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So Much For "Digital Is Better"
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FORT PIERRE, S.D. - Johnny Smith has a new digital cell phone, but he relies on an older analog bag phone when he travels the wide open spaces in the western part of the state to line up cattle for sale at a local livestock auction. In rural areas where cellular towers are far apart, analog phones often work when digital models can't get a signal. With the Federal Communications Commission pushing the move to all-digital phone service across the country, Smith and others in rural areas are urging the agency to wait until more towers are built to improve service. "I carry a bag phone just because I can get so much better reception with it," Smith said. "If you're out in the middle of no place, it's nice to be able to call somebody." END QUOTE (Let's see how long it takes Lennie & Co to make this a "code test" or "Mighty Morsemen" thread....) Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: QUOTE FROM YAHOO! NEWS cutting all non ham content |
an_old_friend wrote: So Much for stevie staying near the topic K4YZ wrote: QUOTE FROM YAHOO! NEWS The topic, blockhead, is what the SUBJECT line was. As for what it is or is not, well, that was dues to YOU changing it. cutting all non ham content The implementation of digital over analog IS a policy debate, pumpkinhead. (The Idiot's Defense League won't let me call you an idiot anymore, so I'll expand the list of options.) Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: So Much for stevie staying near the topic K4YZ wrote: QUOTE FROM YAHOO! NEWS The topic, blockhead, is what the SUBJECT line was. the topic here is rec.radio.amateur.policy As for what it is or is not, well, that was dues to YOU changing it. nope I ever changed the title of the newsgroup cutting all non ham content The implementation of digital over analog IS a policy debate, pumpkinhead. (The Idiot's Defense League won't let me call you an idiot anymore, so I'll expand the list of options.) but one having nothing to do with ham radio Dafur is policy debate too as is Iraq but they have no place here either Steve, K4YZ |
an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: So Much for stevie staying near the topic K4YZ wrote: QUOTE FROM YAHOO! NEWS The topic, blockhead, is what the SUBJECT line was. the topic here is rec.radio.amateur.policy No, that's the title of the newsgroup...Not the "topic". However the implementation of digital technology IS a policy issue in ALL radio services with there being some reasonable doubt as to the efficacy of digital. As for what it is or is not, well, that was dues to YOU changing it. nope I ever changed the title of the newsgroup You changed the title of the thread. The thread is about digital technology. YOU changed it to "more stevie wandering" which has absolutely NO radio-related reference at all. So who's instigating the "personal attack" now, Markie? cutting all non ham content The implementation of digital over analog IS a policy debate, pumpkinhead. (The Idiot's Defense League won't let me call you an idiot anymore, so I'll expand the list of options.) but one having nothing to do with ham radio Sure it is. There's debate about the efficacy of digital over analog. Here's a perfect example of analog being superior to digital. Dafur is policy debate too as is Iraq but they have no place here either However digital communications techniques are. Please provide the newsgroup your Letter of Appointment that assigns you as "Apppointer Of Appropriatness for NG Discussions" Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote:
QUOTE FROM YAHOO! NEWS FORT PIERRE, S.D. - Johnny Smith has a new digital cell phone, but he relies on an older analog bag phone when he travels the wide open spaces in the western part of the state to line up cattle for sale at a local livestock auction. In rural areas where cellular towers are far apart, analog phones often work when digital models can't get a signal. With the Federal Communications Commission pushing the move to all-digital phone service across the country, Smith and others in rural areas are urging the agency to wait until more towers are built to improve service. I think that the biggest reason that they work better is not an inherent digital problem, but that the old analog phones tend to have a lot more power. IIRC some of the bag phones were pumping out 5 watts, some may have been more. Today's cell phones have been reduced in power quite a bit. "I carry a bag phone just because I can get so much better reception with it," Smith said. "If you're out in the middle of no place, it's nice to be able to call somebody." END QUOTE (Let's see how long it takes Lennie & Co to make this a "code test" or "Mighty Morsemen" thread....) And we'll also see that I have just disagreed with you, and I suspect that we'll continue to get along just fine, as usual...... - Mike KB3EIA - |
K4YZ wrote:
QUOTE FROM YAHOO! NEWS In rural areas where cellular towers are far apart, analog phones often work when digital models can't get a signal. With the Federal Communications Commission pushing the move to all-digital phone service across the country, Smith and others in rural areas are urging the agency to wait until more towers are built to improve service. I would be remiss if I didn't note that I do agree with you that digital is not better. While it performs well under many circumstances, it has it's own set of shortcomings. Certainly digital voice is of no particular advantage in Amateur Radio, from what I have seen so far. - Mike KB3EIA - |
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote: QUOTE FROM YAHOO! NEWS cutting all non ham content Digital voice is an acceptable ham radio topic, Mark. We may use it some day. And in it's present form, it isn't terribly applicable to Ham radio. The present systems available for us to use do sound very nice, giving "FM-like quality" (note that means quality akin to 2 meter FM, not Broadcast radio) with no noise. That part is good. But there are some nasty flaws, such as having to essentially have a "sked" in order to use it. If you don't catch the transmission from the beginning, you don't catch the transmission. There are no particular BW advantages either. Comparisons with the outside world and what they do and use are instructive, and in the end, on-topic. - Mike KB3EIA - |
One reason, the newer digital phone probably puts out 1/10 of the power of the
analog. Increase the power of the digital and the problem will most likely disappear... John "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... QUOTE FROM YAHOO! NEWS FORT PIERRE, S.D. - Johnny Smith has a new digital cell phone, but he relies on an older analog bag phone when he travels the wide open spaces in the western part of the state to line up cattle for sale at a local livestock auction. In rural areas where cellular towers are far apart, analog phones often work when digital models can't get a signal. With the Federal Communications Commission pushing the move to all-digital phone service across the country, Smith and others in rural areas are urging the agency to wait until more towers are built to improve service. "I carry a bag phone just because I can get so much better reception with it," Smith said. "If you're out in the middle of no place, it's nice to be able to call somebody." END QUOTE (Let's see how long it takes Lennie & Co to make this a "code test" or "Mighty Morsemen" thread....) Steve, K4YZ |
Michael Coslo wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: QUOTE FROM YAHOO! NEWS cutting all non ham content Digital voice is an acceptable ham radio topic, Mark. We may use it digital voice certainly is but the text did not conern digital voice or ham radio in the slightest some day. And in it's present form, it isn't terribly applicable to Ham radio. The present systems available for us to use do sound very nice, giving "FM-like quality" (note that means quality akin to 2 meter FM, not Broadcast radio) with no noise. That part is good. But there are some nasty flaws, such as having to essentially have a "sked" in order to use it. If you don't catch the transmission from the beginning, you don't catch the transmission. There are no particular BW advantages either. Comparisons with the outside world and what they do and use are instructive, and in the end, on-topic. but no comparsion was made by stevie just another of his troling attacks - Mike KB3EIA - |
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