"Mike Coslo" wrote


hmmm, must not be enough people out there with my problem. The more BW I get,
the more my kid hogs up.

The vendors are waiting in the wings (Alcatel, ADC, Cisco, etc.) with equipment,
and they'd like nothing better than to provision a SONET OC3 (155.52MBPS)
termination to your home router! Now all you need to do is convince your
service provider to drag the glass under your street.

73, de Hans, K0HB

"KØHB" wrote

Now all you need to do is convince your service provider to drag the glass
under your street.

OBTW, I forgot to mention that the current going-rate for a base OC3 circuit
(glass lit at the provider end, but customer provides the premise termination
electronics) starts around $20K/mo. But hey, it'll haul about 100 T1 circuits
for your kids online gaming needs.

73, de Hans, K0HB

John Smith wrote:

Mike:

Look into NetLimiter, you can run it on any computer you wish to limit
upload/download speeds on, can also run it on a computer which is serving
as a router--it will do what you want I believe...

Thanks a lot, John. That might help restore family harmony! 8^)


- Mike KB3EIA -

Michael:

No problem. Everyone sharing a ISP with a teenager needs this survival
kit! The 28 day free evaluation is great!

For Linux rshaper (free of course) is great, just download, build, insert
the module "rshaper.o" into the kernel and use the "rshaperctl" app to
set, for example:
insmod rshaper.o
rshaperctl 192.168.X.XXX 5000 1
(above will limit upload/download to 5K limit--change 5000 to any value
needed--the 1 is the time factor on queuing, set as needed)

John

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:08:33 -0400, Michael Coslo wrote:

John Smith wrote:

Mike:

Look into NetLimiter, you can run it on any computer you wish to limit
upload/download speeds on, can also run it on a computer which is serving
as a router--it will do what you want I believe...

Thanks a lot, John. That might help restore family harmony! 8^)


- Mike KB3EIA -

From: "K0HB" on Fri 12 Aug 2005 05:11


"Mike Coslo" wrote

hmmm, must not be enough people out there with my problem. The more BW I get,
the more my kid hogs up.

The vendors are waiting in the wings (Alcatel, ADC, Cisco, etc.) with equipment,
and they'd like nothing better than to provision a SONET OC3 (155.52MBPS)
termination to your home router! Now all you need to do is convince your
service provider to drag the glass under your street.

...or drag it over his street, depending on the local municipal
code on above-ground or underground utilities. :-)

In this neighborhood, Comcast brings in broadband fiber to the
end of this street, converts the optical digital to analog
digital AND analog-analog, sends that along on two coax cables
on the utility poles for very local distribution. No problem,
been in there for three years and a bit more. Digital TV (the
basic routing) has plenty space for broadband downlink of high
speed data to serve several thousand potential data subscribers
in this neighborhood. Uplink data is a tad slower rate but
that may be for compatibility with the older analog system
still here, still providing some profitability.

But, in line with Miccolis' contention that EVERYTHING is
related to amateur radio (ergo, every permissible subject is
desired in his personal chat blog), Coslo's parental problem
is indicative of something else -

There IS a tremendous competition for activities of personal
entertainment against morsemanship contacts with faraway lands,
has been for years and years. Even with the POTS (Plain Old
Telephone System), the Internet provides a near-immediate
contact with MOST of the world WITHOUT the vagaries of the
ionospheric layers. Even staying within national boundaries,
complex interactive role-playing games are a rapidly-expanding
activity, popular with many age groups, "high-speed" or POTS
connection access. [instead, there is limited role-playing
of devout morsemen busy in their mental dungeons, trying to
slay the dragons of change in HF radio in here...:-) ]

The combination of encroaching middle-age angst and irritation
that "my kids don't appreciate MY activities" complaints should
be an indicative symptom that the old ways are NOT as glorious
or noble or fantastically whatever to younger generations.
[it's a very old complaint, repeated every generation for
countless generations since time began] [unfortunately, the
complainants all think they 'just discovered it' and bridle
at the remarks of others who've seen the same complaints voiced
by previous generations...;-) ]

Now, I view the technical aspects of Access BPL as being the
equivalent of fairly high-speed broadband data sent over wire
in a DIFFERENT method than other wired broadband data service
providers. A different METHOD to yield equal results to
subscribers. The difference to everyone else is that Access
BPL has EMI/RFI up the ying-yang compared to other methods.
Enough that everyone in the immediate vicinity of Access BPL
can kiss their HF-VHF receiver sensitivities bye-bye...they
would be swimming in a terrible gumbo of QRM that leaves a
terrible aftertaste.

gum bow

wrote


In this neighborhood, Comcast brings in broadband fiber to the
end of this street, converts the optical digital to analog
digital AND analog-analog, sends that along on two coax cables
on the utility poles for very local distribution.


Classic FTTC (Fiber To The Curb) application using SONET OC3. Very cost
effective service delivery model because one (very expensive)
optical/electrical/optical equipment pedestal serves several dozen customers
with oodles of bandwidth for each.

The cost/revenue model falls down the toilet when you serve a single residence
with an OC3 (or even OC1) pipe. Granted this is waaaaay more bandwidth than any
single residence will ever use, so some telcos have field-trialed PON FTTH
rather than SONET (less electronics investment), but only the equipment vendors
are enthused.

Beep beep
de Hans, K0HB