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"John Smith" wrote in message ... Funny, Saddam Husein might have said those very words... John .... ....and let us not leave Adolph and Hillary out of this group. On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 04:28:59 +0000, David Stinson wrote: "There is little in the world more stupid than a majority." Alexander Hamilton |
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wrote: wrote: From: on Fri 19 Aug 2005 12:58 cut AT THE TIME (1998-1999), it was IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate the morse code test for ANY U.S. amateur radio license having privileges of operating below 30 MHz. The barrier was S25.5 of the ITU-R...colloquially known (or mis-known) as "the treaty." [there is NO specific treaty on morse code, only the honor system whereby all administrations are supposed to adhere to ITU decisions on standards and allocations] Nebbermind that the US of A has broken lots of treaties that Jimmy No-Serve has never protested. and not to mention that the Treaty never said what a code test was, by plain reading one could argue that sending a did and requiring the teste to Id it it as E would be a test cut |
Len:
I was just here "Twiddling With Amateur Things" and attempting to come up with an acronym for what I was doing, when I seen your post, pleasant diversion--your post... .... well, back to figuring out the acronym--you have any ideas? grin John On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:17:37 -0700, an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: From: on Fri 19 Aug 2005 12:58 cut AT THE TIME (1998-1999), it was IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate the morse code test for ANY U.S. amateur radio license having privileges of operating below 30 MHz. The barrier was S25.5 of the ITU-R...colloquially known (or mis-known) as "the treaty." [there is NO specific treaty on morse code, only the honor system whereby all administrations are supposed to adhere to ITU decisions on standards and allocations] Nebbermind that the US of A has broken lots of treaties that Jimmy No-Serve has never protested. and not to mention that the Treaty never said what a code test was, by plain reading one could argue that sending a did and requiring the teste to Id it it as E would be a test cut |
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From: on Aug 21, 12:10 pm
wrote: From: on Fri 19 Aug 2005 12:58 wrote: Brian, Jimmie wants to have everyone look at "second-hand" information, an encapsulated form. It is better to look at the REAL stuff, FIRST-HAND, which is readily available. Jimmie No-Serve has always wanted the truth filtered. When wasn't it so? Possibly before he left the Seminary? shrug AT THE TIME (1998-1999), it was IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate the morse code test for ANY U.S. amateur radio license having privileges of operating below 30 MHz. The barrier was S25.5 of the ITU-R...colloquially known (or mis-known) as "the treaty." [there is NO specific treaty on morse code, only the honor system whereby all administrations are supposed to adhere to ITU decisions on standards and allocations] Nebbermind that the US of A has broken lots of treaties that Jimmy No-Serve has never protested. ...nor protected. Conveniently missing is that the FCC's reasons for 90-53, of 1990, 15 years ago, was that it did not feel that any manual morse code skill test was any sort of qualifier for the Commission to grant an applicant a license. That established the reason-for-being of creation of the no-code- test Technician class license. But, but, but, that was because of some King that nobody cares about anymore. CAn't we just ignore him? I don't believe that "King of Jordan request of Papa Bush". Yurp had the "T-hams" well before 1990. The movement to eliminate the code test has beginning to gather momentum in 1980, a decade before. Also conventiently omitted is EIGHTEEN Petitions, nearly all varying in general "re-re-structuring" having none-some-all code testing. Absolutely NO CONSENSUS could be gained from reviewing all 18 Pentitions...even though the Commission had stated publicly several times that it wanted a consensus. The "amateur community" is highly polarized on the subject of code testing and remains so seven years after 1998. Highly polarized. But as long as the good EXTRAS are being satisfied... Yes, they have "lesser classes" to look down upon. also the 14th year of public access to the Internet (it went public in 1991). Far more citizens have access to the Internet in 2005 than they did in 1998. In 2003 the Census Bureau reported that one in five Americans had some form of Internet access then. Nearly all the Comments on WT Docket 05-235 are electronic rather than written on paper. So far, in the 23rd day of Comments on WT Docket 05-235, there are 1720 documents on file, about 75 a day on the average! Compare that to the 2300+ Comments of WT Docket 98-143 whose commentary period was extended for nearly six months after release. There's far more "traffic" on 05-235 than there was on 98-143. And there should be. Once NPRM 05-143 is included in the Federal Register (it wasn't up to last Friday), the floodgates may be opened. Mondays always have the most documents received; so far nothing has appeared on Saturdays or Sundays. The 458 Comments of 8 August 2005 was a veritable deluge. At time NOW, in 2005, the MAJORITY are very adamantly showing they ARE a majority. They are merely delusional. Unambiguous opinions (95.3% of all filings) Somehow that just isn't getting through to the coders. They just can't understand that the NCTA are sick and tired of that code test as some kind of "maintainer of a living museum of morsemanship." The NCTA are in the MAJORITY, no ifs, ands, buts, or conditionals. You'll always have your EXTRA Jims in the ARS. I'm sure. They see themselves as "an elite force" or whatever. The IARU, helped/nudged/influenced by international membership of NCI, was the main operator in wanting S25 of the ITU Radio Regulations re-written. [it was more than just S25.5 covering code testing] It was done in mid-July, 2003, over two years ago. Since then TWENTY-THREE other countries have dropped morse code testing for their radio amateurs licenses having below-30-MHz operating privileges. We need people like Carl Anderson pushing the buttons at the ARRL. I wish CARL STEVENSON all good fortune on getting elected. By all accounts, Carl GETS THINGS DONE. He was IN Geneva for WRC-03...while the League was still objecting to changing S25, back two years ago...they may not have fully recovered from that. The League needs some new blood...not reprocessed plasma. Kellie can vote NO on Carl Anderson if he wants to... :-) Summary: The FCC wants to drop code testing, the IARU wants to drop code testing, 23 nations already have done so, and a CLEAR MAJORITY of WT Docket 05-235 Commenters want it dropped. That CLEAR MAJORUTY is 2:1 for dropping it versus those wanting it retained. That CLEAR MAJORITY is 58% of those who have unambiguously commented. Jimmie wants to crawl back seven years and live there... :-( Much much further. His choice. The rest of the world continues on...to the future. the now |
wrote in message oups.com... [snip] We need people like Carl Anderson pushing the buttons at the ARRL. Who's Carl Anderson??? (I didn't see that name in the e-mail I got from Dave Sumner listing those who had been nominated for ARRL offices ...) 73, Carl - wk3c http://home.ptd.net/~wk3c |
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From: on Aug 21, 12:10 pm
wrote: From: on Fri 19 Aug 2005 12:58 wrote: Brian, Jimmie wants to have everyone look at "second-hand" information, an encapsulated form. It is better to look at the REAL stuff, FIRST-HAND, which is readily available. Jimmie No-Serve has always wanted the truth filtered. When wasn't it so? Possibly before he left the Seminary? shrug AT THE TIME (1998-1999), it was IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate the morse code test for ANY U.S. amateur radio license having privileges of operating below 30 MHz. The barrier was S25.5 of the ITU-R...colloquially known (or mis-known) as "the treaty." [there is NO specific treaty on morse code, only the honor system whereby all administrations are supposed to adhere to ITU decisions on standards and allocations] Nebbermind that the US of A has broken lots of treaties that Jimmy No-Serve has never protested. ...nor protected. Conveniently missing is that the FCC's reasons for 90-53, of 1990, 15 years ago, was that it did not feel that any manual morse code skill test was any sort of qualifier for the Commission to grant an applicant a license. That established the reason-for-being of creation of the no-code- test Technician class license. But, but, but, that was because of some King that nobody cares about anymore. CAn't we just ignore him? I don't believe that "King of Jordan request of Papa Bush". Yurp had the "T-hams" well before 1990. The movement to eliminate the code test has beginning to gather momentum in 1980, a decade before. Also conventiently omitted is EIGHTEEN Petitions, nearly all varying in general "re-re-structuring" having none-some-all code testing. Absolutely NO CONSENSUS could be gained from reviewing all 18 Pentitions...even though the Commission had stated publicly several times that it wanted a consensus. The "amateur community" is highly polarized on the subject of code testing and remains so seven years after 1998. Highly polarized. But as long as the good EXTRAS are being satisfied... Yes, they have "lesser classes" to look down upon. also the 14th year of public access to the Internet (it went public in 1991). Far more citizens have access to the Internet in 2005 than they did in 1998. In 2003 the Census Bureau reported that one in five Americans had some form of Internet access then. Nearly all the Comments on WT Docket 05-235 are electronic rather than written on paper. So far, in the 23rd day of Comments on WT Docket 05-235, there are 1720 documents on file, about 75 a day on the average! Compare that to the 2300+ Comments of WT Docket 98-143 whose commentary period was extended for nearly six months after release. There's far more "traffic" on 05-235 than there was on 98-143. And there should be. Once NPRM 05-143 is included in the Federal Register (it wasn't up to last Friday), the floodgates may be opened. Mondays always have the most documents received; so far nothing has appeared on Saturdays or Sundays. The 458 Comments of 8 August 2005 was a veritable deluge. At time NOW, in 2005, the MAJORITY are very adamantly showing they ARE a majority. They are merely delusional. Unambiguous opinions (95.3% of all filings) Somehow that just isn't getting through to the coders. They just can't understand that the NCTA are sick and tired of that code test as some kind of "maintainer of a living museum of morsemanship." The NCTA are in the MAJORITY, no ifs, ands, buts, or conditionals. You'll always have your EXTRA Jims in the ARS. I'm sure. They see themselves as "an elite force" or whatever. The IARU, helped/nudged/influenced by international membership of NCI, was the main operator in wanting S25 of the ITU Radio Regulations re-written. [it was more than just S25.5 covering code testing] It was done in mid-July, 2003, over two years ago. Since then TWENTY-THREE other countries have dropped morse code testing for their radio amateurs licenses having below-30-MHz operating privileges. We need people like Carl Anderson pushing the buttons at the ARRL. I wish CARL STEVENSON all good fortune on getting elected. By all accounts, Carl GETS THINGS DONE. He was IN Geneva for WRC-03...while the League was still objecting to changing S25, back two years ago...they may not have fully recovered from that. The League needs some new blood...not reprocessed plasma. Kellie can vote NO on Carl Anderson if he wants to... :-) Summary: The FCC wants to drop code testing, the IARU wants to drop code testing, 23 nations already have done so, and a CLEAR MAJORITY of WT Docket 05-235 Commenters want it dropped. That CLEAR MAJORUTY is 2:1 for dropping it versus those wanting it retained. That CLEAR MAJORITY is 58% of those who have unambiguously commented. Jimmie wants to crawl back seven years and live there... :-( Much much further. His choice. The rest of the world continues on...to the future. the now |
Len:
LOL!!! Yes, you are right, hit the wrong mouse button and attached my response to the wrong post... just lucky you found it and probably figured out it was a goof on my end--had not noticed until just now... Traveling Wave Amplifier Tubes sounds like an interesting subject, one which could really catch a guys interest! Especially after a drink or two and some soft music... more than likely, takes a lifetime to explore fully... grin John On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:49:08 -0700, LenAnderson wrote: That was mainly Brian Burke's and Mark Morgan's post, John. I spent a whole summer testing Travelling Wave Amplifier Tubes... know what you mean...:-) you men |
Carl R. Stevenson wrote: wrote in message oups.com... [snip] We need people like Carl Anderson pushing the buttons at the ARRL. Who's Carl Anderson??? (I didn't see that name in the e-mail I got from Dave Sumner listing those who had been nominated for ARRL offices ...) 73, Carl - wk3c http://home.ptd.net/~wk3c Brian Kelly/W3RV started a thread about your run for office. He referred to you as "Carl Anderson." I guess anything is possible after downing a 5L box of Almaden. |
wrote in message ups.com... Carl R. Stevenson wrote: wrote in message oups.com... [snip] We need people like Carl Anderson pushing the buttons at the ARRL. Who's Carl Anderson??? (I didn't see that name in the e-mail I got from Dave Sumner listing those who had been nominated for ARRL offices ...) 73, Carl - wk3c http://home.ptd.net/~wk3c Brian Kelly/W3RV started a thread about your run for office. He referred to you as "Carl Anderson." I guess anything is possible after downing a 5L box of Almaden. I did not :-) -- 73, Carl R. Stevenson - wk3c Grid Square FN20fm http://home.ptd.net/~wk3c ------------------------------------------------------ Life Member, ARRL Life Member, QCWA (31424) Member, TAPR Member, AMSAT-NA Member, LVARC (Lehigh Valley ARC) Member, Lehigh County ARES/RACES Fellow, The Radio Club of America Senior Member, IEEE Member, IEEE Standards Association Chair, IEEE 802.22 WG on Wireless Regional Area Networks ------------------------------------------------------ |
From: John Smith on Aug 21, 8:36 pm
Len: LOL!!! Traveling Wave Amplifier Tubes sounds like an interesting subject, one which could really catch a guys interest! Especially after a drink or two and some soft music... more than likely, takes a lifetime to explore fully... grin Ackshully, the industry acronym of TWT (Travelling Wave Tube) is for a very interesting late-era vacuum tube, a very broadband amplifier (at least an octave of bandwidth) having low internal noise and many milliWatts of output, low (around 50 Ohms) In/Out impedance and good from L-Band (1 to 2 GHz) on up to X-Band (8 to 12 GHz). The Quail decoy missle used them in several applications, one as a five-octave mixer (!). The Quail was made by MacDonnell (before the amalgamation with Douglas) and carried on the BUFFs. It could fly out along a predetermined course and act like one to three BUFFs to Soviet radar. Good insurance for SAC. The Electronic Warfare Labs at Ramo-Wooldridge Corporation made the avionics package. I tested those cylindrical tubes in the summer of '58, the same summer I decided on a major switch of majors into electronics engineering. TWTs are still being used in communications satellites as the octave bandwidth final amplifiers, ideal since many, many transponder channels can be amplified together, with very little intermodulation distortion. TWTs are one of the last family types of vacuum tube devices still useful and being used...the others are CRTs (becoming scarcer and scarcer), photo mulitpliers in optical instrumentation, the heart of Night Vision devices, microwave oven magnetrons, and high-power VHF-and-up transmitters. Oh, and, in a few rare cases, vacuum tubes are used by beepers in "state-of-the-art" vacuum tube transmitters they "designed" in the 1990s... BSEG I'm not going to touch the "other" acronym...would upset Kim and Dee too much...not to mention certain pansy posters in here. :-) ace nam |
Carl R. Stevenson wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Carl R. Stevenson wrote: wrote in message oups.com... [snip] We need people like Carl Anderson pushing the buttons at the ARRL. Who's Carl Anderson??? (I didn't see that name in the e-mail I got from Dave Sumner listing those who had been nominated for ARRL offices ...) 73, Carl - wk3c http://home.ptd.net/~wk3c Brian Kelly/W3RV started a thread about your run for office. He referred to you as "Carl Anderson." I guess anything is possible after downing a 5L box of Almaden. I did not :-) Nice! |
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