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I and the OM (who is our local club's VHF/UHF SSB
guru) have worked hard at trying to get Techs involved with something
other
than repeater FM.

Why?


Because they have expressed dissatisfaction with repeater FM.

While we have had some modest success, it's only a small
percentage of the Techs who have jumped into these waters.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Have you asked them why they are reluctant to jump into those waters?


They are unwilling to commit to the equipment until they have their General,
not realizing how much fun they can have in the meantime.

Since they've not jumped in, does that change your attitude about them?


Nope, we just keep trying to find ways to let them know that there is much
more available to them than they realize.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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[snip]

I and the OM (who is our local club's VHF/UHF SSB
guru) have worked hard at trying to get Techs involved with something
other
than repeater FM.

Why?


Because they have expressed dissatisfaction with repeater FM.

Who hasn't?

While we have had some modest success, it's only a small
percentage of the Techs who have jumped into these waters.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Have you asked them why they are reluctant to jump into those waters?

They are unwilling to commit to the equipment until they have their General,
not realizing how much fun they can have in the meantime.

I was told, when Novice Enhancement came along, not to pick up a
microphone because I would never get good at the Morse Code and
advance.

Since they've not jumped in, does that change your attitude about them?


Nope, we just keep trying to find ways to let them know that there is much
more available to them than they realize.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Fair enough. Don't overdo it though, they might think you are "pushy."

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I was told, when Novice Enhancement came along, not to pick up a
microphone because I would never get good at the Morse Code and
advance.


That was good advice. I did the same thing. I had my Novice for 3 months,
skipped the Technician, and got the General. I could have got on 2m AM as
a Novice. I had a Gonset II on load from Civil Defense. I flat refused to
do so until I got the General. Glad I did.

Dan/W4NTI

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I was told, when Novice Enhancement came along, not to pick up a
microphone because I would never get good at the Morse Code and
advance.


That was good advice. I did the same thing. I had my Novice for 3 months,
skipped the Technician, and got the General. I could have got on 2m AM as
a Novice. I had a Gonset II on load from Civil Defense. I flat refused to
do so until I got the General. Glad I did.

Dan/W4NTI

Perhaps it was good advise in your case.

I tested for General. The Morse Code sped by at an incredible rate,
and I did not pass. In retrospect, this must have been the diff
between Morse Code and the advent of the ARRL VEC use of the Farnsworth
Code.

Anyway, the consolation prize was the Technician license. The Novice
enhancement came later, so was not a player.

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and I did not pass. In retrospect, this must have been the diff
between Morse Code and the advent of the ARRL VEC use of the Farnsworth
Code.

I'm not sure I understand that. As I remember the FCC universally used
those paper tape machines. And the method, although not called Farnsworth
that I can recall, was the same. I.E. Code sent at a fast rate with
spacing larger. This is the Farnsworth method.

Of course I may be wrong. But explain what you mean.

Dan/W4NTI