are you again lying? I've just worked in radio-electronics since 1952, getting paid real money for such work. The IRS knows that, the Franchise Tax Board of California knows that, the DoD knows that, the FBI knows that, the IEEE knows that, the ACM knows that, the County of Los Angeles knows that. Stebie, he don't know that. Why should I..?!?! You screwed up a very simple bit of "electronics industry" trivia that a "man" of your years service shouldn't have screwed up... I've worked for RCA Corporation. RCA no longer exists except as a logo now owned by Thompson CSF. RCA Corporation was ONCE NOT "RCA Corporation." Amazing but true. Yep. But not germane to this thread. I've worked for Hughes Aircraft Corporation...(SNIP) Good for you. But not germane to this thread. I've worked for the Rocketdyne Division of Rockwell International. Woooieeeee...Still not germane. I've worked for contractors to JPL...(SNIP) I am sure you did. They're still looking for the brooms you were assigned. I've worked for Micro-Radionics, Inc...(SNIP) How is that germane to your screw-up about Motorola, Lennie? The corporation CHANGES in the radio-electronics world are an amazing mass of names and players that few outside of the industry can follow in their lineage. MOTOROLA as a corporation has existed since 1947...long before Stebie was a frown on his pediatrician's brow. MOTOROLA as a corporation, as a logo, as a symbol of a major player in radio and semiconductors is LONG KNOWN to all of us who work or have worked in the industry. Well then, There we have it. Since I wasn't born in 1947, I can't possibly know that Motorola wasn't a "corporation" in 1940... Whoooooooooooooooooooooops! I DO ! ! ! ! And YOU screwed it up. Whew! Along comes a wounded little batty rooster called Stebie who has very little REAL industry experience who got his pukey little amateur feathers all disarranged by COMMON INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE known by thousands of others. Known by thousands of others, BUT SCREWED UP BY LENNIE ANDERSON! Stings, doesn't it, Your Putziness...?!?! Little Stebie don' wanna do nuttin' but FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. It's all YOU want to do, Lennie. You continue to post in a forum in which you have no vested interest or practical experience, and post lies, drivvel and deceitful mistruths. Stebie want world black and white, what he say is ONLY truth. In this case it IS "black and white". There was NO corporation named "Motorola" in 1940. You were wrong. Not so. Is so. You screwed up...Now you want to stomp your feet and blame everyone else EXCEPT yourself for the error. Stebie is black mark on today's radio amateur. Nice try. You're busted...Again... LenIamAchronicLiarAndDefilerOfDeceas... Steve, K4YZ Putz. |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References provided. Lennie was WRONG. Hi! The possibility exists that he was hi when he made the error, yes. One dose too many of Geritol, no doubt. Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose spindance to hide behind his error... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that! It was no "slam thread". They're all slam threads. No there not. Not one bit of deception or error, Brian...He was wrong. Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional". Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed him his error. Steve, K4YZ Poor Steve. Hanging by a thread again. The "thread" is around Lennie's throat. Steve, K4YZ You're a joke of a man. You shouldn't sit in front of mirrors while on teh computer, Brain. You're the one with the truthfulness and character issues...Not me. What are you going to say to your kids when they confront you with this stuff one day? When they say, "Daddy, who's this idiot Robeson who's always worried about other people's kids and not his own? Who's always itching for a fight?" |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References provided. Lennie was WRONG. Hi! The possibility exists that he was hi when he made the error, yes. One dose too many of Geritol, no doubt. Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose spindance to hide behind his error... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that! It was no "slam thread". They're all slam threads. No there not. Not one bit of deception or error, Brian...He was wrong. Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional". Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed him his error. Steve, K4YZ Poor Steve. Hanging by a thread again. The "thread" is around Lennie's throat. Steve, K4YZ You're a joke of a man. You shouldn't sit in front of mirrors while on teh computer, Brain. You're the one with the truthfulness and character issues...Not me. What are you going to say to your kids when they confront you with this stuff one day? When they say, "Daddy, who's this idiot Robeson who's always worried about other people's kids and not his own? Mine are taken care of, Brain. They are not lied to, about, or kept in the dark...Like yours... Who's always itching for a fight?" That would be you. Seems you have a penchant for getting yourself into situations that require lengthy and snivvelling efforts to get yourself out from under. If you'd just tell the truth in the first place or learn how to express an opinion as opposed to stating something as "fact", you'd be a lot happier. No doubt they'll wonder "WTF"...But they'll dig...and they'll find out... Steve, K4YZ |
Why even respond to Lennie? Why encourage him and waste your time? Leave the septegenarian to his own devices. Nobody in this group thinks more highly of Lennie than....Lennie. |
Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose spindance to hide behind his error... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that! If you'd just tell the truth in the first place or learn how to express an opinion as opposed to stating something as "fact", you'd be a lot happier. No doubt they'll wonder "WTF"...But they'll dig...and they'll find out... Steve, K4YZ //// Lennie joined the IBEW waaaaayyy back when he was fresh out of trade school. That makes him a "professional". |
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